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I created a quick render with Kalen for Dain 8 and I quite like his face:
Dain 8 has the best (most hyper-realistically shadered) skin of any G8M so far. 'Tis a pity 'bout his Pro Bundle. But if you need a great male skin, he's it. Nix 8 is number 2 on my list, followed by Vladimir, Floyd, Christian.
I'm still waiting for Daz to make SSS maps with actual subsurface aka flesh details rather than just lightened copies of the color map (Dain 8 included). I have to rework the SSS maps for every character I buy.
This sounds interesting, are there any tutorials on this?
Not that I know of...I just found some blood vessel maps on DeviantArt and then started playing with them and the color map in Photoshop. The results are definitely a vast improvement. The first image I attached is my tweaked version of Michael 7's skin and the second is my tweaked version of Monique 7's skin (I did swap in Monique 8's brows). The technique is the same for G3 and G8...it's just these two G3 skins I had handy with closeups.
The only characters I can think of offhand with that sort of map are Kyle and Kurt by DTG at Renderosity. I can't remember seeing it here at all, as far as I can recall. Kurt is G3 and Kyle is G8, but Base Male, so the maps can be used with other characters. I think those maps may actually not be used by the characters, just included if needed or wanted.
I tried Kurt's vein maps on Dain HD, since Base Male UV is the same across generations. I think it may need finer detail than those maps have, since he looked ... only slightly terrifying! (Click the image to see it larger.)
That's the high density chest hair preset, by the by. That ... is Beyond Baldwin, that is.
I feel like Daz is doing everything in their power not to make me want to get the Dain bundle.
First they removed the $2.20 items a lot earlier without any prior warning or notice, then they started rewarding the people that bought it earlier while waiting to get any kind of combination with other offers or good discounts does nothing.
And since I don't pull the trigger on the Dain offer, I am not getting anything else yet because I don't know what I will want next.
This means I haven't bought anything since Dain appeared and if things are going this way I won't buy anything until March Madness, if that has anything interesting in it.
Maybe it's a sign I have already bought plenty of stuff I haven't used or checked yet and I should spend more time with them instead of in the shop or on the forums.
It now only feels like wasted time for nothing.
We all hit that point - in some cases several times a year... Go and render, wishlist the things you aren't buying right now. They'll be on sale again.
Amen, to that! I'm sure a lot of us could use this very sound advice now and again.
Who knows, at some point in the future you might be able to choose Dain 8 as your 'free bundle pick' in some future sale... if past history is any indication.
It helps to have a lot of patience with the various Daz sales, if you are trying to stretch your Daz Dollars.
I do agree with the sentiment that, of late, the special offers ending so quickly is rather annoying. In my case, I jumped on Dain 8 immediately, but due to store glitches I ended up not grabbing the associated fantasy bundle the day it was released, which 'locked me out' of an extra 10% off on a gift card. I was still pretty happy witth the final discount rate on the gift card I just bought a few hours ago, though. An extra 6% (after Daz Math) off would have been nice though!
Sometimes it pays to jump on sales early, sometimes it pays to wait for Daz to sweeten the deal with a subsequent offer. Kinda makes you wish you had a crystal ball for such things...
True, until now, since I joined in Novemeber I never saw jumping quickly being rewarded while I regretted not waiting for several deals.
This time I waited and it proved to be wrong.
I wouldn't be so upset about the gift card if at least the $2.20 offer was still up. The funny thing is that before it was there, I didn't even know I wanted those items but now I want several of them but it feels wrong to buy them at a higher price when I could have bought them for $1.76 each(with the coupon code discount) so I probably won't buy them at all in the end, just resent Daz for taking the offer without prior notice.
LOL, I dislike veins on my characters and usually spend time removing them from transparency maps :)
DAZ and the PA's should start including more realistic transparency maps as an option, me thinks.
Your renders look great!
Not according to a 2 second Google image search. They all had curly chest and arm hair. I'm not even sure I'd used that hair on anybody. It doesn't look natural.
Okay. Thanks. looks better without the iray shadows.
and thanks for this character. been a long time since a bishounen character.
THIS IS INCREDIBLE! What a great render. He's my new desktop
Speaking as a black person and looking at my arm, I think that a cursory Google search is not rigorous. There isn't any attribute from height, skin color, hair color, straightness of hair, lactose tolerance that is consistent for any group of people and especially not the people of Africa and their descendants.
Thank you! And yeah, a lot of skins are too veiny...which I think a large part of the issue is painting them directly onto the color map...as is the case with Dain 8. I know we can't simulate real skin yet but painting subsurface detailing right onto the color map is definitely not the answer. And to the exact opposite, simply lightening the color map to use underneath is also not the answer. For example, Dain 8 has painted body hair...which also appears in the SSS map and that's just...no. With the way the new chromatic SSS system works, there is so much more potential for near photorealism with skin, and I think Daz (and like 99% of the characters being sold) is missing out greatly by not taking advantage of subsurface vs surface details.
Glad you like him! He's my attempt at character fanart from a video game, hence the cranial implants. I pretty much call my tweaks "frankenskins", lol...because I've taught myself how to get what I want by deconstructing and mish-mashing.
I think they'd make a lot more sales if they were open about their marketing strategy. Ie: Buy the Dain Pro bundle TODAY and you will get these items for $2.20 each, TODAY only and if you buy before January 30th, watch your messages for future discounts! That would seem to benefit both Daz and consumers, but I don't work at Daz marketing, although weirdly I think I would enjoy that job lol.
I'm with you on that one. I mean I see no downside on announcing their plans and future rewards for buying early. In their place I would even announce the plan for the whole week ahead if I knew it. Lets people know what to expect, on what to spend their money, to log in and check on some of the flash sales, when they occur. They wouldn't have to go into every details of the offers but even something like:
This week we are releasing a new Pro Bundle followed by a special medieval bundle related to the main character. Later in the week you will get a chance to complete your fantasy collection and build your own battle bundle. We've also got something planned for the gamers out there. Last but not least, you will get a chance to complete your Pro Bundle collection at massively discounted prices and fill back your credit with a nice discount on gift cards. Early shoppers of the new Pro Bundle will get extra rewards, you know what they say: "Early bird gets the worm!". We wish you a nice week and happy rendering!
On the other side, not doing that just ends up pissing people off about missed offers. It's like they want some people to miss on those offers although I couldn't say why.
Meanwhile, I rather think that the separate fantasy bundles released the following day is a step in a good direction. There seem to be a lot of people who simply do not render fantasy images, and there are probably just as many who render almost nothing else. Separating out the fantasy stuff will probably generate additional sales on the fantasy bundle. And if it's released the *next day* that will give people a chance to at least pick up the base character, if a fantasy add-on requires it, before the extra incentaves disappear.
It might nudge a few sales of the first bundles as well, particularly if the characters and hair look useful.
Wow.
I actually imagined the build your own bundle like that (before I saw how terrible the offer really is).
I saw it as a way to allow people to build bundles that they would use instead of buying a bundle because of good price but only use half of it or less.
I imagined the build your own bundle more like choose a base character, 2 additional characters, 2 pieces of hair, some outfits and some poses and get a normal bundle pricing for that, instead of paying sepparate prices for that.
That would allow for people who render almost only fantasy to build their fantasy bundles, people who render contemporary stuff to build their own bundles, if you don't render military stuff but you still like some characters and hair, you could also adapt a bundle to fit that.
Unfortunately, it's not like that.
I'm not sure how easy it would be to set up a pro bundle as 'Option A' vs 'Option B' short of doing a 'build your own bundle', but it would have been cool to have a 'Dain 8 Fantasy Pro bundle offer' as opposed to just the 'Dain 8 Fantasy addon' bundle, for those that weren't really interested in the more modern day outfits.
Of course, then Daz couldn't have 'pawned off'' those outfits on us that so many people are disappointed in. As I said before, I'm sure this was one of the things in play that prompted the purple banner offer, and the otherwise more generous 'bonus items' offer than we saw with CJ8.
I do have to agree that unless you don't mind the lower quality meshes and such on a couple of the pro bundle outfits in the Dain 8, though, that he may not be as good of a value once those bonus offers go away though. It's good that a few of you brought your disappointment to CS's attention, via tickets and refunds and such. Hopefully this will help raise the bar a bit on Daz's end when they put together future bundles.
Here's to hoping that this is a 'live and learn' moment.
Dain 8
^ such a babe :)
This isn't a great image artistically. I just wanted to show how realistic the chest hair can look by tweaking the many settings. I shortened the hairs, added some random lengths, made it less dense, added a bit of clumping…
I might get Dain 8 later but not touching that "Pro bundle" Thx for the infos.
Here's my first render of him:
My first post here on Daz in a long while. Testing Dain out with my own head morph! Love his textures. Rendered with Iray
Very sexy Silas3D