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  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,222
    Mistara said:

    iit looks scary.

    only 1 packet of hot choccy and marshmallows woes.
    but santa left drambuie

    https://weather.com/weather/alerts/localalerts/l/11743:4:US?phenomena=BZ&significance=W&areaid=NYZ078&office=KOKX&etn=0001

     

    ...agh no hot cocoa for me anymore. All the quarts and pints of milk at the market are now in these horrible plastic containers with a label wrapper you have to remove and throw in the rubbish instead of the fully recyclable traditional cartons (why even bother to say it's "recyclable"?).  So not into putting more non biodegradable toxic materials in a landfill.  A half gallon is too much and usually goes bad before I get to use it all.

  • PetercatPetercat Posts: 2,321
    kyoto kid said:
    Mistara said:

    iit looks scary.

    only 1 packet of hot choccy and marshmallows woes.
    but santa left drambuie

    https://weather.com/weather/alerts/localalerts/l/11743:4:US?phenomena=BZ&significance=W&areaid=NYZ078&office=KOKX&etn=0001

     

    ...agh no hot cocoa for me anymore. All the quarts and pints of milk at the market are now in these horrible plastic containers with a label wrapper you have to remove and throw in the rubbish instead of the fully recyclable traditional cartons (why even bother to say it's "recyclable"?).  So not into putting more non biodegradable toxic materials in a landfill.  A half gallon is too much and usually goes bad before I get to use it all.

    Wow. I buy 3 gallons at a time and drink it all before it goes bad. I've had milk go three weeks past it's expiration date! After opening it!
    Of course, a lot depends on the brand. Wal-mart milk will only last a few days after opening, IGA brand lasts the longest. As I said, over three weeks.
    YMMV.

  • Charlie JudgeCharlie Judge Posts: 12,888
    edited January 2018
    Petercat said:

    Savannah GA.

    Just looked outside. 2" of snow on the ground, and something that is just so wrong:
    Snow on my motorcycle.

    Okay, it's pretty, I've seen it, it can go away now.

    Outer Banks, North Carolina (Manteo) Not pretty at all.

    2 to 3" snow on the ground and more coming. 50+ mph winds; blizzard conditions.

    And my dog keeps wanting to go out

    Post edited by Charlie Judge on
  • LeatherGryphonLeatherGryphon Posts: 11,660
    edited January 2018
    kyoto kid said:
    Mistara said:

    iit looks scary.

    only 1 packet of hot choccy and marshmallows woes.
    but santa left drambuie

    https://weather.com/weather/alerts/localalerts/l/11743:4:US?phenomena=BZ&significance=W&areaid=NYZ078&office=KOKX&etn=0001

     

    ...agh no hot cocoa for me anymore. All the quarts and pints of milk at the market are now in these horrible plastic containers with a label wrapper you have to remove and throw in the rubbish instead of the fully recyclable traditional cartons (why even bother to say it's "recyclable"?).  So not into putting more non biodegradable toxic materials in a landfill.  A half gallon is too much and usually goes bad before I get to use it all.

    Perhaps not your cup-of-tea but I'm lactose intolerant so I buy Lactade (which is milk but without the lactose).  I don't drink much (cereal and cooking) and it comes in two-quart cardboard containers which often lasts me 2 or 3 weeks.   If I watch the sell-by date I can buy it when it is about a month away.  Once I started using Lactade and watching its date I haven't had a problem.  I actually usually buy the low-fat version but once in a while they don't have any low-fat so I get their whole milk version and it's pretty good and I even cook with it without problems.  Yeah, it is a bit more expensive but when you don't use much milk it keeps very well.

    PS: cooking with the low-fat version makes thin sauces.  I usually throw in more butter to add some fat.

    PPS: I use real butter not margarine or oleo (yuck!)

    Post edited by LeatherGryphon on
  • FirstBastionFirstBastion Posts: 7,844

    Yup,  it's the start of that worst case scenario no one wants to talk about. 

  • Complaint:  Not unexpected but it's snowing again. frown  When I got up it was bright and sunny and I thought I could get out to finally take my garbage in my trunk to the transfer station (dump), and do my laundry.  But NOOOO, right after I finished breakfast the snow started, and I don't drive in snow.  All the accidents I've ever had were in snowy weather.  Then I lived down south for half my life.  Driving in snow scares the hell out of me nowdays.  It hurts when I do that, so I don't do that anymore!  I can't afford even a little accident. indecision

  • Sfariah DSfariah D Posts: 26,536

    Weather is giving me the meh teeming.  I think.

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675

    sky is still dumping.

    heard shovels.  bless them.  neighbor clearing my doorsteps

  • ItsCeoItsCeo Posts: 471
    Here in Vegas it's going to be a high of only 65. I had to wear a sweater to work! When will winter end?!
  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675

     

    Petercat said:
    kyoto kid said:
    Mistara said:

    iit looks scary.

    only 1 packet of hot choccy and marshmallows woes.
    but santa left drambuie

    https://weather.com/weather/alerts/localalerts/l/11743:4:US?phenomena=BZ&significance=W&areaid=NYZ078&office=KOKX&etn=0001

     

    ...agh no hot cocoa for me anymore. All the quarts and pints of milk at the market are now in these horrible plastic containers with a label wrapper you have to remove and throw in the rubbish instead of the fully recyclable traditional cartons (why even bother to say it's "recyclable"?).  So not into putting more non biodegradable toxic materials in a landfill.  A half gallon is too much and usually goes bad before I get to use it all.

    Wow. I buy 3 gallons at a time and drink it all before it goes bad. I've had milk go three weeks past it's expiration date! After opening it!
    Of course, a lot depends on the brand. Wal-mart milk will only last a few days after opening, IGA brand lasts the longest. As I said, over three weeks.
    YMMV.

     

    i get the organic milk, has a longer shelf life.  dunno why though. hoping not from chemicals/

     

    real hot choccy heart no corn syrup stuff.

  • ChoholeChohole Posts: 33,604
    edited January 2018
    Mistara said:

     

    Petercat said:
    kyoto kid said:
    Mistara said:

    iit looks scary.

    only 1 packet of hot choccy and marshmallows woes.
    but santa left drambuie

    https://weather.com/weather/alerts/localalerts/l/11743:4:US?phenomena=BZ&significance=W&areaid=NYZ078&office=KOKX&etn=0001

     

    ...agh no hot cocoa for me anymore. All the quarts and pints of milk at the market are now in these horrible plastic containers with a label wrapper you have to remove and throw in the rubbish instead of the fully recyclable traditional cartons (why even bother to say it's "recyclable"?).  So not into putting more non biodegradable toxic materials in a landfill.  A half gallon is too much and usually goes bad before I get to use it all.

    Wow. I buy 3 gallons at a time and drink it all before it goes bad. I've had milk go three weeks past it's expiration date! After opening it!
    Of course, a lot depends on the brand. Wal-mart milk will only last a few days after opening, IGA brand lasts the longest. As I said, over three weeks.
    YMMV.

     

    i get the organic milk, has a longer shelf life.  dunno why though. hoping not from chemicals/

     

    real hot choccy heart no corn syrup stuff.

    I buy whole milk and I have noticed that organic milk does last longer. Also I often buy whole milk which has been filtered. This lasts even longer.  So  it is the lack of chemiclas, intentional or accidental, which make the pure milk last longer.

    BTW I have also noticed that my cats seem to know when I have bought organic whole milk, as they clamour for some,  but are not so bothered if I buy the "Pure" milk, but will drink it if given some.   So Chohole Cats prefer organic milk.

    Post edited by Chohole on
  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,222
    edited January 2018
    Petercat said:
    kyoto kid said:
    Mistara said:

    iit looks scary.

    only 1 packet of hot choccy and marshmallows woes.
    but santa left drambuie

    https://weather.com/weather/alerts/localalerts/l/11743:4:US?phenomena=BZ&significance=W&areaid=NYZ078&office=KOKX&etn=0001

     

    ...agh no hot cocoa for me anymore. All the quarts and pints of milk at the market are now in these horrible plastic containers with a label wrapper you have to remove and throw in the rubbish instead of the fully recyclable traditional cartons (why even bother to say it's "recyclable"?).  So not into putting more non biodegradable toxic materials in a landfill.  A half gallon is too much and usually goes bad before I get to use it all.

    Wow. I buy 3 gallons at a time and drink it all before it goes bad. I've had milk go three weeks past it's expiration date! After opening it!
    Of course, a lot depends on the brand. Wal-mart milk will only last a few days after opening, IGA brand lasts the longest. As I said, over three weeks.
    YMMV.

    ..."very much so on the "mileage".  About a week and a half to two tops for me before it begins to get that slightly bitter taste when says it is going bad.  Being that I live alone and don't do cold brekkie cereals (nothing but empty calories, artificial ingredients, and added sugar at high cost) about the only other use I have for milk for besides hot cocoa is occasionally in cooking, so a quart goes a long way for me. May have to go to one of those pricey "organic" markets to get cartons or returnable glass bottles in quart size.

    The other nice thing about cartons is they flatten down much easier so they don't take up as much room in the recycling bin, and glass ones are refundable.

    Post edited by kyoto kid on
  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,222
    kyoto kid said:
    Mistara said:

    iit looks scary.

    only 1 packet of hot choccy and marshmallows woes.
    but santa left drambuie

    https://weather.com/weather/alerts/localalerts/l/11743:4:US?phenomena=BZ&significance=W&areaid=NYZ078&office=KOKX&etn=0001

     

    ...agh no hot cocoa for me anymore. All the quarts and pints of milk at the market are now in these horrible plastic containers with a label wrapper you have to remove and throw in the rubbish instead of the fully recyclable traditional cartons (why even bother to say it's "recyclable"?).  So not into putting more non biodegradable toxic materials in a landfill.  A half gallon is too much and usually goes bad before I get to use it all.

    Perhaps not your cup-of-tea but I'm lactose intolerant so I buy Lactade (which is milk but without the lactose).  I don't drink much (cereal and cooking) and it comes in two-quart cardboard containers which often lasts me 2 or 3 weeks.   If I watch the sell-by date I can buy it when it is about a month away.  Once I started using Lactade and watching its date I haven't had a problem.  I actually usually buy the low-fat version but once in a while they don't have any low-fat so I get their whole milk version and it's pretty good and I even cook with it without problems.  Yeah, it is a bit more expensive but when you don't use much milk it keeps very well.

    PS: cooking with the low-fat version makes thin sauces.  I usually throw in more butter to add some fat.

    PPS: I use real butter not margarine or oleo (yuck!)

    ...as mentioned above a quart is about the most I buy.  I've bought half gallons before and they always go bad before I ever get through using them up.

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,222
    edited January 2018
    Mistara said:

     

    Petercat said:
    kyoto kid said:
    Mistara said:

    iit looks scary.

    only 1 packet of hot choccy and marshmallows woes.
    but santa left drambuie

    https://weather.com/weather/alerts/localalerts/l/11743:4:US?phenomena=BZ&significance=W&areaid=NYZ078&office=KOKX&etn=0001

     

    ...agh no hot cocoa for me anymore. All the quarts and pints of milk at the market are now in these horrible plastic containers with a label wrapper you have to remove and throw in the rubbish instead of the fully recyclable traditional cartons (why even bother to say it's "recyclable"?).  So not into putting more non biodegradable toxic materials in a landfill.  A half gallon is too much and usually goes bad before I get to use it all.

    Wow. I buy 3 gallons at a time and drink it all before it goes bad. I've had milk go three weeks past it's expiration date! After opening it!
    Of course, a lot depends on the brand. Wal-mart milk will only last a few days after opening, IGA brand lasts the longest. As I said, over three weeks.
    YMMV.

     

    i get the organic milk, has a longer shelf life.  dunno why though. hoping not from chemicals/

     

    real hot choccy heart no corn syrup stuff.

    ...yeah, that's too pricey for me at 3$ - 4$ a quart here but as Imentioned earlier, I may have no choice.

    Same here, I make "proper" hot cocoa, not that stuff you dump out of a package and pour hot water into.

    Post edited by kyoto kid on
  • LeatherGryphonLeatherGryphon Posts: 11,660
    edited January 2018
    kyoto kid said:
    kyoto kid said:
    Mistara said:

    iit looks scary.

    only 1 packet of hot choccy and marshmallows woes.
    but santa left drambuie

    https://weather.com/weather/alerts/localalerts/l/11743:4:US?phenomena=BZ&significance=W&areaid=NYZ078&office=KOKX&etn=0001

     

    ...agh no hot cocoa for me anymore. All the quarts and pints of milk at the market are now in these horrible plastic containers with a label wrapper you have to remove and throw in the rubbish instead of the fully recyclable traditional cartons (why even bother to say it's "recyclable"?).  So not into putting more non biodegradable toxic materials in a landfill.  A half gallon is too much and usually goes bad before I get to use it all.

    Perhaps not your cup-of-tea but I'm lactose intolerant so I buy Lactade (which is milk but without the lactose).  I don't drink much (cereal and cooking) and it comes in two-quart cardboard containers which often lasts me 2 or 3 weeks.   If I watch the sell-by date I can buy it when it is about a month away.  Once I started using Lactade and watching its date I haven't had a problem.  I actually usually buy the low-fat version but once in a while they don't have any low-fat so I get their whole milk version and it's pretty good and I even cook with it without problems.  Yeah, it is a bit more expensive but when you don't use much milk it keeps very well.

    PS: cooking with the low-fat version makes thin sauces.  I usually throw in more butter to add some fat.

    PPS: I use real butter not margarine or oleo (yuck!)

    ...as mentioned above a quart is about the most I buy.  I've bought half gallons before and they always go bad before I ever get through using them up.

    Well, excuuuuse me.  cheeky  Have you considered powdered milk?.  Or keeping goats?  Or giving up milk?  Or changing markets?  Or giving in to the the industrial machinery?

     

    Post edited by LeatherGryphon on
  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,222
    edited January 2018

    ...if I lived in a house with a big enough back yard, a goat would actually work because you can have them in the city limits here.

    Heifer Dust? That's about as tasty (and nutritious) as chalk powder.

    As to markets there are only three within a reasonable distance, two of which are "mega-corporate" owned (Safeway and Kroger) while the third is one of those overpriced "natural" ones (Whole Paycheque) which I will probably end up going to.

    ...really miss home dairy delivery.

    Post edited by kyoto kid on
  • PetercatPetercat Posts: 2,321
    kyoto kid said:

    ...if I lived in a house with a big enough back yard, a goat would actually work because you can have them in the city limits here.

    Heifer Dust? That's about as tasty (and nutritious) as chalk powder.

    As to markets there are only three within a reasonable distance, two of which are "mega-corporate" owned (Safeway and Kroger) while the third is one of those overpriced "natural" ones (Whole Paycheque) which I will probably end up going to.

    ...really miss home dairy delivery.

    I had good luck with Kroger products when I lived near one.
    Don't they still sell milk in the one-pint cartons?
    Or has the whole west coast gone insane?

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,222

    ...not any more, or even quarts. Where I am both sizes now come in those plastic bottles with the labels that are non-recyclable.

    Yeah, you'd think with all the "save the planet" types out here this wouldn't be the case (plastic grocery bags were banned in Portland several years ago and beverage bottle/can deposits were doubled to 10¢). 

    On another note cold rain outside pounding against the window.  Don't need to go anywhere as I'm stocked up well into next week (even have some whiskey to make toddies with left over from the holidays).

  • Brr... Supposed to be below zero here in Northeast Ohio the next couple days. Which, after the massive snow dump during Christmas, is going to be fun to deal with. I still have to dodge snowdrifts from the last message, but eh... Next week is supposed to be better temperature wise.
  • It's 10F true temp. right now (9:30 PM) and getting windy(er).  Local forecast is for  -30F windchill during weekend. no

    https://www.google.org/publicalerts/alert?aid=f992020eef86979f&hl=en&gl=US&source=wweather

  • PetercatPetercat Posts: 2,321
    edited January 2018
    kyoto kid said:

    ...not any more, or even quarts. Where I am both sizes now come in those plastic bottles with the labels that are non-recyclable.

    Yeah, you'd think with all the "save the planet" types out here this wouldn't be the case (plastic grocery bags were banned in Portland several years ago and beverage bottle/can deposits were doubled to 10¢). 

    On another note cold rain outside pounding against the window.  Don't need to go anywhere as I'm stocked up well into next week (even have some whiskey to make toddies with left over from the holidays).

    Yeaaahhh....
    I used to live near the paper mill that makes the kraft paper for those bags.
    One of the most polluted sites in Georgia. Foul smelling, too. But it's not
    near the West Coast, so it's okay.
    And those reusable eco-bags are real germ magnets, unless you wash them
    with every use. Which uses energy and creates it's own waste.
    I'll stick with plastic.
    Better living through chemistry, and all that.

    Post edited by Petercat on
  • Petercat said:
    kyoto kid said:

    ...not any more, or even quarts. Where I am both sizes now come in those plastic bottles with the labels that are non-recyclable.

    Yeah, you'd think with all the "save the planet" types out here this wouldn't be the case (plastic grocery bags were banned in Portland several years ago and beverage bottle/can deposits were doubled to 10¢). 

    On another note cold rain outside pounding against the window.  Don't need to go anywhere as I'm stocked up well into next week (even have some whiskey to make toddies with left over from the holidays).

    Yeaaahhh....
    I used to live near the paper mill that makes the kraft paper for those bags.
    One of the most polluted sites in Georgia. Foul smelling, too. But it's not
    near the West Coast, so it's okay.
    And those reusable eco-bags are real germ magnets, unless you wash them
    with every use. Which uses energy and creates it's own waste.
    I'll stick with plastic.
    Better living through chemistry, and all that.

    yesyesyes

    Plastic bags are better environmentally than paper ones. They can just cause more issues if they're not properly disposed of. Get them recycled and everything's a-okay.

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,222
    Brr... Supposed to be below zero here in Northeast Ohio the next couple days. Which, after the massive snow dump during Christmas, is going to be fun to deal with. I still have to dodge snowdrifts from the last message, but eh... Next week is supposed to be better temperature wise.

    ...2°F in Milwaukee currently, -5° F In Stevens Point where I first went to college with a low there tonight of -10°F and tomorrow night of -18°F.

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,222
    Petercat said:
    kyoto kid said:

    ...not any more, or even quarts. Where I am both sizes now come in those plastic bottles with the labels that are non-recyclable.

    Yeah, you'd think with all the "save the planet" types out here this wouldn't be the case (plastic grocery bags were banned in Portland several years ago and beverage bottle/can deposits were doubled to 10¢). 

    On another note cold rain outside pounding against the window.  Don't need to go anywhere as I'm stocked up well into next week (even have some whiskey to make toddies with left over from the holidays).

    Yeaaahhh....
    I used to live near the paper mill that makes the kraft paper for those bags.
    One of the most polluted sites in Georgia. Foul smelling, too. But it's not
    near the West Coast, so it's okay.
    And those reusable eco-bags are real germ magnets, unless you wash them
    with every use. Which uses energy and creates it's own waste.
    I'll stick with plastic.
    Better living through chemistry, and all that.

    ...my grocery bags are woven canvas, and yes, do get washed (I just throw them in with the reglar laundry). As long as everything in them is already packaged (I use one plastic produce bag for all the veggies I purchase as well as a paper bag for fruits and "dry" produce items like potatoes, onions & the like) there is little to no risk of contamination.

    Even though the store may have bins that say "recycle plastic shopping bags here" they just dump them in the rubbish as they are not recyclable. 

    This is also why I like a store with a butcher and fish counter as I can get it wrapped in butcher paper with an inner wrap of waxed paper instead of stryofoam and that stretchy plastic.

    When we'd do beach cleanups out here, a fair portion of the waste encountered is comprised of those plastic grocery bags.

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675

    howliee wind outside, is scary 

    tired enuff to completely zonk out and ignore the howls

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,222

    ...just hope those winds they predicted don't occur so the power doesn't go out overnight.  I'd have a stack of blankets at the ready just in case.

  • frankrblowfrankrblow Posts: 2,052

    Would you like to send your snow here? Local weather forcast for Sunday is between 110 and 115 F. Right now, it's 99 F, and the "coolest" day out of the next seven days. I'm about an hour west of Sydney, Australia. The coldest, recent overnight temperature here was 66 F.

  • Would you like to send your snow here?

    Sure would.

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,222

    Would you like to send your snow here? Local weather forcast for Sunday is between 110 and 115 F. Right now, it's 99 F, and the "coolest" day out of the next seven days. I'm about an hour west of Sydney, Australia. The coldest, recent overnight temperature here was 66 F.

    ...trade ya.some of our cold rain for a little bit of that heat.

  • frankrblowfrankrblow Posts: 2,052

    Rain? What's that?.. Oh, right, it's water that falls from the sky. I think we had a few days of that last year. Maybe five or six days, for an hour or two a day.

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