Penny 8

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  • LlynaraLlynara Posts: 4,772

    I'm on the fence about Penny, but this is a fabulous render. It really looks like a photo. She looks great here! 

    Penny 8 "out of the box" with her "Translucency Low" setting:

     

  • IllidanstormIllidanstorm Posts: 655
    edited April 2018

    Ugh she looks kinda fat and her forehead is too big, those guys from "daz originals" just don't know how to make figures it seems see Victoria 8 which looked to me like they wanted to make her ugly on purpose. Maybe hire the guy back who made all the amazing 7 figures.

    FWSA Vivian is looking quite good but not buying it just for this figure. I like nothing else from the pro bundle so no thank you for me.

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  • LlynaraLlynara Posts: 4,772
    edited April 2018

    I don't think skin color is the big issue, I've got entire rainbow of characters in my runtime and love them all. It's whether the new ones are unique enough from what we already have and can do with the many tools available. 

    The vintage Hollywood angle is a great concept, but after studying the promos, it seems like some of them missed the boat. Penny doesn't look bad, neither does her bundle, but some of the promos really don't show off the vintage angle. Will be interesting to see the images people post here. 

    P3D nailed it in her Elaina promos though. Wonderful images reminiscent of a young Elizabeth Taylor. I will definitely be purchasing that figure. 

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  • Llynara said:

    I don't think skin color is the big issue, I've got entire rainbow of characters in my runtime and love them all. It's whether the new ones are unique enough from what we already have and can do with the many tools available. 

    Yeah, that's one of my big points.

    With Kimo and Kalea 7, it's that we finally got a Pacific Islander character that actually looked like they came from Oceania. That brought something new to the table. And in fairness, Ivan 7 was "fresh" in the sense that he was a big, grizzled-looking character, as opposed to the youthful male models up to that point. Bethany 7 offered a completely different body type not seen on an official Daz character up to that point. 

    But so far it's just been... abysmal on Daz's end of things. I think the only characters so far that actually brought something new to the G8 table were Sakura 8 and Ollie 8. And they're toon characters, albeit two very different styles of toon. 

    And I'll be kind and say that some of the outfits in Penny 8's bundle are nicely done. But I don't know if I need them, if that make any sense.

  • hyteckit said:
    y3kman said:
     

    I was thinking Penny 8 is the 30 year old version of the 50 year old Alexandra 8.

    30 year old Vivian to 50 year old Helena::

    https://www.daz3d.com/fwsa-vivian-hd-for-penny-8

    https://www.daz3d.com/fwsa-helena-hd-for-alexandra-8

    And 30 year old Vivi to 50 year old Kylie

    https://www.daz3d.com/vivi-for-penny-8

    https://www.daz3d.com/kylie-for-alexandra-8

    I can totally see this, since you mentioned it.  I'm going to get the pro bundle only because I'm collecting the Gen 8 bundles as a final lap around this wheel.  Don't think I will be using anything but the clothing and hair, though.

  • DaikatanaDaikatana Posts: 830

    Penny looks like Alexandra after a heavy chemical peel and lots of dermal fillers.  

    The clothing in the bundle is nice but not anything I would currently have a use for.

    Gonna pass on this one.

  • OdaaOdaa Posts: 1,548
    Shoxremi said:
    Llynara said:

    I don't think skin color is the big issue, I've got entire rainbow of characters in my runtime and love them all. It's whether the new ones are unique enough from what we already have and can do with the many tools available. 

    Yeah, that's one of my big points.

    With Kimo and Kalea 7, it's that we finally got a Pacific Islander character that actually looked like they came from Oceania. That brought something new to the table. And in fairness, Ivan 7 was "fresh" in the sense that he was a big, grizzled-looking character, as opposed to the youthful male models up to that point. Bethany 7 offered a completely different body type not seen on an official Daz character up to that point. 

    But so far it's just been... abysmal on Daz's end of things. I think the only characters so far that actually brought something new to the G8 table were Sakura 8 and Ollie 8. And they're toon characters, albeit two very different styles of toon. 

     

    Edward 8  was a way more successful take on "action hero of ambiguous age with a bit of mileage on him but still looking good" than the fresh faced Gianni 7 or Michael 7, the gnarly Ivan 7, or the weaselly looking Lucian 7, and didn't suffer from the wussy fake looking eyebrows of Leo 7 and Dante 7. Those G3M guys are all very useful in their own way, but Edward filled a niche that they did not.

  • There's not a single line in her skin, not even under her eyes. I'm assuming she's supposed to be a bit of a mature character so the lack of these details in her skin is very odd.

    The detail will probably come with the HD add-on.

  • She's kinda bland.  If they were going for a younger looking Alexandra character, I can almost see that.  But other than that, she's not as interesting as some of the others.  Honestly, she almost look like Victoria 8 after about 3 dial spins.  We got some time before Daz unleashes the 10th anniversary line, so I'm sure they have some more up their sleeves.  But from a diversity stand point, there is only Monique 8 and Darius 8.  Alexandra 8 and Edward 8 brings the "mature" diversity to the table and Ollie 8 and Sakura 8 brings the cartoon/caricature looks.  But other ethnicities at this point will be welcomed.

     

  • MasterstrokeMasterstroke Posts: 2,300

    Ugh she looks kinda fat and her forehead is too big, those guys from "daz originals" just don't know how to make figures it seems see Victoria 8 which looked to me like they wanted to make her ugly on purpose. Maybe hire the guy back who made all the amazing 7 figures.

    FWSA Vivian is looking quite good but not buying it just for this figure. I like nothing else from the pro bundle so no thank you for me.

    fat ??? WOOOOAAAT ????surprisesurprisesurprisesadno

  • Noah LGPNoah LGP Posts: 2,617
    edited April 2018

    Genesis 8 figures are almost variations of one model. I think the goal isn't to propose different models, it would be to propose a set of subtle details.

     

    The creativity is left to the consumer in order to create their own unique characters.

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  • Generic, completely uninspired looking spamware model. Nothing that couldnt be done with a good morph pack. Also, I cant help but think that her head is out of proportion, too small in comparison to her body.

    Nothing really special about the bundle items.

    This one is a flop...

  • Shoxremi said:
    Karuki said:

    She’s genuinely awful and adds absolutely nothing of interest. What is Daz doing with this bland Caucasian women week after week. Even Aiko is now a bland Caucasian woman. Alexandra is the most interesting of the white females so far, but this?? Eugh. Even the skin ‘texture’ sucks. 

    I know, right? 

    In the past, they used to be good, if not consistent, with adding an "ethnic" (read: not white) PA-made character in every pro bundle or every other one. It was spotty with Genesis 3, but it's like they've completely given up with Genesis 8 to even make a half-hearted attempt to be diverse. 

    I mean, if Penny 8 is supposed to be a throwback to the 20's-50's, why not include a character that's inspired by Josephine Baker? 

    Yes, I do realize there are PAs out there making great characters who aren't Caucasian: I love Rarestone's Pei, Minto, and Minami. Mousso makes some great Asian and Black ladies, and SickleYield's Faces of Earth are a good supplement. But when you look at all the Daz Original "major" characters released so far... there's still so much more work to be done. And I hope Daz takes this to heart going forward, too. If not releasing more non-white major characters (i.e. Mei Lin 8, Kimo 8), then making an effort to ensure there's options in the Pro Bundles.

    Exactly! The main seller when they release a non-caucasian character is that they're just non-caucasian.. Where's the older black lady, where's the plus-size asain woman. I don't even understand what use Penny is?? I could get there and better with skins and morphs readily available. 

    It's genuinley annoying because all she is to me is two more weeks until I might get a chance of something original.

    Even though I didn't buy Ollie, I enjoyed the release because he was an original character... It's not only about race but originality. Something that inspires me. 

  • ColinFrenchColinFrench Posts: 649
    There's not a single line in her skin, not even under her eyes. I'm assuming she's supposed to be a bit of a mature character so the lack of these details in her skin is very odd.

    She's ready for her close ups. wink

  • Noah LGPNoah LGP Posts: 2,617
    edited April 2018

    @Karuki

    Penny 8 or Alexandra 8 figures can be combined with Monique 7 or 8 textures, you're totally free to create many black characters.

    Just they are "basic tools" for the creativity.

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  • RogerbeeRogerbee Posts: 4,460

    Penny 8 is in my ears and in my eyes,

    Good looking figure. I may finally have a body and texture for the Summer Glau I've forever been trying to do. One day I will reinstall DS and get back into it, but, today isn't it. Too much else to do.

    CHEERS!

     

  • RogerbeeRogerbee Posts: 4,460

    Oh and another thing, anyone else see Evangeline Lily in her!?

    CHEERS!

  • ALLIEKATBLUEALLIEKATBLUE Posts: 2,983

    Where'd did Penny get the long gloves  and jewels in the main Penny promo pix?

  • deathbycanondeathbycanon Posts: 1,227

    She may end up in my cart only because Ophelia and Genevieve have been in my wish list forever, Penny and her bundle do nothing for me. If not for the freebies this would be a hard pass. 

  • NoahLGP said:

    @Karuki

    Penny 8 or Alexandra 8 figures can be combined with Monique 7 or 8 textures, you're totally free to create many black characters.

    Just they are "basic tools" for the creativity.

    Causian and African features are usually not that similar.. Doesn't Daz want to inspire people.. why are they aiming for basic? Was Ollie basic? 

    It's not about black or white or asian, it's about selling a product that's unique and interesting. They keep pumping out the most generic cuacasian characters... 

    And the HD add on for her will be just another couple of liplines and a bit if detail on the hands.. eugh.

  • Ophelia and Genevieve

    Those would be the only reasons I would purchase this character. Alas, I already have them. wink

  • CortexCortex Posts: 111
    edited April 2018

    Looking at the pictures, I think the "dForce Vivacious Chemise Add-On Textures" are beautiful.

     

    I think the Penny 8 model might look nice with a touch of Karyssa 8 mixed in to give a softer more feminine look.

    Gen 8 adult females always seem to have a too tall and heavy jawed Hollywood look for me (as women aren't like that in my area) and Karyssa is quite remarkable her ability to soften that.

    I don't have Penny yet so can't be sure.

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  • vwranglervwrangler Posts: 4,970
    edited April 2018

    EDITED: Never mind. I have no idea what I was looking at before.

    I actually like most of the clothing -- although I think that the Breakfast Date dress needs a better name and a better main promo. (I'm pretty sure that most breakfast dates, even in the glamourous past, weren't quite that formal, and even if they were, you wouldn't wear a leather dress to them.) I don't care about the poses -- I never care about the poses in a package, though. I think I like the hairs in concept, although how much, I'm not sure. (I'm not entirely sure why Starlette hair seems to inspire people to such rage in this thread!)

    I just don't know if any or all of that is enough to make me buy after a month of big sales. And the addition of free pro bundles I already made the conscious decision not to buy doesn't help move the decision needle.

    (I am ... weirdly amused by the addons that trigger the discount. Texture sets for the clothing in the bundles, characters based on the main shape, jewelry to go with some of the clothing and characters ... and a building. I quite like the building, in fact -- I like most of Bitwelder's stuff -- but it's a weird note, especially since it's differently period than everything else in the sale.)

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  • fastbike1fastbike1 Posts: 4,078

    I think this is the jewelry: https://www.daz3d.com/regal-jewelry-for-genesis-8-female-s ;

    Where'd did Penny get the long gloves  and jewels in the main Penny promo pix?

     

  • CrescentCrescent Posts: 333

    Sigh.  YAWC - Yet Another White Chick.  

    Mei Lin, Lee, Kimo, Kalea, Hiro male Sakura, female Ollie, sooo many character packs I'd love to buy but this is what shows up.  Latin Ameria, the Middle East, Asia - over half the world's population hasn't been represented yet and Black characters are seriously underrepresented so obviously Penny is the solution.

     

  • I would have loved them to go more 40's 50's look to the actual figure-curves, a bust..those gals were so gorgeous back then. I know we could dial all that in, but I'm kind of disappointed she looks like a younger Alexandra. Some of the PA characters are gorgeous though..

  • ALLIEKATBLUEALLIEKATBLUE Posts: 2,983
    vwrangler said:

    Where'd did Penny get the long gloves  and jewels in the main Penny promo pix?

    Which promo are you talking about?

    Gloves come with the (horribly named) Breakfast Date dress. Also, the cigarette and holder. There's also a jewelry set in the PA items, but I don't know if that's what you're talking about.

    This picture.  Not the same gloves at all unless using a different texture- very sheer with butterflies.  Also the very top of the arm looks very different.  The bracelet on the right arm and the necklace.

     

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  • Geminii23Geminii23 Posts: 1,328
    edited April 2018

    Definitely underwhelmed by her.  But all 5 of the Free Pro bundles have been in my wishlist for quite sometime.  So it's hard to pass up the deal of getting so much content for free.  Just gotta decide which Pro bundles I want.

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  • vwranglervwrangler Posts: 4,970
    vwrangler said:

    Where'd did Penny get the long gloves  and jewels in the main Penny promo pix?

    Which promo are you talking about?

    Gloves come with the (horribly named) Breakfast Date dress. Also, the cigarette and holder. There's also a jewelry set in the PA items, but I don't know if that's what you're talking about.

    This picture.  Not the same gloves at all unless using a different texture- very sheer with butterflies.  Also the very top of the arm looks very different.  The bracelet on the right arm and the necklace.

     

    Yeah, I caught that right after I posted and edited, but you posted before I re-posted! I don't know how I missed her main promo before. Unfortunately, I have no useful information there.

  • Noah LGPNoah LGP Posts: 2,617
    edited April 2018

    @Karuki

    That's my own feelings but I never feels Genesis 2,3,8 figures be "unique".

    For example, Genesis 3 Victoria, Stephanie, Eva, Bethany, Karen, Gia, Ophelia, Lilith, Arabella, Olympia, ... it's always the same model with a few of variations.

     

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