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  • tkztkz Posts: 149
    edited September 2017

    Has a single one of these daily PA sales worked properly?

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  • jakibluejakiblue Posts: 7,281

    Nope. laugh Pretty much like every day of new releases. Heh.  

    tkz said:

    Has a single one of these daily PA sales worked properly?

     

  • Cris PalominoCris Palomino Posts: 12,740

    It has actually been faster for me this week, but tonight would just not turn over for me in Chrome tonight, and still, hasn't, but was fine in Firefox.

    Kerya said:
    DAZ_ann0314 said:
    Leana said:

    Install types are missing on the product page for Precious Deer.

    We let them know smiley Thank You smiley

     

    I would like to know too - as I don't buy Daz Connect Encrypted Content ...

    Did somebody here buy Precious Deer and can tell us whether the download is in DIM or your Product Library?

     

    Oh - the 90% off of Unicorn items doesn't work ...

    Shopping cart:

    https://www.daz3d.com/precious-deer (still new)

    https://www.daz3d.com/unicorn-princess-hair

    https://www.daz3d.com/da-unicorn-for-daz-horse-2

    (both on the https://www.daz3d.com/Featured-Unicorn-Related-Selection page)

     

    Checking into this with Daz.

  • 3Diva3Diva Posts: 12,032

    Yep, I can confirm. I have DA Unicorn for Daz Horse 2 in my cart and a Still New release and it's showing up at full price.

  • L'AdairL'Adair Posts: 9,479
    Kerya said:
    Oh - the 90% off of Unicorn items doesn't work ...

    Shopping cart:

    https://www.daz3d.com/precious-deer (still new)

    https://www.daz3d.com/unicorn-princess-hair

    https://www.daz3d.com/da-unicorn-for-daz-horse-2

    (both on the https://www.daz3d.com/Featured-Unicorn-Related-Selection page)

    It's not just those Kerya listed, above. I have one Still New release in my cart and all 10 of the Featured Unicorn Related Selection items, (even those I already own,) and none of them are getting the 90% discount.

  • NovicaNovica Posts: 23,925
    edited September 2017

    Edited: It worked for me hours ago, but with the New Debuts. It's $1.69 for the Unicorn for Daz Horse 2. And I use Chrome. Everything worked from the get-go but I only bought New Debut items. I have Ebano and the Food Truck in my cart.   So Still New does indeed seem to be what's failing.

    Edit: here's part of my cart, but this shows the horse. 

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  • cdpro_2831bbd990cdpro_2831bbd990 Posts: 1,430
    L'Adair said:
    cdpro_2831bbd990 said:

    Anyone else noticed that there seems to be a lot of "rebuy" new releases for Genesis 8.  Some of these have improvements.  But, alot of them just seem to be a repackage of the previous version.  I've gone ahead and bought some of the redo's for G8 because they include MR licensing for the new figure.  So, even though these are pretty much the same as the G3 morphs, there is a reason to rebuy.  However, for many redo items, I don't see the point.  Hair that works on G3F will work fine on G8F.  Also, there is not such a huge difference in using G8 over G3, that the previous generation  character or morph won't work just fine.  

    My point really is this:  PAs or DO that are just redo's of previous generation characters or hair or clothing, could be considered a software upgrade and have an upgrade price for current owners - maybe 30% of new purchaser price, to encourage the upgrade path.  

    Just as an example, I FINALLY bought most of the G3 characters that I had wishlisted for ages, just a few months ago.  Many of them, I haven't even done a single render with, yet.  Now, I'm seeing some of those characters returning as G8 versions.  I just can't justify paying again for each of those characters, hair, poses, clothing as they come out in G8 versions...particularly since one of the big selling points of G8 is how backward compatible it is and able to use so much from the earlier generations.

    I fully understand that the updated G8 versions of products should be made available at new item prices for folks that haven't purchased any of the previous incarnations.  I'm just suggesting that an upgrade pricing should be available for people who have already bought previous generations of a  G8 character, pose, hair, prop, clothing...etc., so we can keep up to date without feeling like we're just buying the same items over and over every other year.  The ability is already in place, since Daz frequently does sales based on "if you own or buy X."  So, a PA should be able to do the same thing for verified purchasers of their previous generation products.

    It's not as simple as you make it sound, for a number of reasons.

    Using SY's tutorial, I've converted a lot of G3 hair and wardrobe items to the corresponding male and female G8. Some things work rather well, and somethings just plain break. High-heeled shoes are hit and miss! Shoulders, however, are always problematic. With the two generations using different base poses, (T-pose for G3 and A-pose for G8,) the upper arms and shoulders fit differently. Granted, I'm not an expert by any stretch of the imagination, but my attempts to adjust the rigging have only resulted in clothing fitting even worse when I pose the figure. So when a PA takes the time to update the rigging on an outfit so it fits correctly on G8, well, I think that has value.

    G8 doesn't have a heel bone, but G3 does. That makes auto-fitting shoes something of a nightmare. Flat shoes tend to work okay, but you can forget anything with a heel, unless you have the know how to rig shoes for the next generation.

    I don't fully understand "JCM" or "ERC" and the like, but I do get that bending on G8 is different than bending on G3, and so products that look identical on the surface actually use different code to accomplish the same thing.

    And all those differences betweenn the two generations add up to a lot of tweaking by the experts (PAs.) You can learn to do it yourself. Or you can pay someone who already knows how to do it for you, (buying the G8 version of their product.) Both options cost you, one in time, and the other in money.

    Or you can pass on the G8 line for now. You've already got all those G3 characters to work with. There's nothing wrong with them. G2 was the current generation when I got started in this hobby, and I still use G2, along with G1 and G3. If Daz continues to release a new generation every two years, you'll be able to pick up G8 stuff quite inexpensively in another year and a half, when G9 becomes the current generation. You certainly won't be alone if you decide to wait.

    Your points are valid and well taken.  But, I still think it would be a good plan for PA's to have upgrade pricing for owners of the previous generation same name items.  Other than that, I still have this nagging feeling that the main point of releasing a new generation of figures is to allow all new support products to be created and sold all over again.  I LIKE G8.  But, I just don't feel like re buying every character, clothing, pose set, and support asset that I've bought for previous generations.  Of course as you say, I have the option to opt out.  My argument is that perhaps as a repeat customer, the store could give me an even better reason to opt in.

  • OverdrawnOverdrawn Posts: 590
    Sad this unicorn got missed in the sale: https://www.daz3d.com/dione-unicorn-girl-hd-for-victoria-6 Her hair is there though...
  • donovancolbertdonovancolbert Posts: 1,421

    If Daz continues to release a new generation every two years, you'll be able to pick up G8 stuff quite inexpensively in another year and a half, when G9 becomes the current generation. You certainly won't be alone if you decide to wait.

    If the current PA sale is any indication of the future pricing scheme of DAZ, it may be a lot longer than 2 years from now before I buy any Generation 8 content. 

    This sale started off with some great stacking and some deep discounts on my big wishlist items, and cheap new items to qualify for discounts... but now every day it seems is a couple of $9 cartoon unicorns or deers to qualify for discounts and the prices for the content are marked up well above their historic lows. I think I'm going to sit the rest of this one out if things don't change. I guess we still have more than half a month to go - maybe we'll turn a corner here. 

    @Ati thanks once again for your incredible plugin. 

     

  • OverdrawnOverdrawn Posts: 590
    @donovancolbert you might enjoy upgrading to v2.1.5! https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/comment/2817461/#Comment_2817461
  • donovancolbertdonovancolbert Posts: 1,421

    @Overdrawn - I always forget to give you credit for your part in the Chrome Plugin... it has saved me so much money, I don't ever even post my content library total value and actual price paid. :D 

     

  • OverdrawnOverdrawn Posts: 590
    @donovancolbert no worries! Just glad you're enjoying it! :D And yeah...we should call that the "big scary number" feature. ;)
  • LlynaraLlynara Posts: 4,772

    It's saved me tons too. The Unicorn stuff just worked for me now. I'm liking today's sale better than yesterday. The qualifying items are easier and there's a lot of stuff to choose from in the various categories. 

  • Pack58Pack58 Posts: 750
    edited September 2017

    For the last 20 minutes or so I'm getting random  DO, PC+ items not showing club discounts in shop pages. Which ones exactly is changing as I refresh etc.Hopefully a temporary glitch as something else is fiddled with?

    Edit: I am logged in and includes older stuff eg Debra Ross.

    ReEdit: And now everything is working fine. Should have waited another 10 minutes before mentioning.

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  • AtiAti Posts: 9,193

    In the cart, out of the cart, in the cart, out of the cart... laugh Can't decide about the poses sale... laugh

  • NathNath Posts: 3,000

    None of them are in my wishlist, so it's easy;)

  • ann0314ann0314 Posts: 2,890
    Pack58 said:

    For the last 20 minutes or so I'm getting random  DO, PC+ items not showing club discounts in shop pages. Which ones exactly is changing as I refresh etc.Hopefully a temporary glitch as something else is fiddled with?

    Edit: I am logged in and includes older stuff eg Debra Ross.

    ReEdit: And now everything is working fine. Should have waited another 10 minutes before mentioning.

    No smiley You mentioned, I reported, they fixed. It was good you mentioned it, Thank You smiley

  • AtiAti Posts: 9,193
    Nath said:

    None of them are in my wishlist, so it's easy;)

    Same here, that's why I take them out. But 86% off the bundles is a pretty good deal... that's why I put them in. But I need that money for the PC+ sales, so out they come again... laugh

  • ByrdieByrdie Posts: 1,783

    I'm confused. Where are these poses and bundles?

  • AtiAti Posts: 9,193
    edited September 2017
    Byrdie said:

    I'm confused. Where are these poses and bundles?

    https://www.daz3d.com/monday-sept-11-animations-and-pose-items

    80% off with a new item (can even be a PC+ item), stacking with the 30% DO discount

    Post edited by Ati on
  • Charlie JudgeCharlie Judge Posts: 13,459
    edited September 2017
    Byrdie said:

    I'm confused. Where are these poses and bundles?

    See the Banner Ad. 80% of these with purchase of any new release:

    https://www.daz3d.com/monday-sept-11-animations-and-pose-items

     

    Edit: Beat by ATI. Cross Posting rules!

    Post edited by Charlie Judge on
  • ByrdieByrdie Posts: 1,783

    Thanks, that's new to me. 

  • InkuboInkubo Posts: 745

    Wouldn't it be nice if, instead of leaving us to look through 30 windows, the offer page gave us one "Shop Featured Artist Catalogs" link and one "Shop Mega Fast Grab Items" link?

  • SpottedKittySpottedKitty Posts: 7,232
    Inkubo said:

    Wouldn't it be nice if, instead of leaving us to look through 30 windows, the offer page gave us one "Shop Featured Artist Catalogs" link and one "Shop Mega Fast Grab Items" link?

    I think there was something like that during the March Madness sale a few months back, but it didn't always work very well.

  • donovancolbertdonovancolbert Posts: 1,421
    edited September 2017

    Yeah, at 80%+ off, I added a few things from my wishlist today. 

    ​I prefer the sales that trigger on ANY new items and there are some cheap new items around... And... you know, when the items that discount are things I actually want. That helps, too. :D 

    ​So, overwhelmingly, I prefer sales that save me the most money and offer me things I really want... what a surprise. :D 

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  • mr clammr clam Posts: 707

    "Yeah, at 80%+ off, I added a few things from my wishlist today."

    Tell me about it. This was the first real sale all month in my opinion. Pro Sets for $19? I'm there!

    As a noob, I feel awkward criticizing anything, but what the hell...

    Due to all the chatter here and elsewhere, I was really looking forward to the Sept Sale. To put it charitably, it has failed to live up to my expectations. They should rebrand it as the "We Really Really Want You to Invest in G8 (Even Though Her Head Looks Like She Is Suffering From an Allergic Reaction to Bee Stings) Sale". I mean, a G8 investor is the only customer who would even remotely benefit from this promotion. I was honestly ready to just write off the entire month, as I so much prefer the regular daily sales over this one. Luckily though, a "normal" sale popped up (the pose deal) and I was able to get an actual, you know, bargain.

  • AtiAti Posts: 9,193
    mr clam said:

    Due to all the chatter here and elsewhere, I was really looking forward to the Sept Sale.

    You'll LOVE the PC+ sale though! wink 

  • WonderlandWonderland Posts: 7,137

    Just as I was going to check out at 10:45 pm Pacific time (11:45 Daz time) the NEW items prices changed. I have a cart full of stuff and now can't check out. Ugh.

  • NovicaNovica Posts: 23,925
    edited September 2017
    mr clam said:

    Due to all the chatter here and elsewhere, I was really looking forward to the Sept Sale. To put it charitably, it has failed to live up to my expectations. They should rebrand it as the "We Really Really Want You to Invest in G8 (Even Though Her Head Looks Like She Is Suffering From an Allergic Reaction to Bee Stings) Sale". I mean, a G8 investor is the only customer who would even remotely benefit from this promotion.

    By "this promotion" are you talking about the overall sale?  If so, I respectfully disagree.  Often during this sale I have loaded up on Genesis 3 items, sets, hair, etc. P3D's characters  were $5.74 to $6.07  (two New Debuts purchased and nothing was Genesis 8)  The most recent items I bought were sets- Steel Town Refinery BUNDLE for $6.24, DM's Occultum was $5.06, etc.

     Granted, you do have to buy a couple new releases to get full advantage of the 75% but if you want to buy enough of a particular catalog (or two) then it helps to balance out the prices of the new items. And a lot of the Genesis 8 also include Genesis 3. Hopefully they are marked that way. I do understand the frustration of having to buy two things to get 50% off for the New Debuts, and other pricing structure issues, but my opinion based on my experience is everything is NOT geared toward Genesis 8 and buyers certainly can benefit from other generations during this sale.

     

     

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  • NovicaNovica Posts: 23,925
    edited September 2017
    Wonderland said:

    Just as I was going to check out at 10:45 pm Pacific time (11:45 Daz time) the NEW items prices changed. I have a cart full of stuff and now can't check out. Ugh.

    Keep that cart- submit a support ticket. They can easily check to see that the store turned over too early. 

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