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Hold down the ctrl(Win)/cmd(Mac) key when you click More Info - there are a couple of options, Product Library page or readme, DS browser or OS browser.
Well this is a solution to your problems of piracy. I will not purchase or download any item (free or otherwise) that is encrypted that I can not use via your DIM. I am hoping Daz does not encrypt the main characters because the day they do I will stop using that charcter set for anything at all. Timmons's idea is a good one, and it will slow down piracy(but not stop it), but it will also affect sales. I guess the question I'm asking is: Will I want to buy something or even care about it after 1yr.? It is my belief that by then this item will be so outdated by newer technology that it will no longer be worth buying or in the case of thiefs, worth stealing. So I guess this works. Catch 22
I am not worried about the one year ... because I am not only using older stuff (much older than one year) - I am buying it too ... so Daz and the PAs will get money from me.
On January 24, 2016 I bought http://www.daz3d.com/degas-ballerina-for-victoria-4 Release Date: 2007-07-17 ...
One Question regarding this Product Links: Is there an posibility to set Product Links when creating Meta Data for 3rd Party Products / Frebiees / etc?
Why would it be? Sets and props don't really age, utilities don't either, and as for clothes, characters and hair, they're certainly still useable a year after their release...
I don't know.
Yeah, the outdated tech thing is... not my experience at all.
I mean, other than the lights, everything I've been rendering lately is at LEAST 2 years old, and in several cases much older. (V4 muscle maps 2007, Daz squirrel 2008, Octopus 2000).
That's good. You shouldn't enable a former addict anyway.
Yup, TY. I realise that now. I've editted the original post in this thread.
Wouldn't it be possible to make the SKU on the product page a link to the readme page, then you would have direct access to the readme from that page instead of having to jump through several hoops to get there.
I hate DRMed products; I don't feel they go out of date in a year though, as I've bought much older. It will stop my impulse buys though, where products are encrypted; will impulse buys counter the increase sales from product not availabel from pirates; no idea, but my guess is no.
Maybe Daz hope folks will buy it knowing they can get it unencrypted later? Perhaps, and it might work with some, and only time will tell for Daz; we may, however, not get to know the outcome. It is a valid marketing strategy, and some unhappy with DRM may consider this a compromise; not sure about myself yet. Will everyone be happy? No, of course not, but maybe enough will be.
We will know the outcome when they announce a brilliant new plan that translates to 'yeah, we're not doing DRM any more.'
Or, if after a few months things are unchanged, apparently it works well enough.
It will be interesting for me whenever the first product appears for actual cash that I REALLY want, but it's encrypted. Will I succumb? Will I sigh and put it on wishlist for next year? I don't know.
This is precisely what I had suggested earlier.....put a link to the readme on the product page. And either on the product page or the readme page, should also have the calculated date at which the item becomes un-encrypted (if it is encrypted.)
Any form of active web page should be able to do this VERY easily. It's just wrapping the SKU number (already there, so no issue finding it) with the rest of the URL and putting it in a link tag.
Should take any decent web developer less than an hour to implement and test......
Already there for me: https://www.daz3d.com/classic-trenchcoat-for-genesis-3-male-s
Wishlisted.
I grant that I'm a little 'privileged' in that I have little interest in the Genesis 3 stuff, which, admittedly, makes new stuff less critical for my buying practices.
documentation is coming... This is mentioned in the latest Public Build thread; http://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/comment/1015301/#Comment_1015301
Will, Please take no offense to one of my seldom seen more negative posts. It's directed more to the entire audience here and just happens to be about what you said.
An "improvement" yes... somewhat. A good "compromise" no. You're first suggestion of 6 months before becoming un-encrypted was bearable to some extent for myself. Why only "to some extent"... I grabbed the 1st 3 freebies released, none since... only actually wanted 2 of them which I'd wanted to use soon after downloading them. After finding that DS 4.9 was required to download them I chose not to go that route so it will remain at DAZ for another almost 11 months. I use DIM to download products and their .ZIP files. I can only hope that DIM or a new version of DIM is still around in 12 months.
As far as "over where they were going"... I'm not so sure. Did they actually know what they planned to do? I'm still not finished reading the previous huge thread so admit to not knowing all that was said there. I've only read up to page 15 so far... please excuse me I've other more positive threads to pay attention to... besides I've always been a slow reader.
Hasn't DAZ now placed us into a temporary "walled garden" in which the walls will hopefully fall in 12 months? A long time for a DIM only user who always works Offline to wait for access to a product. My hope is that encrypted files are still in a test phase. I'm worried that they will always "from now on" be encrypted for x many months, 12 presently. DAZ please make it 3 or even [cringe] 6 months. I hope we have not seen the final compromise which will has stopped my grabbing encrypted freebies and caused my not wanting any encrypted "Pay" products either.
DAZ and PAs I hope the best for you... Studio users of 4.9... I'll be hanging around... I'm interested in what your opinions will be after waiting 12 months.
I appreciate the hard work all PAs do and will understand if some release their products encrypted. I've created plenty of content "for myself only" and have released a few in the distant past which are available absolutely FREE... no need to mention them further... they don't work on WIN or MAC... they are for the Amiga computer only. After having nearly every version of Studio I finally started learning DAZ Studio 4.8 in order to start creating PAY and FREE content. With the release of DS 4.9 I stopped to find out what all this mess is about before continuing. I'll be downloading the latest DS 4.9 Beta in a few days to check that out... Offline of course.
For the moment I'm taking a timeout from DAZ and wandering off to actually create something from scratch in Carrara 8.5 Pro.... who knows perhaps later I'll even buy Bryce to compare it's landscapes to those of Carrara... and even later take some time to start learning Blender... and much later I don't even know yet.
Thanks again Will and DAZ.
No offense taken. People being concerned about where Daz is going seems a fair complaint (one I've made a bunch).
It's when frustrated people start making claims about the intelligence or motives of other people that it starts getting offensive. It's when it gets personal.
I'm compltely critical of DRM, but I try not to make it personal about those who feel otherwise. (I slipped up once, though it was one of those Someone made it personal, I responded in kind rather than keeping my mouth shut)
Thanks Richard, Once I install the latest Beta I'll give it a try. Still getting my feet wet using Studio.
This is easy... onto the wishlist it will go and remain there... just hope it becomes inexpensive before as old as Vickie 3. :)
It probably will be!
Dana
I doubt it on the previous release spacing.
Oh well, Daz isn't the only store in the world to sell a canoe. I can't download my freebie for another year, but I can go purchase one somewhere else. Just like I can purchase other things elsewhere that aren't encrypted and trying to force me to download a version of software I don't want/need except to be used as an oversite committee to monitor me even though they say it isn't.
Bitter, party of one.
You aren't the only one feeling such or similar sentiments.
Just made a good-faith "purchase" of this week's Friday Freebie. I trust that in one year's time Daz will unlock it and then I'll be able to see if I can roll my own PCFs for it and import it into Poser. Meanwhile I have some other very nice beds from right here in the PC that I can use if my 3d people decide to take a nap or get up to other shenanigans requiring a bedroom scene.
(Minds out of the gutter! I'm talking cats walking all over their owners and kids and puppies stealing all the blankets when I say 'shenanigans". Not the NC-17 kind, I save those for elsewhere.
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If you do not wish to wait a year, check out my post below in another thread, where I did mention some alternative (mostly free) locations for very similar looking canoes.
http://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/comment/1012236/#Comment_1012236
I'm turly sorry you feel that way about DAZ Studio 4.9, since you do not have to use the features that supposedly do what you're saying.
my wish list is...750 products long...so got plenty to get before I run into encrypted stuff
Indeed, but it's one I feel people should keep in perspective - the essential perspective of their own individual needs as a customer. There does seem to be an attempt at a bit of an ideological "flash mob" campaign to lobby DAZ into accepting that its encryption/DRM strategy is wrong for DAZ. For us as individual customers, that issue is pretty much none of our business (except for "academic" curiosity / amusement, of course). Encryption/DRM will be a success for DAZ; a disaster for DAZ; or something of a "meh" for DAZ. That's all for DAZ to reckon with.
For we as individul customers, it is important to consider how DAZ's strategy affects us individually, and to react in our own best individual interests - which may include telling DAZ how its strategy impacts us.
The timmins.w x2 solution works pretty well for me because its impact on me isn't very different from my own buying needs. I won't buy encrypted/DRM items (exceptional circumstances may apply) and I'm not an early adopter / am a bargain hunter. I might install 4.9+, and I might "validate my account" at some stage if I need to put my workstation online for some reason. Me generally content with compromise*.
You not content? Carry on in your own best interest.
* Me also re-downloaded product library to insure against DAZ disappearing down its own DRM pipeline. *flush*
I fully support this decision. Thank you DAZ!
EDIT: I will add- this decision has enabled me to add free encrypted stuff to my account in good conscience; I still won't spend any money on DRM, but I can wait for a year for it to become DRM-free, just as I will wait for a year for the free products to become available without DRM. This strikes me as a win-win- I'll get the free products (admittedly 12 months later, but I'll still get them) and DAZ will get my money for other things when they become non-DRM.