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  • WonderlandWonderland Posts: 7,137
    Leana said:
    namtar3d said:

    She's cute, but i don't understand the point of making an asian girl with western base. Seriously the artist needed that base character? I think he/she could use Mei Lin or even just G8 female morphs.

    The point of base characters is to have "ingredients" you can use to create your own characters. If using a "western base" as part of the mix brings features that you like for your asian character, why not use it? Why would you have to use Mei Lin just because she's supposed to be asian? It's not like all asian women look like Mei Lin in the first place...

    Taryn is standalone, no need for Bridget! 

  • davesodaveso Posts: 7,836

    what was the banner discount requirements? i didn't get one

  • nicsttnicstt Posts: 11,715
    DigitalSteam said:
    outrider42 said:

    Yes, that is what many people do not understand when they brush this aside. The issue is representation. There might be more minorities around the store, but they are not Daz Originals, and yes, that matters. Daz Originals are given much greater prominence in the store.

    My count might be off, but I counted 38 Daz Originals for Genesis 8.

    32 of these are white, 3 are African American, and 3 are Asian (and that is if you count Sakura.) 

    So white characters account for a 84% of all G8 Daz Originals. If Daz Originals were a state, the "Republic of Daz" would rank as the 15th whitest state in America. But America certainly isn't the only place that Daz sells to.

    ten or fifteen years of forums, then ten or twelve years on FB, and I don't realize what a brilliant addition a "like" button was until I have to go back into a forum again.

    At least lots of forum software gives you tools to "+1" or "Thumbs up" or something.  Here, all I can do is quote you and say "That was some very good and important and well-spoken sh*t there, man."

    I hate the like button; it seems to stop folks thinking for themselves.

    Whilst its occasional use is fine, it doesn't substitute for a true response.

  • nicsttnicstt Posts: 11,715
    namtar3d said:

    She's cute, but i don't understand the point of making an asian girl with western base. Seriously the artist needed that base character? I think he/she could use Mei Lin or even just G8 female morphs. 

     

    You don't understand that folks might want to create something slightly different? It is certainly a valid artistic expression. If a certain base isn't appealing, dial it out.

  • frankrblowfrankrblow Posts: 2,052
    daveso said:

    what was the banner discount requirements? i didn't get one

    The banner I got was a 'Thank you for your support of Bridget 8 pro bundle' which offers me an extra 10% off Newly Mad items, or 20% off for two or more.

    In effect, as a PC+ member, with two or more Newly Mad items in my cart, and with other stacking discounts, I get 55% off (total), which is pretty poor compared to every other major sale I've seen here.

     

     

  • CybersoxCybersox Posts: 9,295
    dragonfly_2004 said:
    daveso said:

    what was the banner discount requirements? i didn't get one

    The banner I got was a 'Thank you for your support of Bridget 8 pro bundle' which offers me an extra 10% off Newly Mad items, or 20% off for two or more.

    In effect, as a PC+ member, with two or more Newly Mad items in my cart, and with other stacking discounts, I get 55% off (total), which is pretty poor compared to every other major sale I've seen here.

     

     

    It's also the exact same offer that's on the Ad itself, so you didn't even get that.  As near as I can tell, what you got, and I got as well, was DAZ using the Special Offers to spam you. I posted a thread on this here: https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/313446/is-this-purple-bar-offer-really-a-purple-bar-offer#latest ;

     

     

  • JOdelJOdel Posts: 6,322
    namtar3d said:
    Leana said:
    namtar3d said:
     

    Now, i read that she wont even need Bridget! What's the point to include her on the Bridget Bundle? 

     That is a bit odd, frankly. Sometimes the add-on characters in the bundle don't need much from the base character. But they usually  need something.

    So, does that mean that she comes in at the same size as base G8F, or does she at least use Bridget's slightly smaller size?

    As to the question of why she wasn't in the Mei Lin bundle instead, clearly Mei Lin came out before she was created. I have noticed that the character morphs "for X8 character base" usually come out around the same time that base morph was released. Very occasionally, another one will be released later. But not that often. 

    But, really, it does make more sense to make sure that only add-ons that actually do require the base are the ones that get included in the bundle -- unless none of the add-ons on offer require the base?

  • JOdelJOdel Posts: 6,322

    As to the purple banner; this time it only applies if you buy the product.  The banner says:

    Thank you for your support of The Bridget 8 Pro Bundle. Get an EXTRA 10% OFF* any Newly Mad Items

    OR get an EXTRA 20% OFF* when you buy any two (2) or more

    It doesn't say for how long, and it does include the counter-productive and confusing boilerplate text saying everything has to be in the same cart. But I guess is something new comes out while the bundle is on offer at release discount it makes for some extra discount.

    Might have been nice if Briget 8 had been the "key" for a continuing discount through the rest of the MM sales event. But it doesn't say that.

  • WonderlandWonderland Posts: 7,137
    edited March 2019

    I'm really liking Ellis too! She's gorgeous with really interesting features.... This bundle and addons is great for me!

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  • WonderlandWonderland Posts: 7,137
    JOdel said:

    As to the purple banner; this time it only applies if you buy the product.  The banner says:

    Thank you for your support of The Bridget 8 Pro Bundle. Get an EXTRA 10% OFF* any Newly Mad Items

    OR get an EXTRA 20% OFF* when you buy any two (2) or more

    It doesn't say for how long, and it does include the counter-productive and confusing boilerplate text saying everything has to be in the same cart. But I guess is something new comes out while the bundle is on offer at release discount it makes for some extra discount.

    Might have been nice if Briget 8 had been the "key" for a continuing discount through the rest of the MM sales event. But it doesn't say that.

    Yeah, I'm hoping for that too since I didn't have any of the previous keys. It really seems fair that they'd use it since it's the newest bundle....

  • DigitalSteamDigitalSteam Posts: 299
    edited March 2019

    I wanted to try a really hearty laugh with the powdered wig hair I just got, so Bridget to the rescue - I can almost see Wolfie (from the movie "Amadeus") chasing her 'round the room. :)

     

     

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  • rsharp_3144816rsharp_3144816 Posts: 99
    fred9803 said:

    I suspect like others I often buy characters just for their textures. This Bridget texture looks pretty good but like 90% of skins IMO it's way too red. I lowered the transmitted colour by about 50% saturation to pale it up a bit.

    There's something wrong with the eyes but I can fix that pretty easily.

    Have you tried switching the SSS mode to mono?  When set to chromatic, it will generate a ton of red pixels (noise).  I believe this is what can cause the extra redness?  Of course with ample lighting and render times, that should go away.  But, in my case, I use mono and set the transmitted color to 0.43 0.28 0.19 or similar values.   Definitely a personal preference; I much prefer monochromatic noise than colored noise.

    I also do post-work in Photoshop though and will sometimes desaturate a bit there too.

  • cdpro_2831bbd990cdpro_2831bbd990 Posts: 1,430
    MimicMolly said:
    If I hadn't gotten Teen Josie 8, I'd have gotten Bridget 8 for the skin. Probably gonna pick her up eventually, when my budget allows it.

    I totally agree. I like Bridget's look much better than Josie's. I think of the two, Bridget is far more realistic looking. There's something kind of off-putting about Josie's look.
  • cdpro_2831bbd990cdpro_2831bbd990 Posts: 1,430
    missuskisses said:
    cdpro_2831bbd990 said:
    Anyone getting a blue banner on B8? I might not qualify since I haven't bought any pro bundles in the last couple of months. But I was curious. Because if a blue banner is imminent, I didn't want to go ahead and buy the pro bundle beforehand.

    Not for B8, but I got one today for buying her pro bundle yesterday, to use with today's new releases.

    Yikes, it's hard to stop spending on here once you get started.
  • FSMCDesignsFSMCDesigns Posts: 12,844
    Wonderland said:

    I'm really liking Ellis too! She's gorgeous with really interesting features.... This bundle and addons is great for me!

    Stunning image! Almost makes want to buy into this figure now.

  • cdpro_2831bbd990cdpro_2831bbd990 Posts: 1,430
    Wonderland said:
    Leana said:
    namtar3d said:

    She's cute, but i don't understand the point of making an asian girl with western base. Seriously the artist needed that base character? I think he/she could use Mei Lin or even just G8 female morphs.

    The point of base characters is to have "ingredients" you can use to create your own characters. If using a "western base" as part of the mix brings features that you like for your asian character, why not use it? Why would you have to use Mei Lin just because she's supposed to be asian? It's not like all asian women look like Mei Lin in the first place...

    Taryn is standalone, no need for Bridget! 

    That seemed really strange to me at first, but then I realized that there is really no need to have the extra bundle characters be derivative of the base character as long as their inclusion makes sense in the bundle. I like Taryn a lot. My big dilemma is whether or not to just buy Taryn at a bargain, or go for the bigger bargain of the Bridget bundle along with the $50 extra credit. The downside of course, is it if I go for the bigger bargain it's also the big expenditure. But it is a good deal overall... hmmmm.
  • cdpro_2831bbd990cdpro_2831bbd990 Posts: 1,430
    edited March 2019
    cdpro_2831bbd990 said:
    Wonderland said:
    Leana said:
    namtar3d said:

    She's cute, but i don't understand the point of making an asian girl with western base. Seriously the artist needed that base character? I think he/she could use Mei Lin or even just G8 female morphs.

    The point of base characters is to have "ingredients" you can use to create your own characters. If using a "western base" as part of the mix brings features that you like for your asian character, why not use it? Why would you have to use Mei Lin just because she's supposed to be asian? It's not like all asian women look like Mei Lin in the first place...

    Taryn is standalone, no need for Bridget! 

    That seemed really strange to me at first, but then I realized that there is really no need to have the extra bundle characters be derivative of the base character as long as their inclusion makes sense in the bundle. I like Taryn a lot. My big dilemma is whether or not to just buy Taryn at a bargain, or go for the bigger bargain of the Bridget bundle along with the $50 extra credit. The downside of course, is it if I go for the bigger bargain it's also the big expenditure. But it is a good deal overall... hmmmm.

    The only thing I don't like about the Bridget deal is the pricing on the featured Daz originals. Very often those items are priced at half or even the third of what they are on offer for now. So while the $50 credit sounds great the actual amount it buys is far less than what $50 would buy normally. But it's still a few freebies added onto a decently priced pro bundle. I just got used to the more extravagant buy one pro bundle get two free deal... One of my favorite deals in the past year was when Mika 7 came out. I got an orange banner simply said, get Mika 7 pro bundle for $23 or something close to that. I wasn't sure I even needed Mika. But I liked a lot of the outfits and hair that were included in that bundle. So that one was an easy decision.
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  • WonderlandWonderland Posts: 7,137
    FSMCDesigns said:
    Wonderland said:

    I'm really liking Ellis too! She's gorgeous with really interesting features.... This bundle and addons is great for me!

    Stunning image! Almost makes want to buy into this figure now.

    I just checked and Bridget’s head is at 0%! So I’m not sure why it says it requires Bridget...?  I loaded the figure directly from Smart Content so all morphs should be in it. Very weird! OK, just saw that it is Bridget’s body that is at 70% but you really don’t need that, you can make whatever body you want. The head does not require Bridget!

  • takezo_3001takezo_3001 Posts: 2,026
    edited March 2019
    missuskisses said:
    takezo_3001 said:
    1.)  We continue to voice our opinion about the "lack of" diversity amongst the Genesis 8 and beyond line and hope DAZ listens...maybe...if the interest is there and the sales show it.  Or...

    For the record I never wrote this, it's simply a mistake in the quoting format... also I'd like to add that it is not a question about the end user's/PA's diverse creativity it's that daz has not repeated it's flood of diversity that they had with the 6th gen characters and have largely fallen back to their norm with the original characters... 

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  • takezo_3001takezo_3001 Posts: 2,026
    cherpenbeck said:

    As for not buing POC-characters:

    98 Genesis 8 Males, of which 17 are very much non-human, 11 POC characters

    114 Genesis 8 Females, of which 8 are very much non- human, 27  POC characters

    Characters like Vampires don't count as non-human.

    So, DAZ might re-think at some point in the future? There is still enough of a market for well-made POC and non-human characters. Like believable extraterrestrians which don't look like humans with some decorations and spires attatched.

    You're confusing seperate PAs with Daz's in-house characters...

  • missuskissesmissuskisses Posts: 918
    takezo_3001 said:
    missuskisses said:
    takezo_3001 said:
    1.)  We continue to voice our opinion about the "lack of" diversity amongst the Genesis 8 and beyond line and hope DAZ listens...maybe...if the interest is there and the sales show it.  Or...

    For the record I never wrote this, it's simply a mistake in the quoting format... also I'd like to add that it is not a question about the end user's/PA's diverse creativity it's that daz has not repeated it's flood of diversity that they had with the 6th gen characters and have largely fallen back to their norm with the original characters... 

    Sorry for misreading the quoting format. Looks like we're both talking about Daz core characters, so we're on the same page in that regard. G8 has been pretty diverse in terms of age and wrinkles, so there are certainly things to like about G8 (heck, I own most of the core characters). Hope the rest of G8 will branch out in terms of other kinds of diversity.

  • zombiewhackerzombiewhacker Posts: 696

     

    Divamakeup said:

    It looks like she has a little bit of an Ellen Page vibe. :)

    She's pretty petite and I like her freckles! I think she's pretty cute! 

    Yeah, I'm seeing a bit of Ellen Page in her, too, now that you mention it... though when I first saw her in close-up, my initial impression was Neve Campbell.

  • Phoenix1966Phoenix1966 Posts: 1,857
    zombiewhacker said:

     

    Divamakeup said:

    It looks like she has a little bit of an Ellen Page vibe. :)

    She's pretty petite and I like her freckles! I think she's pretty cute! 

    Yeah, I'm seeing a bit of Ellen Page in her, too, now that you mention it... though when I first saw her in close-up, my initial impression was Neve Campbell.

    Neve Cambell was the vibe I got as well.

  • fred9803fred9803 Posts: 1,565
    rsharp said:
    fred9803 said:

    I suspect like others I often buy characters just for their textures. This Bridget texture looks pretty good but like 90% of skins IMO it's way too red. I lowered the transmitted colour by about 50% saturation to pale it up a bit.

    There's something wrong with the eyes but I can fix that pretty easily.

    Have you tried switching the SSS mode to mono?  When set to chromatic, it will generate a ton of red pixels (noise).  I believe this is what can cause the extra redness?  Of course with ample lighting and render times, that should go away.  But, in my case, I use mono and set the transmitted color to 0.43 0.28 0.19 or similar values.   Definitely a personal preference; I much prefer monochromatic noise than colored noise.

    I also do post-work in Photoshop though and will sometimes desaturate a bit there too.

    Thank you for the advise rsharp. I will certainly give that a go. The render set-up I used had a white spot, a bluish HDRI and a neutral background, so the redness I'm experiencing with many of these skins can't be down to lighting, reflection or radiosity. Thanks again for your tip.

  • FSMCDesignsFSMCDesigns Posts: 12,844
    edited March 2019
    Wonderland said:

    I just checked and Bridget’s head is at 0%! So I’m not sure why it says it requires Bridget...?  I loaded the figure directly from Smart Content so all morphs should be in it. Very weird! OK, just saw that it is Bridget’s body that is at 70% but you really don’t need that, you can make whatever body you want. The head does not require Bridget!

    Thanks for the info Alicia, I went ahead and poicked up Ellis based on your post.. I did a test render and really like her skin, and although I like the head morph, I turned it down to 75% because it was a little to strong, but I am happy with her, reminds me of a strong Latina character. Thanks again.

     

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  • xyer0xyer0 Posts: 6,345
    FSMCDesigns said:
    Wonderland said:

    I just checked and Bridget’s head is at 0%! So I’m not sure why it says it requires Bridget...?  I loaded the figure directly from Smart Content so all morphs should be in it. Very weird! OK, just saw that it is Bridget’s body that is at 70% but you really don’t need that, you can make whatever body you want. The head does not require Bridget!

    Thanks for the info Alicia, I went ahead and poicked up Ellis based on your post.. I did a test render and really like her skin, and although I like the head morph, I turned it down to 75% because it was a little to strong, but I am happy with her, reminds me of a strong Latina character. Thanks again.

     

    Whoa! Or should I say "caliente?"

  • WonderlandWonderland Posts: 7,137
    FSMCDesigns said:
    Wonderland said:

    I just checked and Bridget’s head is at 0%! So I’m not sure why it says it requires Bridget...?  I loaded the figure directly from Smart Content so all morphs should be in it. Very weird! OK, just saw that it is Bridget’s body that is at 70% but you really don’t need that, you can make whatever body you want. The head does not require Bridget!

    Thanks for the info Alicia, I went ahead and poicked up Ellis based on your post.. I did a test render and really like her skin, and although I like the head morph, I turned it down to 75% because it was a little to strong, but I am happy with her, reminds me of a strong Latina character. Thanks again.

     

    Looks awesome!!!

  • JOdelJOdel Posts: 6,322
    Wonderland said:
    FSMCDesigns said:
    Wonderland said:

    I just checked and Bridget’s head is at 0%! So I’m not sure why it says it requires Bridget...?  I loaded the figure directly from Smart Content so all morphs should be in it. Very weird! OK, just saw that it is Bridget’s body that is at 70% but you really don’t need that, you can make whatever body you want. The head does not require Bridget!

    Sounds rather like she needs Bridget for the smaller size. Assuming she is smaller than V8's 5'10" or whatever.

  • 3Diva3Diva Posts: 11,980
    edited March 2019

    I'm having a lot of fun with this bundle. :) This isn't Bridget but it's one of the outfits that comes with the pro bundle (plus one of the texture add-ons) and one of the hair that comes with the pro bundle. 

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  • WonderlandWonderland Posts: 7,137
    JOdel said:
    Wonderland said:
    FSMCDesigns said:
    Wonderland said:

    I just checked and Bridget’s head is at 0%! So I’m not sure why it says it requires Bridget...?  I loaded the figure directly from Smart Content so all morphs should be in it. Very weird! OK, just saw that it is Bridget’s body that is at 70% but you really don’t need that, you can make whatever body you want. The head does not require Bridget!

    Sounds rather like she needs Bridget for the smaller size. Assuming she is smaller than V8's 5'10" or whatever.

     

    JOdel said:
    Wonderland said:
    FSMCDesigns said:
    Wonderland said:

    I just checked and Bridget’s head is at 0%! So I’m not sure why it says it requires Bridget...?  I loaded the figure directly from Smart Content so all morphs should be in it. Very weird! OK, just saw that it is Bridget’s body that is at 70% but you really don’t need that, you can make whatever body you want. The head does not require Bridget!

    Sounds rather like she needs Bridget for the smaller size. Assuming she is smaller than V8's 5'10" or whatever.

    It’s really easy to make a body any realistic body size already with existing morphs. I almost never use the body that comes with a character anyway or maybe only as a base. I get characters for their face and/or skin. I never even pay attention to the body because I know I’m going to change it.

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