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Actually, the figure loads and performs better in DS than it did in Poser, all the maps are there, they just need a decent shader. All Sanctum Arts stuff looks better. Their Grim armour looked great, in Poser the helmet lenses were just transparent holes, in DS there were proper lit lenses. The beard hair on the Horde just sat there and looked silly in Poser, whereas there are control morphs for it in DS. It is odd then that they were distributed by Poser vendors and not here in Daz. Whatever, we'll never know now as Sanctum Arts are long gone, which is a crying shame, as I would love to have seen Marine armour from them.
CHEERS! Breakfast didn't sit well with me, so I had to lay down for a bit, feeling better now.
A bit of glossiness, as is on the nose, is good. The body needs that velvet (peach-fuzz efect) with gloss turned off almost completely. I don't think they would look correct if both were everywhere.
Also, Atticus Bones fur pelt would look awesome on that... If it could be turned into a proper mat for the fella.
http://www.daz3d.com/forums/viewreply/690946/
Hmmm.
I'll get to the MAT later, however, I discovered that I could play with the figure more. He is now high resolution, sub divided and, get this, weight mapped! He's now saved as a .DUF with all morphs intact and the hair is fitted and saved as .DUFs too. In effect he is now a full and proper modern Daz figure! Now I need to reload and save all the poses and we're laughing! After that I'll get to the MAT. If only Sanctum Art would agree to the figure being re-released in this format......
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If only there was a way to get the M4 UV onto him, I could use RawArt's Manwolf texture on him........
There's a thread on building clones...it's a pretty long one and I don't remember if there is information in it on doing UV transfers or not. Of course if you are pretty decent with Photoshop you could do the manual cut and paste method.
Hell, I loved that movie. But for most people, the 3delight Laboratory, Tips and Tricks probably be more informative.
Testing lights on a very different scene.
Hell, I loved that movie. But for most people, the 3delight Laboratory, Tips and Tricks probably be more informative.
Testing lights on a very different scene.Nice!
I had noticed when I went to do a final render of that Dragon, I forgot to click the On/Off thing for the reflection on the eyes, lol. Final version is at DA, and a jpg from the render cache is over at the EJ Rafaga thread.
http://www.daz3d.com/forums/viewreply/801234/
I left the DazDefault shader on the teeth and claws, and dialed in a bit of reflection, and removed the map in the Specular color and killed all bump and displacement, to get a cleaner reflection.
Other than being a little too 'white', it's looking pretty good. I like the middle one the best as it seems to have more 'realistic' shadows, There doesn't seem to be a very stong/bright sun (background is somewhat hazy (DOF?)), so that implies to me a bit of overcast...hence softer shadows.
I'm guessing it's not a full GI setup, so no bounce...that's probably what's missing the slight greenish tint from the grass and leaves.
Hell, I loved that movie. But for most people, the 3delight Laboratory, Tips and Tricks probably be more informative.
Testing lights on a very different scene.
They look fantastic!
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There's a thread on building clones...it's a pretty long one and I don't remember if there is information in it on doing UV transfers or not. Of course if you are pretty decent with Photoshop you could do the manual cut and paste method.
Eeeee, that sounds complicated!
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Ok, I've been working away on a MAT for my Horde and below is what I've done so far. The shader is US2 with Kettu's settings. The gloss is turned off on the body to give the skin a more dog-like look and I did use some velvet on the nose and lips to get that wet look. I haven't done the inside of the mouth and teeth yet, has anyone got any suggestions for settings!?
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Thanks.
Middle one is supposed to be more hazy/cloud sky and the distant light is less powerful with far less sharp shadows. The lower one is the full outdoor setup. The first one is somewhere in between.
The background is KHPark of course. :) And you can do full GI with it, I just chose not to, due to the grass not having any shading override controls.
And since you probably don't wan to wait until NEXT Saturday for it finish...probably a good idea.
Love this. Scary leathery creature! What would it look like with more "infernal" colour to the glow in its eyes?
As for mouth, I'd say the Ketchup SSS setting could work, and adding around 40% sharpness to specular to make it more "slick".
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Hell, I loved that movie. But for most people, the 3delight Laboratory, Tips and Tricks probably be more informative.
Testing lights on a very different scene.
Lovely scene! Is that AoA's grass? I haven't yet done any extensive testing, but it (being displacement-only, no transmaps) seemed to be okay with GI speed-wise.
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Here's a test of that old Poser figure James. I absolutely love the default face shape and the expression morphs; for me, they're the easiest to use. But the body rigging is not so good and geometry wasn't obviously built with 3Delight's raytraced SSS in mind (or any SSS, for that matter). I also have no idea what's wrong with his eyes, seems like the iris is indented around the perimeter??
I need to check out the JamesG2 version and see if it got better without breaking the good points...
So I made a new thread for us to migrate to (in case you fill up this one while I'm away):
http://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/55128/
Have a yet another caustics teaser to go with that =)
Thanks Kettu, the Caustics look good there. I was off trying to figure out why Photometric lights were not behaving in 3delight, and working fine in Iray, lol.
http://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/55127/
That's just me I guess, it ended up in the wrong forum, lol. I think? or is that not a 'Commons' like topic? All fixed, thanks.
Thanks =) I'm trying to come up with more interesting scenes for caustics than just vases and rings... Any ideas?
The Commons is like "anything goes" LOL And where everything drowns...
I would say the most transferable light rig would be a "physical" one: a mesh light. There are 3Delight area light shaders for DS, and Iray can use "emissive" materials.
You can't make the mesh light invisible in Iray, it seems, though. Not with the "cutout opacity" control, at least.
Thanks =) I'm trying to come up with more interesting scenes for caustics than just vases and rings... Any ideas?
The Commons is like "anything goes" LOL And where everything drowns...
I would say the most transferable light rig would be a "physical" one: a mesh light. There are 3Delight area light shaders for DS, and Iray can use "emissive" materials.
You can't make the mesh light invisible in Iray, it seems, though. Not with the "cutout opacity" control, at least.
The uber lights don't work in Iray, and the Iray Emissive lights don't work in 3delight, thus not exactly what I was hoping to achieve. Tho I think I just figured out a cruel cheat, lol. Photometric Iray Massive Soft-box fill-in lights. Testing render now.
(Yep)
Just have to figure more out, lol.
Thanks =) I'm trying to come up with more interesting scenes for caustics than just vases and rings... Any ideas?
The Commons is like "anything goes" LOL And where everything drowns...
I would say the most transferable light rig would be a "physical" one: a mesh light. There are 3Delight area light shaders for DS, and Iray can use "emissive" materials.
You can't make the mesh light invisible in Iray, it seems, though. Not with the "cutout opacity" control, at least.
Not only that you can have one light usable in 3 renderers (and two exporters)...3DL, with a shader, Luxrender (both Luxus and Reality) and Iray. For Luxrender and Iray you can even attach the same IES file to it, so it would basically be the same light in both.
Not only that you can have one light usable in 3 renderers (and two exporters)...3DL, with a shader, Luxrender (both Luxus and Reality) and Iray. For Luxrender and Iray you can even attach the same IES file to it, so it would basically be the same light in both.I like the sound of that, especially if all I need to do as a user, is select the render engine, lol.
For now, it's just my test chamber vs Iray and 3delight. (Yes, that is the Photometric Spotlights filling in for the large Uber panels, that otherwise would not function in Iray) Added a 3Delight run of the same exact lights and everything, except the mirror ball.
Yup. Twiddle with it a bit so it has more variations. Haven't tried using bounceGI or indirect light yet, but even with UE2's AO mode, it can be pretty slow if you have a lot of them viewable. So theoretically speaking, it should be slower with UE2 indirect light or bounceG (even with your script).
It does tend to be faster if you don't have a lot of variations, but then the grass will look more like a uniform rug.
Yup. Twiddle with it a bit so it has more variations. Haven't tried using bounceGI or indirect light yet, but even with UE2's AO mode, it can be pretty slow if you have a lot of them viewable. So theoretically speaking, it should be slower with UE2 indirect light or bounceG (even with your script).
It does tend to be faster if you don't have a lot of variations, but then the grass will look more like a uniform rug.
I think the best/quickest grass I've seen was something Alessandro did as a demo for LAMH. But I'm not sure something that's designed primarily for small scale things like a head, is going to be the best way to do hair...and if you want variation, you'll have to stack a couple slightly differing layers, because it would be too difficult to make enough variation with what are basically hair grooming tools.
And without a native particle/curve interface there aren't going to be any reasonable (time to render) grass solutions in DS...especially when adding full GI.
One thing at a time. If I had to chose, I'd rather have a good and fast GI implementation rather than grass.
Of course, I'm not saying a good grass/fur/hair generator is needed. I'd love to have something like the Ivy Generator or Greeble blocks with instancing support. I saw a demo of a tool in SoftImage that lets you actually build vines just by painting on the scene. With those things, you can pretty much use procedural geometry for everything. Plus they can actually respond to environment variables (wind, gravity etc). There's also tools like SpeedTree of course, which have been available for real time purposes for quite a while.
The grass shader is rather quirky for my taste. For custom variations, you either use masks or as you said, stack one prop over the other, with each having their own settings. Definitely no match for the tools above, but for just adding a little omph to your DS renders, they're good enough.
Love this. Scary leathery creature! What would it look like with more "infernal" colour to the glow in its eyes?
As for mouth, I'd say the Ketchup SSS setting could work, and adding around 40% sharpness to specular to make it more "slick".
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Thanks. I'll give that a try. I did notice one slight problem in that you get glare on the neck just below the ears and behind the jaw. This is because the face texture zone encompasses that part where it would be a part of the torso on G2. Not much I can do about that. I'll leave the fur as it is as experiments with UberSurface didn't yield good results.
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LAMH can do instancing, according to its docs. So if you have grass props, you could roll a few distributions for each separately and combine them. I haven't tried it yet, though.
I wonder if it's possible to get T.Luft's free and open-source Ivy Generator ( http://graphics.uni-konstanz.de/~luft/ivy_generator/ ) and package it as a DS plugin.
See y'all in the new thread!
Yeah, I can't wait, either...but right now, you can make ones for Luxrender, at least for Luxus, and 3DL that work, but it requires using Eluxur (the ShaderMixer plugin for Luxus). But until 4.8 is 'official' a tri-renderer (or more) would have to be hand crafted, at least on the scripting and I'm not good enough at scripting to pull it off, although with Kettu's help I am getting better at it.
Kettu, sounds good if your just clicking one eyeball in the scene tab. If it's three area lights, and three spot lights being turned off, and six others being turned on, when switching between render engines, it dos become a bit of a drag. Especially when there parented to other things like a tree.
It's just so much easier to mess with lights that just work in both, so you only need to select the render engine, rather then thumbing threw a tree of lights.
I did have some success, tho Studio is still in beta, and it's taking advantage of a few issues with how Iray and 3delight treat lights in the current beta.
http://www.daz3d.com/forums/viewreply/802074/
Nope, doesn't have to be.
You use a null to parent all your stuff to (then it's the master null that gets a meaningful name), and then you run this script on the null:
https://sites.google.com/site/mcasualsdazscripts4/mcjselectallmychildren
And then, you go to the Parameters tab and flip the "Visible" switch for all of them.
Nope, doesn't have to be.
You use a null to parent all your stuff to (then it's the master null that gets a meaningful name), and then you run this script on the null:
https://sites.google.com/site/mcasualsdazscripts4/mcjselectallmychildren
And then, you go to the Parameters tab and flip the "Visible" switch for all of them.
Or select the lights, Create>New Group and just use the eyeball on the group.
Thank you Richard! It's awesome to know that there is a layer-like functionality in DS these days!
Rendered the same scene twice ; one with UE2 and the other with AoA's Ambient light. Had a 3 point light rig set up, and left the settings on it the same.
The interesting thing to me is the difference in skin tone, which I didn't adjust at all.
Not sure which one I like better.
Opinions?
I like the second one better but the skin does look a little tiny bit gray/lifeless around the neck- maybe turn your main light source up a little?
...yeah am considering looking back to 3DL again. Do not have the funds for a powerful enough GPU to make Iray really efficient. Furthermore I miss being able to use a lot of "in render" effects.
I still really like the AoA lights, even though flagging SSS surfaces is now broken.
Here is the 3DL version of a scene I also rendered in Iray. In the 4.8 Beta it took all of 14 minutes to render at 1,600 x 1,200. In Iray it took over 2.5 hours and all of the textures looked flat even though I increased the bump and displacement. This used the AoA ambient light one AoA distant lights and one wide beam low intensity AoA spotlight below the ground plane to simulate GI bounce on the shelter.and girls.