How many folks are ignoring someone/me?

nelsonsmith

Wait-a-minute. . . there's an ignore option?

IceDragonArt

Ivy said:

I hope you are not offended I used your profile for example. I assure you I have not ignored you..lol

 to ignore someone  see capture

 

lol no not offended in the least. Thank you!  I did know how to follow threads just wasn't sure if you could follow individual people. 

(thought I posted this in response this afternoon but apperantly not)

3Diva

I've only considered putting two people on ignore. So far I've not done that and hopefully I won't need to. 

PS- Anyone that would put YOU on ignore, Will, is missing out on a wealth of information and helpful tips. :)

HorusRa

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Ippotamus

I only ignore the white knights and the black knights.

Their predictable and unending contrasts make me dizzy and clash with my goals of generally enjoying my hobby.

Esemwy

I ignore most threads here, but I do it the old fashioned way. Mostly, I just lurk, in the time honored tradition of Usenet. 

zombietaggerung

I've only ever "officially" ignored one person, but that's only because something they posted filled me with such inarticulate rage I had to keep myself from responding with a wall of enraged text, so I ignored them to keep from seeing anything they posted ever again. There is another I probably should ignore, but they are simply a minor annoyance and I can scroll past their posts just fine. 

I'd never ignore @timmins.william though, he gives too many good tips. 

RAMWolff

I think my ignore list was in use in the old forums but here, honestly, I don't have anyone on it.  As the poster above pointed out, there are some folks that get on my nerves but not to the point where I want to block them.  Now on Facebook... that's a different story!  I have SUCH a long list!  lmao

jakiblue

I don't think I have anyone on my ignore list here at all. I just skim over the posts if it's someone I don't like reading. I do have two people on my block list on FB tho LOL!!! Never seen them post here tho. 

I like the "ignore" and "block" features of forums - just like in Real Life, there are posters who I intensly dislike, and feel they are not very nice people at all, so I'd rather not have to read anything they post. Anyone ever see that "Black Mirror" (UK anthology show) where you can 'block' people in real life? That was an amazing episodem - kinda scared me a bit LOL (as did all their episodes). 

Aiijuin Graphics

I'm not too familiar with this forum, or any forum in general...so I don't ignore here or any other forum.  Now, DeviantArt is a different story with spambots and trolls that oft infest the art community out there.

For DAZ forums, I have posted some remarks & started a few discussion threads here, but honestly -- I still have no idea on how to checkup on old posts that I didn't start in order to see if I've earned a response or not.  If I have ignored you or anyone else on this forum, it's an honest mistake since I can't figure these things out very well... I'm social media impaired and too lazy to remedy being old fashioned in regards to these 'new fangled methods of communicate'n, & stuff. <---- (My piney half has taken over at the moment)  

Also, I go away from DAZ completely for days at a time when I'm totally broke in order to avoid feeling tempted and disappointed that I can't buy a new item that I might want, so not ignoring - just being poor and brooding until payday.

Gogger

Hmm.. Admittedly I have only read about 70% of this thread, but I skipped to the end to state my simple observation. When I read the actual first post (rather than the thread header) I took it to be less about actually being on an 'ignore' list and with a subsequent comment by the OP later, I took his point to be a very simple, "I'm feeling out of sorts and could use some affection." Which everyone amply stepped up and provided.   

Which brings me to a second observation.  It's fairly safe to assume that we all come here because we like to render things with DAZ Studio (or some such) but in that commonality we also bond in ways no one could predict. Reading these replies and reassurances, I see a community of the very best of what being human is all about. Yeah, sure, there are some terds, but that is a fact of life. But the real moving part is that for the mere love of a common interest we will band together and lift one another up. I'm not ashamed to admit that I cried when I read that Jaderail had passed, and for some stupid, inexplicable reason still get all choked up - I mean, I didn't actually KNOW the guy even though we had private messaged a little. But what I saw was that he endlessly and tirelessly tried to help people grow, and to reassure them, and nurture them along this sometimes frustrating path. He gave and gave and gave right up until he died.

You're a giver, Will.  Stay the course and never let the "bat terds" wear you down! 

3delinquent

I generally can't tell someones real personality or true nature from a few lines of text. People I might have felt like ignoring in the heat of the moment at some point have always ended up making comments I have appreciated or valued elsewhere at other times. I would have missed that if I had ignored them. I might consider ignoring someone I felt was trolling me in a manner subtle enough to avoid moderation. I've been guilty of going over the top and I better not mention what happened but it was fair enough for sure. No one who saw those posts attacked me for it - good community, sensible moderation. I can't ignore you Will or I'll miss out on too much I would have to learn the hard way elsewhere. I did consider ignoring McGyver because then I wouldn't fall off my chair so often, but I'm suspicious there's some real benefit I get out of his posts as well. So, no ignores for me. (I'm not saying I'm not ignorant, I'm just not ignoring anyone, at least not much).

3Diva

@HorusRa I am not familiar with your posts and, honestly, I didn't have time to read your entire post here (wall o' text makes me want to run far away lol). But if you feel you are on a lot of ignore lists it might only be due to the length of your posts (if, indeed, you tend to write long posts like that one). I'm not saying that to be mean or hateful - please don't take it that way. But many of us are lazy (I know I'm a lazy girl lol) or just really turned off by walls of text and so we often won't read it (and of course since not reading it, not responding to it). lol If you keep your posts shorter I think you'd get a lot more feedback. :)

Aiijuin Graphics

Gogger said:

Hmm.. Admittedly I have only read about 70% of this thread, but I skipped to the end to state my simple observation. When I read the actual first post (rather than the thread header) I took it to be less about actually being on an 'ignore' list and with a subsequent comment by the OP later, I took his point to be a very simple, "I'm feeling out of sorts and could use some affection." Which everyone amply stepped up and provided.   
 

Agreed!  Then, everyone could use a bit of love now and then. 

We're all human here (I think - unless someone's cat has commandeered Will's thread without my knowledge).  

Anyway --- You're an alright guy so far as I'm concerned, Will!  I usually step up to many of your threads and post remarks on them.  They and you seem pretty level and kind of fun to respond to.   

oh, and I WAS serious about disappearing from DAZ for days at a time when my pockets are empty until payday....

... wait a minute... 

ROSEBUD

Nope.  The Sims cheat codes have failed me.  Back into the isolation of YouTube until payday.

IceDragonArt

HorusRa said:

I like this conversation and have found it very informative. Had to bring it to my wifes attention too, as she needed to see this.
Well I'm sure I'm on a ton of 'Ignore' lists, evidently, especially since near no one talks to me nor answers my questions on the help forums.
I'm about the nicest person anybody could ever meet, and often taken wrong, some of this if not most is the result of self-assumption by "others."
​Last year around this time I made a statement on the forums here, I wrote it out completely wrong, what I said was of course not what I meant at all. I turned around and made a sincere apology on the forums for all to see.
​I stated what I meant vs what I wrote. I had a number of folks who accepted my apology who weren't worried about it (cheers to those folks), several who accepted but realized what I wrote was NOT what I meant (cheers to those folks), and I can only assume a slew who are self-assumptive and seem to "think" they know better than myself on just what I meant, including one PA.
​So to make a long description short, I imagine a slew of people, maybe a few PA's have spread this around and have attempted to turn the numbers against me, but then maybe not. I come to a lot of suspicion from watching what goes on, in this case, the forums and the galleries. People used to answer any help topics I've started, and then I noticed after a time it dropped off, significantly​, err, or it certainly seems.
​I also notice when placing images in the galleries that I get a lot less likes anymore (not that I care about 'Like' "collecting," because I don't, but this has been noticed, and I think that I do pretty good stuff, certainly not amateurish by any means, but neither professional. Has this been another effect of my mis-stated comment referred above? Who knows, maybe not. Another thing that is of concern is when someone starts a thread in the forums here stating to submit renders which relate to the threads subject. I've done this a few times, know my submissions were really good. I watched everybody else pat each other on the back about how they liked their renders, not ONE mention on mine. Again, it's not a "like" collecting thing, but there are principles involved. I no longer frequent such posts, I fear starting a new thread like the plague. I don't submit as much stuff to the galleries as I used to, and greatest of all, I don't purchase no where near as much content as I did, cut down by 3/4 even.
​A while back, 4-5 months perhaps, my wife joined daz, as she sees the stuff I do and listens to me when I talk to her aboyut Daz issues, so she took a great liking to Daz Studio, plus she took art in school for years, something I didn't know. Long story short, she started witnessing the lack of likes in the gallery on my stuff, the lack of answers to my thread questions, she also witnessed that when I say things in the forums no one talks to me (this may be nothing however), and lastly, but importantly; she witnessed the attack on me by others in my description above on my mis-statement. She read the posts and observed the whole fiasco with disdain. She knows what I meant, knows I wrote my post completely wrong, but she also knows I'm one of the nicest people one could ever know or meet, I go out of my way to even help folks, sometimes even when it's been very disadvantegeous to myself. Needless to say, how did this all ​effect my wife? She became disinterested in some respects for Daz as a whole in a round about way, she doesn't blame Daz corp, daz lost a customer out of this. It's sad that peoples behavior can completely chase other off. I sometimes wonder how many people daz have lost, or who has left because of forum treatment, or the galleries "inner club" mentality.
​Anyway, we must strive to remember when it comes to things like I've outlined, it has an effect, and in this case it has effected Daz corp, as they have lost my wife completely as a new customer, and lost 3/4 of cash I would have otherwise have spent here, now it goes to "other" stores or to Newtek for Lightwave, as I never came to daz originally for architecture models, I can model my own, have for decades, but instead characters because I am not at this time a organic modeler, however, I liked a lot of the prop stuff I found here, and decided to buy a ton, which does save me time from modeling it. This all is the moral of the story, cause and effect. We should all strive to be careful who we ban or block (even though it's a free world,... so far), and make sure we understand someone before we take action. This is just my real-life story on Daz.

[edited to add]: oops, sorry, timmins.william, for what it matters, you are not on mine, nor is anyone else, nor do I use it or ever will. Have no use for the 'ignore' stuff. I believe everyone has a right to say what they want within guideline rules, if I don't agree or like a comment, I can scroll past it. It's very miniscule pains really.
 

Well, I don't think I ever saw whatever post you wrote so you are fine with me at least.  I am sadly remiss about visiting the galleries I am trying to remember to click on links in signature lines so I can go browse and comment but I often (most of the time to be honest) just forget. Although I am working on it.  Please don't let anyone drive you off.  I have found that things do tend to blow over and if you did your best to correct the misunderstanding and issued a public apology (which, by the way takes a lot of guts, not everyone is wiling to do that even if they are in the wrong and know it) then you should come back and join in again.

3Diva

Ice Dragon Art said:

HorusRa said:

I like this conversation and have found it very informative. Had to bring it to my wifes attention too, as she needed to see this.
Well I'm sure I'm on a ton of 'Ignore' lists, evidently, especially since near no one talks to me nor answers my questions on the help forums.
I'm about the nicest person anybody could ever meet, and often taken wrong, some of this if not most is the result of self-assumption by "others."
​Last year around this time I made a statement on the forums here, I wrote it out completely wrong, what I said was of course not what I meant at all. I turned around and made a sincere apology on the forums for all to see.
​I stated what I meant vs what I wrote. I had a number of folks who accepted my apology who weren't worried about it (cheers to those folks), several who accepted but realized what I wrote was NOT what I meant (cheers to those folks), and I can only assume a slew who are self-assumptive and seem to "think" they know better than myself on just what I meant, including one PA.
​So to make a long description short, I imagine a slew of people, maybe a few PA's have spread this around and have attempted to turn the numbers against me, but then maybe not. I come to a lot of suspicion from watching what goes on, in this case, the forums and the galleries. People used to answer any help topics I've started, and then I noticed after a time it dropped off, significantly​, err, or it certainly seems.
​I also notice when placing images in the galleries that I get a lot less likes anymore (not that I care about 'Like' "collecting," because I don't, but this has been noticed, and I think that I do pretty good stuff, certainly not amateurish by any means, but neither professional. Has this been another effect of my mis-stated comment referred above? Who knows, maybe not. Another thing that is of concern is when someone starts a thread in the forums here stating to submit renders which relate to the threads subject. I've done this a few times, know my submissions were really good. I watched everybody else pat each other on the back about how they liked their renders, not ONE mention on mine. Again, it's not a "like" collecting thing, but there are principles involved. I no longer frequent such posts, I fear starting a new thread like the plague. I don't submit as much stuff to the galleries as I used to, and greatest of all, I don't purchase no where near as much content as I did, cut down by 3/4 even.
​A while back, 4-5 months perhaps, my wife joined daz, as she sees the stuff I do and listens to me when I talk to her aboyut Daz issues, so she took a great liking to Daz Studio, plus she took art in school for years, something I didn't know. Long story short, she started witnessing the lack of likes in the gallery on my stuff, the lack of answers to my thread questions, she also witnessed that when I say things in the forums no one talks to me (this may be nothing however), and lastly, but importantly; she witnessed the attack on me by others in my description above on my mis-statement. She read the posts and observed the whole fiasco with disdain. She knows what I meant, knows I wrote my post completely wrong, but she also knows I'm one of the nicest people one could ever know or meet, I go out of my way to even help folks, sometimes even when it's been very disadvantegeous to myself. Needless to say, how did this all ​effect my wife? She became disinterested in some respects for Daz as a whole in a round about way, she doesn't blame Daz corp, daz lost a customer out of this. It's sad that peoples behavior can completely chase other off. I sometimes wonder how many people daz have lost, or who has left because of forum treatment, or the galleries "inner club" mentality.
​Anyway, we must strive to remember when it comes to things like I've outlined, it has an effect, and in this case it has effected Daz corp, as they have lost my wife completely as a new customer, and lost 3/4 of cash I would have otherwise have spent here, now it goes to "other" stores or to Newtek for Lightwave, as I never came to daz originally for architecture models, I can model my own, have for decades, but instead characters because I am not at this time a organic modeler, however, I liked a lot of the prop stuff I found here, and decided to buy a ton, which does save me time from modeling it. This all is the moral of the story, cause and effect. We should all strive to be careful who we ban or block (even though it's a free world,... so far), and make sure we understand someone before we take action. This is just my real-life story on Daz.

[edited to add]: oops, sorry, timmins.william, for what it matters, you are not on mine, nor is anyone else, nor do I use it or ever will. Have no use for the 'ignore' stuff. I believe everyone has a right to say what they want within guideline rules, if I don't agree or like a comment, I can scroll past it. It's very miniscule pains really.
 

Well, I don't think I ever saw whatever post you wrote so you are fine with me at least.  I am sadly remiss about visiting the galleries I am trying to remember to click on links in signature lines so I can go browse and comment but I often (most of the time to be honest) just forget. Although I am working on it.  Please don't let anyone drive you off.  I have found that things do tend to blow over and if you did your best to correct the misunderstanding and issued a public apology (which, by the way takes a lot of guts, not everyone is wiling to do that even if they are in the wrong and know it) then you should come back and join in again.

I agree with Sonja - things get blown out of proportion and then blow over. And collectively we tend to have short memories anyway, so give it a little time and I'm sure people will forget. I too don't know about the issue in which you're talking about, but I'm sure it will blow over. Don't sweat it and don't let anyone chase you away from the forum! :)

Fisty

CypherFOX said:

I do use the ignore feature, but only for one person at this point.  It takes a lot, like...nothing constructive over weeks of posting, and constantly hating on everything, and shocking amounts of entitlement and 'I know better than everyone' for me to throw up my hands and give up.

Yeah, that's what got the one person I'm ignoring on my list.. and it's probably the same person. (It's not you, Will)

 

IceDragonArt

Fisty said:

CypherFOX said:

I do use the ignore feature, but only for one person at this point.  It takes a lot, like...nothing constructive over weeks of posting, and constantly hating on everything, and shocking amounts of entitlement and 'I know better than everyone' for me to throw up my hands and give up.

Yeah, that's what got the one person I'm ignoring on my list.. and it's probably the same person. (It's not you, Will)

 

Sadly I think I know who this is as well and if I was going to ignore, then this would be it.  Which just makes me kind of sad to be honest.

Petercat

I don't ignore anyone. I have a thick skin to match my smart mouth. Anything that someone could say that would make me want to ignore them would get them not only banned for life by the moderators, but buried near a crossroads under a full moon with a stake in their heart.

And yes, I've had the odd post or two removed as well. But I much prefer to be pleasant, funny, and encouraging to others. I want to like the man I see in the mirror.

Scavenger

I'm ignoring you so much, I clicked on this thread so I could send you a PM :)

3Diva

Fisty said:

CypherFOX said:

I do use the ignore feature, but only for one person at this point.  It takes a lot, like...nothing constructive over weeks of posting, and constantly hating on everything, and shocking amounts of entitlement and 'I know better than everyone' for me to throw up my hands and give up.

Yeah, that's what got the one person I'm ignoring on my list.. and it's probably the same person. (It's not you, Will)

 

I think that might be the same person I've been considering blocking! lol

Mendoman

I haven't ignored anybody, and as far as I know, this seems to be a very civil community. Only times things seems to get little heated, is when people start to talk about $ or criticize PAs, but then moderators are ever vigilant.

@HorusRa At least you are not on my ignore list. But like divamakeup said, long posts are hard to read. I read your post originally from a cell phone ( Most of the time I read these forums on my way to work ), and without double line breaks, it's very tempting to skip long posts.

Ruphuss

if you ignore someone dont you miss the

" ah he/she again" ?

you ever visited a steam forum ?

man this forum is so polite

only some mods with no sense of humour

but even that i got used to

Novica

@HorusRa- I wouldn't go by the number of likes in the gallery, you don't know how many people and appreciate your work and just don't like using Likes. (If I remember correctly, which brings me to my second point-) A lot of us NEVER visit the Gallery. Ever. So we're ignoring everyone! 

Just do what you want to do because you enjoy it, and not because you expect the interaction. I tend to think it's also the size of the forums, there's too many sections to surf on any given day.  I've been "doing my thing" in Art Studio three years and tons of people don't know about the threads over there.  It's not lack of support, it's lack of having time, lack of knowing, and perhaps lack of interest. I'm sorry if people aren't answering your questions, the moderators seem good at doing that but think of the massive amount of threads they have to keep up with! 

I do totally agree the massive size of your post may keep people from even reading it- use paragraphs and white spaces and see if that helps you get more responses. You express yourself very well and I hope you and your wife both feel more welcome in the future. 

fred9803

In my view ignoring someone is like thinking that this person will never have something worthwhile to say. And that's a bit sad.

I try my best not to post to forums when I'm drinking because that feeling the next morning, "OMG... why the hell did I say that!", is really very horrible.

nelsonsmith

I can't recall anything you've ever said, or posted, that would even have me considering blocking you, Will.    You offer very good tips,  and your renders are unique and interesting.  If someone did block you, then they're missing out.

Taoz

I believe in free speech and am not easily offended (except if someone tries to deny me my right to speak freely), so I ignore the Ignore button.

mindsong

someone back there said (roughly) 'yer a giver, Will' - and I agree. Pragmatic, generous/wise, and often with a wit that needs to be read twice to catch - the best kind.

cheers to you, but now you got me all worried about who loves me too. not...

(certainly not the moderators, but they've graciously cens cleaned out anything that might offend future generations, so it's all good now - but oh, the damage they've done - $$$ - little do they know).

I don't "ignore" anyone - at least not with a forum 'bit'. You wouldn't be on the list of I did. Thanks for everything you share with the likes of us.

cheers,

--ms

(edit for typo)

Mythmaker

Didn't know there's an ignore option, didn't go out looking for it either. (if only ignoring someone will make them go away I might lol)

But well Youtube and game forums have taught me to quickly sieve out signals from noise.

 

Daz forum is tame (and definitely very tamed by today's terms). Having more user input ratings keep the facade prettier friendlier than needless show of force. 

Paranoia is never good for u$er ba$e growth, and we all want this fun to last, right? Good balanced moderating definitely helps, esp the ability to differentiate between net contributers vs net blackholes. 

Good forum design will help: I prefer to Like, but where is a like button? If I ran a hobbyist forum I will include more fun positive buttons, "Like", "Funny", "Informative" "Artistic+". If only to balance out the most obvious button: press this alarm if you spot a fellow CRIMINAL! 

 But, seriouly... meditate calmly on that! 

 

More constructive pro-growth ideas...

Come to think of it, I would like to have an "ignore this product" button for the store, since there's no way to filter by quality. I would like above average products to get a chance to be seen and purchased. 

Maybe a "move to bottom" option other than move to wish list. No-one needs to know other than Daz3D, and users get a cleaner (for me less boring) shopping experience. Just a thought!

 

Szark

sorry did someone say something. :)