Leroy 8

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  • xyer0xyer0 Posts: 6,333
    L'Adair said:
    xyer0 said:

     

    So, while I like Leroy, and the character Lewis, and the two included hairs, I can't say the rest of the bundle I like. The clothing doesn't have very much detail, and looks mostly the same. You've got two pants and shirts/ pants and sweater outfits, both of which are dforce and honestly, don't have the detail I would like to see, and making them dforce doesn't make them look better.

    I happen to prefer contemporary outfits, and wardrobe, so I am disappointed that they arent that realistic. We got better clothing with conforming stuff for Gen 3

    The fantasy clothing looks better, than the contemporary stuff hands down, so thats good for those who render it.

    Since this was my opinion, I just decided to quote Serene Night. But I look at the two hairs, and I wonder how?! Why wasn't Samsil roped in to give us anything else but these? Didn't Redz have enough time to give us some other hair?

    Samsil is no longer a PA here at Daz. That might have something to do with… Not sure what Redz is up to, but she is undoubtedly very busy. Gotta admit, I wouldn't mind seeing more Redz' hair in DO bundles, though.

    But Samsil has released at least one product here since his name was taken off of his products.

  • Hera said:

    Remember my name - FAME

    Everyone born in the 70ies or earlier know what I mean :-)

    I was born in the 60's and don't have a clue what you mean... probably because I'm german and living in Germany.

    Leroy from the show Fame...either TV or Broadway. I remember him more from the TV show after Welcome Back Kotter. 

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  • L'AdairL'Adair Posts: 9,479
    xyer0 said:
    L'Adair said:
    xyer0 said:

     

    So, while I like Leroy, and the character Lewis, and the two included hairs, I can't say the rest of the bundle I like. The clothing doesn't have very much detail, and looks mostly the same. You've got two pants and shirts/ pants and sweater outfits, both of which are dforce and honestly, don't have the detail I would like to see, and making them dforce doesn't make them look better.

    I happen to prefer contemporary outfits, and wardrobe, so I am disappointed that they arent that realistic. We got better clothing with conforming stuff for Gen 3

    The fantasy clothing looks better, than the contemporary stuff hands down, so thats good for those who render it.

    Since this was my opinion, I just decided to quote Serene Night. But I look at the two hairs, and I wonder how?! Why wasn't Samsil roped in to give us anything else but these? Didn't Redz have enough time to give us some other hair?

    Samsil is no longer a PA here at Daz. That might have something to do with… Not sure what Redz is up to, but she is undoubtedly very busy. Gotta admit, I wouldn't mind seeing more Redz' hair in DO bundles, though.

    But Samsil has released at least one product here since his name was taken off of his products.

    I believe Daz has released several Samsil products since he left, as DOs, but any links to SamSil's page go to a 404 error page. That's been true for several months. However, the link is still active on the readme page for those DOs, so maybe Daz is hoping to entice him to return.

  • xyer0xyer0 Posts: 6,333

    No Leroy 8 DIM download for me either.

  • TimbalesTimbales Posts: 2,423

    So, while I like Leroy, and the character Lewis, and the two included hairs, I can't say the rest of the bundle I like. The clothing doesn't have very much detail, and looks mostly the same. You've got two pants and shirts/ pants and sweater outfits, both of which are dforce and honestly, don't have the detail I would like to see, and making them dforce doesn't make them look better.

    I happen to prefer contemporary outfits, and wardrobe, so I am disappointed that they arent that realistic. We got better clothing with conforming stuff for Gen 3. 

    The fantasy clothing looks better, than the contemporary stuff hands down, so thats good for those who render it.

    Agreed. The shirt of today's Bundhosen outfit is really nice.
  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,729

    Toyen did a really good job on the look of Dion, although it's not technically part of the Leroy bundle. I will buy the bundhosen, Dion, and Dion hair and probably the train station too, as they are all pretty good, but next month, as StoneMason & Antfarm already got what I spend this month.laugh

  • I dunno, I think he's a great character if you want a slightly older African-American guy. He fits in nicely with Tristan in that 'suburban dad'-type of character, and any chance to support more non-white characters is good. 

    Can't say I'm a huge fan of the contemporary clothing, but the fantasy stuff does give the guys a chance to be a little more adventerous in sartorial choices IMHO. :V

  • MimicMollyMimicMolly Posts: 2,322
    I was hoping for a fantasy bundle or scifi bundle with Leroy 8. Can't say I'm disappointed, since I'm getting the base regardless.
  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675

    Well the South side of Chicago
    Is the baddest part of town
    And if you go down there
    You better just beware
    Of a man named Leroy Brown

    Now Leroy more than trouble
    You see he stand 'bout six foot four
    All the downtown ladies call him "Treetop Lover"
    All the men just call him "Sir"

    And it's bad, bad Leroy Brown
    The baddest man in the whole damned town
    Badder than old King Kong
    And meaner than a junkyard dog

  • WonderlandWonderland Posts: 7,133
    edited February 2020

    I always do women so it's fun to play with men once in awhile. (Oh god, out of context, that sounds like a whole other thing lol! ) I mean I usually create ART with female subjects lol! 

    Artistic render of  Terrell, Terry Hair, Dark Lore https://www.daz3d.com/terrell-hd-for-leroy-8https://www.daz3d.com/terry-hair-for-leroy-8https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-dark-lore-outfit-for-genesis-8-male-s

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  • If anyone bought the Bundhosen outfit, would you mind posting a render of the shirt? I like the shirt but I wouldn't have a use for the pants. So I'm wondering if the shirt would work with a different (more contemporary) pair of pants.

  • Phoenix1966Phoenix1966 Posts: 1,840

    If anyone bought the Bundhosen outfit, would you mind posting a render of the shirt? I like the shirt but I wouldn't have a use for the pants. So I'm wondering if the shirt would work with a different (more contemporary) pair of pants.

    I'd appreciate that as well. I'm not sure from the promos, but the buttons look like they're on the "wrong" side for a men's shirt. It looks really well-done, but these kinds of details matter to me.

  • barbultbarbult Posts: 26,226

    If anyone bought the Bundhosen outfit, would you mind posting a render of the shirt? I like the shirt but I wouldn't have a use for the pants. So I'm wondering if the shirt would work with a different (more contemporary) pair of pants.

    I'd appreciate that as well. I'm not sure from the promos, but the buttons look like they're on the "wrong" side for a men's shirt. It looks really well-done, but these kinds of details matter to me.

    It is a female closure (right over left) on that shirt, according to the promos. I don't own it to check. The waistband on the shirt is unusual, too. 

  • Phoenix1966Phoenix1966 Posts: 1,840

    @barbuit Thank you. I'm on a very small mobile device at the moment and wasn't sure. I appreciate it.

  • L'AdairL'Adair Posts: 9,479

    If anyone bought the Bundhosen outfit, would you mind posting a render of the shirt? I like the shirt but I wouldn't have a use for the pants. So I'm wondering if the shirt would work with a different (more contemporary) pair of pants.

    I'd appreciate that as well. I'm not sure from the promos, but the buttons look like they're on the "wrong" side for a men's shirt. It looks really well-done, but these kinds of details matter to me.

    I expect to buy both of the Esha/Riversoft Art Mirror products (G3 and G8) and use them to correct mistakes like that. (I'll buy them to mirror hair, but it's nice they can change up the shirts, too.)

  • XelloszXellosz Posts: 855
    edited February 2020

    The golf outfit style. Armpits, neck collisions XD

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  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 17,704
    edited February 2020

    For me the pants of the golf outfit are under modeled

    and looks like sweats.

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  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 17,704

    @barbuit Thank you. I'm on a very small mobile device at the moment and wasn't sure. I appreciate it.

    That's disappointing. I like the collar of that set.

  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 17,704
    L'Adair said:

    If anyone bought the Bundhosen outfit, would you mind posting a render of the shirt? I like the shirt but I wouldn't have a use for the pants. So I'm wondering if the shirt would work with a different (more contemporary) pair of pants.

    I'd appreciate that as well. I'm not sure from the promos, but the buttons look like they're on the "wrong" side for a men's shirt. It looks really well-done, but these kinds of details matter to me.

    I expect to buy both of the Esha/Riversoft Art Mirror products (G3 and G8) and use them to correct mistakes like that. (I'll buy them to mirror hair, but it's nice they can change up the shirts, too.)

    The product Testing team should be catching this error.

  • XelloszXellosz Posts: 855
    edited February 2020

    @barbuit Thank you. I'm on a very small mobile device at the moment and wasn't sure. I appreciate it.

    That's disappointing. I like the collar of that set.

    If you try to put dforce on it you might get something else, but atm it doesn't have Dforce nor shape adjusting.

    The collar has it's own surface and geometry so problems could be solved.

     

    The shoes of the set are interesting too :), try to look into it. It's not a problem and easy to solve, but why didn't they find it before it hit the market?

    What is a bit odd is the skin... the net of veins (?) are a bit to strong and make it hard to use it. 

     

    ps: Try that pose on any clothing it would have caused collision. 

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  • L'AdairL'Adair Posts: 9,479
    L'Adair said:

    If anyone bought the Bundhosen outfit, would you mind posting a render of the shirt? I like the shirt but I wouldn't have a use for the pants. So I'm wondering if the shirt would work with a different (more contemporary) pair of pants.

    I'd appreciate that as well. I'm not sure from the promos, but the buttons look like they're on the "wrong" side for a men's shirt. It looks really well-done, but these kinds of details matter to me.

    I expect to buy both of the Esha/Riversoft Art Mirror products (G3 and G8) and use them to correct mistakes like that. (I'll buy them to mirror hair, but it's nice they can change up the shirts, too.)

    The product Testing team should be catching this error.

    I don't disagree. But then, there are a lot of things they should catch and don't. I suspect they are overworked. Based on the volume of products being released, I think Daz should hire more people for testing product. Kudos to the PAs who use beta testers and don't rely on Daz to find all the issues.

  • MelissaGTMelissaGT Posts: 2,611

    For me the pants of the golf outfit are under modeled

    and looks like sweats.

    Non-saran wrap pants in general seem to have this issue...especially those made for men. They just don't seem to fit or move right at all...generally speaking. 

  • L'Adair said:
    L'Adair said:

    If anyone bought the Bundhosen outfit, would you mind posting a render of the shirt? I like the shirt but I wouldn't have a use for the pants. So I'm wondering if the shirt would work with a different (more contemporary) pair of pants.

    I'd appreciate that as well. I'm not sure from the promos, but the buttons look like they're on the "wrong" side for a men's shirt. It looks really well-done, but these kinds of details matter to me.

    I expect to buy both of the Esha/Riversoft Art Mirror products (G3 and G8) and use them to correct mistakes like that. (I'll buy them to mirror hair, but it's nice they can change up the shirts, too.)

    The product Testing team should be catching this error.

    I don't disagree. But then, there are a lot of things they should catch and don't. I suspect they are overworked. Based on the volume of products being released, I think Daz should hire more people for testing product. Kudos to the PAs who use beta testers and don't rely on Daz to find all the issues.

    It's also possible the team does not consider this an error. That becomes a different issue...
  • TimbalesTimbales Posts: 2,423
    L'Adair said:

    If anyone bought the Bundhosen outfit, would you mind posting a render of the shirt? I like the shirt but I wouldn't have a use for the pants. So I'm wondering if the shirt would work with a different (more contemporary) pair of pants.

    I'd appreciate that as well. I'm not sure from the promos, but the buttons look like they're on the "wrong" side for a men's shirt. It looks really well-done, but these kinds of details matter to me.

    I expect to buy both of the Esha/Riversoft Art Mirror products (G3 and G8) and use them to correct mistakes like that. (I'll buy them to mirror hair, but it's nice they can change up the shirts, too.)

    The product Testing team should be catching this error.

    I don't think real world accuracy is a factor when it comes to men's garments. The Casual Golf Outfit is a good example. That collar is just wrong. Maybe the character shops at the factory 'oops' store.
  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,729

    Does the shirt have the more traditional white & red gingham pattern too? Not that not would stop me from buying it. I take it a new traditional dirndl is coming too?

  • XelloszXellosz Posts: 855
    edited February 2020

    Cheking it from the other side the collar is warped but sitting on top of the clothes. Armpit is poke through, but that's because of the pose. ATH playing with the dforce if that would save this pose or not. 

    Forget the buttons on the neck and you will get a nice T-shirt  with dforce.  Probably the T-shirt should have been dforced by the start only problem is the buttons, but someone more experienced might be able to keep them too.

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  • JUJUJUJU Posts: 1,132
    empty said:
    Hera said:

    Remember my name - FAME

    Everyone born in the 70ies or earlier know what I mean :-)

    I was born in the 60's and don't have a clue what you mean... probably because I'm german and living in Germany.

    Leroy from the show Fame...either TV or Broadway. I remember him more from the TV show after Welcome Back Kotter. 

    I am German too and born at the beginning of the 70s.. I know the serial Fame and loved it. It was a famous serial here as well ;)

  • LucielLuciel Posts: 475
    Xellosz said:

    Forget the buttons on the neck and you will get a nice T-shirt  with dforce.  Probably the T-shirt should have been dforced by the start only problem is the buttons, but someone more experienced might be able to keep them too.

    The best way to do buttons in dforce is probably rigid follow nodes after detaching them as seperate meshes.

  • memcneil70memcneil70 Posts: 5,315

    I worked on https://www.daz3d.com/drannor-for-leroy-8 yesterday, played with the facepaints, put him in https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-dark-lore-outfit-for-genesis-8-male-s and https://www.daz3d.com/killmonger-hair-and-beard-for-genesis-3-and-8, then needed a chair to fit the facepaint, outfit and pose, and selected one, and found it belonged to https://www.daz3d.com/rog-medieval-fantasy-bedroom, perfect! But, the first render ended up with his elbow off the arm of the chair after 2 hours. Okay, reposition, had another light to warm it up, and this time, remember to close off those things not in the frame. Still almost 2 hours later, just before I was desparate for bed. Then it was too large to attach. So resized today. 

    Generally, I render contemporary or Sci-Fi with a 'normal' realistic angle, but playing with the facepaints included with Drannor started me on a voyage of discovery. My thanks to all of the PAs who made the products that gave me the tools to do this. I love Drannor.

    Mary 

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