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  • CortexCortex Posts: 111
    edited May 2018
    outrider42 said:

    We still have ZERO real Asian characters. Daz just had to push out yet another fairy before releasing Mei Lin or any other character of diversity. Yeah, so they released Darius and Monique, that doesn't give them brownie points to ignore releasing another minority for months on end.

    If you need an asian character for gen 8, this thread - https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/250251/kaylee-8  ; has a LARGE list of them about half way down on the first page.

    For what I am doing I need more fey characters than real world people, and I probably wont get Mei Lin 8 when she does eventually come out, but I respect that you may need her.

     

    I think Mika 8 is beautiful and I will definetly be getting her.

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  • FistyFisty Posts: 3,416
    sandman_max said:
    Could you you do a close-up head shot and side view with Mika 8 and MiKa 7?

    I would love to, but I don't have Mika 7 unfortunately.

  • barbultbarbult Posts: 26,181
    j cade said:
    HorusRa said:
    @IceDragonArt said:

    Just goes to show, people have different tastes.  I love her make up.

     

    I think there must be a misunderstanding concerning what Nosiferret and I both mentioned. The weird makeup is GREAT. We were both stating that daz should also include normal makep as well, that way if one wants to use the skin for a normal girl next door type the option is there. Same with lilith, I was drawn to her because of her concept and I want her to have her weird makeup. However, thete have been times whete I wanted to use her in a non-succubus way with regular makeup, but daz did not include the option. I like mikas makeup, but they should at least include several regular makeups as well so we are not held to use the default everytime.

     

    One nice thing about makeup as a diffuse overlay is you can geneally turn it down (probably not the super giant black one but you'd be surprised). Below is a demo with monique makeup full strength and makeup toned down a hair

     

    .... also you can totally take the makeup from one character and stick it on another... the material presets aren't set up nicely to do this properly, sadly, but you can load them manually and its great.

    Great tips, thank you.
  • ThorneThorne Posts: 178
    edited May 2018

    Mika

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  • 3Diva3Diva Posts: 11,970
    edited May 2018
    sandman_max said:
    Fisty said:
    hyteckit said:

    Can you do one of Teen Josie 7 next to Mika 8? I think Teen Josie 7 looks a lot like Mika 8.

    Sure =)

     

    Could you you do a close-up head shot and side view with Mika 8 and MiKa 7?

     

    Mika 7 (left) and Mika 8 (right) "out of the box" (but with Mika 8's "Translucency Low" setting (click to enlarge):

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  • ALLIEKATBLUEALLIEKATBLUE Posts: 2,983
    Thorne said:

    Mika

    @Thorne, which Mika is this?  She's a doll

  • Worlds_EdgeWorlds_Edge Posts: 2,153
    Divamakeup said:
    Worlds_Edge said:

    @jcade  how do you load them manually?

    First, if you have Aiko 8, Monique 8, or Edie 8 - you can use any of their makeup "out of the box" on any G3 or G8 character. 

    Most of the other G8F characters load the face maps with the makeup - but again, their makeup can be manually added to a character.

    To manually change the makeup you'd have to go into the Surfaces tab and change the makeup maps manually (navigate to the character folder who's makeup you want to use and load them in the surfaces tab - replacing the other makeup maps with the ones you want to use). 

    Thanks Diva, I didn't know you could do that in the surfaces map.  So far I'd only swapped make up with one click swapping - though it does not work on everything, as you note.

  • IceDragonArtIceDragonArt Posts: 12,741
    hyteckit said:
    nicstt said:
    hyteckit said:
    nicstt said:
    hyteckit said:
    Fisty said:
    hyteckit said:

    Can you do one of Teen Josie 7 next to Mika 8? I think Teen Josie 7 looks a lot like Mika 8.

    Sure =)

     

    Thanks a bunch. Just as i suspected. Teen Josie 7 and Mika 8 as basically the same with small morph differences.

    The majority of characters vary only in their morphs and textures... Surprising really!

    True, but the difference between Mika 8 and Teen Josie 7 are so minor, the look almost the same.

    There are similarities, I'll grant you, but they don't look almost the same to me. I'm nowhere near familiar with either to tell them apart when separate (well other than their eye size is an obvious give-away). I suppose the problem is that TJ8 (and earlier) looks stylised, as no teen has eyes so large; hell no child has eyes that large proportianally.

    Their eyes looks almost identical. Maybe it's the huge eyelashes and makeup throwing you off with the Mika 8. I don't have the same angle for both of their faces, but this is the best I can do comparing faces and eyes. I superimpose their images.

    Take a look at ALL of Thorne's models.  Their eyes all look like this, its very much part of his theme with his characters.  Every single one of them has huge eyes and thick lashes.  All the way back to his V4 models.  Its one of my favorite things about his models.

  • FistyFisty Posts: 3,416

    Thorne is a woman  =)

  • JOdelJOdel Posts: 6,308

    Try; all the way back to gen2 characters. There are a number of her characters for the Mil Girls still in the store. Mostly in the PC collection. Those "Anime-scaled (although not styled) eyes" predated Aiko3.

    Although Thorne and Aiko3 were a perfect match.

  • LosingSignalLosingSignal Posts: 409
    edited May 2018

    Huzzah!  Its the weekend and I finally get to sit down and play with Mika.  So I lay out the character; add the hair, clothes, and anatomy; put in a piece of environment, set to a huge scale to fit the tiny character and reposition it; fiddle with the HDRI settings until I get a decent light on the character; run through some test renders; finally get everything set up the way I want and make it halfway through the render... and Daz crashes.  And oh look!  I didn't bother to save the scene before the render.  &#$@....  Wouldn't have been so cheesed off if I wasn't rendering on an old laptop with Intel graphics that makes Iray renders take 5 hours.  Maybe I should lay off the Daz purchases for a while and save my pennies for a decent computer...

    Anywho...  Straight Mika 8 render using stock textures, Dewdrop outfit, Fantastical Sprite Wings, Bronwyn Hair, and OnFleek Eyebrows and Eyelashes.  I tweeked the texture for the lips to reduce the Glossy Reflectivity, as they came out silver in the test renders.  Overall, kind of like the character.  I don't much with fairy characters, so I'm not jumping up and down over her, but the skin texture and makeup actually works pretty well.  There looks to be some graininess to the skin, but I'm pretty sure that's my lighting or render settings, like I need a higher enviroment resolution or something.

     

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  • CortexCortex Posts: 111
    Thorne said:

    Mika

    She's beautiful. I just picked up the pro bundle this morning :) Thankyou so much for your work.

    Now the obligatory daz question - what hair is that.

  • TaozTaoz Posts: 10,237
    Cortex said:
    Thorne said:

    Mika

    She's beautiful. I just picked up the pro bundle this morning :) Thankyou so much for your work.

    Now the obligatory daz question - what hair is that.

    Typical OOT style - I'd bet on this one:

    https://www.daz3d.com/liv-hair-for-genesis-3-female-s-and-genesis-8-female-s

  • ColinFrenchColinFrench Posts: 649
    Thorne said:

    Mika

    Lovely! The eyebrows appear significantly different than the standard Mika 8. Is this a specific add-on character or did you use something else?

  • nicsttnicstt Posts: 11,715
    Thorne said:

    Mika

    Very beautiful.

    I think the style that Thorne offers really needs the Elf ears, as without it, they look like weird humans. They look very natural with the elf ears; the ears also mitigate (to an extent) that young look as they become something alien.

  • nicsttnicstt Posts: 11,715
    edited May 2018
    hyteckit said:
    nicstt said:
    hyteckit said:
    nicstt said:
    hyteckit said:
    Fisty said:
    hyteckit said:

    Can you do one of Teen Josie 7 next to Mika 8? I think Teen Josie 7 looks a lot like Mika 8.

    Sure =)

     

    Thanks a bunch. Just as i suspected. Teen Josie 7 and Mika 8 as basically the same with small morph differences.

    The majority of characters vary only in their morphs and textures... Surprising really!

    True, but the difference between Mika 8 and Teen Josie 7 are so minor, the look almost the same.

    There are similarities, I'll grant you, but they don't look almost the same to me. I'm nowhere near familiar with either to tell them apart when separate (well other than their eye size is an obvious give-away). I suppose the problem is that TJ8 (and earlier) looks stylised, as no teen has eyes so large; hell no child has eyes that large proportianally.

    Their eyes looks almost identical. Maybe it's the huge eyelashes and makeup throwing you off with the Mika 8. I don't have the same angle for both of their faces, but this is the best I can do comparing faces and eyes. I superimpose their images.

    Good point; it does make some difference.

    Their face shapes are similar, but it is Thorne's style; it seems that cute is very popular. I like cute as much as anyone (still need some cute house cats), but also welcomed the Ollie and Edie.

    People's face shapes are often similar; it is our own 'skin-textures' that provide a good deal of the difference in many cases. And sometimes textures are similar and the under-lining bone structure provide more of the differences.

    We can't swap the textures of folks (yet) to compare.

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  • WonderlandWonderland Posts: 7,133
    Thorne said:

    Mika

    O

    Is that Mika 8???? She looks so adorable and very different from the promos and posted renders here...

  • ThorneThorne Posts: 178
    edited May 2018

    Hi, thanks for the nice comments :)  Yes that image is Mika 8, one of my proof of concept renders. The texture used in that image is one of my own, but I did not make the texture maps that come with Mika 8. 

    Oh and yes the hair is Liv hair by OutOfTouch. :)

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  • sandmanmaxsandmanmax Posts: 992
    Divamakeup said:
    sandman_max said:
    Fisty said:
    hyteckit said:

    Can you do one of Teen Josie 7 next to Mika 8? I think Teen Josie 7 looks a lot like Mika 8.

    Sure =)

     

     

     

    Could you you do a close-up head shot and side view with Mika 8 and MiKa 7?

     

    Mika 7 (left) and Mika 8 (right) "out of the box" (but with Mika 8's "Translucency Low" setting (click to enlarge):

    Thanks Diva.  This helps a lot.

  • IceDragonArtIceDragonArt Posts: 12,741
    Fisty said:

    Thorne is a woman  =)

    Well,  I had a 50/50 shot at getting it right lol.

  • 3Diva3Diva Posts: 11,970
    IceDragonArt said:
    Fisty said:

    Thorne is a woman  =)

    Well,  I had a 50/50 shot at getting it right lol.

    Personally (and this is just me), when it comes to Daz PAs, I've learned to err on the side of woman. lol Don't get me wrong, there are a lot of male PAs, but MANY are women too. And if I "assume woman" it makes up a teeny tiny bit for the decades of being online and people assuming I'm male (particularly in the online gaming community). lol In a perfect world we'd have perfect gender-neutral terms to call people until we know for sure, but this world is far from perfect. :P

  • brimstoneomegabrimstoneomega Posts: 343

    I for one really like her! She has an ethereal beauty to her, and she'll be great fun for a sorceress or fairy. Or even a sorcerous fairy. I do agree that her base makeup is a bit over the top, but that has it's places as well, and as other's have said you can use the makeup from other characters on her. I used one of the makeups from Aiko 8 on her here.

     

     

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    Here's a better one with far less clipping going on, lol. I really need to learn to not trust the normal viewport with out checking it over in iRay. I swear that thing lies to me, I'm fairly certain the clothes under that dress wasn't visible till I rendered it out.

     

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  • GreymomGreymom Posts: 1,139
    Cortex said:
    Thorne said:

    Mika

    She's beautiful. I just picked up the pro bundle this morning :) Thankyou so much for your work.

    Now the obligatory daz question - what hair is that.

    Beautiful character!  Glad I picked up the Pro Bundle.

  • L'AdairL'Adair Posts: 9,479

    With all this talk about "over the top" makeup for Mika 8, I think it may be time to resurrect an old thread on "stealing" makeup. While it's true there are many G8F figures/characters with LIE or Diffuse Layer makeup now that can be used interchangably, there are still many that use face texture maps for the makeup options. And using this technique, you can also use makeup from any of the G3 base females on your G8 and vice-versa.

    I've even used the Transfer Map Utility converting G2F face textures to a G3 template first to convert G2 makeup for use on G3. (I used the "Genesis 2 Female" UV provided by Cayman Studio's Legacy UVs product for G2F on G3F.)

  • 3Diva3Diva Posts: 11,970
    edited May 2018
    L'Adair said:

    With all this talk about "over the top" makeup for Mika 8, I think it may be time to resurrect an old thread on "stealing" makeup. While it's true there are many G8F figures/characters with LIE or Diffuse Layer makeup now that can be used interchangably, there are still many that use face texture maps for the makeup options. And using this technique, you can also use makeup from any of the G3 base females on your G8 and vice-versa.

    I've even used the Transfer Map Utility converting G2F face textures to a G3 template first to convert G2 makeup for use on G3. (I used the "Genesis 2 Female" UV provided by Cayman Studio's Legacy UVs product for G2F on G3F.)

    With the Diffuse Overlay layers, it's now MUCH easier to "steal" makeup. No need to transfer maps. Just load a Diffuse Overlay makeup onto your character and then change the "Diffuse Overlay Color" image to a face texture that has the makeup you want to use. 

    If you have Aiko 8, Edie 8, or Monique 8 you can load their makeup onto any G3 or G8 character - you can then switch out the Diffuse Overlay Color map for any face map with makeup on it. It also tends to work better if you switch the white color out for a medium gray color:

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  • GreymomGreymom Posts: 1,139
    Divamakeup said:
    L'Adair said:

    With all this talk about "over the top" makeup for Mika 8, I think it may be time to resurrect an old thread on "stealing" makeup. While it's true there are many G8F figures/characters with LIE or Diffuse Layer makeup now that can be used interchangably, there are still many that use face texture maps for the makeup options. And using this technique, you can also use makeup from any of the G3 base females on your G8 and vice-versa.

    I've even used the Transfer Map Utility converting G2F face textures to a G3 template first to convert G2 makeup for use on G3. (I used the "Genesis 2 Female" UV provided by Cayman Studio's Legacy UVs product for G2F on G3F.)

    With the Diffuse Overlay layers, it's now MUCH easier to "steal" makeup. No need to transfer maps. Just load a Diffuse Overlay makeup onto your character and then change the "Diffuse Overlay Color" image to a face texture that has the makeup you want to use. 

    If you have Aiko 8, Edie 8, or Monique 8 you can load their makeup onto any G3 or G8 character - you can then switch out the Diffuse Overlay Color map for any face map with makeup on it. It also tends to work better if you switch the white color out for a medium gray color:

    Great tip - thanks!!

  • CrescentCrescent Posts: 333

    If Mika had been released with that proof-of-concept texture I'd have bought her in a heart beat.  Any possibility of that skin being released?

  • rayglendenningrayglendenning Posts: 137
    dreamfarmer said:

    Bobby's short for Roberta, isn't it?

     

    Yes, o

    Crescent said:

    If Mika had been released with that proof-of-concept texture I'd have bought her in a heart beat.  Any possibility of that skin being released?

    Do you have a link?
  • ThorneThorne Posts: 178
    Crescent said:

    If Mika had been released with that proof-of-concept texture I'd have bought her in a heart beat.  Any possibility of that skin being released?

     

    I believe it's basically the same skin that is on my latest release, Lara, with different eyebrows.

    BTW I just wanted to say I love these artistic renders :)

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