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  • 3Diva3Diva Posts: 11,970
    lx said:
    divamakeup said:
    lx said:
    divamakeup said:
    mtl1 said:

    I'm kind of teetering on Sunny 7. There's nothing explicitly *special* about the figure and the skin textures aren't appealing to me. For reference, I have Vic 7, Karen 7, Arabella 7, Olympia 7, Aiko 7, and Star 7. I suppose she'll fit the petite look, but size usually doesn't show up as a significant factor in my renders.

    divamakeup said:
    mtl1 said:

    Weird. I randomly happened onto this: The PA Sharktooth is actually on sale as a featured PA, as he/she put out the Tween Julie expressions product... but the PA isn't actually listed as a featured PA on the sale page.

     

    divamakeup said:
    mtl1 said:

    Hm. I'm not sure whether to go through with my purchase. It's not a large one by any means, but I don't *need* any of it. frown

    I didn't buy anything. I REALLY wanted the Gen 3 Iconic Shapes for Genesis and being able to get that for $10 sounded "ok" -not great but ok. But then I realized that I was only getting it to be able to wear V3 and A3 clothes on the newer figures -and since I don't use Genesis 1 I'd have to use the clone to get the A3 and V3 clothes to G1, then autofit it to G2F, then autofit it to G3F ...and that sounds like a pain in the bottom to me (not to mention you'd probably be getting a lot of distortion of the clothes by the time it gets autofited three times. lol So I decided to pass on the sale since that's the only thing I really wanted.

    I'm hoping there is a similar product (a V3 and A3 clone) for either G2F or G3F. 

    From my own experiences, exporting as OBJ and re-importing it actually fits MUCH better than those iconic shapes. :) So you saved money!!

    Whao! Ok, what now? Is there a tutorial on that?

    I feel like I should get a leg up on posting my tutorials, but I have so many side projects on the go... :)

    I'd love a tutorial on that! (for what it's worth - which probably isn't much. lol) :)

    Export > Wavefront / OBJ

    Then I believe you want settings something like this: http://www.daz3d.com/forums/uploads/FileUpload/de/11e176e19ed8534169b4847c5c4666.jpg

    Load figure you want, Import > pick your file, then with it selected go to Edit > Transfer Utility. Tell it to copy FROM the figure you've loaded, TO the clothing object you imported.

    Might need to readd textures and things.

    There might be a better way someone can be bothered doing but there's my 2 minute tutorial~

    Hmm I've tried it three times and I can't seam to get it to work. 

    I just tried it and it worked in terms of exporting the clothing item as an object and then fitting it to the then loaded figure in terms of moving appropriately, but it sooo didn't "fit" in terms of changing shape to the body (which should have been obvious in retrospect.) You'll have to wait for whoever it was' actual advice on how they do it I'm afraid.

    Is that where you're getting stuck? Or somewhere earlier? Figuring out export settings took me awhile when I first started, but the ones in the screenshot should have worked (just be aware that it'll export all visible items together so you want to do them one by one, hiding other things you don't want) and as long as the source is the figure and target the clothing object it should make it into clothing fine without any other settings, which you can then save. (Doesn't fix adjusting the clothing to actually fit the G3F shape though.)

    Yeah the export and import seams to work fine, but it just doesn't fit onto the figure. :)

  • lx_2807502lx_2807502 Posts: 2,996
    divamakeup said:
    lx said:
    divamakeup said:
    lx said:
    divamakeup said:
    mtl1 said:

    I'm kind of teetering on Sunny 7. There's nothing explicitly *special* about the figure and the skin textures aren't appealing to me. For reference, I have Vic 7, Karen 7, Arabella 7, Olympia 7, Aiko 7, and Star 7. I suppose she'll fit the petite look, but size usually doesn't show up as a significant factor in my renders.

    divamakeup said:
    mtl1 said:

    Weird. I randomly happened onto this: The PA Sharktooth is actually on sale as a featured PA, as he/she put out the Tween Julie expressions product... but the PA isn't actually listed as a featured PA on the sale page.

     

    divamakeup said:
    mtl1 said:

    Hm. I'm not sure whether to go through with my purchase. It's not a large one by any means, but I don't *need* any of it. frown

    I didn't buy anything. I REALLY wanted the Gen 3 Iconic Shapes for Genesis and being able to get that for $10 sounded "ok" -not great but ok. But then I realized that I was only getting it to be able to wear V3 and A3 clothes on the newer figures -and since I don't use Genesis 1 I'd have to use the clone to get the A3 and V3 clothes to G1, then autofit it to G2F, then autofit it to G3F ...and that sounds like a pain in the bottom to me (not to mention you'd probably be getting a lot of distortion of the clothes by the time it gets autofited three times. lol So I decided to pass on the sale since that's the only thing I really wanted.

    I'm hoping there is a similar product (a V3 and A3 clone) for either G2F or G3F. 

    From my own experiences, exporting as OBJ and re-importing it actually fits MUCH better than those iconic shapes. :) So you saved money!!

    Whao! Ok, what now? Is there a tutorial on that?

    I feel like I should get a leg up on posting my tutorials, but I have so many side projects on the go... :)

    I'd love a tutorial on that! (for what it's worth - which probably isn't much. lol) :)

    Export > Wavefront / OBJ

    Then I believe you want settings something like this: http://www.daz3d.com/forums/uploads/FileUpload/de/11e176e19ed8534169b4847c5c4666.jpg

    Load figure you want, Import > pick your file, then with it selected go to Edit > Transfer Utility. Tell it to copy FROM the figure you've loaded, TO the clothing object you imported.

    Might need to readd textures and things.

    There might be a better way someone can be bothered doing but there's my 2 minute tutorial~

    Hmm I've tried it three times and I can't seam to get it to work. 

    I just tried it and it worked in terms of exporting the clothing item as an object and then fitting it to the then loaded figure in terms of moving appropriately, but it sooo didn't "fit" in terms of changing shape to the body (which should have been obvious in retrospect.) You'll have to wait for whoever it was' actual advice on how they do it I'm afraid.

    Is that where you're getting stuck? Or somewhere earlier? Figuring out export settings took me awhile when I first started, but the ones in the screenshot should have worked (just be aware that it'll export all visible items together so you want to do them one by one, hiding other things you don't want) and as long as the source is the figure and target the clothing object it should make it into clothing fine without any other settings, which you can then save. (Doesn't fix adjusting the clothing to actually fit the G3F shape though.)

    Yeah the export and import seams to work fine, but it just doesn't fit onto the figure. :)

    Yeahhhh I forgot about that step. Normally you'd manually adjust it in a modelling program to make it fit the figure - not sure what others are doing.

  • RenomistaRenomista Posts: 921
    edited September 2016
    lx said:
    Renomista said:

     

    The problem isn't whether they are nice: you like the Zeddicuss ones, that's great - now how are the other two PAs meant to feel? It just feels like a really weird marketing choice to put them all in at once.

    Yes you are right about that. It significantly lowers the chances that I het more than one.

    Post edited by Renomista on
  • TaozTaoz Posts: 10,232
    edited September 2016

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    lx said:
    Renomista said:

    Yeah, thought then same about the Nano Fast Grab and the Expressions Flood.

    But to be fair, one of the Expression Sets is really nice (The Zeddicuss one) and i probably get it in the next 2 days..

    There is nice stuff in todays PC+ relase though.

    The problem isn't whether they are nice: you like the Zeddicuss ones, that's great - now how are the other two PAs meant to feel? It just feels like a really weird marketing choice to put them all in at once.

    But seen from a customer's point of view I'd say it's good. Say they launch one package today and you think they're good, so you buy them. Then tomorrow comes a new package you like better, so you regret your first purchase. You can return the first one of course, but that just creates more work for customer service.

    I agree the artists may not like it, but I'd put the blame on the concept in today's business world called "competition". No matter how you look at it, artists do compete with each other one way or another under the current conditions.

    Post edited by Taoz on
  • lx_2807502lx_2807502 Posts: 2,996
    Taozen said:

    .

    lx said:
    Renomista said:

    Yeah, thought then same about the Nano Fast Grab and the Expressions Flood.

    But to be fair, one of the Expression Sets is really nice (The Zeddicuss one) and i probably get it in the next 2 days..

    There is nice stuff in todays PC+ relase though.

    The problem isn't whether they are nice: you like the Zeddicuss ones, that's great - now how are the other two PAs meant to feel? It just feels like a really weird marketing choice to put them all in at once.

    But seen from a customer's point of view I'd say it's good. Say they launch one package today and you think they're good, so you buy them. Then tomorrow comes a new package you like better, so you regret your first purchase. You can return the first one of course, but that just creates more work for customer service.

    I agree the artists may not like it, but I'd put the blame on the concept in today's business world called "competition". No matter how you look at it, artists do compete with each other one way or another under the current conditions.

    That's a good point; we have plenty of examples of nice deals that immediately get replaced with better deals a day after which is basically the same thing. I guess you can't really win.

  • mtl1mtl1 Posts: 1,508
    edited September 2016
    lx said:
    divamakeup said:
    mtl1 said:

    I'm kind of teetering on Sunny 7. There's nothing explicitly *special* about the figure and the skin textures aren't appealing to me. For reference, I have Vic 7, Karen 7, Arabella 7, Olympia 7, Aiko 7, and Star 7. I suppose she'll fit the petite look, but size usually doesn't show up as a significant factor in my renders.

    divamakeup said:
    mtl1 said:

    Weird. I randomly happened onto this: The PA Sharktooth is actually on sale as a featured PA, as he/she put out the Tween Julie expressions product... but the PA isn't actually listed as a featured PA on the sale page.

     

    divamakeup said:
    mtl1 said:

    Hm. I'm not sure whether to go through with my purchase. It's not a large one by any means, but I don't *need* any of it. frown

    I didn't buy anything. I REALLY wanted the Gen 3 Iconic Shapes for Genesis and being able to get that for $10 sounded "ok" -not great but ok. But then I realized that I was only getting it to be able to wear V3 and A3 clothes on the newer figures -and since I don't use Genesis 1 I'd have to use the clone to get the A3 and V3 clothes to G1, then autofit it to G2F, then autofit it to G3F ...and that sounds like a pain in the bottom to me (not to mention you'd probably be getting a lot of distortion of the clothes by the time it gets autofited three times. lol So I decided to pass on the sale since that's the only thing I really wanted.

    I'm hoping there is a similar product (a V3 and A3 clone) for either G2F or G3F. 

    From my own experiences, exporting as OBJ and re-importing it actually fits MUCH better than those iconic shapes. :) So you saved money!!

    Whao! Ok, what now? Is there a tutorial on that?

    I feel like I should get a leg up on posting my tutorials, but I have so many side projects on the go... :)

    I'd love a tutorial on that! (for what it's worth - which probably isn't much. lol) :)

    Export > Wavefront / OBJ

    Then I believe you want settings something like this: http://www.daz3d.com/forums/uploads/FileUpload/de/11e176e19ed8534169b4847c5c4666.jpg

    Load figure you want, Import > pick your file, then with it selected go to Edit > Transfer Utility. Tell it to copy FROM the figure you've loaded, TO the clothing object you imported.

    Might need to readd textures and things.

    There might be a better way someone can be bothered doing but there's my 2 minute tutorial~

    I actually find that I don't need to import using the transfer utility :) I'll try to upload a document to here and elsewhere something by the end of this week; I have a bunch of marking coming up so I want to get that out of the way first.

    edit: As a side note, are we ever going to get some of the rarer PAs on sale? I haven't seen Billy-T or Uzilite yet.

    Post edited by mtl1 on
  • HavosHavos Posts: 5,573
    mtl1 said:
    lx said:
    divamakeup said:
    mtl1 said:

    I'm kind of teetering on Sunny 7. There's nothing explicitly *special* about the figure and the skin textures aren't appealing to me. For reference, I have Vic 7, Karen 7, Arabella 7, Olympia 7, Aiko 7, and Star 7. I suppose she'll fit the petite look, but size usually doesn't show up as a significant factor in my renders.

    divamakeup said:
    mtl1 said:

    Weird. I randomly happened onto this: The PA Sharktooth is actually on sale as a featured PA, as he/she put out the Tween Julie expressions product... but the PA isn't actually listed as a featured PA on the sale page.

     

    divamakeup said:
    mtl1 said:

    Hm. I'm not sure whether to go through with my purchase. It's not a large one by any means, but I don't *need* any of it. frown

    I didn't buy anything. I REALLY wanted the Gen 3 Iconic Shapes for Genesis and being able to get that for $10 sounded "ok" -not great but ok. But then I realized that I was only getting it to be able to wear V3 and A3 clothes on the newer figures -and since I don't use Genesis 1 I'd have to use the clone to get the A3 and V3 clothes to G1, then autofit it to G2F, then autofit it to G3F ...and that sounds like a pain in the bottom to me (not to mention you'd probably be getting a lot of distortion of the clothes by the time it gets autofited three times. lol So I decided to pass on the sale since that's the only thing I really wanted.

    I'm hoping there is a similar product (a V3 and A3 clone) for either G2F or G3F. 

    From my own experiences, exporting as OBJ and re-importing it actually fits MUCH better than those iconic shapes. :) So you saved money!!

    Whao! Ok, what now? Is there a tutorial on that?

    I feel like I should get a leg up on posting my tutorials, but I have so many side projects on the go... :)

    I'd love a tutorial on that! (for what it's worth - which probably isn't much. lol) :)

    Export > Wavefront / OBJ

    Then I believe you want settings something like this: http://www.daz3d.com/forums/uploads/FileUpload/de/11e176e19ed8534169b4847c5c4666.jpg

    Load figure you want, Import > pick your file, then with it selected go to Edit > Transfer Utility. Tell it to copy FROM the figure you've loaded, TO the clothing object you imported.

    Might need to readd textures and things.

    There might be a better way someone can be bothered doing but there's my 2 minute tutorial~

    I actually find that I don't need to import using the transfer utility :) I'll try to upload a document to here and elsewhere something by the end of this week; I have a bunch of marking coming up so I want to get that out of the way first.

    edit: As a side note, are we ever going to get some of the rarer PAs on sale? I haven't seen Billy-T or Uzilite yet.

    PAs that do not release any new items during the PA sale will only go on sale during the handful (1-2) of days when all PAs are on sale. These sometimes occur at the center of the sale, and again at the end, but nothing is guaranteed. I believe Billy-T has not released anything new (at this store) for many years, so is likely to be one of the PAs that are only on sale during the everything on sale period.

  • donovancolbertdonovancolbert Posts: 1,421

    Akio 3 seems like she should be cheaper. I've got a bunch of freebie stuff for A3, all categorized, that I downloaded before I understood the different characters and generations. I don't know that I'll ever use Akio 3, but I convinced myself to use the PC coupon to get it down to a buck and change.

    ​Then, after I completed my purchase, I saw the Pool Deck free with purchase thread... *sigh*...  You've got to get everything lined up just right with DAZ purchases before you pull the trigger.

     

  • mambanegramambanegra Posts: 594

    I don't see the pool deck you are talking about, but if it is free with purchase and you made the purchase on the same day as you saw it, I bet you can ask for it to be added to your account via a ticket. 

    Was this added with the new PC items? 

  • UthgardUthgard Posts: 878
    edited September 2016

    If you are in the Platinum Club (which, given that you mentioned using the coupon, you should be) you don't need a purchase to get the Pool Deck free. The weekly freebies (without purchase) are one of the perks.

    Edit: Kerya, is there a way to have the pillows not deflate without having the complete Dynamic Control plugin? I remember when I finally got to try the product and I was sorely disappointed, it seemed like it was completely useless without something that wasn't listed as a requirement.

    Post edited by Uthgard on
  • mambanegramambanegra Posts: 594
    Uthgard said:

    If you are in the Platinum Club (which, given that you mentioned using the coupon, you should be) you don't need a purchase to get the Pool Deck free. The weekly freebies (without purchase) are one of the perks.

    So weird. I see this mentioned in the newsletter, but it isn't showing up for me under the recent listings. Is this normal for the weekly freebie? If so, is there a way to find it without having to remember to look at Tuesday's email? I don't generally read them top to bottom. 

  • pdspds Posts: 593
    divamakeup said:
    Wonderland said:
    divamakeup said:
    Wonderland said:

    After creating your categories comes the FUN PART - going through your "My Library" and "Poser Formats" and all your folders and seeing what all you have and organizing it into your categories. :) To organize single items you can right click the item's icon and choose "Categorize" and put a check mark by the folder or sub-folder that you want to put it in. To categorize an entire folder's content just right click the folder and choose "Create a Category from >> Selected Folder & Sub-Folders". 

    So, I'm woefully behind on getting my content better organized, partly because I didn't know how I wanted it categorized early on, and more recently because with the amount of content I now have, I didn't want to screw things up by doing it incorrectly and breaking something.

    I've taken the approach you described and set up a folder hierarchy that works for me, but before I go all gangbusters on my content I'd like to ask a few clarifying questions, if I may:

    Does categorizing my content the way you describe actually move it on disk, or does this method just change file paths/pointers?

    Most content has more than one file associated with it (geometry, textures, lights, cameras, materials, etc.). Does moving a single file create a problem? Ideally, I think I'd prefer to recategorize my content based on product so everything "stays together", but then if I want something dual-categorized, what happens then? I know how to put a single item into multiple categories, but does doing that break the paradigm of categorizing the product as a whole?

    Can I back up my custom categories (if so, how)?

    Can I port my custom categories to my different computers so I don't have to recreate them? If so, does it matter if the different computers are running different operating systems (Win7 and Mac OS X)?

  • 3Diva3Diva Posts: 11,970
    edited September 2016
    pds said:
    divamakeup said:
    Wonderland said:
    divamakeup said:
    Wonderland said:

    After creating your categories comes the FUN PART - going through your "My Library" and "Poser Formats" and all your folders and seeing what all you have and organizing it into your categories. :) To organize single items you can right click the item's icon and choose "Categorize" and put a check mark by the folder or sub-folder that you want to put it in. To categorize an entire folder's content just right click the folder and choose "Create a Category from >> Selected Folder & Sub-Folders". 

    So, I'm woefully behind on getting my content better organized, partly because I didn't know how I wanted it categorized early on, and more recently because with the amount of content I now have, I didn't want to screw things up by doing it incorrectly and breaking something.

    I've taken the approach you described and set up a folder hierarchy that works for me, but before I go all gangbusters on my content I'd like to ask a few clarifying questions, if I may:

    Does categorizing my content the way you describe actually move it on disk, or does this method just change file paths/pointers?

    Most content has more than one file associated with it (geometry, textures, lights, cameras, materials, etc.). Does moving a single file create a problem? Ideally, I think I'd prefer to recategorize my content based on product so everything "stays together", but then if I want something dual-categorized, what happens then? I know how to put a single item into multiple categories, but does doing that break the paradigm of categorizing the product as a whole?

    Can I back up my custom categories (if so, how)?

    Can I port my custom categories to my different computers so I don't have to recreate them? If so, does it matter if the different computers are running different operating systems (Win7 and Mac OS X)?

    Hmmm I might be too much of a newbie to answer these - but I'll answer to the best of my ability. If anyone else has any better or more accurate information, please feel free to jump in. :) I feel weird giving advice when I'm so new to Daz - but I'll do my best! 

    "Does categorizing my content the way you describe actually move it on disk"

    I'm pretty sure it doesn't change where the files are (I've checked several of the ones I have categorized and it seams to keep them in the same place in the files), it only gives you another place to find them in your library (pretty much just copies the icon and puts the copy in a place you find more helpful - like creating a shortcut, I believe). 

    "Does moving a single file create a problem?"

    Categorizing a single file/icon doesn't create any issues - at least it never has for me, and I've categorized nearly all of my content - purchased and freebies. 

    "if I want something dual-categorized, what happens then?"

    Nothing, you just have an additional place to find it. For instance, I have a product file that contains both weapons and poses, that file I've categorized in both my "props >> weapons" category as well as my "poses >> G3F poses" category. 

    "Can I back up my custom categories (if so, how)?"

    I'm not sure but I THINK that backing up your User Data will save your custom categories (again, I'm not positive as I've not tested it). 

    "Can I port my custom categories to my different computers so I don't have to recreate them?"

    I don't know, I'm too much of a newbie to know the answer. I'm sorry. :) I've only been working with Daz Studio for about 5-6 months so I still have a lot to learn. :)

     

    Post edited by 3Diva on
  • lx_2807502lx_2807502 Posts: 2,996
    mambanegra said:
    Uthgard said:

    If you are in the Platinum Club (which, given that you mentioned using the coupon, you should be) you don't need a purchase to get the Pool Deck free. The weekly freebies (without purchase) are one of the perks.

    So weird. I see this mentioned in the newsletter, but it isn't showing up for me under the recent listings. Is this normal for the weekly freebie? If so, is there a way to find it without having to remember to look at Tuesday's email? I don't generally read them top to bottom. 

    I had this problem too - had to use the newsletter to get the item. Normally they show up in new products, so I assume this one is just bugged.

  • lx_2807502lx_2807502 Posts: 2,996
    mtl1 said:
    lx said:
    divamakeup said:
    mtl1 said:

    I'm kind of teetering on Sunny 7. There's nothing explicitly *special* about the figure and the skin textures aren't appealing to me. For reference, I have Vic 7, Karen 7, Arabella 7, Olympia 7, Aiko 7, and Star 7. I suppose she'll fit the petite look, but size usually doesn't show up as a significant factor in my renders.

    divamakeup said:
    mtl1 said:

    Weird. I randomly happened onto this: The PA Sharktooth is actually on sale as a featured PA, as he/she put out the Tween Julie expressions product... but the PA isn't actually listed as a featured PA on the sale page.

     

    divamakeup said:
    mtl1 said:

    Hm. I'm not sure whether to go through with my purchase. It's not a large one by any means, but I don't *need* any of it. frown

    I didn't buy anything. I REALLY wanted the Gen 3 Iconic Shapes for Genesis and being able to get that for $10 sounded "ok" -not great but ok. But then I realized that I was only getting it to be able to wear V3 and A3 clothes on the newer figures -and since I don't use Genesis 1 I'd have to use the clone to get the A3 and V3 clothes to G1, then autofit it to G2F, then autofit it to G3F ...and that sounds like a pain in the bottom to me (not to mention you'd probably be getting a lot of distortion of the clothes by the time it gets autofited three times. lol So I decided to pass on the sale since that's the only thing I really wanted.

    I'm hoping there is a similar product (a V3 and A3 clone) for either G2F or G3F. 

    From my own experiences, exporting as OBJ and re-importing it actually fits MUCH better than those iconic shapes. :) So you saved money!!

    Whao! Ok, what now? Is there a tutorial on that?

    I feel like I should get a leg up on posting my tutorials, but I have so many side projects on the go... :)

    I'd love a tutorial on that! (for what it's worth - which probably isn't much. lol) :)

    Export > Wavefront / OBJ

    Then I believe you want settings something like this: http://www.daz3d.com/forums/uploads/FileUpload/de/11e176e19ed8534169b4847c5c4666.jpg

    Load figure you want, Import > pick your file, then with it selected go to Edit > Transfer Utility. Tell it to copy FROM the figure you've loaded, TO the clothing object you imported.

    Might need to readd textures and things.

    There might be a better way someone can be bothered doing but there's my 2 minute tutorial~

    I actually find that I don't need to import using the transfer utility :) I'll try to upload a document to here and elsewhere something by the end of this week; I have a bunch of marking coming up so I want to get that out of the way first.

    edit: As a side note, are we ever going to get some of the rarer PAs on sale? I haven't seen Billy-T or Uzilite yet.

    I am interested in your secrets.

     

    On the topic of Aiko 3, she was offered at something crazy like 95% off during uhhh maybe it was last year's PC+ sale, so seeing her bundle at 75% now is sort of sad.

  • 3Diva3Diva Posts: 11,970
    mambanegra said:
    Uthgard said:

    If you are in the Platinum Club (which, given that you mentioned using the coupon, you should be) you don't need a purchase to get the Pool Deck free. The weekly freebies (without purchase) are one of the perks.

    So weird. I see this mentioned in the newsletter, but it isn't showing up for me under the recent listings. Is this normal for the weekly freebie? If so, is there a way to find it without having to remember to look at Tuesday's email? I don't generally read them top to bottom. 

    If you click on the Platinum Club banner on the front page then click on "weekly freebies" it will take you to the PC+ free items. :) http://www.daz3d.com/platinum-club-freebies

  • RenomistaRenomista Posts: 921
    pds said:
    divamakeup said:
    Wonderland said:
    divamakeup said:
    Wonderland said:

    After creating your categories comes the FUN PART - going through your "My Library" and "Poser Formats" and all your folders and seeing what all you have and organizing it into your categories. :) To organize single items you can right click the item's icon and choose "Categorize" and put a check mark by the folder or sub-folder that you want to put it in. To categorize an entire folder's content just right click the folder and choose "Create a Category from >> Selected Folder & Sub-Folders". 

    So, I'm woefully behind on getting my content better organized, partly because I didn't know how I wanted it categorized early on, and more recently because with the amount of content I now have, I didn't want to screw things up by doing it incorrectly and breaking something.

    I've taken the approach you described and set up a folder hierarchy that works for me, but before I go all gangbusters on my content I'd like to ask a few clarifying questions, if I may:

    Does categorizing my content the way you describe actually move it on disk, or does this method just change file paths/pointers?

    Most content has more than one file associated with it (geometry, textures, lights, cameras, materials, etc.). Does moving a single file create a problem? Ideally, I think I'd prefer to recategorize my content based on product so everything "stays together", but then if I want something dual-categorized, what happens then? I know how to put a single item into multiple categories, but does doing that break the paradigm of categorizing the product as a whole?

    Can I back up my custom categories (if so, how)?

    Can I port my custom categories to my different computers so I don't have to recreate them? If so, does it matter if the different computers are running different operating systems (Win7 and Mac OS X)?

    Maybe also interesting in this context:

    Here a tutorial how to creat new Metadata for stuff bought elwhere / freebies etc. I created some time ago:

    http://www.3d-almanac.com/index.php/2016/02/16/tutorial-metadata-101-create-smart-content-metadata-for-3rd-party-content-in-daz-studio/

  • donovancolbertdonovancolbert Posts: 1,421


    PDS, I spent the last couple of days following Diva's advice for creating custom organization, and it is AWESOME.

    ​It doesn't move anything on the drive, it just creates database pointers that allow you to organize and group content in ways that make sense to you. You can create whatever heiarchy you prefer... and you can put content in multiple different places (say, a hair item that works for V4, G2F, A4, G4, etc...  you can add the hair item to a hair folder under each one of those categories, with the mats and accessories under the hair).

    ​It is a pain to organize this way... very tedious and manual... but once you get it organized, the payoff is HUGE.

    ​Diva pointed me toward how to make a backup of user data. I do not see how to IMPORT it though. I've asked the thread administrator in that thread for details on how to export your organized user data and re import it back in, but haven't heard a response.

    ​
     

  • fixmypcmikefixmypcmike Posts: 19,682
    pds said:
    Does categorizing my content the way you describe actually move it on disk, or does this method just change file paths/pointers?

    It just sets pointers in the database, it doesn't move any files.

    pds said:
    Most content has more than one file associated with it (geometry, textures, lights, cameras, materials, etc.). Does moving a single file create a problem? Ideally, I think I'd prefer to recategorize my content based on product so everything "stays together", but then if I want something dual-categorized, what happens then? I know how to put a single item into multiple categories, but does doing that break the paradigm of categorizing the product as a whole?

    No problem, since the actual files aren't moved.  You can dual-categorize -- for example, if an outfit includes weapons I categorize it as part of the outfit and also in my weapons category.  Each item belongs to a Product, but a Product doesn't have to be all in the same category.

    pds said:
    Can I back up my custom categories (if so, how)?

    Yes, from the options menu in the Content Library pane, "Content DB Maintenance > Export User Data"

    pds said:

    Can I port my custom categories to my different computers so I don't have to recreate them? If so, does it matter if the different computers are running different operating systems (Win7 and Mac OS X)?

    You can port them, regardless of OS, just use "Content DB Maintenance > Re-Import Metadata".  Your User Data shows up at the top of the list of metadata you can import (it's saved in a plain-text file in the Runtime:Support folder of your first DS-format content folder, just like the metadata that comes in a product zip).  It even works if your content folder is in a different drive or path, as the plain-text files you get by Exporting User Data has relative paths.

  • fixmypcmikefixmypcmike Posts: 19,682

    The weekly freebie now shows up in the store, and more items have been added to the Mega Fast Grab.

  • thistledownsnamethistledownsname Posts: 1,336
    edited September 2016
    mtl1 said:
    lx said:
    divamakeup said:
    mtl1 said:

    I'm kind of teetering on Sunny 7. There's nothing explicitly *special* about the figure and the skin textures aren't appealing to me. For reference, I have Vic 7, Karen 7, Arabella 7, Olympia 7, Aiko 7, and Star 7. I suppose she'll fit the petite look, but size usually doesn't show up as a significant factor in my renders.

    divamakeup said:
    mtl1 said:

    Weird. I randomly happened onto this: The PA Sharktooth is actually on sale as a featured PA, as he/she put out the Tween Julie expressions product... but the PA isn't actually listed as a featured PA on the sale page.

     

    divamakeup said:
    mtl1 said:

    Hm. I'm not sure whether to go through with my purchase. It's not a large one by any means, but I don't *need* any of it. frown

    I didn't buy anything. I REALLY wanted the Gen 3 Iconic Shapes for Genesis and being able to get that for $10 sounded "ok" -not great but ok. But then I realized that I was only getting it to be able to wear V3 and A3 clothes on the newer figures -and since I don't use Genesis 1 I'd have to use the clone to get the A3 and V3 clothes to G1, then autofit it to G2F, then autofit it to G3F ...and that sounds like a pain in the bottom to me (not to mention you'd probably be getting a lot of distortion of the clothes by the time it gets autofited three times. lol So I decided to pass on the sale since that's the only thing I really wanted.

    I'm hoping there is a similar product (a V3 and A3 clone) for either G2F or G3F. 

    From my own experiences, exporting as OBJ and re-importing it actually fits MUCH better than those iconic shapes. :) So you saved money!!

    Whao! Ok, what now? Is there a tutorial on that?

    I feel like I should get a leg up on posting my tutorials, but I have so many side projects on the go... :)

    I'd love a tutorial on that! (for what it's worth - which probably isn't much. lol) :)

    Export > Wavefront / OBJ

    Then I believe you want settings something like this: http://www.daz3d.com/forums/uploads/FileUpload/de/11e176e19ed8534169b4847c5c4666.jpg

    Load figure you want, Import > pick your file, then with it selected go to Edit > Transfer Utility. Tell it to copy FROM the figure you've loaded, TO the clothing object you imported.

    Might need to readd textures and things.

    There might be a better way someone can be bothered doing but there's my 2 minute tutorial~

    I actually find that I don't need to import using the transfer utility :) I'll try to upload a document to here and elsewhere something by the end of this week; I have a bunch of marking coming up so I want to get that out of the way first.

    edit: As a side note, are we ever going to get some of the rarer PAs on sale? I haven't seen Billy-T or Uzilite yet.

    They had Perry Walinga at the begining, and he's pretty obscure.  Course the item I want starts at 50 bucks, so at 80% off I might be willing to buy it.  But the sale on it hasn't been that good yet.

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  • AtiAti Posts: 9,182
    Fixmypcmike said:

    The weekly freebie now shows up in the store, and more items have been added to the Mega Fast Grab.

    I still can't place this: http://www.daz3d.com/dreamlight What sale is this part of?

  • RenomistaRenomista Posts: 921
    Ati said:
    Fixmypcmike said:

    The weekly freebie now shows up in the store, and more items have been added to the Mega Fast Grab.

    I still can't place this: http://www.daz3d.com/dreamlight What sale is this part of?

    Was added to the Mega Fastgrab

  • AtiAti Posts: 9,182
    Renomista said:
    Ati said:
    Fixmypcmike said:

    The weekly freebie now shows up in the store, and more items have been added to the Mega Fast Grab.

    I still can't place this: http://www.daz3d.com/dreamlight What sale is this part of?

    Was added to the Mega Fastgrab

    Yep, thanks, it was added to it a bit later. Today's mega fastgrab is really fast-changing, we need to keep an eye on it. :)

  • L'AdairL'Adair Posts: 9,479
    divamakeup said:
    mambanegra said:
    Uthgard said:

    If you are in the Platinum Club (which, given that you mentioned using the coupon, you should be) you don't need a purchase to get the Pool Deck free. The weekly freebies (without purchase) are one of the perks.

    So weird. I see this mentioned in the newsletter, but it isn't showing up for me under the recent listings. Is this normal for the weekly freebie? If so, is there a way to find it without having to remember to look at Tuesday's email? I don't generally read them top to bottom. 

    If you click on the Platinum Club banner on the front page then click on "weekly freebies" it will take you to the PC+ free items. :) http://www.daz3d.com/platinum-club-freebies

    If you're a PC+ Member, you can find a link to the newsletter here: http://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/comment/1346531/#Comment_1346531

    It's the last entry. (The link won't work for non-members. Sorry.)

  • WonderlandWonderland Posts: 7,133

    I'm getting burned out and bored with this sale, it's going on too long. I feel sorry for the later PAs... I don't have the attention span for a full month of sales or the money... I think they should limit these sales to 5-10 days and maybe do them more often. It was fun at first looking at all the new items for sale, now it's just giving me a headache...

  • pdspds Posts: 593
    divamakeup said:
    pds said:
    divamakeup said:
    Wonderland said:
    divamakeup said:
    Wonderland said:

    After creating your categories comes the FUN PART - going through your "My Library" and "Poser Formats" and all your folders and seeing what all you have and organizing it into your categories. :) To organize single items you can right click the item's icon and choose "Categorize" and put a check mark by the folder or sub-folder that you want to put it in. To categorize an entire folder's content just right click the folder and choose "Create a Category from >> Selected Folder & Sub-Folders". 

    So, I'm woefully behind on getting my content better organized, partly because I didn't know how I wanted it categorized early on, and more recently because with the amount of content I now have, I didn't want to screw things up by doing it incorrectly and breaking something.

    I've taken the approach you described and set up a folder hierarchy that works for me, but before I go all gangbusters on my content I'd like to ask a few clarifying questions, if I may:

    Does categorizing my content the way you describe actually move it on disk, or does this method just change file paths/pointers?

    Most content has more than one file associated with it (geometry, textures, lights, cameras, materials, etc.). Does moving a single file create a problem? Ideally, I think I'd prefer to recategorize my content based on product so everything "stays together", but then if I want something dual-categorized, what happens then? I know how to put a single item into multiple categories, but does doing that break the paradigm of categorizing the product as a whole?

    Can I back up my custom categories (if so, how)?

    Can I port my custom categories to my different computers so I don't have to recreate them? If so, does it matter if the different computers are running different operating systems (Win7 and Mac OS X)?

    Hmmm I might be too much of a newbie to answer these - but I'll answer to the best of my ability. If anyone else has any better or more accurate information, please feel free to jump in. :) I feel weird giving advice when I'm so new to Daz - but I'll do my best! 

    "Does categorizing my content the way you describe actually move it on disk"

    I'm pretty sure it doesn't change where the files are (I've checked several of the ones I have categorized and it seams to keep them in the same place in the files), it only gives you another place to find them in your library (pretty much just copies the icon and puts the copy in a place you find more helpful - like creating a shortcut, I believe). 

    "Does moving a single file create a problem?"

    Categorizing a single file/icon doesn't create any issues - at least it never has for me, and I've categorized nearly all of my content - purchased and freebies. 

    "if I want something dual-categorized, what happens then?"

    Nothing, you just have an additional place to find it. For instance, I have a product file that contains both weapons and poses, that file I've categorized in both my "props >> weapons" category as well as my "poses >> G3F poses" category. 

    "Can I back up my custom categories (if so, how)?"

    I'm not sure but I THINK that backing up your User Data will save your custom categories (again, I'm not positive as I've not tested it). 

    "Can I port my custom categories to my different computers so I don't have to recreate them?"

    I don't know, I'm too much of a newbie to know the answer. I'm sorry. :) I've only been working with Daz Studio for about 5-6 months so I still have a lot to learn. :)

     

     

    divamakeup said:
    pds said:
    divamakeup said:
    Wonderland said:
    divamakeup said:
    Wonderland said:

    After creating your categories comes the FUN PART - going through your "My Library" and "Poser Formats" and all your folders and seeing what all you have and organizing it into your categories. :) To organize single items you can right click the item's icon and choose "Categorize" and put a check mark by the folder or sub-folder that you want to put it in. To categorize an entire folder's content just right click the folder and choose "Create a Category from >> Selected Folder & Sub-Folders". 

    So, I'm woefully behind on getting my content better organized, partly because I didn't know how I wanted it categorized early on, and more recently because with the amount of content I now have, I didn't want to screw things up by doing it incorrectly and breaking something.

    I've taken the approach you described and set up a folder hierarchy that works for me, but before I go all gangbusters on my content I'd like to ask a few clarifying questions, if I may:

    Does categorizing my content the way you describe actually move it on disk, or does this method just change file paths/pointers?

    Most content has more than one file associated with it (geometry, textures, lights, cameras, materials, etc.). Does moving a single file create a problem? Ideally, I think I'd prefer to recategorize my content based on product so everything "stays together", but then if I want something dual-categorized, what happens then? I know how to put a single item into multiple categories, but does doing that break the paradigm of categorizing the product as a whole?

    Can I back up my custom categories (if so, how)?

    Can I port my custom categories to my different computers so I don't have to recreate them? If so, does it matter if the different computers are running different operating systems (Win7 and Mac OS X)?

    Hmmm I might be too much of a newbie to answer these - but I'll answer to the best of my ability. If anyone else has any better or more accurate information, please feel free to jump in. :) I feel weird giving advice when I'm so new to Daz - but I'll do my best! 

    "Does categorizing my content the way you describe actually move it on disk"

    I'm pretty sure it doesn't change where the files are (I've checked several of the ones I have categorized and it seams to keep them in the same place in the files), it only gives you another place to find them in your library (pretty much just copies the icon and puts the copy in a place you find more helpful - like creating a shortcut, I believe). 

    "Does moving a single file create a problem?"

    Categorizing a single file/icon doesn't create any issues - at least it never has for me, and I've categorized nearly all of my content - purchased and freebies. 

    "if I want something dual-categorized, what happens then?"

    Nothing, you just have an additional place to find it. For instance, I have a product file that contains both weapons and poses, that file I've categorized in both my "props >> weapons" category as well as my "poses >> G3F poses" category. 

    "Can I back up my custom categories (if so, how)?"

    I'm not sure but I THINK that backing up your User Data will save your custom categories (again, I'm not positive as I've not tested it). 

    "Can I port my custom categories to my different computers so I don't have to recreate them?"

    I don't know, I'm too much of a newbie to know the answer. I'm sorry. :) I've only been working with Daz Studio for about 5-6 months so I still have a lot to learn. :)

     

    Thank you for taking the time to respond to my questions! I suspected some of these answers would be the case, but I thought it would be better to verify before blindly stumbling ahead and screwing things up, lol. I've only been at this a few months longer than you and am impressed by how rapidly you have assimiliated so many subtleties of working in Daz. won't be long before I could see you becoming a PA. :-)

  • pdspds Posts: 593
    Renomista said:
    pds said:
     

    Maybe also interesting in this context:

    Here a tutorial how to creat new Metadata for stuff bought elwhere / freebies etc. I created some time ago:

    http://www.3d-almanac.com/index.php/2016/02/16/tutorial-metadata-101-create-smart-content-metadata-for-3rd-party-content-in-daz-studio/

    Thanks, Renomista, I had seen that thread, but it seems like even more work than just recategorizing, and if I can wade through all of my personal categorizations, I don't think I'll have much use for Smart Content, though I could be wrong. When it works, I rather like it; unfortunately, I have a lot of content not yet supported by it and so it can also be frustrating experience.

  • pdspds Posts: 593
    donovancolbert said:


    PDS, I spent the last couple of days following Diva's advice for creating custom organization, and it is AWESOME.

    ​It doesn't move anything on the drive, it just creates database pointers that allow you to organize and group content in ways that make sense to you. You can create whatever heiarchy you prefer... and you can put content in multiple different places (say, a hair item that works for V4, G2F, A4, G4, etc...  you can add the hair item to a hair folder under each one of those categories, with the mats and accessories under the hair).

    ​It is a pain to organize this way... very tedious and manual... but once you get it organized, the payoff is HUGE.

    ​Diva pointed me toward how to make a backup of user data. I do not see how to IMPORT it though. I've asked the thread administrator in that thread for details on how to export your organized user data and re import it back in, but haven't heard a response.

    ​
     

    Thanks! I would love to know what you find out, or if you don't mind pointing me to the thread, I'll keep tabs on it too!

  • pdspds Posts: 593
    Fixmypcmike said:

    It just sets pointers in the database, it doesn't move any files.

    thought as much...it seemed quite responsive when I was experimenting with it.

    Fixmypcmike said:
    pds said:
    Most content has more than one file associated with it (geometry, textures, lights, cameras, materials, etc.). Does moving a single file create a problem? Ideally, I think I'd prefer to recategorize my content based on product so everything "stays together", but then if I want something dual-categorized, what happens then? I know how to put a single item into multiple categories, but does doing that break the paradigm of categorizing the product as a whole?

    No problem, since the actual files aren't moved.  You can dual-categorize -- for example, if an outfit includes weapons I categorize it as part of the outfit and also in my weapons category.  Each item belongs to a Product, but a Product doesn't have to be all in the same category.

    But if I want to keep everything neatly together, I'm guessing I should recategorize the whole product folder. For example, with a G3F character, if I just recategorize the "actor" rather than the whole product, I'm guessing that would leave her materials in the default category, which would mean hunting them down again. In your example of an outfit that includes weapons, when you add the weapons to both your outfit category and your weapons category, do you categorize the prop itself along with its mats in both places? Or put another way, I'm guessing you could recategorize the whole product to your outfits category and then additionally categorize the weapons prop (and associated mats?) to your weapons category?

    Sorry, just trying to be sure I understand how this all works.

    Fixmypcmike said:
    pds said:
    Can I back up my custom categories (if so, how)?

    Yes, from the options menu in the Content Library pane, "Content DB Maintenance > Export User Data"

    Excellent! Seems like a good idea, if only to have a backup after all the work goes into categorizing everything.

    Fixmypcmike said:
    pds said:

    Can I port my custom categories to my different computers so I don't have to recreate them? If so, does it matter if the different computers are running different operating systems (Win7 and Mac OS X)?

    You can port them, regardless of OS, just use "Content DB Maintenance > Re-Import Metadata".  Your User Data shows up at the top of the list of metadata you can import (it's saved in a plain-text file in the Runtime:Support folder of your first DS-format content folder, just like the metadata that comes in a product zip).  It even works if your content folder is in a different drive or path, as the plain-text files you get by Exporting User Data has relative paths.

    Awesome. I definitely need to do this as I work across several machines depending on where I am.

    Thank you very much for the info!

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