Daz Studio 6.25[.0.x], General Release!

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  • ImagoImago Posts: 5,733

    Any improvement for the animation tools? Or it still got the "double click scrub" timeline?

  • mjmeyermjmeyer Posts: 5

    yesThank you  very much

    Leana said:

    mjmeyer said:

    b) Is DAZ Studio 6 only a temporary trial version and will I have to subscribe to an expensive plan to really use it?

    No, it's not. It works like DS4 did, there's a free version and if you're a Premier member you have access to more features.

  • SaintSaint Posts: 69
    edited 1:34PM

    Anybody else having major lagging and framerate issues in Iray Draw Mode now?

    For anyone asking: Nvidia 4080, Studio Driver 610.47

    Post edited by Saint at
  • MetalSunde94MetalSunde94 Posts: 110

    Anyone else got this bug when pressing the "Restore Figure Pose" it causes the right click button to bug out... aka NOT working at all... quite annoying! it works if restarted but doing the "Restore" does the same thing...

  • maravthemakermaravthemaker Posts: 14
    edited 1:36PM

    I am interested what are the implications for privacy with the AI chatbot integration. Does it spy on what I do with the software, learn from me, whatever? Is my art spied on, copied, used for AI training etc?

    Post edited by maravthemaker at
  • DoctorJellybeanDoctorJellybean Posts: 9,951

    maravthemaker said:

    I am interested what are the implications for privacy with the AI chatbot integration. Does it spy on what I do with the software, learn from me, whatever? Is my art spied on, copied, used ofr AI training etc?

    The AI Chatbot is only there to answer your questions, it doesn't spy or learn from you. Any training is done elsewhere. 

  • maravthemakermaravthemaker Posts: 14
    edited 2:00PM

    DoctorJellybean said:

    maravthemaker said:

    I am interested what are the implications for privacy with the AI chatbot integration. Does it spy on what I do with the software, learn from me, whatever? Is my art spied on, copied, used ofr AI training etc?

    The AI Chatbot is only there to answer your questions, it doesn't spy or learn from you. Any training is done elsewhere. 

    That is reassuring, thanks. I wish it was clearly stated on the product page instead of scaring people off from the start

    Post edited by maravthemaker at
  • richardandtracyrichardandtracy Posts: 7,706
    edited 2:01PM

    Elor said:

    richardandtracy said:

    So, no manual install for offline machines?

    You should be able to install DIM on an offline machine, and use it in offline mode to install files you moved from an online computer to the DIM Download folder on your offline machine, and DIM should install them.

    It's how I'm using DIM on my rendering computer (it doesn't have my Daz credential saved), the main difference between your situation is that rendering computer is actually online but instead of downloading each files two times, I have synchronised DIM Download folder on my Mac with DIM Download folder on my PC, and so far, so good.

    How do I get the files onto a machine so I can transfer them to an offline machine when there is no page for DS6 like the DS4 download page below?

    My only machine I can download any files on to is an Android tablet, and DIM does not work on Android. I have no PC connected to the internet at home, and I have never had a Mac.

    Regards,

    Richard

    Post edited by richardandtracy at
  • AndrewJJPAndrewJJP Posts: 767

    It's fantasic to see this has been released, clearly a massive step. I installed it, and it basically works, but in iRay, the viewport is so laggy I couldn't consider using it. I couldn't imagine setting up lighting or adjusting shaders, or anything that requires iRay. Machine is a mobile 5090 / i9 / 64Gb RAM, so not what you'd call slow.

    You make a change with just a G9 loaded, then 5 seconds later, something happens. It wasn't like the 3090 desktop in 4.24; everything was smooth. I'm getting the impression that this is not an uncommon experience, so now we've got a release, I expect to get something usable soon. I'll try the patch on the 9th, and check my nVidia driver.

    Not asking for help, just stating this as feedback, since I feel that it's really not quite there yet. I've done without Daz for six months since I upgraded and discovered that there wasn't a stable release for the card. I can wait a bit longer, so I'll just say great job guys :)

  • MasterstrokeMasterstroke Posts: 2,407
    edited 2:12PM

    richardandtracy said:

    Elor said:

    richardandtracy said:

    So, no manual install for offline machines?

    You should be able to install DIM on an offline machine, and use it in offline mode to install files you moved from an online computer to the DIM Download folder on your offline machine, and DIM should install them.

    It's how I'm using DIM on my rendering computer (it doesn't have my Daz credential saved), the main difference between your situation is that rendering computer is actually online but instead of downloading each files two times, I have synchronised DIM Download folder on my Mac with DIM Download folder on my PC, and so far, so good.

    How do I get the files onto a machine so I can transfer them to an offline machine when there is no page for DS6 like the DS4 download page below?

    My only machine I can download any files on to is an Android tablet, and DIM does not work on Android. I have no PC connected to the internet at home, and I have never had a Mac.

    Regards,

    Richard

    I don't really understand.
    Do you want DS 4.24 offline on your PC or DS 6.25?
    The screenshot shows 4.24
     You download the files on a internet connected PC, copy them to a mobile hard drive, connect that hard drive to your offline computer and run the install exe.
    I see, Android tablet.
    Should still work to download them either to your tablet and copy those files to a mobile harddrive or download those files directly to your hard drive.

    Post edited by Masterstroke at
  • OstadanOstadan Posts: 1,131

    Maybe I am being thickheaded, but I do not see my usual Scene/Environment pane, and selecting this from the Windows->Panes menu seems to have no effect?

  • brainmuffinbrainmuffin Posts: 1,299

    How does one remove the Beta build version?

  • jjb24jjb24 Posts: 55

    Leana said:

    jjb24 said:

    DoctorJellybean said:

    Elor said:

    The name implies it should work with Daz Studio 4.24, but just to be sure: if I'm updating Default Ressources for Daz Studio 4.23+, it won't cause any problem with Daz Studio 4.24 ?

    No. 

    Is there any place that describes what 'Default Resources for Daz Studio 4.23+' is? What does it add? What does it remove? Why should I install it?

    "Default resources" contains basic things you need to use DS like the default shaders and lights.

    While I appreciate your reply it doesn't help much. I use 4.24 now so I must have the basic things you need to use it. I've also been using all the alpha and beta releases on the same PC because it has a 5090. If I install this file will DIM install it on Daz 4.24, Daz 6, or both? I will not install the released version of Daz 6 until I understand what will happen to 4.24. I understand expert users may appreciate the new features in Daz 6 but I'm not an expert and the two main things that matter to me are both bad. First most of my script based products and all of my plug-in products don't work in Daz 6 and I suspect some of them never will. Second, I spend almost all of my time in Daz using the main viewport and the performance of the main viewport in 4.24 is much, much better than it is in 6. Until both of these issues are addressed in Daz 6 I will continue using it only for rendering with my 5090. If necessary I will simply continue using the last beta and ignore the released version.

  • LeanaLeana Posts: 13,211

    Masterstroke said:

    richardandtracy said:

    Elor said:

    richardandtracy said:

    So, no manual install for offline machines?

    You should be able to install DIM on an offline machine, and use it in offline mode to install files you moved from an online computer to the DIM Download folder on your offline machine, and DIM should install them.

    It's how I'm using DIM on my rendering computer (it doesn't have my Daz credential saved), the main difference between your situation is that rendering computer is actually online but instead of downloading each files two times, I have synchronised DIM Download folder on my Mac with DIM Download folder on my PC, and so far, so good.

    How do I get the files onto a machine so I can transfer them to an offline machine when there is no page for DS6 like the DS4 download page below?

    My only machine I can download any files on to is an Android tablet, and DIM does not work on Android. I have no PC connected to the internet at home, and I have never had a Mac.

    Regards,

    Richard

    I don't really understand.
    Do you want DS 4.24 offline on your PC or DS 6.25?
    The screenshot shows 4.24
     You download the files on a internet connected PC, copy them to a mobile hard drive, connect that hard drive to your offline computer and run the install exe.
    I see, Android tablet.
    Should still work to download them either to your tablet and copy those files to a mobile harddrive or download those files directly to your hard drive.

    They want DS6. But unlike DS4 which does have a download section (as shown on the screenshot), there is currently none on the product library page for DS6, you can only get the files through DIM.

  • Iray preview works fine. Iray render dumps to a black screen. I am disgruntled.

  • LeanaLeana Posts: 13,211

    jjb24 said:

    Leana said:

    jjb24 said:

    DoctorJellybean said:

    Elor said:

    The name implies it should work with Daz Studio 4.24, but just to be sure: if I'm updating Default Ressources for Daz Studio 4.23+, it won't cause any problem with Daz Studio 4.24 ?

    No. 

    Is there any place that describes what 'Default Resources for Daz Studio 4.23+' is? What does it add? What does it remove? Why should I install it?

    "Default resources" contains basic things you need to use DS like the default shaders and lights.

    While I appreciate your reply it doesn't help much. I use 4.24 now so I must have the basic things you need to use it. I've also been using all the alpha and beta releases on the same PC because it has a 5090. If I install this file will DIM install it on Daz 4.24, Daz 6, or both? I will not install the released version of Daz 6 until I understand what will happen to 4.24. I understand expert users may appreciate the new features in Daz 6 but I'm not an expert and the two main things that matter to me are both bad. First most of my script based products and all of my plug-in products don't work in Daz 6 and I suspect some of them never will. Second, I spend almost all of my time in Daz using the main viewport and the performance of the main viewport in 4.24 is much, much better than it is in 6. Until both of these issues are addressed in Daz 6 I will continue using it only for rendering with my 5090. If necessary I will simply continue using the last beta and ignore the released version.

    Nothing will happen to DS4.24 if you install DS6, they're separate installs and can be both installed on the same computer. You can then point DS6 to the same content directories as DS4 if you want.

    The default resources files are content, not a part of the program. You install them into a DS content directory. If your DS6 uses the same content directories as DS4 then it should already have these files.

  • LeanaLeana Posts: 13,211

    brainmuffin said:

    How does one remove the Beta build version?

    You should be able to uninstall it with DIM. 

  • yonashaldyonashald Posts: 49

    jjb24 said:

    Leana said:

    jjb24 said:

    DoctorJellybean said:

    Elor said:

    The name implies it should work with Daz Studio 4.24, but just to be sure: if I'm updating Default Ressources for Daz Studio 4.23+, it won't cause any problem with Daz Studio 4.24 ?

    No. 

    Is there any place that describes what 'Default Resources for Daz Studio 4.23+' is? What does it add? What does it remove? Why should I install it?

    "Default resources" contains basic things you need to use DS like the default shaders and lights.

    While I appreciate your reply it doesn't help much. I use 4.24 now so I must have the basic things you need to use it. I've also been using all the alpha and beta releases on the same PC because it has a 5090. If I install this file will DIM install it on Daz 4.24, Daz 6, or both? I will not install the released version of Daz 6 until I understand what will happen to 4.24. I understand expert users may appreciate the new features in Daz 6 but I'm not an expert and the two main things that matter to me are both bad. First most of my script based products and all of my plug-in products don't work in Daz 6 and I suspect some of them never will. Second, I spend almost all of my time in Daz using the main viewport and the performance of the main viewport in 4.24 is much, much better than it is in 6. Until both of these issues are addressed in Daz 6 I will continue using it only for rendering with my 5090. If necessary I will simply continue using the last beta and ignore the released version.

    This man speaks the truth, the viewport is abysmal compared to 4.24 the lag and stutter is much worse (with the same scenes) on Daz 6, and since we have a 50xx card we are forced to work with a much more inferior program (Daz 6)

  • AndrewJJPAndrewJJP Posts: 767

    Actually, can I just check, as it seems people are using this seriously now? Is the expectation that this is usable on a 5090 with the viewport set to iRay? I mean that when you move things likke lights in the viewport, or move a figure to see how it affects shadows, you don't have to wait a few seconds. Victoria is telling me it doesn't work and suggesting the sort of optimisations I used to make on my 1060. I don't believe AI as far as I can throw i usually, but who knows...?

    So should I be getting a usable viewport? Somthing that I can see update quickly when I make changes? I just want to understand the expectation.

    Thanks.

  • richardandtracyrichardandtracy Posts: 7,706
    edited 3:04PM

    Masterstroke said:

    richardandtracy said:

    Elor said:

    richardandtracy said:

    So, no manual install for offline machines?

    You should be able to install DIM on an offline machine, and use it in offline mode to install files you moved from an online computer to the DIM Download folder on your offline machine, and DIM should install them.

    It's how I'm using DIM on my rendering computer (it doesn't have my Daz credential saved), the main difference between your situation is that rendering computer is actually online but instead of downloading each files two times, I have synchronised DIM Download folder on my Mac with DIM Download folder on my PC, and so far, so good.

    How do I get the files onto a machine so I can transfer them to an offline machine when there is no page for DS6 like the DS4 download page below?

    My only machine I can download any files on to is an Android tablet, and DIM does not work on Android. I have no PC connected to the internet at home, and I have never had a Mac.

    Regards,

    Richard

    I don't really understand.
    Do you want DS 4.24 offline on your PC or DS 6.25?
    The screenshot shows 4.24
     You download the files on a internet connected PC, copy them to a mobile hard drive, connect that hard drive to your offline computer and run the install exe.
    I see, Android tablet.
    Should still work to download them either to your tablet and copy those files to a mobile harddrive or download those files directly to your hard drive.

    I agree, it shows DS4, that's because I can't get an equivalent for DS6. It's a bit difficult to show it when I can't get it. I also mentioned I don't have an internet connected PC. And because there is no manual download I can't get the files onto a tablet. If you can show the steps, please do so.

    Regards,

    Richard 

    Post edited by richardandtracy at
  • jjb24jjb24 Posts: 55

    Leana said:

    jjb24 said:

    Leana said:

    jjb24 said:

    DoctorJellybean said:

    Elor said:

    The name implies it should work with Daz Studio 4.24, but just to be sure: if I'm updating Default Ressources for Daz Studio 4.23+, it won't cause any problem with Daz Studio 4.24 ?

    No. 

    Is there any place that describes what 'Default Resources for Daz Studio 4.23+' is? What does it add? What does it remove? Why should I install it?

    "Default resources" contains basic things you need to use DS like the default shaders and lights.

    While I appreciate your reply it doesn't help much. I use 4.24 now so I must have the basic things you need to use it. I've also been using all the alpha and beta releases on the same PC because it has a 5090. If I install this file will DIM install it on Daz 4.24, Daz 6, or both? I will not install the released version of Daz 6 until I understand what will happen to 4.24. I understand expert users may appreciate the new features in Daz 6 but I'm not an expert and the two main things that matter to me are both bad. First most of my script based products and all of my plug-in products don't work in Daz 6 and I suspect some of them never will. Second, I spend almost all of my time in Daz using the main viewport and the performance of the main viewport in 4.24 is much, much better than it is in 6. Until both of these issues are addressed in Daz 6 I will continue using it only for rendering with my 5090. If necessary I will simply continue using the last beta and ignore the released version.

    Nothing will happen to DS4.24 if you install DS6, they're separate installs and can be both installed on the same computer. You can then point DS6 to the same content directories as DS4 if you want.

    The default resources files are content, not a part of the program. You install them into a DS content directory. If your DS6 uses the same content directories as DS4 then it should already have these files.

    Thanks for the clarification. I have been sharing the content directory with both versions of Daz. If I understand correctly there is no need for me to install the 'Default Resources for Daz 4.23+' file since I already have this content from my installation of 4.24. Since this is the case I'll simply hide this file in DIM rather than installing it.

    Different question. I see people asking about uninstalling the beta. I guess this means that the Daz 6 release version will not update the beta installation and after installation I will have 3 versions of Daz on my PC: 4.24, 6 (2026) beta, and 6. Is there any problem with leaving all 3 versions on the machine other than wasting disk space?

  • ArgleSWArgleSW Posts: 157

    I have both Daz Studio 4.24 and 6 installed using the same NVIDIA 3090 GPU. The viewport in Daz Studio 6 looks broken in Texture Shaded mode which looks way better in 4.24. For example hair has no texture and skin appears very bright and over exposed. 

    I am missing hardware settings in the Interface tab of the preferences. By looking at the screenshot attached, version 6 is missing the following settings:

    • Per Pixel Shading
    • Hadware Anti-Aliasing
    • Display Optimization
    • Backface Lighting
    • Pixel Buffer

    This has been the case with all the build of Daz Studio 6 I've tried over the last few months. I assumed this "official release" would fix this issue but seems like its still in BETA.

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  • DoctorJellybeanDoctorJellybean Posts: 9,951

    AndrewJJP said:

    Actually, can I just check, as it seems people are using this seriously now? Is the expectation that this is usable on a 5090 with the viewport set to iRay? I mean that when you move things likke lights in the viewport, or move a figure to see how it affects shadows, you don't have to wait a few seconds. Victoria is telling me it doesn't work and suggesting the sort of optimisations I used to make on my 1060. I don't believe AI as far as I can throw i usually, but who knows...?

    So should I be getting a usable viewport? Somthing that I can see update quickly when I make changes? I just want to understand the expectation.

    Thanks.

    From my own personal experience: I do my setting up in Textured View and use Iray Viewport to do a quick check. The viewport is laggy when moving stuff around in Iray Viewport, but that has been the case in 4.x as well. There is a Windows update next week, it may improve things if some reports from DS 6 users are to go by. 

  • DoctorJellybeanDoctorJellybean Posts: 9,951

    jjb24 said:

    Different question. I see people asking about uninstalling the beta. I guess this means that the Daz 6 release version will not update the beta installation and after installation I will have 3 versions of Daz on my PC: 4.24, 6 (2026) beta, and 6. Is there any problem with leaving all 3 versions on the machine other than wasting disk space?

    No problem with all those installs. 

  • LeanaLeana Posts: 13,211
    edited 3:11PM

    jjb24 said:

    Different question. I see people asking about uninstalling the beta. I guess this means that the Daz 6 release version will not update the beta installation and after installation I will have 3 versions of Daz on my PC: 4.24, 6 (2026) beta, and 6. Is there any problem with leaving all 3 versions on the machine other than wasting disk space?

    Like for DS4, beta and general release of DS6 are separate installs. And no, there is no problem with leaving all 3 versions installed.

    Post edited by Leana at
  • SaintSaint Posts: 69

    This lagging nonsense is unacceptable, there's even a tiny bit of it in Texture Shaded and the new Universal Draw Modes as well.

  • MazhMazh Posts: 503
    edited 3:38PM

    Venger1979 said:

    For some reason DAZ6 is (alot) slower in the preview render then DAZ4.23. I have a 3090RTX Nvidea card. I would assume that it would at least be the same speed of the application.

    Same for me, same settings, only one G8F in the scene - 4.24 iray preview ist smooth , 6 stutters when changing the pov...

    Rendering itself seems to be faster for me.

    Post edited by Mazh at
  • Everything appears to work fine for me, with the exception of UltraScenery 2. I've tried reinstalling the plugin through DIM and manually. US2 pane does not show up anywhere, and US2 itself does not show up in Help > about installed plugins. Yet scenes containing UltraScenery 2 environments load and render just fine. 
    (Just a note, US2 works as expected in Daz 4.24)

  • LeanaLeana Posts: 13,211

    chute.stream7413 said:

    Everything appears to work fine for me, with the exception of UltraScenery 2. I've tried reinstalling the plugin through DIM and manually. US2 pane does not show up anywhere, and US2 itself does not show up in Help > about installed plugins. Yet scenes containing UltraScenery 2 environments load and render just fine. 
    (Just a note, US2 works as expected in Daz 4.24)

    Plugins for DS4 do not work in DS6, you need a new version compiled with the DS6 SDK. Some scripts also require an update.

  • DoctorJellybeanDoctorJellybean Posts: 9,951

    chute.stream7413 said:

    Everything appears to work fine for me, with the exception of UltraScenery 2. I've tried reinstalling the plugin through DIM and manually. US2 pane does not show up anywhere, and US2 itself does not show up in Help > about installed plugins. Yet scenes containing UltraScenery 2 environments load and render just fine. 
    (Just a note, US2 works as expected in Daz 4.24)

    It hasn't been released for DS 6 yet. The existing plugin only works in DS 4. 

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