Runtime DNA Merges With Daz 3D

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  • RedfernRedfern Posts: 1,647
    edited November 2016

    These furries say they're for Melody (the A3 version).  Is there another set for Melody 2.0? (V4 version?)  Or does this set also work with 2.0, or is the 2.0 version just out of luck?

    Sadly, it's the latter.  The only add-ons for Melody 2 were the texture sets (already migrated and in the store), but no morph collections to create wolves, bears, squirrels, etc. were ever released.

    Oh, and alas, no, the Melody 1 material is not compatible with Melody 2.

    Sincerely,

    Bill

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  • Is it possible to transfer morphs from A3 to v4?  I know we can do transfers from v4 to genesis and on up, but I'm not sure about the A3/V3 generation.  Would it be possible with some utilities to transfer from A3 to V4?

  • algovincianalgovincian Posts: 2,664

    Is it possible to transfer morphs from A3 to v4?  I know we can do transfers from v4 to genesis and on up, but I'm not sure about the A3/V3 generation.  Would it be possible with some utilities to transfer from A3 to V4?

    I bought them all, with plans (hopes) of going from A3/H3 to Genesis 1. The destination has to be a Genesis figure.

    - Greg

  • JOdelJOdel Posts: 6,306
    Kerya said:

    I'm assuming that these are the original versions, not the non-PMD versions?

  • Is it possible to transfer morphs from A3 to v4?  I know we can do transfers from v4 to genesis and on up, but I'm not sure about the A3/V3 generation.  Would it be possible with some utilities to transfer from A3 to V4?

    This product might do it?

  • Is it possible to transfer morphs from A3 to v4?  I know we can do transfers from v4 to genesis and on up, but I'm not sure about the A3/V3 generation.  Would it be possible with some utilities to transfer from A3 to V4?

    I bought them all, with plans (hopes) of going from A3/H3 to Genesis 1. The destination has to be a Genesis figure.

    - Greg

    I've got some of them and I'm getting the base figures that are in the sale today with a couple of the morphs so I'll be doing some experimenting and seeing what I can come up with, too.  Yeah, getting them all up to Genesis 1 would be a nice bonus.  :)

  • RedfernRedfern Posts: 1,647
    edited November 2016

    Now that all of the Melody & Micah products are once again available, I wanted to show what can done with them.

    As you can see from my avatar, I'm fascinated with cat people (that's me wearing prosthetic makeup I sculpted and cast), and I've drawn catgirls (the furred "kemono" variety as opposed the the nearly human "neko-chan") since 1985.  Since delving into digital graphics, I've continually experimented with different figures trying to recreate two different characters in polygonal form.  LittleFox's "Melody" enhanced by Beth Capsces morphs has allowed me to get closer to my illustrated designs than any other figure.

    Here's "K'Tharr Rauthimas", an "ailuromorph" who developed from those first "funny animal" drawings I doodled in March of '85.  You can compare the Melody version with the inserted pen and colored pencil drawing I drew in the latter 90s.  I'll leave it to you to determine how close I caught the original 2D concept.

    Aiko 3.0 Base...DAZ3D
    Aiko 3.0 Morphs and Maps...DAZ3D
    Kioki for A3...Beth Capsces
    Melody...Lady LittleFox
    Furries for Melody...Beth Capsces
    Fisher Cat textures...Beth Capsces
    Lotus for Aiko 3.0 jacket...Lourdes_Mercado
    S.P.V. Tactical Suit for A3 gloves...Vampir3Princess & Lesthat
    Shadow Dancer belt...Lourdes
    CyberLink Suit Deleter cable boxes...Bugzlife
    Wild & Messy Hair...DAZ3D
    Kasa for Aiko...JeNelson
    Cazual Legwraps for H3...Kattey

    And here's "Lt. Ahtahbi Mzzkiti" from "Freighter Tails", a web-comic I drew from 2001 and then allowed to languish after my writing partner, Paul Scott Gibbs died in 2002.  Yeah, I used similar morphs for her face, but that's logical as I used K'th as a "template" for Mzzkiti and simply drew her a tad more cartoonish style.

    Aiko 3.0 Base...DAZ3D
    Aiko 3.0 Morphs and Maps...DAZ3D
    Kioki for A3...Beth Capsces
    Melody...Lady LittleFox
    Furries for Melody...Beth Capsces
    Tiger textures...Beth Capsces
    Rabbit textures...Beth Capsces
    Kasa for Aiko...JeNelson
    Versa-Tail...JeNelson
    A3 Bodysuits & Machine Gun set...Billy-T
    SPF padded vest...Little Dragon & Idelacio
    Tail tuft...Little Dragon

    True, Melody might not serve everyone's needs for all "anthro" characters, but fdor me, she proved the near perfect solution for translating two beloved personal concepts into a new medium.

    Sincerely,

    Bill

    Melody-Mzzkiti-J-1.jpg
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  • CapscesCapsces Posts: 465

    These furries say they're for Melody (the A3 version).  Is there another set for Melody 2.0? (V4 version?)  Or does this set also work with 2.0, or is the 2.0 version just out of luck?

    These do not work with Melody 2. I actually have a bunch of head morphs I started for Melody 2. Unfortunately, they were sidelined long ago for various reasons.

  • CapscesCapsces Posts: 465
    edited November 2016

    Is it possible to transfer morphs from A3 to v4?  I know we can do transfers from v4 to genesis and on up, but I'm not sure about the A3/V3 generation.  Would it be possible with some utilities to transfer from A3 to V4?

    I'll not say anything for sure, as I've been out of the morphing loop for a while, but I doubt they can be transferred. These are not strictly A3. Littlefox made an entirely new head (so it is not mesh compatible with A3) and modified the hip mesh to add the tail.

    Post edited by Capsces on
  • CapscesCapsces Posts: 465
    JOdel said:
    Kerya said:

    I'm assuming that these are the original versions, not the non-PMD versions?

    These should be the decoded, non-PMD versions. Anyone ran into problems with either?

  • TaozTaoz Posts: 10,233
    edited November 2016
    Capsces said:
    JOdel said:
    Kerya said:

    I'm assuming that these are the original versions, not the non-PMD versions?

    These should be the decoded, non-PMD versions. Anyone ran into problems with either?

    I'm getting some errors when loading the Melody Furries figures but I haven't noticed any problems in practice yet. I assume they may affect something in some contexts though.  Micah loads without errors.

    2016-19-02 21:19:32.616 Importing File...
    2016-19-02 21:19:32.617 Importing Furries MEL LE.cr2 ...
    2016-19-02 21:19:32.666 Reading MelodyA3.obj
    2016-19-02 21:19:33.019 Warning: Wrong type of node for joint parameter on line 1598 in K:/My DAZ 3D Library/Runtime/Libraries/Character/CDI/Furries/Furries MEL LE.cr2
    2016-19-02 21:19:33.022 Warning: Wrong type of node for joint parameter on line 1618 in K:/My DAZ 3D Library/Runtime/Libraries/Character/CDI/Furries/Furries MEL LE.cr2
    2016-19-02 21:19:33.062 No bone found for otherActor on line 5322 in K:/My DAZ 3D Library/Runtime/Libraries/Character/CDI/Furries/Furries MEL LE.cr2
    2016-19-02 21:19:35.634 PZ3Importer: Removing face group rEar no associated node.
    2016-19-02 21:19:35.646 PZ3Importer: Removing face group lEar no associated node.
    2016-19-02 21:19:35.836 Time to load file: 3219.45 ms
    2016-19-02 21:19:36.502 Imported: Furries MEL LE.cr2
    2016-19-02 21:19:36.512 Building Scene...
    2016-19-02 21:19:36.603 File loaded in 0 min 4.0 sec.
    2016-19-02 21:19:36.604 Loaded file: Furries MEL LE.cr2


    2016-19-02 21:19:39.988 Importing File...
    2016-19-02 21:19:39.988 Importing Furries MEL FBM.cr2 ...
    2016-19-02 21:19:40.060 Reading MelodyA3.obj
    2016-19-02 21:19:40.406 Warning: Wrong type of node for joint parameter on line 2448 in K:/My DAZ 3D Library/Runtime/Libraries/Character/CDI/Furries/Furries MEL FBM.cr2
    2016-19-02 21:19:40.408 Warning: Wrong type of node for joint parameter on line 2468 in K:/My DAZ 3D Library/Runtime/Libraries/Character/CDI/Furries/Furries MEL FBM.cr2
    2016-19-02 21:19:40.464 No bone found for otherActor on line 15783 in K:/My DAZ 3D Library/Runtime/Libraries/Character/CDI/Furries/Furries MEL FBM.cr2
    2016-19-02 21:19:43.429 PZ3Importer: Removing face group rEar no associated node.
    2016-19-02 21:19:43.441 PZ3Importer: Removing face group lEar no associated node.
    2016-19-02 21:19:43.661 Time to load file: 3673.73 ms
    2016-19-02 21:19:44.296 Imported: Furries MEL FBM.cr2
    2016-19-02 21:19:44.305 Building Scene...
    2016-19-02 21:19:44.424 File loaded in 0 min 4.5 sec.
    2016-19-02 21:19:44.425 Loaded file: Furries MEL FBM.cr2
     

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  • Capsces said:

    Is it possible to transfer morphs from A3 to v4?  I know we can do transfers from v4 to genesis and on up, but I'm not sure about the A3/V3 generation.  Would it be possible with some utilities to transfer from A3 to V4?

    I'll not say anything for sure, as I've been out of the morphing loop for a while, but I doubt they can be transferred. These are not strictly A3. Littlefox made an entirely new head (so it is not mesh compatible with A3) and modified the hip mesh to add the tail.

    Well, that doesn't sound promising, but I'll know for sure when I start playing around with them.  Thanks for the heads up about those modifications, though, as the info will probably help.  :)

  • Melody and Micah load fine in Poser 11. And Bast and Anubis look great.

  • Well, the expirement was a bust.  Got the furry options working (though without textures for now), but they're too different from Aiko for the GenX converter to recognize it.  So that route to Genesis is a dead end.  Haven't decided if I'll keep Melody and the Furries as just A3ish things to use or if I'll be returning them with the A3 addon for GenX.

  • fixmypcmikefixmypcmike Posts: 19,682

    Is it possible to transfer morphs from A3 to v4?  I know we can do transfers from v4 to genesis and on up, but I'm not sure about the A3/V3 generation.  Would it be possible with some utilities to transfer from A3 to V4?

    This product might do it?

    No, that just lets you use the 3rd Generation figures as a source to transfer from, and in any event since these aren't morphs but have replaced meshes for the head and hip, they won't transfer.

  • CapscesCapsces Posts: 465
    edited November 2016

     

    Taozen said:
    Capsces said:
    JOdel said:
    Kerya said:

    I'm assuming that these are the original versions, not the non-PMD versions?

    These should be the decoded, non-PMD versions. Anyone ran into problems with either?

    I'm getting some errors when loading the Melody Furries figures but I haven't noticed any problems in practice yet. I assume they may affect something in some contexts though.  Micah loads without errors.

    2016-19-02 21:19:32.616 Importing File...
    2016-19-02 21:19:32.617 Importing Furries MEL LE.cr2 ...
    2016-19-02 21:19:32.666 Reading MelodyA3.obj
    2016-19-02 21:19:33.019 Warning: Wrong type of node for joint parameter on line 1598 in K:/My DAZ 3D Library/Runtime/Libraries/Character/CDI/Furries/Furries MEL LE.cr2
    2016-19-02 21:19:33.022 Warning: Wrong type of node for joint parameter on line 1618 in K:/My DAZ 3D Library/Runtime/Libraries/Character/CDI/Furries/Furries MEL LE.cr2
    2016-19-02 21:19:33.062 No bone found for otherActor on line 5322 in K:/My DAZ 3D Library/Runtime/Libraries/Character/CDI/Furries/Furries MEL LE.cr2
    2016-19-02 21:19:35.634 PZ3Importer: Removing face group rEar no associated node.
    2016-19-02 21:19:35.646 PZ3Importer: Removing face group lEar no associated node.
    2016-19-02 21:19:35.836 Time to load file: 3219.45 ms
    2016-19-02 21:19:36.502 Imported: Furries MEL LE.cr2
    2016-19-02 21:19:36.512 Building Scene...
    2016-19-02 21:19:36.603 File loaded in 0 min 4.0 sec.
    2016-19-02 21:19:36.604 Loaded file: Furries MEL LE.cr2


    2016-19-02 21:19:39.988 Importing File...
    2016-19-02 21:19:39.988 Importing Furries MEL FBM.cr2 ...
    2016-19-02 21:19:40.060 Reading MelodyA3.obj
    2016-19-02 21:19:40.406 Warning: Wrong type of node for joint parameter on line 2448 in K:/My DAZ 3D Library/Runtime/Libraries/Character/CDI/Furries/Furries MEL FBM.cr2
    2016-19-02 21:19:40.408 Warning: Wrong type of node for joint parameter on line 2468 in K:/My DAZ 3D Library/Runtime/Libraries/Character/CDI/Furries/Furries MEL FBM.cr2
    2016-19-02 21:19:40.464 No bone found for otherActor on line 15783 in K:/My DAZ 3D Library/Runtime/Libraries/Character/CDI/Furries/Furries MEL FBM.cr2
    2016-19-02 21:19:43.429 PZ3Importer: Removing face group rEar no associated node.
    2016-19-02 21:19:43.441 PZ3Importer: Removing face group lEar no associated node.
    2016-19-02 21:19:43.661 Time to load file: 3673.73 ms
    2016-19-02 21:19:44.296 Imported: Furries MEL FBM.cr2
    2016-19-02 21:19:44.305 Building Scene...
    2016-19-02 21:19:44.424 File loaded in 0 min 4.5 sec.
    2016-19-02 21:19:44.425 Loaded file: Furries MEL FBM.cr2
     

    I'm not sure what all the Daz Studio errors mean. I believe they exist in Melody too. However, I don't think they keep anything from working properly, but should you discover something amiss, feel free to let me know.

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  • CapscesCapsces Posts: 465

    Melody and Micah load fine in Poser 11. And Bast and Anubis look great.

    That's good to know. They were created in Poser, so they should be happy there. Of course they work fine in Daz Studio too, but may need textures modified if rendering in IRAY.

  • CapscesCapsces Posts: 465

    Well, the expirement was a bust.  Got the furry options working (though without textures for now), but they're too different from Aiko for the GenX converter to recognize it.  So that route to Genesis is a dead end.  Haven't decided if I'll keep Melody and the Furries as just A3ish things to use or if I'll be returning them with the A3 addon for GenX.

    I am sorry they don't work with Genesis. I was concerned about them being very dated, but decided they're a unique toony (and fun) furry option that hasn't been replaced, yet.

  • I think there is still some great fun to be had with them even if they can't be converted to work with new figures.  I agree they are unique and there isn't anything else like them out there.  I'll be keeping mine even if I can't move them up a generation or two.

  • almahiedraalmahiedra Posts: 1,365
    Capsces said:

    Well, the expirement was a bust.  Got the furry options working (though without textures for now), but they're too different from Aiko for the GenX converter to recognize it.  So that route to Genesis is a dead end.  Haven't decided if I'll keep Melody and the Furries as just A3ish things to use or if I'll be returning them with the A3 addon for GenX.

    I am sorry they don't work with Genesis. I was concerned about them being very dated, but decided they're a unique toony (and fun) furry option that hasn't been replaced, yet.

    Hi! Capsces. I have a question for you. Do you know if RDNA sassafras cat will be included in DAZ store? You product for sassafras too?

  • Capsces said:

    I am sorry they don't work with Genesis. I was concerned about them being very dated, but decided they're a unique toony (and fun) furry option that hasn't been replaced, yet.

    I'm very glad you offered them. ITo my mind, Aiko 3 and Hiro 3 are just about a perfect balance between cartoony and realistic, and there are still a lot of good free items for them. I just hunted down a great expression set on Sharecg for Melody. The only thing I would wish for is more Egyptian gods.

    I do have a question, though. Where are the Egyptian clothes that Bast and Anubis wear in the promo pics? I grabbed the staff of life, but it'd be nice to have the rest.

  • KeryaKerya Posts: 10,943

    I still love the older figures too - they have their own charm! Thanks for not vaulting them!

     

    Will shetterly: http://www.daz3d.com/harmony-for-aiko3

    I don't know what Micah is wearing ...

  • CapscesCapsces Posts: 465
    GiGi_7 said:
    Capsces said:

     

    I am sorry they don't work with Genesis. I was concerned about them being very dated, but decided they're a unique toony (and fun) furry option that hasn't been replaced, yet.

    Hi! Capsces. I have a question for you. Do you know if RDNA sassafras cat will be included in DAZ store? You product for sassafras too?

    I doubt it. The model creator removed it from RDNA some time ago. It was sort of a surprise to me when I discovered it.

  • CapscesCapsces Posts: 465
    Capsces said:

    I am sorry they don't work with Genesis. I was concerned about them being very dated, but decided they're a unique toony (and fun) furry option that hasn't been replaced, yet.

    I'm very glad you offered them. ITo my mind, Aiko 3 and Hiro 3 are just about a perfect balance between cartoony and realistic, and there are still a lot of good free items for them. I just hunted down a great expression set on Sharecg for Melody. The only thing I would wish for is more Egyptian gods.

    I do have a question, though. Where are the Egyptian clothes that Bast and Anubis wear in the promo pics? I grabbed the staff of life, but it'd be nice to have the rest.

    As Kerya noted, the Melody outfit is Harmony. The guy is wearing a chopped up version of an outfit by Frances Coffill and Linda Sweet called Delta Sun, which I purchased here, but is no longer available.

  • KeryaKerya Posts: 10,943

    Aaaaw - I searched for Delta Sun - I wished I could buy it! It's cute!

    http://docs.daz3d.com/doku.php/public/read_me/index/6588/start

     

  • TaozTaoz Posts: 10,233
    edited November 2016

    Isn't there some Furball Furs missing (rabbit/bunny, skunk, siamese)? These are shown on the promo for the morphs.

    Post edited by Taoz on
  • will shetterlywill shetterly Posts: 278
    edited November 2016

    Darn. A shame they pulled Delta Sun.

    Post edited by will shetterly on
  • LeanaLeana Posts: 12,737
    Kerya said:

    Aaaaw - I searched for Delta Sun - I wished I could buy it! It's cute!

    http://docs.daz3d.com/doku.php/public/read_me/index/6588/start

    From memory it was poser dynamic clothes.

  • RedfernRedfern Posts: 1,647

    The dress and the loincloth, yes, but other elements like the bracelets and footwear are conforming.

    Sincerely,

    Bill

  • KeryaKerya Posts: 10,943

    Free textures for Cookie and Athena for Cookie: http://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/124046/free-textures-for-cookie

     

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