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Yeah, that would give data for people who buy "adult products", but it wouldn't give data about the number of customers who stop buying ANY (even non-adult) products here, because they are upset because of the company's choice to sell any "adult products" at all.
Without asking Your customers directly, even a lot data still ends only in guesswork.
Asking is hardly reliable as an indicator of what will sell - as witness the PAs who have asked the forums and been burnt as a result. I think you are also grossly underestimating how much information can be extracted from sales data.
I don't think problem is with adult products being offered as much as it is with poor filtering of these products for people that don't want to see them.
Every store selling products for DAZ I have used has some sort of "Adult" section, though they had more time to develop proper filtering.
Refusing to buy from the store just because store is offering something You don't approve of is going to severly limit your buying options.
I can agree that DAZ is a big enough company and web sales are important enough they should be investing a lot more in more sophsticated product filtering. All the things DAZ-DEALS offers should be built right into the webstore. In my opinion, it is very silly not investing in making a MUCH better webstore.
There's a nice gift card deal up at the moment, just in case people haven't seen it yet. 25 % off without a buy-in, 30% with something new.
As much as I would like a filter for NSFW products like genitilia and so forth, the truth is that, any filter to exlude any products is bad for business. Even hiding the items we own works less than half the time. It's in the best interest for both Daz and the PAs that we see everything offered, and that includes requiring us to scroll through massive lists of products while limiting our filter options.
Sadly, sex sells, and the fact we're seeing more of it means that it's only getting more popular, and those who aren't into it seem to be the small, vocal minority. I just accept I'm in the minority and focus on products I prefer, while thankful at least lately the main promo images haven't shown NSFW images.
I've never been so conflicted about a GC sale.
On one hand, that's a nicer discount, even at base, than we're usually offered.
On the other hand, lately Daz is *really* disincentivizing me from buying. Which doesn't make me feel particularly good about handing them a large sum of money just to sit on in the faith that they'll produce good enough deals for me to act on them.
Theh next freebie could be Sci Fi Hallway 941! That's worth adding to the cart, at least.
True! Don't need a GC for that, though.
(In fairness, I like the shaders that came this week. I have no immediate need for them, but I could see using them at some point.)
I don't know whether I underestimate the ability of DAZ marketing to extract information from data they can't have (aka customers thinking process) or if you overestimate their mind reading capabilities.
I'm quite sure without directly asking a person nobody is able to KNOW the reason for that person's actions or non actions. I could stop buying here at the shop, silently, and marketing would only be able to guess my reason(s) for it and would - with a high probability - make a wrong guess.
They don't need to read minds, they need to read actions - which they can mine, probably in considerable detail, from the available information.
Asking is also unreliable - see opinion polls.
Companies have so much information from us from both internal external sources-I have no doubt they know my buying habits down to an exact science. I see those Daz ads pop up on other sites after I recently visited the store, too. I support Daz and the PAs making products that'll support them more. As much as I dislike the kinky stuff appearing all the time, I accept there's an audience for it so there's a reason they're selling it in the first place.
As for opinion polls, I could potentially discern whether you're being truthful or not Richard; depending on the tone of your meow. "What were your thoughts on the implenetation of Yellow? Ah, was that a 'meooow' or a 'meowrawr'? Indeed, it has been noted."
Someone mentioned having a separate Adult section. I think that's a great idea to put the more hard core products in. All the genital morphs, genital hair, BDSM, goes in the Adult section while we can still choose to see regular nudity and regular lingerie/swimsuits. Any products requiring or showing closeups of genitalia would be considered Adult and put in that section but full body nudity for the purpose of being able to see the skin quality would be in the regular section and available for those who want to see it or could still be hidden by those who don't.
As I already wrote: when I suddenly stop buying stuff here, without any message in the forum or anywhere else, they can only guess my reasons and probably end up guessing wrong. But I think it's time to end this discussion now. You can guess my reason for this descision
A gift card sale I can actually participate in! Normally I catch these and they have a silly buy in. I think I'll splurge a bit and get myself a 50 dollar card. I spent all morning wondering if I should get 30 or 40 (times are tough!)... Even if the rest of the sale continues to be bland, at least I got some credit :D
Nope, not conflicted here. I've already got one in my cart. I could do without the toons and the blatant NSFW stuff, since neither genre interests me, but there's still plenty for me to get spendy about.
No conflict here either, but then I'm not perpetually pissed off at DAZ (I actualy like DAZ- it's a pretty cool business and a wonderful hobby). My problem is trying to stay in next month's budget- I've already shot this month's to pieces. I also like the NSFW items, and I'm glad they're available here.
This seems like a wonderful idea, I do hope DAZ sees this!
It sounds good to me, too. I bet the customers looking for that content would appreciate being able to find it more easily, too.
bundlesqVving like you @SilverGirl. Do I really want to give Daz a big - for me - chunk of money when I haven't been that thrilled with a lot of deals? I mean, I haven't bought a lot post-holiday sales & a lot of that is free Premier bundles & I can't use GCs to pay the fee. On the other hand, when there is something I can just grab it.
I have a gift card in my cart (been there since store changeover), but I just can't get myself to pull the trigger. The store content has changed so much, I don't find much new stuff of interest. How much do I want to invest in hopes that some interesting things come along, and Daz stays viable until I spend that store credit?
Yeah, that's the thing for me. There's only been one interesting (to me) sale in the last two-and-a-half months. If I dump my discretionary spending into store credit... well, there it sits, possibly for just as long or longer, and I can't do anything else with it that would actually bring me some joy. And given the price of necessities is going up... it's probably most responsible in my situation to have that money free up for actual needs.
I'm another person who decided against that gift card because of both, uninteresting content and lack of deals that would entice spending.
March Madness require new release buy-in, and not a single day was a day when I wanted a new release enough. Sure, I ended up getting that Easy Filatoon set, but by then, it was already a Still Mad, so no triggers for additional discounts, so no further spending either.
So it just feels like buying a gift card would be throwing money away, especially that my Daz+ expires in a couple of months, and at this stage, I don't see myself extending it. There just isn't enough incentive to do so.
I went for a large gift card. The discount is good and if I don't spend it during March Madness I probably will spend it before my Premier membership expires in July.
The gift card was a no-brainer for me. Over the last four years I've paid real money only for the lowest cost useable items that would qualify me for the gift card - and with three or four exceptions they've all been a minimum of 15% off. Most have been 20% off. All other purchases have ben with the discounted store credit.
And yes, March Madness this year as been more sadness, reminding me of a Hollywood cowboy star - Slim Pickens. Lots and lots of the same old thing.
this classic must be reposted for March Madness...
Wow. Unless there's a good flash later today... as my dad would say, "got skunked."
I might get the Iray Rainbow effect, but other than that, pretty meh. The offered Wedge Sandals aren't bad either, but undecided if I'm getting those.
You may have some wedge shoes already - I found that I did. Can't trace them in the store here though. Anyway, how many pairs of shoes do you need?
Ahh. I detect a flaw in my argument. Shoe aquisition is unaffected by need.
Regards,
Richard
Very true! Shoe aquisition is indeed unaffected by need. Your logic is undeniable. There's truly no end of how many shoes I could ever need. I might be an addict.
I checked my library and I somehow only have one pair of wedge heels. I also have a pair of Wedge Flip Flops, which are nice, but I like the wedge heels look more. And they can increase height without neccesarily putting a lot of pressure on the model's ankles. Oh and speaking of ankles, I could use more anklets...