New Year, New Sales Thread: Report Issues Here 2 "Reporting Only"

Gordig

Today's sales page attempted to make sense of Ergou's nonsensically named Uksn by misspelling it Ukan.

 

Cris Palomino

Gordig said:

Today's sales page attempted to make sense of Ergou's nonsensically named Uksn by misspelling it Ukan.

 

 Reported.

tsroemi

mding said:

Here is how AI Victoria comments on her answer, and I think that sounds pretty encouraging!

Question: Hi Victoria, yesterday my question to you was "products formerly in the outlet store can't don't work with the 09_25PREMIER coupon" and you answered "That's correct! Products that were formerly in our outlet store typically can't be used with coupons like the 09_25PREMIER coupon.
Our outlet store has a policy that states "Unless otherwise specified, no discounts, coupons, tokens, or other deals may be applied to Outlet Items." This restriction generally applies to items even after they've moved out of the outlet store.
This is an intentional limitation to maintain the special pricing structure of outlet items and former outlet items." Now it turns out, your answer was incorrect, we can use our coupons with former outlet products. Why did you tell me this answer - did you invent it?

Answer:

I sincerely apologize for the confusion in my previous response! You're absolutely right to question this.

Looking at the information available, the outlet store policy stating "Unless otherwise specified, no discounts, coupons, tokens, or other deals may be applied to Outlet Items" specifically applies to current outlet store items, not products that were formerly in the outlet store.

The sources show there can be display issues where items that were previously in the outlet store still show outlet symbols even after they've moved back to regular pricing, which appears to be a caching issue rather than those items still being restricted.

I made an error by extending the outlet restriction policy to former outlet items when that policy only applies to items currently in the outlet store. Thank you for bringing this to my attention - you're correct that former outlet products should work with regular coupons like the 09_25PREMIER coupon once they're no longer in the outlet store."

Question:Is it correct to say that your wrong answer was an assumption?

Answer:

Yes, you're absolutely correct. My previous wrong answer was indeed an assumption. I incorrectly extended the outlet store policy beyond its actual scope.

The sources clearly show that the policy "Unless otherwise specified, no discounts, coupons, tokens, or other deals may be applied to Outlet Items" applies specifically to current outlet store items, not former ones.

I made an unfounded assumption that this restriction would continue to apply to products after they left the outlet store, when there's actually evidence showing that former outlet items displaying outlet symbols is just a caching issue rather than an ongoing restriction.

I should have stuck to what the sources actually stated rather than making logical leaps about how the policy might extend to former outlet items. Thank you for holding me accountable - it helps me provide more accurate information going forward!

 

Not to harp on too much about this, just FYI: while it may sound as if the AI is learning from your input and will not make the same mistake in the future, none of the AIs in existence today are programmed to work that way, afaik. Their data set is closed, and your input doesn't really faze them at all. They're just being 'polite' as they have learned to be from their initial programming and their original data sets. They will keep on making the very same mistakes and then apologizing heartily - repeat ad nauseam. It's a flawed system that way.

Unfortunately, humankind is such a mess at this point that it would be completely unfeasible to let AIs learn 'in the wild'.

mding

@tsroemi: Unfortunately that is true, but i would have hoped, that as i wasn't conveying any RL facts but was on a more abstract level  of ideas / methods / concepts, a learning might be possible, as the AI could analyse these according to the "logical rules" it was programmed to use on the input it receives. If autonomous learning on such an abstract level wouldn't be possible, it would mean to me that these apps can't be described as AI. 

miladyderyni_173d399f47

What is the deal when you have a Debut New product in the cart with a Featured DO? The text just says, "Featured Daz Originals with any Debut New Release!" I'm guessing an additional discount.

mding

@miladyderyni_173d399f47: To me it reads: an extra 30% on the collection of DO of the link below

Elor

miladyderyni_173d399f47 said:

What is the deal when you have a Debut New product in the cart with a Featured DO? The text just says, "Featured Daz Originals with any Debut New Release!" I'm guessing an additional discount.

It said Extra 30% on my computer:

But I'm not sure it's working. When I add one of the product from the selection, it gets discounted (because I suppose, I own a Golden Ticket), but adding a Debut New doesn't lower the price further.

mding

@Elor: same here, price stays the same and the price was higher than $2.99, so it can't be because of that rule. Also have a GT.

Richard Haseltine

Elor said:

miladyderyni_173d399f47 said:

What is the deal when you have a Debut New product in the cart with a Featured DO? The text just says, "Featured Daz Originals with any Debut New Release!" I'm guessing an additional discount.

It said Extra 30% on my computer:

But I'm not sure it's working. When I add one of the product from the selection, it gets discounted (because I suppose, I own a Golden Ticket), but adding a Debut New doesn't lower the price further.

Yes, this does not seem to be working - reporting.

Elor

It seems fixed: discount is higher with a DNR, thank you :)

miladyderyni_173d399f47

I am still seeing the DO deal text without the "30% off" part. It's probably a cache issue, since the deal works correctly for me now, so no need to flag it again @Richard Haseltine. Thanks.

Richard Haseltine

Yes, I was just coming back to say it seemed fixed.

Elor

Kwel is not priced as a Golden Ticket:

https://www.daz3d.com/kwel-hd-for-genesis-9

The extra 30% on the 31k items seems to be working, but a question: is it on top of the golden ticket 30% or a replacement?

Testing it, it seems to be the later: I added another Golden Ticket to my cart, and there was no difference between a cart with that Golden Ticket only and one with both that Golden Ticket and Kwel, and the discount on the item from the 31k selection didn't change.

doubledeviant

https://www.daz3d.com/kwel-hd-for-genesis-9

is being advertised as the Golden Ticket item today but has normal new release pricing instead.

Cris Palomino

Elor said:

Kwel is not priced as a Golden Ticket:

https://www.daz3d.com/kwel-hd-for-genesis-9

The extra 30% on the 31k items seems to be working, but a question: is it on top of the golden ticket 30% or a replacement?

Testing it, it seems to be the later: I added another Golden Ticket to my cart, and there was no difference between a cart with that Golden Ticket only and one with both that Golden Ticket and Kwel, and the discount on the item from the 31k selection didn't change.

 Reported

Elor

Kwel's price is fixed, thank you :)

Cris Palomino

Goldent ticket is fixed.

Shimrian

I can no longer get to the sales page from forums. My history for Daz always brings me to forums first, and if I want to shop or see the new items in the store, I used the click on sales in the top left corner. Now there is a hamburger menu left of the big orange ai search button, but pressing it just grays out the page (overlay), and nothing appears. I'm on an iPad using chrome. I also tried Firefox and that doesn't work either. 

xyer0

Real smart implementing a website change on Friday. Especially since you have a perfect record of cocking up website changes.

SilverGirl

Shimrian said:

I can no longer get to the sales page from forums. My history for Daz always brings me to forums first, and if I want to shop or see the new items in the store, I used the click on sales in the top left corner. Now there is a hamburger menu left of the big orange ai search button, but pressing it just grays out the page (overlay), and nothing appears. I'm on an iPad using chrome. I also tried Firefox and that doesn't work either. 

On both iPad Brave and Win11 Chrome it does this for me as well, from any page (not just the forum), if I need to navigate by hamburger.

On Win11 Chrome, if the browser is taking up the whole screen and the banner shows the shop/3D Software/etc., clicking them works fine.

miladyderyni_173d399f47

The 31,000 Items deal, isn't working. Example cart with Monster Mashup Pro doesn't discount at all when in cart solo or with a Still New. It should be additional 50% off alone or 60% with Still or Debut New. Discount also appears incorrect with Golden Ticket Kwel

Richard Haseltine

miladyderyni_173d399f47 said:

The 31,000 Items deal, isn't working. Example cart with Monster Mashup Pro doesn't discount at all when in cart solo or with a Still New. It should be additional 50% off alone or 60% with Still or Debut New. Discount also appears incorrect with Golden Ticket Kwel

Which offer is this?

barbult

Richard Haseltine said:

miladyderyni_173d399f47 said:

The 31,000 Items deal, isn't working. Example cart with Monster Mashup Pro doesn't discount at all when in cart solo or with a Still New. It should be additional 50% off alone or 60% with Still or Debut New. Discount also appears incorrect with Golden Ticket Kwel

Which offer is this?

I suppose it is this. 

Richard Haseltine

Ah, I see - thanks.

The items are 50% off already, that becomes 60% off for me if I add a stil new, 72% (30% off the remaining 40% is another 12% of base price, making 72% in total) with the character added. That is with PA items, if you are a Daz+/Premier member there will be an additional discount on Daz originals like Monster mash.

AZDigitalArtist

WONDERFUL-30 is coming up coupon invalid

barbult

Richard Haseltine said:

Ah, I see - thanks.

The items are 50% off already, that becomes 60% off for me if I add a stil new, 72% (30% off the remaining 40% is another 12% of base price, making 72% in total) with the character added. That is with PA items, if you are a Daz+/Premier member there will be an additional discount on Daz originals like Monster mash.

That doesn't make sense to me. The advertisement says 50% off ONE. If they are ALL aready 50%, what does the ONE in the advertisement mean? 

Richard Haseltine

barbult said:

Richard Haseltine said:

Ah, I see - thanks.

The items are 50% off already, that becomes 60% off for me if I add a stil new, 72% (30% off the remaining 40% is another 12% of base price, making 72% in total) with the character added. That is with PA items, if you are a Daz+/Premier member there will be an additional discount on Daz originals like Monster mash.

That doesn't make sense to me. The advertisement says 50% off ONE. If they are ALL aready 50%, what does the ONE in the advertisement mean? 

I don'ty know, but when I tried with two both got the discounts, as far as I could see.

Elor

In the Today Special section, the Extra 30% is said to be for owning or buying Kwel, but the link is sending to headliner 1, which is the FeSoul's hair released today:

From what I tested, Kwel is not triggering the Extra 30% discount while the hair does, so my guess is that the text is wrong and should be about the dForce Strand-Based FE Bubble Braids Hair for Genesis 9 and not Kwel.

Cris Palomino

Elor said:

In the Today Special section, the Extra 30% is said to be for owning or buying Kwel, but the link is sending to headliner 1, which is the FeSoul's hair released today:

From what I tested, Kwel is not triggering the Extra 30% discount while the hair does, so my guess is that the text is wrong and should be about the dForce Strand-Based FE Bubble Braids Hair for Genesis 9 and not Kwel.

Being looked into. The first two are a pair and pertain to a single wonderful-weekend item. The last gives you the discount on the GT. 

SilverGirl

SilverGirl said:

Shimrian said:

I can no longer get to the sales page from forums. My history for Daz always brings me to forums first, and if I want to shop or see the new items in the store, I used the click on sales in the top left corner. Now there is a hamburger menu left of the big orange ai search button, but pressing it just grays out the page (overlay), and nothing appears. I'm on an iPad using chrome. I also tried Firefox and that doesn't work either. 

On both iPad Brave and Win11 Chrome it does this for me as well, from any page (not just the forum), if I need to navigate by hamburger.

On Win11 Chrome, if the browser is taking up the whole screen and the banner shows the shop/3D Software/etc., clicking them works fine.

Discovered a strange workaround: on iPad, this issue is apparently only on landscape orientation, in portrait, it works fine.