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  • barbultbarbult Posts: 26,163

    @DestinysGarden @Lyrra Madril Those explanations help a lot. You might want to try to clarify things in the product descriptions, if you can, because future customers won't know to look here for the additional information.
    I think the bundle will go into my cart today, even though I don't own the flashback outfit and will probably never buy it. I now understand that it is not 100% required for the other products. Thanks again for coming here to clarify things.

  • No worries at all. Thanks for your understanding and support. Cheers!

  • Its hard to describe a new idea sometimes.  I had a few people read over the descriptions and they seemed to get it, But then everyone has a differrent perspective.  I know I confused DestinysGarden when I approached her to work on this project at first. So I'm glad to get any feedback of what exactly all of you found confusing about the product descriptions. 

    We do our best to jam a whole lot of information clearly into a small page, and make useful pictures to illustrate the product in use and it's difficult lol

    Lyrra

     

  • barbultbarbult Posts: 26,163

    DestinysGarden said:

    No worries at all. Thanks for your understanding and support. Cheers!

    My first attempt. (It probably doesn't belong in this thread, but I put it here for consistency with the discussion.) 

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  • Robert FreiseRobert Freise Posts: 4,572

    Reminds me of someone I met many, many years ago

  • barbultbarbult Posts: 26,163
    edited September 10

    Lyrra Madril said:

    Its hard to describe a new idea sometimes.  I had a few people read over the descriptions and they seemed to get it, But then everyone has a differrent perspective.  I know I confused DestinysGarden when I approached her to work on this project at first. So I'm glad to get any feedback of what exactly all of you found confusing about the product descriptions. 

    We do our best to jam a whole lot of information clearly into a small page, and make useful pictures to illustrate the product in use and it's difficult lol

    Lyrra

    For example, when I look at a new product, first I look at the product title. Then I look at the main product promo. Then I look at the required items and see if I own them. THEN if I am interested, I read the product description text and What's Included. So, I was interested in MatchMakers 10 in 1 Casual Wardrobe Texture Expansion .

    • In this case, the product title told me it was a texture expansion for 10-in-1 Casual Wardrobe; great, I own that.
    • But, the main promo shows a bunch of stuff that is not included in 10-in-1 Casual Wardrobe; that looks wrong.
    • Wait a second, the list of required items contains a bunch of stuff that has nothing to do with 10-in-1 Casual Wardrobe; we all know Daz sometimes screws up the list of required items; this must be another error.
    • Oh, I see, there is a bundle available; I assume these apparent promo image and required items lists must be errors, putting bundle promos and required items for the whole bundle into the individual add-on products. 

    I move on to the product description to see what that says:

    • The first paragraph says:

    atchMakers 10 in 1 Casual Wardrobe Texture Expansion Expand the possibilities of the MatchMakers Shader System Volume 1 with this texture expansion for the 10-in-1 Casual Wardrobe for Genesis 9 by Outoftouch. This texture expansion includes multiple fabric bases for each clothing item, including jersey, leather, lace, knit mesh, and more.

     OK, there is a little typo there with a missing M on the first word. No problem, I know what it means. This paragraph confirms that this product is, as the title says, a texture expansion for 10 in 1 Casual Wardrobe, using the shaders in the MatchMaker Shader System. So that explains why the MatchMaker Shader System is required. And the word MatchMaker is in the product title, so that part is coming together in my mind now.

    • The second paragraph strengthens the association of the MatchMaker Shader System with this texture expansion. 
    • The third paragraph talks about "Five mix-and-match outfits have been assembled, and each outfit has an Hmat to color it for each of the seven color families." Since this product is a texture expansion for 10-in-1 Casual Wardrobe, one can logically conclude that the five outfits are assembled from a mix and match of the individual garments in 10-in-1 Casual Wardrobe. I think, however after the further discussion in this thread, that logical conclusion is not true, and in fact that the five outfits are assembled from 10-in1 Casual Wardrobe garments AND garments from other products. That certainly was not clear to me by the end of the third paragraph. Calling it a texture expansion for one product when it also has expansion textures for other products seems quite misleading to me. That set up the whole cascading confusion.
    • Now the fourth paragraph says "This first wave of texture expansions covers three clothing sets - the 10 in 1 Casual Wardrobe, the Genesis 9 Basicwear you already have that came with Genesis 9, and the Flashback Suit." Ok, yes, this confirms that today three texture expansions were released, and each one is for a different product. The three products are listed. This makes sense; to me it means three expansion set, one for each wardrobe product, just like the titles say. But then the next sentence in paragraph four says "So each outfit uses items from two of these sets to really expand your wardrobe possibilities." This is the first clue that something unusual is going on - either that, or text from the bundle has been incorrectly placed here in the individual product description, because everything up to this point has clearly (to me) been aimed at the single product (10-in-1 Casual Wardrobe) listed in the title. Now it talks about outfits using items from two of the three sets.
    • The last paragraph says "As we all know, not all clothing items fit each other well, so great care has been taken to include fit morphs to layer all items in all three sets with each other." The previous paragraph talked about outfits using two sets. Now this paragraph talks about layering all three sets. 

    At that point I gave up in total confusion and frustration, and I posted in the forum that this makes no sense. I assumed at that point that Daz has mixed up requirements and product description text and made a big mess, like they do when they take a single PA product and split it into parts, then put it back together and call it a bundle.

    I wouldn't have purchased the bundle or any of the individual products without the additional explanation here in the forum. The whole concept of mixing garments from different products and retexturing them to coordinate needs to be made clear in the beginning. I think that would have solved 90% of the problem. You may think that was clear, but to me it was not at all clear. I know others who had the same confusion.

    By the way, there is some pokethrough in the promo images that bring the careful layering into question. You might want to check and correct them.

     

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  • barbultbarbult Posts: 26,163

    Robert Freise said:

    Reminds me of someone I met many, many years ago

    I'm sorry to hear that! laugh 

  • ok so I can see some of the confusion.

    All the outfits were built with items from 2 out of the 3 sets. None use all 3.  Thats hard to explain lol

    ok, thats something I can work on phrasing better

    LM

  • SilverGirlSilverGirl Posts: 2,781

    Lyrra Madril said:

    ok so I can see some of the confusion.

    All the outfits were built with items from 2 out of the 3 sets. None use all 3.  Thats hard to explain lol

    ok, thats something I can work on phrasing better

    LM

    Have you considered labeled pictures? I get that it's really hard to explain a whole new method of doing things in a way everyone will understand, especially when you consider English isn't the first language of all of your customers. It's mine, but my eyes kind of crossed as I was trying to assimilate it all, so I can only imagine what it would be like if it wasn't, especially when you're using technical or semi-technical terms. Having a picture demonstrate what you're talking about right next to the text might go a long way. You do it in one panel of the 10-in-1 where you're showing how to apply it, could you do more like that? Even having clear labels like "X Clothing Set Textures" or "outfit combination requires items from Y Clothing Set" might go a long way. At a first glance at the 10-in-1 set, I was trying to figure out if the textures made use of some funky opacity maps to make it look like a different item.

    I do like the concept of helping make more items mix-and-match between sets! And definitely artists should work with and on what inspires them as far as which sets and how those sets mix. I personally have zero interest in the Flashback suit, though, so I'd feel like I was paying for stuff I'd never use. (I will also admit I'm not the target demographic for the vast majority of what's in the Daz store, so take that with whatever sized grain of salt you think it deserves.)

    Also a sustainability thought.... when you're writing your descriptions for what is included or what works with what, imagine a customer finding your (hopefully large and successful!) catalog three years from now. How overwhelmed are they going to be decyphering what goes with what, and what is meant by "first wave/second wave" etc? Perhaps you've already planned it, but you might want to write each description as if it's the customer's first time encountering your product, as someone who comes in new is going to likely click on the latest release and not have the background of everything that came before it.

     

  • danmast94danmast94 Posts: 131

    The extra 30% for owning a Golden Ticket doesn't seem to be working in the "Build Your Own Flash Sale". I own the Scarlet Valkyrie Armor but only see a flat 70% (or 75% for wishlist items) when I add to cart. If I go and add either of the other 2 Golden Tickets to the cart, then I see the 30% discount being applied

  • Cris PalominoCris Palomino Posts: 12,440

    I have bought most of the previous day's golden tickets and have the new one in the cart. When I put in an item from BYOFS that has no initial discount, 30% comes off; with the debut item in my cart, it went up to 79%. I don't have wishlisted items, so can't check that on my end. Can you show me a cart and I'll try to build the same one?

  • danmast94danmast94 Posts: 131
    edited September 10

    Cris Palomino said:

    I have bought most of the previous day's golden tickets and have the new one in the cart. When I put in an item from BYOFS that has no initial discount, 30% comes off; with the debut item in my cart, it went up to 79%. I don't have wishlisted items, so can't check that on my end. Can you show me a cart and I'll try to build the same one?

     Attached a cart with one BYOFS that isn't in my wishlist (70%) and one that is (75%). When I didn't have the debut item in there, there was no discount at all. But you can see that I do own a Golden Ticket because I am getting the 30% discount added to the Debut New Release (45% + 30% = 62%).

    You said in your message that you have the new GT in your cart, but that shouldn't be necessary for the discount because it is "Own or Buy" for BYOFS.

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  • Cris PalominoCris Palomino Posts: 12,440

    danmast94 said:

    Cris Palomino said:

    I have bought most of the previous day's golden tickets and have the new one in the cart. When I put in an item from BYOFS that has no initial discount, 30% comes off; with the debut item in my cart, it went up to 79%. I don't have wishlisted items, so can't check that on my end. Can you show me a cart and I'll try to build the same one?

     Attached a cart with one BYOFS that isn't in my wishlist (70%) and one that is (75%). When I didn't have the debut item in there, there was no discount at all. But you can see that I do own a Golden Ticket because I am getting the 30% discount added to the Debut New Release (45% + 30% = 62%).

    You said in your message that you have the new GT in your cart, but that shouldn't be necessary for the discount because it is "Own or Buy" for BYOFS.

    I sent in a report on this. 

  • Cris PalominoCris Palomino Posts: 12,440

    The 30% for having a GT should work now. The other as the text states, requires a debut.

  • DartanbeckDartanbeck Posts: 21,937
    edited September 10

    It says "Own or Buy and Golden Ticket Item"

    I've purchased several so far but the 30% only shows if I toss another GT item in the cart

    (Trying to purchace a Debut New Release)

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  • barbultbarbult Posts: 26,163

    Dartanbeck said:

    It says "Own or Buy and Golden Ticket Item"

    I've purchased several so far but the 30% only shows if I toss another GT item in the cart

    (Trying to purchace a Debut New Release)

    It is not stated on the sale page, but "own" only works for the three golden ticket items currently shown on the sale page. Any purchased earlier, no longer count.  

  • AinmAinm Posts: 711

      Anyone checked out recently? Transactions seem to be failing on the Daz side for me (but being charged 4 times on my card per attempt).

  • AinmAinm Posts: 711

    Ainm said:

      Anyone checked out recently? Transactions seem to be failing on the Daz side for me (but being charged 4 times on my card per attempt).

    I checked out using store credit instead and that worked.

  • ElorElor Posts: 3,138
    edited September 11

    https://www.daz3d.com/2025-published-artist-sale#headlining

    I'm not sure the 40% is working as intented. Currently, only Magic Brush has a 40% discount on their items, the other do not so I suspect Magic Brush is getting it from selling a Golden Ticket:

    And the extra 10% for having both Golden Tickets from today is applied with only one of them in the cart when the text is saying we must have both in our cart (Extra 10% off Your Cart when you include both MB Thandey HD for Genesis 9 Feminine and My Mystical Forest):

     

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  • Cris PalominoCris Palomino Posts: 12,440

    Elor said:

    https://www.daz3d.com/2025-published-artist-sale#headlining

    I'm not sure the 40% is working as intented. Currently, only Magic Brush has a 40% discount on their items, the other do not so I suspect Magic Brush is getting it from selling a Golden Ticket:

    And the extra 10% for having both Golden Tickets from today is applied with only one of them in the cart when the text is saying we must have both in our cart (Extra 10% off Your Cart when you include both MB Thandey HD for Genesis 9 Feminine and My Mystical Forest):

     

    Have sent in a report. 

  • ElorElor Posts: 3,138

    Thank you, and from what I can see, both are now working as written (so 40% extra on items from the artists named, and 10% for having both Golden Tickets in the cart).

  • UnseenUnseen Posts: 757

    The 10% off the cart apply when I put today's two golden tickets (MB Thandey and Jefferson AF's My Mystical Forets) in the cart  but not if I want to buy the Thandey bundle. I don't want to buy the same character twice... I hope something can be done about that.

  • Cris PalominoCris Palomino Posts: 12,440
    edited September 11

    Unseen said:

    The 10% off the cart apply when I put today's two golden tickets (MB Thandey and Jefferson AF's My Mystical Forets) in the cart  but not if I want to buy the Thandey bundle. I don't want to buy the same character twice... I hope something can be done about that.

    I had planned on getting the GT and the bundle, so bought the GT first and then bought the bundle and it discounted the bundle for the part owned. I am sending a report to daz to show them this and see if they plan to keep it this way. 

    edit: so I also added the second GT which should have resulted in an extra 10% but I think it's tied to a rule requiring both GTs be in the cart, so will bring this to their attention as well.

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  • UnseenUnseen Posts: 757
    edited September 11

    Thank you very much, Chris! I will proceed that way if the it's not possible differently. :)

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  • Cris PalominoCris Palomino Posts: 12,440
    edited September 11

    Unseen said:

    Thank you very much, Chris! I will proceed that way if the it's not possible differently. :)

    You might wait till Daz gets in for business hours. We'll notify the thread. 

    Edit: you can always put in a ticket afterward as well.

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  • UnseenUnseen Posts: 757

    That's what I am going to do. Anyway, thank you for your help and efforts! :)

  • I have tried to use today coupon with the Thandey HD for Genesis 9 Character Bundle, it does not work.

    I wanted to buy the bundle instead of the single item featured as the Golden Ticket Item, otherwise, I will not buy anything today.

    So please, make it possible to have this for a better price.

    Also, I own items from some of the artists that worked into the bundle.so there are no discounts in the cart sad

     

  • LeanaLeana Posts: 12,735

    Halcon Bluesky said:

    I have tried to use today coupon with the Thandey HD for Genesis 9 Character Bundle, it does not work.

    Which coupon? I've not seen any daily coupon supposed to work on new items. The "30 Gives you 30" banner coupons work only on the featured artists stores.

    I wanted to buy the bundle instead of the single item featured as the Golden Ticket Item, otherwise, I will not buy anything today.

    Buy the golden ticket item first, then buy the bundle. You'll get a discount for owning one of the items of the bundle, as well as the discount for owning a golden ticket item.

  • Leana said:

    Halcon Bluesky said:

    I have tried to use today coupon with the Thandey HD for Genesis 9 Character Bundle, it does not work.

    Which coupon? I've not seen any daily coupon supposed to work on new items. The "30 Gives you 30" banner coupons work only on the featured artists stores.

    I wanted to buy the bundle instead of the single item featured as the Golden Ticket Item, otherwise, I will not buy anything today.

    Buy the golden ticket item first, then buy the bundle. You'll get a discount for owning one of the items of the bundle, as well as the discount for owning a golden ticket item.

    @Halcon Bluesky might be referring to the Premier Free Character Bundle code. If so, the Thandey bundle isn't in https://www.daz3d.com/premier-characters. It might be added later today after Daz staff arrive, as with last week's Uksn bundle.

  • barbultbarbult Posts: 26,163
    edited September 11

    Too much cut and paste; too little correction for the current offer.
    Thandey is neither Bishop 9 nor Uksn. The worse problem is that the SHOP THE BUNDLE button goes to Uksn bundle instead of Thandey bundle. If a customer is not wathcing carefully, they may purchase the wrongly linked product. The SHOP BISHOP 9 hover-over tip text is just a confusing visual error. 

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