Gianni 7

Toyen

lx Cory was just really really ugly.

He looks like a rumpelstiltskin or some kind of goblin to me.

Luckily, this character  - http://www.daz3d.com/rick-for-cory-6 looks exactly what the male conuterpart for The Girl/Callie should look like in my opinion : )

lx_2807502

Okay yeah Cory's base model does look rather ... unfortunate. The PA models of him are quite nice though.

Nosiferret

While I will end up getting Gianni 7....I have to say he looks like a wet behind the ears wimp. He looks like Gianni 6's little baby brother who is hiding in his older brothers shadow. Where is the straping muscle tone in 7 that is in 6? Where is that confident don't mess with me look that 6 has that 7  does not. Gianni 7 looks like I can do the same with Mike7 with a little bit of muscle dialed in and I'll save 50 bucks. Gianni 7 and Leo 7 almost look like twins to me. So far all the G3M's appear skinny, same muscle frame and shape. The G2M's seemed to offer more of a difference in character appearance, when you line up all the 2's there is a pretty wide difference in their appearance. Line up the 7s and it seems like they all have the same mom and dad. Seems like DAZ is like lets take Mike 7...lets make his eyelashes thicker and call him John 7 and people will buy him! Next we'll give him a little bit more ab shape and call him Victor 7....the male 7 line up is lacking the creative touch.....While I started this message that I will end up getting Gianni 7....I think I might have talked myself out it and just pick up the scifi suit. Even the hairs are the same, just a few wisps of hair flipped over and it's new. Rather sad and tacky sales tactics imo. And those higher up wonder why male figures just don't sell as well.....

lx_2807502

Nosiferret said:

While I will end up getting Gianni 7....I have to say he looks like a wet behind the ears wimp. He looks like Gianni 6's little baby brother who is hiding in his older brothers shadow. Where is the straping muscle tone in 7 that is in 6? Where is that confident don't mess with me look that 6 has that 7  does not. Gianni 7 looks like I can do the same with Mike7 with a little bit of muscle dialed in and I'll save 50 bucks. Gianni 7 and Leo 7 almost look like twins to me. So far all the G3M's appear skinny, same muscle frame and shape. The G2M's seemed to offer more of a difference in character appearance, when you line up all the 2's there is a pretty wide difference in their appearance. Line up the 7s and it seems like they all have the same mom and dad. Seems like DAZ is like lets take Mike 7...lets make his eyelashes thicker and call him John 7 and people will buy him! Next we'll give him a little bit more ab shape and call him Victor 7....the male 7 line up is lacking the creative touch.....While I started this message that I will end up getting Gianni 7....I think I might have talked myself out it and just pick up the scifi suit. Even the hairs are the same, just a few wisps of hair flipped over and it's new. Rather sad and tacky sales tactics imo. And those higher up wonder why male figures just don't sell as well.....

It's not just the males. The Genesis 3 Victoria I mean Female lineup also has quite a lot of issues in that area (not all of them but many.)

j cade

Toyen said:

lx Cory was just really really ugly.

He looks like a rumpelstiltskin or some kind of goblin to me.

Luckily, this character  - http://www.daz3d.com/rick-for-cory-6 looks exactly what the male conuterpart for The Girl/Callie should look like in my opinion : )

He looked like Toon Jimmy Cagney to me, and as it turns out Jimmy Cagney doesnt make a good toon.

lx_2807502

Toyen said:

Here is a quick reality render.

Do not take it as seriously as the Iray render though. There are way too many adjustments/enhancements you can make to the image from inside the renderer without calling it post-work so it's not as authentic represenation of the product as the Iray render.

So I played with the film and color response in lux to get the picture I wanted : )

Very minor post-work on the lips, I adjusted the color a bit since they were too pink by default and I did not feel like going back to DS to change the material there.

I'm just quoting this again because if this had been the box art I would have bought him before I'd realised what I was doing.

Havos

M7 was a slightly slimmer version of M6, so perhaps it is not surprising that Gianni 7 was less built the 6 was. A number of people critised DAZ for base figures that where too tall, and remote from more "real world" bodies, and maybe they took note

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Havos said:

M7 was a slightly slimmer version of M6, so perhaps it is not surprising that Gianni 7 was less built the 6 was. A number of people critised DAZ for base figures that where too tall, and remote from more "real world" bodies, and maybe they took note

If only they'd do that with the females too. The problem with making the males look normal is that the females are all muscle-bound superstars that are very nearly as tall as them.

Serene Night

lx said:

I'm so confused about the whole Cory thing. I mean .. he didn't have a full bundle or anything but people talk about him like some sort of secret monstrosity and he just doesn't seem that? At least there was finally a toon to mirror Callie/Girl?

he was pretty bad. More like a caveman character. Plus he was also a teen.  His bundle was pretty weak too

 

j cade

I've figured out why I like Gianni 7 so much.

 

His build reminds me of the Boxer at Rest, and a lot of greek statues actually in terms of proportions Thats the thing he has in common with davis they lack the bodybuilder/superhero "T" ideal that pretty much all the other Daz lads have (and is a PITA to get rid of)

Serene Night

I really like Gianni. I do wish the store would make more appealing promo art. Gen 6 had much better and less garish  and more useful promos than than Gen 7.

lx_2807502

Serene Night said:

I really like Gianni. I do wish the store would make more appealing promo art. Gen 6 had much better and less garish  and more useful promos than than Gen 7.

Every time a new character is released, everyone says in the thread that they hate the promo art and can't make purchasing decisions based off it and then someone buys the character anyway and posts some renders and they look amazing.

Then someone from Daz tends to tell us that we don't know what we're talking about and the promos have to be the way they are to sell and that there is no way to have a single shot in the series of images that shows us the model in plain lighting, or even all of the available options.

I feel like there's some sort of pattern going on here.

Sorel

Actually i like a lot of the recent promos, where they put the model in an actual scene.

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Sorel said:

Actually i like a lot of the recent promos, where they put the model in an actual scene.

Leo's promos weren't bad but then he turned out to have no eye or skin options at all. Michael and Gianni looked super pasty and tiny until someone actually bought them and posted them on the forums which revealed them to look completely different and much more reasonable.

gypsyangel

jakiblue said:

Dammit Toyen! I'd been sitting here thinking how BORED I was with all the new G3 models, and that I disliked Gianni cos he was waaaaaaaaay pale and looked DULL. Then you had to go post this render. :sigh: I'm taking a second look at him now.  

Toyen said:

Izabella and her prince charming is a MUST! : ) Or, maybe we could finally get an ethnic duo, that would make me very happy : )

Anyways, here is a quick render. Very well done Daz! I like him even more than M7 : )

Several morph sliders were adjusted to make him a bit bigger : )

I really wish there were some sort of flex JCMs, I tried to put him into a muscle flex pose, but it just does not look right since the muscle isn't really there : D

Also for the skin in the promos, it's just the strong enviroment lighting there which makes the skin look more pale.

My scene is rather dark with neutral lights so you can see his skin is rather nice looking. I'm glad the trend of fake spray tans seems to be going away : )

 

 

 

 

Yeah, and my entry into the Gianni 7 hasn't hit the store yet... should be soon, though. He's already passed testing...

 

gypsyangel

Toyen said:

lx Cory was just really really ugly.

He looks like a rumpelstiltskin or some kind of goblin to me.

Luckily, this character  - http://www.daz3d.com/rick-for-cory-6 looks exactly what the male conuterpart for The Girl/Callie should look like in my opinion : )

Thank you!!! :D

zombietaggerung

gypsyangel said:

jakiblue said:

Dammit Toyen! I'd been sitting here thinking how BORED I was with all the new G3 models, and that I disliked Gianni cos he was waaaaaaaaay pale and looked DULL. Then you had to go post this render. :sigh: I'm taking a second look at him now.  

Toyen said:

Izabella and her prince charming is a MUST! : ) Or, maybe we could finally get an ethnic duo, that would make me very happy : )

Anyways, here is a quick render. Very well done Daz! I like him even more than M7 : )

Several morph sliders were adjusted to make him a bit bigger : )

I really wish there were some sort of flex JCMs, I tried to put him into a muscle flex pose, but it just does not look right since the muscle isn't really there : D

Also for the skin in the promos, it's just the strong enviroment lighting there which makes the skin look more pale.

My scene is rather dark with neutral lights so you can see his skin is rather nice looking. I'm glad the trend of fake spray tans seems to be going away : )

 

 

 

 

Yeah, and my entry into the Gianni 7 hasn't hit the store yet... should be soon, though. He's already passed testing...

 

Yeah, I saw these over on FB. And I have to say, I may just get the Gianni base just to use this texture and morph. He is gorgeous!!

gypsyangel

Sorel said:

Toyen said:

Here are 2 quick portraits. First Iray, no post-work. Second Octane plugin demo, no post-work.

With the Octane plugin however, the polygons are showing up in the render even though all surfaces are set to "Smooth".

 

 

Come one guys! Let me see your Gianni renders! : )

 

OK... :D

 

gypsyangel

zombie_taggerung said:

gypsyangel said:

jakiblue said:

Dammit Toyen! I'd been sitting here thinking how BORED I was with all the new G3 models, and that I disliked Gianni cos he was waaaaaaaaay pale and looked DULL. Then you had to go post this render. :sigh: I'm taking a second look at him now.  

Toyen said:

Izabella and her prince charming is a MUST! : ) Or, maybe we could finally get an ethnic duo, that would make me very happy : )

Anyways, here is a quick render. Very well done Daz! I like him even more than M7 : )

Several morph sliders were adjusted to make him a bit bigger : )

I really wish there were some sort of flex JCMs, I tried to put him into a muscle flex pose, but it just does not look right since the muscle isn't really there : D

Also for the skin in the promos, it's just the strong enviroment lighting there which makes the skin look more pale.

My scene is rather dark with neutral lights so you can see his skin is rather nice looking. I'm glad the trend of fake spray tans seems to be going away : )

 

 

 

 

Yeah, and my entry into the Gianni 7 hasn't hit the store yet... should be soon, though. He's already passed testing...

 

Yeah, I saw these over on FB. And I have to say, I may just get the Gianni base just to use this texture and morph. He is gorgeous!!

Why, thank you!!! :D I think he came out pretty good... :D

j cade

Nosiferret said:

While I will end up getting Gianni 7....I have to say he looks like a wet behind the ears wimp. He looks like Gianni 6's little baby brother who is hiding in his older brothers shadow. Where is the straping muscle tone in 7 that is in 6? Where is that confident don't mess with me look that 6 has that 7  does not. Gianni 7 looks like I can do the same with Mike7 with a little bit of muscle dialed in and I'll save 50 bucks. Gianni 7 and Leo 7 almost look like twins to me. So far all the G3M's appear skinny, same muscle frame and shape. The G2M's seemed to offer more of a difference in character appearance, when you line up all the 2's there is a pretty wide difference in their appearance. Line up the 7s and it seems like they all have the same mom and dad. Seems like DAZ is like lets take Mike 7...lets make his eyelashes thicker and call him John 7 and people will buy him! Next we'll give him a little bit more ab shape and call him Victor 7....the male 7 line up is lacking the creative touch.....While I started this message that I will end up getting Gianni 7....I think I might have talked myself out it and just pick up the scifi suit. Even the hairs are the same, just a few wisps of hair flipped over and it's new. Rather sad and tacky sales tactics imo. And those higher up wonder why male figures just don't sell as well.....

I think he can take him personally, 6 looks like a bodybuilder, 7 looks like an athlete.

 

Pardon for the kind of crappy materials on 6

Ken OBanion

Toyen said:

Here are 2 quick portraits. First Iray, no post-work. Second Octane plugin demo, no post-work.

With the Octane plugin however, the polygons are showing up in the render even though all surfaces are set to "Smooth".

Come one guys! Let me see your Gianni renders! : )

Please, pay a bit more attention to the eyes, because that's just a tiddly-bit..., creepy!

riftwitch

Superdog said:

vwrangler said:

evilded777 said:

Shouldn't that be: "I don't like men with too many muscles."?

There should have been a David 6. We got shafted.

I will just note that if Daz responded in a snit, "I didn't make him for YOU," there would be at the least a conflict of interest!

We didn't get a David 6 because David 5 tanked. Of course, David 5 tanked because he was released one month before the release of Genesis 2 and everyone knew it was coming, nobody knew what that meant, and nobody wanted to commit to the last figure of a generation that soon before the next. Add in the lower market for male stuff generally, and David was pretty comprehensively doomed.

There was so much antici......pation of G2 that poor David wasn't given much horsebrutality from the fans.

I can't think of any bad jokes to continue this line of thought, but I wonder if there's any RHPS-inspired clothing out there for the DAZ figures? I haven't seen any, but there's so much stuff out there, I could easily miss it.

 

SpyroRue

Why has Gianni and Gia returned all pale? the two of them offered more than just a body type last time. They look nothing like they used to. Its disappointing for me because those two were among my most favourite daz characters. They were so unique and memorable in generation 6! but now all that stands out to me is a reused name :(

lx_2807502

SpyroRue said:

Why has Gianni and Gia returned all pale? the two of them offered more than just a body type last time. They look nothing like they used to. Its disappointing for me because those two were among my most favourite daz characters. They were so unique and memorable in generation 6! but now all that stands out to me is a reused name :(

a. It's mostly just the promo renders, and you can make them however pale or not you like anyway by adjusting the shaders.

b. Every other Genesis 3 model is made of tanned newsreader leather and everyone complained about it endlessly.

caravelle

Gogger said:

I really like the EXO Suit so that got my attention straight away and with all my discounts applied I couldn't pass it up. Here's my first render with him and I am happy!  

Render details: DAZ Studio 4.9, Iray (about a half hour, with a little more to go, but stopped early) using OOT Dramatic Iray Lights and postworked in Photoshop with a bokeh photograph that I shot the other night of the American Flag in a snowstorm at the Post Office here in town at 1 in the morning.  The beard is the Leandros beard from the Leo 7 bundle.  

Wow, I like this pic, Gogger. Gianni7 looks great with Leandros beard, and the bokeh background is perfect.

 

mrposer

Here is Gianni wearing Stone by Midnight Stories and Fraser hair by AprilYSH.

 

WendyLuvsCatz

lx said:

SpyroRue said:

Why has Gianni and Gia returned all pale? the two of them offered more than just a body type last time. They look nothing like they used to. Its disappointing for me because those two were among my most favourite daz characters. They were so unique and memorable in generation 6! but now all that stands out to me is a reused name :(

a. It's mostly just the promo renders, and you can make them however pale or not you like anyway by adjusting the shaders.

b. Every other Genesis 3 model is made of tanned newsreader leather and everyone complained about it endlessly.

Darkening darkens the whole figure including the palms and soles, it is not that simple or we would not have different textures.

lx_2807502

fool said:

lx said:

SpyroRue said:

Why has Gianni and Gia returned all pale? the two of them offered more than just a body type last time. They look nothing like they used to. Its disappointing for me because those two were among my most favourite daz characters. They were so unique and memorable in generation 6! but now all that stands out to me is a reused name :(

a. It's mostly just the promo renders, and you can make them however pale or not you like anyway by adjusting the shaders.

b. Every other Genesis 3 model is made of tanned newsreader leather and everyone complained about it endlessly.

Darkening darkens the whole figure including the palms and soles, it is not that simple or we would not have different textures.

The palms still get a bit darker when someone has naturally tanned skin; it's not like he's meant to be a pale guy who went to the beach for the day.

evilded777

j cade said:

Nosiferret said:

While I will end up getting Gianni 7....I have to say he looks like a wet behind the ears wimp. He looks like Gianni 6's little baby brother who is hiding in his older brothers shadow. Where is the straping muscle tone in 7 that is in 6? Where is that confident don't mess with me look that 6 has that 7  does not. Gianni 7 looks like I can do the same with Mike7 with a little bit of muscle dialed in and I'll save 50 bucks. Gianni 7 and Leo 7 almost look like twins to me. So far all the G3M's appear skinny, same muscle frame and shape. The G2M's seemed to offer more of a difference in character appearance, when you line up all the 2's there is a pretty wide difference in their appearance. Line up the 7s and it seems like they all have the same mom and dad. Seems like DAZ is like lets take Mike 7...lets make his eyelashes thicker and call him John 7 and people will buy him! Next we'll give him a little bit more ab shape and call him Victor 7....the male 7 line up is lacking the creative touch.....While I started this message that I will end up getting Gianni 7....I think I might have talked myself out it and just pick up the scifi suit. Even the hairs are the same, just a few wisps of hair flipped over and it's new. Rather sad and tacky sales tactics imo. And those higher up wonder why male figures just don't sell as well.....

I think he can take him personally, 6 looks like a bodybuilder, 7 looks like an athlete.

 

Pardon for the kind of crappy materials on 6

Wow.. when you show them side-by-side like that, G7 actually looks a lot beefier than my initial impressions. I've only had a little bit of time with him myself, but... I dig.

ALLIEKATBLUE

OK gypsyangel's character looks totes hot, now thats's what i'm talking 'bout. Sorry for beating a dead horse but gypsyangel please make a black guy.