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  • Phoenix1966Phoenix1966 Posts: 1,920

    Two questions for anyone who might have purchased Old World Ruins Petra Rock

    I know it does not advertise itself as something that can be used close-up, so I was wondering how it did look close-up?

    I can't tell from the angle of the promos if the entrance is really something a character can enter, or if it is only a shallow hole, if that makes sense?

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 109,711

    Doesn't the clay render, second pop-up, pretty much answer that? Admitedly not the depth of the entrance, but it is clear there is no fine detail or true modelled depth to the statuary.

  • SilverGirlSilverGirl Posts: 3,472

    Tarantanamir said:

    https://www.daz3d.com/native-american-tents-2 Can you please not use the playground version. Traditional teepee's housed complete families. This one doesn't even come close. 

    And many don't seem to have anything to cover the entrance, which... even privacy/security aside, given the weather on the plains, you're gonna want that option.

  • Phoenix1966Phoenix1966 Posts: 1,920

    Richard Haseltine said:

    Doesn't the clay render, second pop-up, pretty much answer that? 

    I've been dealing with torn corneas for months now, so my eyesight is not really reliable at the moment. 

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 109,711

    Phoenix1966 said:

    Richard Haseltine said:

    Doesn't the clay render, second pop-up, pretty much answer that? 

    I've been dealing with torn corneas for months now, so my eyesight is not really reliable at the moment. 

    Sorry. No, I think from the promos it is very much a background item - and probably not suitable for dramatic lighting although it should respond a bit to variations in diection.

  • CybersoxCybersox Posts: 9,632

    Tarantanamir said:

    https://www.daz3d.com/native-american-tents-2 Can you please not use the playground version. Traditional teepee's housed complete families. This one doesn't even come close. 

    Historical accuracy?  From a site that sells what is clearly a propeller driven plane under the name "Missing Jet" and "suits of armor" with high heels and open midriffs for maximum belly button exposure?  That said, at least this particular vendor does at least try to cover this niche and one can scale and tweak the textures of these to something that's semi-accurate.  

  • CybersoxCybersox Posts: 9,632
    edited February 1

    Phoenix1966 said:

    Two questions for anyone who might have purchased Old World Ruins Petra Rock

    I know it does not advertise itself as something that can be used close-up, so I was wondering how it did look close-up?

    I can't tell from the angle of the promos if the entrance is really something a character can enter, or if it is only a shallow hole, if that makes sense?

    Given that the rock walls surrounding the structure seem to have almost no texture that even begins to approximate the heavily weathered and fractured appearance of the rocks surrounding the real life location, I think it's safe to say that the answer to how it would look in a close up shot is "terrible unless you're making a toon render."    

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  • Matt_CastleMatt_Castle Posts: 3,102

    joanna said:

    According to the sales representative who answered my ticket, Daz is very strict about their policy in regards of AI use and asks for tickets to be raised if users have concerns about specific products.

    This is what they've said, although I have put in tickets about products where I'm confident there must have been AI usage (I won't name the products or directly point fingers, but don't see how human created textures would end up with misaligned text made up out of gibberish words that have distorted letters that don't exist in any alphabet I'm aware of) to which there has been no response I can tell as far as removal or revision of those products.

    So, to me at least, it feels like Daz is posturing rather than actually taking action about this. Even if they thought I was wrong, it would at least have been appreciated to get a message saying "we've investigated this and do not believe generative content was used", rather than feeling like I've been ignored.

    The thing is, this is actually quite an important matter. Regardless of personal feelings about whether it's right to use AI to generate content, we're still very much in a situation where the legalities of work that uses AI generated content are still being resolved. For anyone who doesn't want to be the canary in the coalmine as far as finding out whether their work's copyright status could be damaged by using AI generated content, I think it's actually a user's right to be openly and honestly informed about whether generative content was used. 

  • NathNath Posts: 3,000

    I do like these items, and they are in my wishlist.

    But:

    SPR Long Sleeve Belted Suit for Genesis 9 | Daz 3D is not a suit

    dForce GN Moonwoven Feather Gauze Dress for Genesis 9, 8.1, and 8 Female | Daz 3D is not a dress

    /grumpy old woman mode OFF

  • mdingmding Posts: 1,764

    Very impressive, again(!):https://www.daz3d.com/fk-sibilant-grace-jewelry-volume-3--hands

    but only wishlisted blush

  • caravellecaravelle Posts: 2,708

    Fabiana has released the hand and finger jewellery from the snake series!  Wonderful, as was to be expected. The idea of letting one snake “crawl” across four fingers is brilliant. And the combination of snake motifs and simple but effective additional jewellery pieces is exactly what the set needs. 

    Forgive me for my unbridled enthusiasm, but in terms of both design and craftsmanship (and presentation), this PA has simply won me over. 

  • joannajoanna Posts: 2,489

    Matt_Castle said:

    joanna said:

    According to the sales representative who answered my ticket, Daz is very strict about their policy in regards of AI use and asks for tickets to be raised if users have concerns about specific products.

    This is what they've said, although I have put in tickets about products where I'm confident there must have been AI usage (I won't name the products or directly point fingers, but don't see how human created textures would end up with misaligned text made up out of gibberish words that have distorted letters that don't exist in any alphabet I'm aware of) to which there has been no response I can tell as far as removal or revision of those products.

    So, to me at least, it feels like Daz is posturing rather than actually taking action about this. Even if they thought I was wrong, it would at least have been appreciated to get a message saying "we've investigated this and do not believe generative content was used", rather than feeling like I've been ignored.

    After the conversation I had with Daz support, I'm with you on that. Until I see Daz actually taking any action and a stance according to their supposed "strict policy," I'll treat it all as smoke screen.

    The thing is, this is actually quite an important matter. Regardless of personal feelings about whether it's right to use AI to generate content, we're still very much in a situation where the legalities of work that uses AI generated content are still being resolved. For anyone who doesn't want to be the canary in the coalmine as far as finding out whether their work's copyright status could be damaged by using AI generated content, I think it's actually a user's right to be openly and honestly informed about whether generative content was used. 

    (bold mine)

    Totally agree. This build trusts, especially that Daz, supposedly, has a strict no-AI policy. I really want to see them act on it. As you said, there are products that aren't just "eh, maybe, but can't tell for sure," but that have very clear and distinct issues with them that are similar to issues seen in AI-generated content. They should at least lead to some sort of an investigation and PAs explaining why their products have them (and only recent ones; their products from pre-gen-AI seem to not have similar errors). There might be some obvious and innocent explanation. But if there isn't, Daz should take some action.

  • jmucchiellojmucchiello Posts: 1,040

    Nath said:

    dForce GN Moonwoven Feather Gauze Dress for Genesis 9, 8.1, and 8 Female | Daz 3D is not a dress

    /grumpy old woman mode OFF

    Then, what is it? A tunic?

  • CybersoxCybersox Posts: 9,632
    edited February 3

    jmucchiello said:

    Nath said:

    dForce GN Moonwoven Feather Gauze Dress for Genesis 9, 8.1, and 8 Female | Daz 3D is not a dress

    /grumpy old woman mode OFF

    Then, what is it? A tunic?

    Maybe, though some might call it an open-front dress, but as short as it is, I think the closest term would be an overskirt.  Update - did some quicj looking around and I'd further specify that it qualifies as a Peplum Overskirt.

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  • NathNath Posts: 3,000
    edited February 3

    Cybersox said:

    jmucchiello said:

    Nath said:

    dForce GN Moonwoven Feather Gauze Dress for Genesis 9, 8.1, and 8 Female | Daz 3D is not a dress

    /grumpy old woman mode OFF

    Then, what is it? A tunic?

    Maybe, though some might call it an open-front dress, but as short as it is, I think the closest term would be an overskirt.  Update - did some quicj looking around and I'd further specify that it qualifies as a Peplum Overskirt.

     I'd possibly call it a top*, and would wear it over something else, and with trousers/shorts.

    *but I'm not a native speaker

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  • memcneil70memcneil70 Posts: 5,711

    I call it a break for my store credit. No sale for me today.

  • Fabiana's Sibilant Jewellery 3, wish I could afford it as real jewllery too. The set is really good as a model, for real, it'd be magnificent. Goes with the rest of the sibilant jewels and I don't think I've seen these bettered anywhere.

    Am I getting old & grumpy? Or maybe I'm there already, but MB Trista just makes me sigh. Nice. But not extra nice. And not really outstanding. Disappointed as I feel with a less stylised face she could be something special.

    Regards,

    Richard

     

  • LeanaLeana Posts: 13,033

    richardandtracy said:

    Fabiana's Sibilant Jewellery 3, wish I could afford it as real jewllery too. The set is really good as a model, for real, it'd be magnificent.

    I'd totally buy a real world version of Fabiana's jewelry sets too. 

  • ArtAngelArtAngel Posts: 2,086

    Matt_Castle said:

    joanna said:

    According to the sales representative who answered my ticket, Daz is very strict about their policy in regards of AI use and asks for tickets to be raised if users have concerns about specific products.

    This is what they've said, although I have put in tickets about products where I'm confident there must have been AI usage (I won't name the products or directly point fingers, but don't see how human created textures would end up with misaligned text made up out of gibberish words that have distorted letters that don't exist in any alphabet I'm aware of) to which there has been no response I can tell as far as removal or revision of those products.

    So, to me at least, it feels like Daz is posturing rather than actually taking action about this. Even if they thought I was wrong, it would at least have been appreciated to get a message saying "we've investigated this and do not believe generative content was used", rather than feeling like I've been ignored.

    The thing is, this is actually quite an important matter. Regardless of personal feelings about whether it's right to use AI to generate content, we're still very much in a situation where the legalities of work that uses AI generated content are still being resolved. For anyone who doesn't want to be the canary in the coalmine as far as finding out whether their work's copyright status could be damaged by using AI generated content, I think it's actually a user's right to be openly and honestly informed about whether generative content was used. 

    ++1 for the comment from MC (highlighted above). I do not like to point fingers either . . . but I have seen other people (posters) specifically call out products as AI, where the poster had enlarged screenshots exposing those areas that reeked of AI, and I really do appreciate those posts. One was for a product I had bought unknowing it was AI generated. I refuse to use AI but I did not return the product because it was a bundle and not all parts were AI. But thanks to the person who posted the info, I am aware and intend to remake the AI textures. The thing is when I or others make a post that is breaking policy it swiftly gets $#@!-canned (and rightfully so). So policy is policy. If it is broken it should be revealed. Some of us buyers (who are inexperienced with AI ) are not as savvy to fine details that are blaring AI sirens that some other more astute shoppers easily recognize. I feel we should share these concerns, post about these AI products with screenshots to support such, so everyone including the PA, QA and DAZ, and most importantly buyers, are bought up to speed. I hate returning crap and suspect customer services does not love the extra workload of returns. Exposing such saves a lot of wasted work for everyone. Because of the policy I trust everything I buy is non-AI because well that is the policy and terms I buy under. Returns are never a time saver, profitable or fun for anyone. Exposing such would A: enlighten the PA (and buyers) allow the PA a chance to respond hopefully to fix the product with an update . . . or pull it from the store . . .

  • LorraineLorraine Posts: 963

    Wow! There are seven prop and environment sets in today's releases, SEVEN!! Outnumbering the characters, poses and clothes. Three of them into my wishlist...Stonemason's two sets and sugatak's town. Thank you to all the PA's :)

  • HavosHavos Posts: 5,640

    I also wish listed 6 products today, which is the most for one day in a long time.

  • LeanaLeana Posts: 13,033

    Artini said:

    I like:
    https://www.daz3d.com/ancient-water-town-in-shanghai
    Great, that sugatak is publishing again.

    Yes it's nice to see a new product from them, and that set looks great too.

    These are also great:
    https://www.daz3d.com/the-classical-gardens
    https://www.daz3d.com/a-classical-courtyard

    Yes, those are definitely going into my cart. 

  • memcneil70memcneil70 Posts: 5,711

    Leana said:

    Artini said:

    I like:
    https://www.daz3d.com/ancient-water-town-in-shanghai
    Great, that sugatak is publishing again.

    Yes it's nice to see a new product from them, and that set looks great too.

    These are also great:
    https://www.daz3d.com/the-classical-gardens
    https://www.daz3d.com/a-classical-courtyard

    Yes, those are definitely going into my cart. 

    All three went into my cart right away, but with 6 tokens, that was over $60. and I also wishlisted three other products for later. So I put the Sugatek set back along with:

    https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-chinese-villager-outfit-for-genesis-9 which will go with her (?) recent character I bought https://www.daz3d.com/lala-dongmei-hd-for-genesis-9-feminine. It is nice to see a PA who recognizes that that history is not all glamorous and pretty and it was tough, brutal, and gives us two options on a regular character and clothing. Normally it is only on warriors, etc...

    https://www.daz3d.com/hid-julie-for-genesis-9

    https://www.daz3d.com/mso-blade-hd-for-genesis-9

    And Sugatek has published in Feb 2025 https://www.daz3d.com/asian-hawker-centre, which after having it on my wishlist, I was finally able to buy it.

    I am hoping that DAZ will give us a wishlist sale that will allow me to scoop them up like I did a number of new items last week. 

     

  • AsuCafeAsuCafe Posts: 286

    Works from my favorite artists:

    https://www.daz3d.com/ancient-water-town-in-shanghai

    I'm not sure if Shanghai has such a town, but the Jiangnan region (present-day Jiangsu) is known for its water towns. One of the photos shows a sign that says "Zhouzhuang Noodle Shop," and Zhouzhuang is indeed the most famous ancient town in the Jiangnan region.

    This is my favorite Chinese town anyway, and it's on my priority buying list, Furthermore, there are many houses with open doors nearby., and the interiors are decorated, making it a truly exquisite model.

    https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-chinese-villager-outfit-for-genesis-9

    How can an ancient town be complete without its ancient villagers? The exquisite design even comes with firewood on its back! Lala-Rabbit has become my favorite costume artist.

     

  • Havos said:

    I also wish listed 6 products today, which is the most for one day in a long time.

    That's about where I am with today's new items. 

  • CybersoxCybersox Posts: 9,632
    edited February 5

    Lorraine said:

    Wow! There are seven prop and environment sets in today's releases, SEVEN!! Outnumbering the characters, poses and clothes. Three of them into my wishlist...Stonemason's two sets and sugatak's town. Thank you to all the PA's :)

    Yeah, the Sugatak set is fantastic with amazing detailwork, an instant must-buy.  As to Stonemason's two entries, I have to say that while I love his work as always, the Classical Gardens set does feel a bit pricey given that it apparently doesn't enclude the surrounding buildings while The Classical Courtyard, for the exact same price, includes both the buildings and a different set of landscaping. Xivon's Streets of Vegas is kind of mystifying to me, as if one is going to do an obvious clone of Vegas' 4th street experience,why do a version that's more vanilla and less visually exciting than the real one?  (Or better yet, why not do an older version set in the days when 4th st was still the heart of Las Vegas, ie: early 70's in the days of DIamonds are Forever when the Hotels on The Strip were yet to become what they are today ?)  Giko and Ap's sets, on the other, are okay but look mainly suitable for long shots, while Ensary's pose set went into the long term "maybe when it's on sale for a few dollars" list", as since there are a number of complex interactive poses, the fact that the default figure sizes seem to have been done with the male figure being the same size as the female (or possibly even a little shorter, given that the girl in the promo shots isn't wearing heels) seems like they'll require a bit of reposing for a the more varied proportions of a more typical larger male/smaller female height ratio.  

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  • ArtAngelArtAngel Posts: 2,086
    edited February 6

    ArtAngel said:

    Matt_Castle said:

    joanna said:

    According to the sales representative who answered my ticket, Daz is very strict about their policy in regards of AI use and asks for tickets to be raised if users have concerns about specific products.

    This is what they've said, although I have put in tickets about products where I'm confident there must have been AI usage (I won't name the products or directly point fingers, but don't see how human created textures would end up with misaligned text made up out of gibberish words that have distorted letters that don't exist in any alphabet I'm aware of) to which there has been no response I can tell as far as removal or revision of those products.

    So, to me at least, it feels like Daz is posturing rather than actually taking action about this. Even if they thought I was wrong, it would at least have been appreciated to get a message saying "we've investigated this and do not believe generative content was used", rather than feeling like I've been ignored.

    The thing is, this is actually quite an important matter. Regardless of personal feelings about whether it's right to use AI to generate content, we're still very much in a situation where the legalities of work that uses AI generated content are still being resolved. For anyone who doesn't want to be the canary in the coalmine as far as finding out whether their work's copyright status could be damaged by using AI generated content, I think it's actually a user's right to be openly and honestly informed about whether generative content was used. 

    ++1 for the comment from MC (highlighted above). I do not like to point fingers either . . . but I have seen other people (posters) specifically call out products as AI, where the poster had enlarged screenshots exposing those areas that reeked of AI, and I really do appreciate those posts. One was for a product I had bought unknowing it was AI generated. I refuse to use AI but I did not return the product because it was a bundle and not all parts were AI. But thanks to the person who posted the info, I am aware and intend to remake the AI textures. The thing is when I or others make a post that is breaking policy it swiftly gets $#@!-canned (and rightfully so). So policy is policy. If it is broken it should be revealed. Some of us buyers (who are inexperienced with AI ) are not as savvy to fine details that are blaring AI sirens that some other more astute shoppers easily recognize. I feel we should share these concerns, post about these AI products with screenshots to support such, so everyone including the PA, QA and DAZ, and most importantly buyers, are bought up to speed. I hate returning crap and suspect customer services does not love the extra workload of returns. Exposing such saves a lot of wasted work for everyone. Because of the policy I trust everything I buy is non-AI because well that is the policy and terms I buy under. Returns are never a time saver, profitable or fun for anyone. Exposing such would A: enlighten the PA (and buyers) allow the PA a chance to respond hopefully to fix the product with an update . . . or pull it from the store . . .

    So I googled (cap locks urrggg) and got this:

    AI and DAZ.JPG
    897 x 882 - 139K
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  • GhostofMacbethGhostofMacbeth Posts: 1,767

    That is all fabricated. And Daz AI Studio was discontinued last year.

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