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  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 40,684

    Warn Autumn Park? cheeky

    are the dogs off leash or are there snakes?

  • memcneil70memcneil70 Posts: 5,715

    Lorraine said:

    I wish Magic Brush would stop putting G9 as a requirement in their environments when not at all required and also, stop sticking their models all over the promos, in some cases big enough to obscure what they are actually trying to sell.  End of rant.

    I was offline yesterday and it took time to catch-up this morning. Looking at this set I was struck by the totally inappropriate outfit the character was wearing for a windy, fall day. Who wears a slip dress that barely covers their body in autumn? And then show off that oufit with the model leaning off something and the dress doesn't even drape loose from gravity? That outfit is more appropriate to a beach/summer scene. Clothing that might have shown the character taking a breather while running would still show off her skin, and recognize that she would have warmed up during her run. (My first thought when I saw the dress was she was in a nightgown actually, I hadn't looked at the outfit's promo's description.) 

    I do agree the characters do take over the sets at time and irritate me when I just want to evaluate it. But it does give me a figure to compare against. 

  • richardandtracyrichardandtracy Posts: 7,570
    edited January 21

    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    Warn Autumn Park? cheeky

    are the dogs off leash or are there snakes?

    Yes.

    Assume also there will be people in pink or blue slip dresses randomly passing through, terrifying the dogs  wink. Oh! Look! The promo's already caught one on camera.

    Regards,

    Richard

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  • SilverGirlSilverGirl Posts: 3,478

    memcneil70 said:

    Lorraine said:

    I wish Magic Brush would stop putting G9 as a requirement in their environments when not at all required and also, stop sticking their models all over the promos, in some cases big enough to obscure what they are actually trying to sell.  End of rant.

    I was offline yesterday and it took time to catch-up this morning. Looking at this set I was struck by the totally inappropriate outfit the character was wearing for a windy, fall day. Who wears a slip dress that barely covers their body in autumn? And then show off that oufit with the model leaning off something and the dress doesn't even drape loose from gravity? That outfit is more appropriate to a beach/summer scene. Clothing that might have shown the character taking a breather while running would still show off her skin, and recognize that she would have warmed up during her run. (My first thought when I saw the dress was she was in a nightgown actually, I hadn't looked at the outfit's promo's description.) 

    I do agree the characters do take over the sets at time and irritate me when I just want to evaluate it. But it does give me a figure to compare against. 

    It totally makes sense for have a "for scale" charcter present unobtrusively (or amusingly, if possible!). Given these promo images seem to be on multiple products in the bundle, it feels like the PA was trying to save time/effort instead of letting each product put its best foot forward.

  • DripDrip Posts: 1,260

    jmucchiello said:

    nemesis10 said:

    jmucchiello said:

    What kind of clothing store doesn't have a back room or a changing area or, at a minimum, a doorway that would lead to such places? A doorway, perhaps with a sign "changing rooms" is all this needs to be functional. Oh well.

    Oh, you would be suprised!  There was this store in San Francisco that I often walked past that had no changing rooms, the garments came in one size, and entry was by appointment only.  You would come it and they would measure you so you never had to try the clothes on... the opposite of ready to wear.

    No, I would not be surprised. High end boutiques are known to me. These kinds of places still need to have a doorway to a back room, perhaps even a public facing "office" when private consultations can take place with the super elite. The workers need somewhere to "become unseen" when they aren't working with a customer. I'd also expect a high end store like that to have a customer facing restroom. A store with no non-public areas is exceedingly rare.

    My aunt actually worked in some clothes store which didn't have any kind of back room, not even a toilet. And it wasn't exactly high end, upper mid-tier at best. No back storage for stock either, nothing, it was literaly just one big room with racks of clothes and a changing room for customers. She had to quit after about 35 years because her feet couldn't handle standing for hours anymore, since no, there were no seats either.. She could've gotten a job elsewhere easily, but she liked the clothes they sold and got to borrow them for free, so I guess that's why she stayed for ages.

  • barbultbarbult Posts: 26,668
    She borrowed them? That means people who bought the clothes were getting previously worn used clothing?
  • FabianaFabiana Posts: 273

    caravelle said:

    Fabiana's FK Sibilant Grace Jewellery Volume 2 - Limbs is here! Just as beautiful and with the same great possibilities (materials, rigging) as the first part. Flew immediately into my cart. Now I'm actually just waiting for a ring set... ;-) Or would rings in the same design be too much? If you 'put on' the bracelets, that might be the case, but otherwise, of course not. Maybe with a few morphs that make the bracelets really narrow... Hmm... ;-)

     thank you!!!!
    Patience is the key of the wise ;)

  • CybersoxCybersox Posts: 9,638

    barbult said:

    She borrowed them? That means people who bought the clothes were getting previously worn used clothing?

    It's not just the employees.  There's an entire class of "customers" who practice what is called "wardrobing", where they buy an outfit either in a store or online, wear it to an event or on a date, and then return it to get their money back, a phenomenon that has become especially prevalent with online influencers in recent years.  Unless it comes sealed in plastic with all the original tagging and stickers, never assume that anything you buy is actually clean. 

  • caravellecaravelle Posts: 2,708
    edited January 22

    Fabiana said:

    caravelle said:

    Fabiana's FK Sibilant Grace Jewellery Volume 2 - Limbs is here! Just as beautiful and with the same great possibilities (materials, rigging) as the first part. Flew immediately into my cart. Now I'm actually just waiting for a ring set... ;-) Or would rings in the same design be too much? If you 'put on' the bracelets, that might be the case, but otherwise, of course not. Maybe with a few morphs that make the bracelets really narrow... Hmm... ;-)

     thank you!!!!
    Patience is the key of the wise ;)

    Oh, that sounds as if...  smiley

    Ah, the German humorist and satirist Wilhelm Busch was so right when he wrote: ‘Every wish, when fulfilled, immediately gives birth to another!’... ;-)

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  • davesodaveso Posts: 7,959

    caravelle said:

    Fabiana said:

    caravelle said:

    Fabiana's FK Sibilant Grace Jewellery Volume 2 - Limbs is here! Just as beautiful and with the same great possibilities (materials, rigging) as the first part. Flew immediately into my cart. Now I'm actually just waiting for a ring set... ;-) Or would rings in the same design be too much? If you 'put on' the bracelets, that might be the case, but otherwise, of course not. Maybe with a few morphs that make the bracelets really narrow... Hmm... ;-)

     thank you!!!!
    Patience is the key of the wise ;)

    Oh, that sounds as if...  smiley

    Ah, the German humorist and satirist Wilhelm Busch was so right when he wrote: ‘Every wish, when fulfilled, immediately gives birth to another!’... ;-)

    must be why my wishlist is never empty 

  • mdingmding Posts: 1,764

    Maybe it is a silly question, but could anybody tell me if

    https://www.daz3d.com/jmr-dforce-cameron-hood-for-genesis-9-and-8-male

    is an historic (medieval) clothing product? I couldn't find a definite answer with google, so can somebody more knowledgeable explain to me?

    I do know that JaMaRe does create historic clothing from time to time, btw.

    Thanks in advance!

  • LorraineLorraine Posts: 963

    Not today's release but yesterday's. Ever since I read the Incredible Journey by Sheila Burnford, and every time I have reread it, I have wanted an English Bull Terrier. A mischievious, unrepentant rogue like Champion Borough Castle Brigadier of Doune aka Bodger and yesterday he arrived in the store. I'll never own the real dog, but I'm going to have a huge amount of fun playing with his digital double.

    https://www.daz3d.com/da-bull-terrier-for-daz-dog-8

  • memcneil70memcneil70 Posts: 5,715

    mding said:

    Maybe it is a silly question, but could anybody tell me if

    https://www.daz3d.com/jmr-dforce-cameron-hood-for-genesis-9-and-8-male

    is an historic (medieval) clothing product? I couldn't find a definite answer with google, so can somebody more knowledgeable explain to me?

    I do know that JaMaRe does create historic clothing from time to time, btw.

    Thanks in advance!

    I was curious too. I did the Google search on 'Medieval hoods for men' and found a number of hoods for sale, not specifically of this style nor all with fur linings, I had to add 'with fur' and then ended up with cloaks with hoods and fur. Now these were all for reenactors, so I can only assume they were based on real clothing. Like many items, clothing would be varied depending on country and region and caste.

  • mdingmding Posts: 1,764

    Thanks @memcneil70, so I guess we can assume, but don't know for sure that it is historical clothing? At least in fantasy renders, they might fit in very good. Wishlisted.

  • memcneil70memcneil70 Posts: 5,715

    mding said:

    Thanks @memcneil70, so I guess we can assume, but don't know for sure that it is historical clothing? At least in fantasy renders, they might fit in very good. Wishlisted.

    I haven't wishlisted it. I thought the fur was on the skimpy side and wouldn't do much to keep one warm. Made me think of cheap cold weather coats with fake fur that is skimpy vs those coats with deep hoods, thick 'fur' hanging over the edge of the hood, and looking snuggly. But if a merchant who was trying to emmulate aristocratic styles, then it works. But not sure if sumptuary laws would allow that though.

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 40,684
    edited January 25

    pretty sure I saw something similar in one of those booths in the middle of a shopping centre near me with fake fur and a drawstring on the hood

    they called it a poncho though I would call it a mantle

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  • mdingmding Posts: 1,764

    So it seems to be rather modern fashion. Nevertheless, someday in a fantasy project retextured it might work out.

  • SilverGirlSilverGirl Posts: 3,478
    edited January 25

    memcneil70 said:

    mding said:

    Maybe it is a silly question, but could anybody tell me if

    https://www.daz3d.com/jmr-dforce-cameron-hood-for-genesis-9-and-8-male

    is an historic (medieval) clothing product? I couldn't find a definite answer with google, so can somebody more knowledgeable explain to me?

    I do know that JaMaRe does create historic clothing from time to time, btw.

    Thanks in advance!

    I was curious too. I did the Google search on 'Medieval hoods for men' and found a number of hoods for sale, not specifically of this style nor all with fur linings, I had to add 'with fur' and then ended up with cloaks with hoods and fur. Now these were all for reenactors, so I can only assume they were based on real clothing. Like many items, clothing would be varied depending on country and region and caste.

    Depending on the store, the fact that it looks aimed at reenactors might have nothing at all to do with historical accuracy. A lot of them are aimed at "playtrons" who are going more for aesthetic than accuracy. As far as solid resources... Depending on the chapter, the SCA (Society for Creative Anachronism) can either be super stringent about their accuracy or super lenient, but there are definitely people there that completely nerd out over it. And, of course, the problem is that most of what we have to go off is just what happened to survive.

    I am definitely not as knowledgeable as many, especially about noble stuff. That said, cowls definitely existed, but I can't say as I've seen one with that slit in the side. When you think about why you'd wear one (warmth), it doesn't make a lot of sense to introduce a spot the wind could get through or flip it up. So although I'd bow to anyone who presented a historical reference, my instinct says it's more inspired than accurate. I know I certainly wouldn't make one like that for myself or my kids.

    Post edited by SilverGirl on
  • mdingmding Posts: 1,764

    Many thanks @memcneil70, @WendyLuvsCatz and @SilverGirl!

  • HavosHavos Posts: 5,641
    edited January 26

    A cowl was a hood worn by a monk. Here is an example picture: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/cowl#/media/File:Illustrated_catalogue_of_the_valuable_paintings_and_sculptures_by_the_old_and_modern_masters_forming_the_famous_Catholina_Lambert_Collection_removed_from_Belle_Vista_Castle,_Paterson,_New_Jersey_(14576852490).jpg

    The cut is different from that hood in the picture, and I doubt historical ones had fur edges, which only make sense on a full cloak, not a head covering like that. It was also likely made from plain brown cloth, not patterned and brightly coloured like the one in the product. The Cameron Hood is at best inspired by historical clothing, but would naturally be fine for fantasy settings were anything is allowed.

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  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 40,684

    Cameron means crooked nose cheeky

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cameron_(given_name)

    seems someone clocked them for wearing that hood

  • barbultbarbult Posts: 26,668

    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    Cameron means crooked nose cheeky

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cameron_(given_name)

    seems someone clocked them for wearing that hood

    I don't understand the excitement about that hood product. Using displacement for fur in Iray looks bad. Maybe it will look better in DS6 because of Iray displacement improvements. I think Wendy is on to something with her last sentence.

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 40,684

    meh, you mean it's not even dforce strandbased indecision

  • barbultbarbult Posts: 26,668

    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    meh, you mean it's not even dforce strandbased indecision

    I don't believe so. The product page says:
    Textures Include:

    • 21 Textures for Base Color, Glossy Color and Displacement Strength Maps (4096 x 4096)

     The "fur" sure looks like displacement in DS4 to me to me.

  • StonemasonStonemason Posts: 1,242
    barbult said:

    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    Cameron means crooked nose cheeky

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cameron_(given_name)

    seems someone clocked them for wearing that hood

    I don't understand the excitement about that hood product. Using displacement for fur in Iray looks bad. Maybe it will look better in DS6 because of Iray displacement improvements. I think Wendy is on to something with her last sentence.

    "Iray displacement improvements" Wasn't aware of this..what improvements?
  • Matt_CastleMatt_Castle Posts: 3,102
    edited January 26

    Stonemason said:

    "Iray displacement improvements" Wasn't aware of this..what improvements?

    There's a new surface parameter option available (I'm not sure it's on all shaders though, but it shows up on Iray Uber at least) called "Displacement Adaptive Quality". I'm not certain of the exact functionality, but the general description seems to be that it allows it to dynamically decide to add more geometry for a displacement. 

    Post edited by Matt_Castle on
  • tsroemitsroemi Posts: 3,536

    barbult said:

    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    meh, you mean it's not even dforce strandbased indecision

    I don't believe so. The product page says:
    Textures Include:

    • 21 Textures for Base Color, Glossy Color and Displacement Strength Maps (4096 x 4096)

     The "fur" sure looks like displacement in DS4 to me to me.

    Ah, so this is why! I did think it looked strange and kinda old-timey. Thanks for pointing this out! 

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 109,716

    Matt_Castle said:

    Stonemason said:

    "Iray displacement improvements" Wasn't aware of this..what improvements?

    There's a new surface parameter option available (I'm not sure it's on all shaders though, but it shows up on Iray Uber at least) called "Displacement Adaptive Quality". I'm not certain of the exact functionality, but the general description seems to be that it allows it to dynamically decide to add more geometry for a displacement. 

    Yes, so it is now possible to use displacement to add detail without having to make the whole model high-polygon (explicitly or via SubD), in a similar way to 3Delight.

  • StonemasonStonemason Posts: 1,242
    Richard Haseltine said:

    Matt_Castle said:

    Stonemason said:

    "Iray displacement improvements" Wasn't aware of this..what improvements?

    There's a new surface parameter option available (I'm not sure it's on all shaders though, but it shows up on Iray Uber at least) called "Displacement Adaptive Quality". I'm not certain of the exact functionality, but the general description seems to be that it allows it to dynamically decide to add more geometry for a displacement. 

    Yes, so it is now possible to use displacement to add detail without having to make the whole model high-polygon (explicitly or via SubD), in a similar way to 3Delight.

    Thanks guys. Haven't looked into this yet but does this mean it can be used on any geometry regardless of polygon layout? Previously you had to be very careful to use displacement on meshes with an even layout of polys, where every polygon needed to be the same size and very much dquare in shape,
  • Not VictoriaNot Victoria Posts: 123
    edited January 28

    Strangefate consistently delivers top-quality products. No misses.

    Today's egyptian props are funny. What are these? Beheaded servants? Tutan KaMunchies? 

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