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  • GranvilleGranville Posts: 523

    I prefer DazCentral to DIM because I can tell which of the many similarly named products I am installing. It even went automatically to my custom content directory. If people don't like it, they can stick with DIM.

    I would like to see more filtering options and a boolean search. Even more important, more sort options like publish date.

    To each his own.

  • Daz continues to ignore Mac users. :(

  • scorpioscorpio Posts: 7,897
    Granville said:

    I prefer DazCentral to DIM because I can tell which of the many similarly named products I am installing. It even went automatically to my custom content directory. If people don't like it, they can stick with DIM.

    I would like to see more filtering options and a boolean search. Even more important, more sort options like publish date.

    To each his own.

    Problem is, some of us are suddenly having problems logging into DIM.

  • algovincianalgovincian Posts: 2,351
    scorpio said:
    Granville said:

    I prefer DazCentral to DIM because I can tell which of the many similarly named products I am installing. It even went automatically to my custom content directory. If people don't like it, they can stick with DIM.

    I would like to see more filtering options and a boolean search. Even more important, more sort options like publish date.

    To each his own.

    Problem is, some of us are suddenly having problems logging into DIM.

    I just tried to log into DIM for the first time after installing this yesterday and I can confirm that I can no longer log into DIM.

    - Greg

  • scorpioscorpio Posts: 7,897
    scorpio said:
    Granville said:

    I prefer DazCentral to DIM because I can tell which of the many similarly named products I am installing. It even went automatically to my custom content directory. If people don't like it, they can stick with DIM.

    I would like to see more filtering options and a boolean search. Even more important, more sort options like publish date.

    To each his own.

    Problem is, some of us are suddenly having problems logging into DIM.

    I just tried to log into DIM for the first time after installing this yesterday and I can confirm that I can no longer log into DIM.

    - Greg

    I haven't even installed it, I did download so I'm wondering if it installed itself - I hope that is not the case.

     

  • scorpioscorpio Posts: 7,897
    scorpio said:
    Granville said:

    I prefer DazCentral to DIM because I can tell which of the many similarly named products I am installing. It even went automatically to my custom content directory. If people don't like it, they can stick with DIM.

    I would like to see more filtering options and a boolean search. Even more important, more sort options like publish date.

    To each his own.

    Problem is, some of us are suddenly having problems logging into DIM.

    I just tried to log into DIM for the first time after installing this yesterday and I can confirm that I can no longer log into DIM.

    - Greg

    I changed my password via my account and it will now allow me to log in. But it seems strange that I have to do that and that the problem has popped up only when this new system is released.

  • mrinalmrinal Posts: 620
    GiGi_7 said:
    mrinal said:
    mindsong said:
    Sevrin said:

     

    mrinal said:

    Plugin installation/update support could have been added to SmartContent. V4/M4 capability and content development is pretty much frozen wrt Daz store, so once installed via DIM/manual don't require further maintenance. Doesn't justify building an entire "parallel" product for it.

    Yeah, I don't think ease-of-use is the point of this, but rather DRM.

    ...

    Never did see an answer to the multiple questions about Daz Central and ... 'foreign' content. This continued silence is likely to become an answer in itself.

    --ms

    That question is way easier asked than answered. Just to give an idea of the complexity involved:

    Automated access -
    Most marketplaces are designed and optimized for manual interactions and not for automated bulk access using any tool. Not all sites have the need nor the capability to handle automated downloads. In fact, several of these marketplaces may have safeguards to prevent such automated bulk access in order to avoid spikes of overload or prevent any DOS attack to their servers. Daz may be handling this scenario by routing calls from DIM/Studio to different servers than those that are used to access content catalog/description using web browser. So if you try to circumvent such site-wide measures using a tool, you risk getting flagged as a malicious user.

    Proprietary metadata -
    3rd party marketplaces sell their 3D content according to formats supported by popular tools used by professionals. Each additional format require additional effort from their publishers to support that format. For the few sites that support the Daz format (such as duf files) outside Daz, there is a severe lack of formalization to provide metadata that would facilitate categorization and searching inside studio. Publishers just get away with providing a path to access their content in the content library in a readme file and that have been deemed sufficient so far. As revolting as it may sound, but the support for arbitary manual installation of content diminishes the requirement for formal metadata. So in the absence of Daz prescribed metadata, your content is "invisible" to any tool that relies on the presence of it.

    Of course, there are further concerns regarding standardization of - access to content "repositories", federated content search/discovery using content "registries". But those challenges are way beyond the simple hurdles I mentioned above.

     

    With a tool making metadata before installation is enough. I use for rendo products and freebies a  Rstudio script to create metadata, manifest, support files, generate ID and introduce a custom category, then I zip all and set in DIM package folder, and DIM install the product. So, If I can do it, daz can do it better. The same using Riversoft content wizard plus doctot jellybean content package (I can't afford the money for these so I needed be creative and write my own primitive version)

    In fact, we don't need DIM if we don't care about the capacity of uninstalling or be tired reading the metadata in Daz Studio. A well made metadata is enough..

    To have (metadata), or not to have, that is the question. Many power users find it empowering if the content they download doesn't contain the metadata(categorization, tags) to their liking or style. That way they can start with a clean slate for categorizing and tagging each item rather than rely on the artist's perception. Those users have the necessary tools and knowhow to add their own custom metadata. Similary many artists realize this empowerment, so they publish their content with minimal required metadata or sometimes none at all. Some artists on the other hand, may find it an unproductive chore or don't have the tools/knowhow to add Daz specific metadata assuming(?) that most users don't use SmartContent so the cost/benefit equation doesn't weigh enough. In any case, not having appropriate metadata at the source (i.e. on the server) hurts the development of content management tools that rely on the presence of metadata at the source before it can help the user in deciding whether (if and when) to download the content based on their current needs.

    Let me try to illustrate how DazCentral might approach this for Rendo (or any other site for that matter):

    1) Authenticate with the external site (can be automated)
    2) Navigate to the user's account section to retrieve the direct download links for assets. (can be automated)
    3) Categorize the assests or try to identify tags without downloading those assets. (well....)
    4) List the external assets in the DazCentral interface based on user specified criteria (gated due to #3 above)

    I hope you can now see the importance of having metadata (or atleast some rudimentary form of categorization/tagging) at the source that is accessible within content management tools. That is where the need for standardization for content "repositories" across marketplaces wrt to Daz Studio come into play.

     

  • Noah LGPNoah LGP Posts: 2,361
    edited May 2020

    Does DazCentral detect the corrupted packages and the missing thumbnails ?

    Post edited by Noah LGP on
  • DAZ_Rawb said:

    Just to clear things up for everyone: DIM isn't going anywhere. DazCentral actually shares the same core as DIM, so updates to its core will also mean updates to DIM's core and vice-versa. 

     

    DazCentral is designed to be the method that new users have their first introduction to Daz and its world of content. DIM has a lot of functionality that makes it a bit confusing for new users. For example, having the products spread across three tabs makes sense to all of you because you have learned why it's split that way, but for someone just coming having a product disappear after it finishes downloading but before it's installed is confusing. Additionally, mapping a bunch of paths and being able to download on one machine and install on another are useful functionalities for more advanced use cases, but having all those options give a fresh face a lot of options that don't lead to good results until you learn what all the controls do. DazCentral is an optimized user experience for new users, to help them get started and giving them the best chance of success.

     

    For the power users that have things setup just the way they want or a slightly different method of doing things DazCentral isn't the correct software for you. But hey, that's why DIM is staying around.

    That's great that Daz is supposedly making it easier for new users to find products they purchased (which was never my problem when I started with DS,) but how about an actual USERS MANUAL that even people who have been using the software for a while could use with full WRITTEN tutorials with screenshots of all the advanced capabilities of DS as well as the basics. New users will get frustrated when they can't even use the s oftware. 

    Agreed, we need an updated DS User Manual more than anything else. (As far as I'm concerned Daz3d can put Genesis 9 on hold until the manual is updated.)  The current manual is for which version--DS 4.5? DS4.7? Pre-Iray & Pre-dForce, surely. At this point I find the manual useless.

     

  • Ghosty12Ghosty12 Posts: 1,636
    edited May 2020

    Well it looks like the beta of this program obliterated some of my DiM files.. While my custom content directories are still there, the information to tell me what I had downloaded is gone..

    Post edited by Ghosty12 on
  • mrinalmrinal Posts: 620
    Havos said:
    nicstt said:
    mrinal said:
    Sevrin said:

     

    mrinal said:

    Plugin installation/update support could have been added to SmartContent. V4/M4 capability and content development is pretty much frozen wrt Daz store, so once installed via DIM/manual don't require further maintenance. Doesn't justify building an entire "parallel" product for it.

    Yeah, I don't think ease-of-use is the point of this, but rather DRM.

    Smart Content works on metadata from the CMS which is managed by both the DIM and Connect installation process or if someone has manually added metadata for external items. So it is already decoupled from Connect to a large extent. But the de facto installation method with Smart Content is Connect and thats where the concerns are wrt to its reliance on DRM. If we can make it optional for Smart Content so that it could install using DIM paths then a lot of public perception around it could be improved and its barrier of adoption lowered. But a significant drawback with that option would be that it would no longer be able to do differential updates (a feature of Connect that saves bandwidth and time while downloading content updates of only updated files/metadata instead of the entire package all over again) and content installation in discrete directories. If we keep aside the concerns for DRM for a moment, Smart Content and Connect seemed a step in the right direction for content management.

    The fact DRM still exists in, is one reason Im not interested in Smart Content. It largely colours my perception of the product as a whole

    Smart Content was around for many years before DazConnect/DRM arrived. The two are completely different beasts. I use Smart Content a huge amount, but none of my content has been installed by Connect.

    How did SmartContent install assets before DazConnect arrived?

  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 15,939
    Noah LGP said:

    Does DazCentral detect the corrupted packages and the missing thumbnails ?

    no, eg the cararra head caps that came out during Genesis. The Three Bears, Big Bad Wolf, and Toon Squirrel products are other examples of incorrect installer packages.

  • xyer0xyer0 Posts: 4,404
    DAZ_Rawb said:

    Just to clear things up for everyone: DIM isn't going anywhere. DazCentral actually shares the same core as DIM, so updates to its core will also mean updates to DIM's core and vice-versa. 

     

    DazCentral is designed to be the method that new users have their first introduction to Daz and its world of content. DIM has a lot of functionality that makes it a bit confusing for new users. For example, having the products spread across three tabs makes sense to all of you because you have learned why it's split that way, but for someone just coming having a product disappear after it finishes downloading but before it's installed is confusing. Additionally, mapping a bunch of paths and being able to download on one machine and install on another are useful functionalities for more advanced use cases, but having all those options give a fresh face a lot of options that don't lead to good results until you learn what all the controls do. DazCentral is an optimized user experience for new users, to help them get started and giving them the best chance of success.

     

    For the power users that have things setup just the way they want or a slightly different method of doing things DazCentral isn't the correct software for you. But hey, that's why DIM is staying around.

    Thanks for once again piercing the darkness @DAZ_Rawb. Now, please copy this post into the OP so we can keep things straight.

  • FixmypcmikeFixmypcmike Posts: 19,013
    mrinal said:
    Havos said:
    nicstt said:
    [edit]

    Smart Content was around for many years before DazConnect/DRM arrived. The two are completely different beasts. I use Smart Content a huge amount, but none of my content has been installed by Connect.

    How did SmartContent install assets before DazConnect arrived?

    DIM installs the metadata, or if you install manually you can Reimport Metadata.

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 76,038
    Ghosty12 said:

    Well it looks like the beta of this program obliterated some of my DiM files.. While my custom content directories are still there, the information to tell me what I had downloaded is gone..

    Several users have reproted that it reset their content paths in DIM - which I would think is a bug. You should be able to reset the paths (including, I would guess, the manifests folder) and have everything correct again.

  • nicsttnicstt Posts: 11,263
    Havos said:
    nicstt said:
    mrinal said:
    Sevrin said:

     

    mrinal said:

    Plugin installation/update support could have been added to SmartContent. V4/M4 capability and content development is pretty much frozen wrt Daz store, so once installed via DIM/manual don't require further maintenance. Doesn't justify building an entire "parallel" product for it.

    Yeah, I don't think ease-of-use is the point of this, but rather DRM.

    Smart Content works on metadata from the CMS which is managed by both the DIM and Connect installation process or if someone has manually added metadata for external items. So it is already decoupled from Connect to a large extent. But the de facto installation method with Smart Content is Connect and thats where the concerns are wrt to its reliance on DRM. If we can make it optional for Smart Content so that it could install using DIM paths then a lot of public perception around it could be improved and its barrier of adoption lowered. But a significant drawback with that option would be that it would no longer be able to do differential updates (a feature of Connect that saves bandwidth and time while downloading content updates of only updated files/metadata instead of the entire package all over again) and content installation in discrete directories. If we keep aside the concerns for DRM for a moment, Smart Content and Connect seemed a step in the right direction for content management.

    The fact DRM still exists in, is one reason Im not interested in Smart Content. It largely colours my perception of the product as a whole

    Smart Content was around for many years before DazConnect/DRM arrived. The two are completely different beasts. I use Smart Content a huge amount, but none of my content has been installed by Connect.

    Agreed, but daz fixed it, and added something that wasn't popular.

    I'm wary of this item.

    That's your choice.

  • SevrinSevrin Posts: 5,609

    The only thing that bothers me about DIM is how unintuitive the UI is.  There's still no easy way to find just your tutorials, for instance.  And coming to the forums in hope that someone will provide a sequence of letters they can copy/paste into the filter box is not a substitute.  

     Daz is marketed as a consumer/hobbyist product, but its interface doesn't reflect that.  So rather than design DIM so that it's easier for everyone to use, Daz Central will provide a colourful interface with what looks like fewer options that will frustrate users as soon as their requirements expand.  Then they will be told to use DIM and just deal with it.

  • Noah LGPNoah LGP Posts: 2,361
    Noah LGP said:

    Does DazCentral detect the corrupted packages and the missing thumbnails ?

    no, eg the cararra head caps that came out during Genesis. The Three Bears, Big Bad Wolf, and Toon Squirrel products are other examples of incorrect installer packages.

    Okay thank you !

  • mavantemavante Posts: 734
    evacyn said:

    Daz continues to ignore Mac users. :(

    But I still want to know what I asked a page back: Why, if there is no Mac version, is a product named "DazCentral Mac64" sitting at the top of my Product Library list in my account? See attachment.

    ProductLibrarList-DazCentralMac.jpg
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  • mrinalmrinal Posts: 620
    DAZ_Rawb said:

    Just to clear things up for everyone: DIM isn't going anywhere. DazCentral actually shares the same core as DIM, so updates to its core will also mean updates to DIM's core and vice-versa. 

    I hope this assurance holds despite the indication that DazCentral uses a different UI than DIM. And I hope that new features in DazCentral are not held back from incorporation into DIM due to incompatibility issues in UI, otherwise DIM risks running into obsolence. 

    DAZ_Rawb said:

    DazCentral is designed to be the method that new users have their first introduction to Daz and its world of content. DIM has a lot of functionality that makes it a bit confusing for new users. For example, having the products spread across three tabs makes sense to all of you because you have learned why it's split that way, but for someone just coming having a product disappear after it finishes downloading but before it's installed is confusing. Additionally, mapping a bunch of paths and being able to download on one machine and install on another are useful functionalities for more advanced use cases, but having all those options give a fresh face a lot of options that don't lead to good results until you learn what all the controls do. DazCentral is an optimized user experience for new users, to help them get started and giving them the best chance of success.

    I tried using DazCentral from the perspective of a new user and found a conflicting installation issue. Lets say, a new user somehow manages to get both both DIM and DazConnect configured and functioning properly. They then decide to install an asset using DazCentral, which by default, "transparently" installs the asset into their DIM path. Now the user decides to open the content in DazCentral. They are guided to the SmartContent tab in DS to locate the asset and are simultaneously introduced to the capabilities of SmartContent. Fair enough, so far. Now the user decides to explore the SmartContent functionality in DS by trying to install assets from within SmartContent tab using the context menu of an available asset. Again, SmartContent "transparently" installs the asset, but this time into the DazConnect path. The naive new user finally navigates back to DazCentral to verify if the installed asset (via SmartContent) shows up as installed, of course, to be greeted with an unpleasant surprise...

    I don't suppose this is a bug, may be, my DazConnect/DazCentral configuration was not in-line with whatever approach Daz was trying to promote here. But I cannot ignore the fact that DazCentral can potentially confuse the new user with "inconsistent" installation approaches that are being handled transparently under the hood across DazCentral and SmartContent especially when DazCentral is guiding the user towards SmartContent. Was it a conscious choice or just an oversight?

  • GiGi_7GiGi_7 Posts: 1,275
    Ghosty12 said:

    Well it looks like the beta of this program obliterated some of my DiM files.. While my custom content directories are still there, the information to tell me what I had downloaded is gone..

    Same problem to me. I lost the capacity to uninstall the products installed by DIM. the dim list was erased. Custom categories in DS, even DAZ default categories were erased too, no problem because I have the custom categories in their metadata and re-import it had solve the problem, however being able to uninstall is important to eliminate old generation files versions when I get conversion to genesis 8. My fault, I needed control for my curiosity. A beta is a beta.

  • LeanaLeana Posts: 9,171
    edited May 2020
    mrinal said:
    Havos said:
    nicstt said:
    mrinal said:
    Sevrin said:

     

    mrinal said:

    Plugin installation/update support could have been added to SmartContent. V4/M4 capability and content development is pretty much frozen wrt Daz store, so once installed via DIM/manual don't require further maintenance. Doesn't justify building an entire "parallel" product for it.

    Yeah, I don't think ease-of-use is the point of this, but rather DRM.

    Smart Content works on metadata from the CMS which is managed by both the DIM and Connect installation process or if someone has manually added metadata for external items. So it is already decoupled from Connect to a large extent. But the de facto installation method with Smart Content is Connect and thats where the concerns are wrt to its reliance on DRM. If we can make it optional for Smart Content so that it could install using DIM paths then a lot of public perception around it could be improved and its barrier of adoption lowered. But a significant drawback with that option would be that it would no longer be able to do differential updates (a feature of Connect that saves bandwidth and time while downloading content updates of only updated files/metadata instead of the entire package all over again) and content installation in discrete directories. If we keep aside the concerns for DRM for a moment, Smart Content and Connect seemed a step in the right direction for content management.

    The fact DRM still exists in, is one reason Im not interested in Smart Content. It largely colours my perception of the product as a whole

    Smart Content was around for many years before DazConnect/DRM arrived. The two are completely different beasts. I use Smart Content a huge amount, but none of my content has been installed by Connect.

    How did SmartContent install assets before DazConnect arrived?

    Smart content itself doesn't install anything, it's a way to access your installed content. Before Connect there was no option to install content from within DS, just the categorization and content access features.

    If you meant "how was metadata added to smart content before Connect", then it was done exactly in the same way as you do it now when you don't use Connect, there's a metadata file to install along with you content.

    Post edited by Leana on
  • AnotherUserNameAnotherUserName Posts: 2,687

    Still installing and organizing manually like its 1999.

    Thanks Daz, but no thanks.

  • GiGi_7GiGi_7 Posts: 1,275
    mrinal said:

    I hope you can now see the importance of having metadata (or atleast some rudimentary form of categorization/tagging) at the source that is accessible within content management tools. That is where the need for standardization for content "repositories" across marketplaces wrt to Daz Studio come into play.

     

    Effectively, I delete even the genesis 8 well made metadata in favor of the mine.

    Then, other people want the official metadata. I see now.

     

  • TorquinoxTorquinox Posts: 1,329

    No thanks. Daz 4.10 and I agree that DIM is still fine and does a pretty good job of keeping track of things.

  • memcneil70memcneil70 Posts: 2,027
    edited May 2020

    I went to use Mesh Grabber a half hour ago on my desktop that I tried DazCentral out on and later uninstalled it, and found that the Mesh Grabber tool was completely missing. Investigating and comparing the desktop's plug-in list to my laptop's plug-in list shows that I am now missing 17 plugins. I guess I can uninstall and then reinstall in DIM, and then add the serial numbers back in if I need to, but this is a pain and a half. I had a render over 80% converged when I saw a poke through on a knee and wanted to fix it and rerender. Not do file maintenance.

    Daz, please note, leave file structure alone. Leave plug-ins alone.

    Update: Uninstalled in DIM, Reinstalled in DIM; had to save/close my scene; close DS; reboot; reopen DS, my Tool Settings show Mesh Grabber again and Measure Metrics and others are back in the Panes. Only one I can't find, couldn't find it in DIM either. Will have to deal with it tomorrow. This is not fun. 

    Post edited by memcneil70 on
  • DripDrip Posts: 961
    scorpio said:
    scorpio said:
    Granville said:

    I prefer DazCentral to DIM because I can tell which of the many similarly named products I am installing. It even went automatically to my custom content directory. If people don't like it, they can stick with DIM.

    I would like to see more filtering options and a boolean search. Even more important, more sort options like publish date.

    To each his own.

    Problem is, some of us are suddenly having problems logging into DIM.

    I just tried to log into DIM for the first time after installing this yesterday and I can confirm that I can no longer log into DIM.

    - Greg

    I changed my password via my account and it will now allow me to log in. But it seems strange that I have to do that and that the problem has popped up only when this new system is released.

    Thank you, at least DIM now logs in again.

  • algovincianalgovincian Posts: 2,351
    scorpio said:
    scorpio said:
    Granville said:

    I prefer DazCentral to DIM because I can tell which of the many similarly named products I am installing. It even went automatically to my custom content directory. If people don't like it, they can stick with DIM.

    I would like to see more filtering options and a boolean search. Even more important, more sort options like publish date.

    To each his own.

    Problem is, some of us are suddenly having problems logging into DIM.

    I just tried to log into DIM for the first time after installing this yesterday and I can confirm that I can no longer log into DIM.

    - Greg

    I changed my password via my account and it will now allow me to log in. But it seems strange that I have to do that and that the problem has popped up only when this new system is released.

    Don't really have anything I'm in a particular hurry to install at the moment, but it's good to know there's a solution - thanks.

    Still strikes me as odd, though, since I'm still able to log in to the forums. Same email and password . . . aren't they the same database?

    - Greg

  • ZilvergrafixZilvergrafix Posts: 1,378

    Still installing and organizing manually like its 1999.

    Thanks Daz, but no thanks.

    +1, considering the search option in the Daz Store not being accurate AND search function not working in the same DazStudio, AND having custom folders on F Drive , I'm out.

  • mindsongmindsong Posts: 1,616
    edited May 2020
    mrinal said:
    mindsong said:
    Sevrin said:

     

    mrinal said:

    Plugin installation/update support could have been added to SmartContent. V4/M4 capability and content development is pretty much frozen wrt Daz store, so once installed via DIM/manual don't require further maintenance. Doesn't justify building an entire "parallel" product for it.

    Yeah, I don't think ease-of-use is the point of this, but rather DRM.

    ...

    Never did see an answer to the multiple questions about Daz Central and ... 'foreign' content. This continued silence is likely to become an answer in itself.

    --ms

    That question is way easier asked than answered. Just to give an idea of the complexity involved:

    Automated access -
    Most marketplaces are designed and optimized for manual interactions and not for automated bulk access using any tool. Not all sites have the need nor the capability to handle automated downloads. In fact, several of these marketplaces may have safeguards to prevent such automated bulk access in order to avoid spikes of overload or prevent any DOS attack to their servers. Daz may be handling this scenario by routing calls from DIM/Studio to different servers than those that are used to access content catalog/description using web browser. So if you try to circumvent such site-wide measures using a tool, you risk getting flagged as a malicious user.

    Proprietary metadata -
    3rd party marketplaces sell their 3D content according to formats supported by popular tools used by professionals. Each additional format require additional effort from their publishers to support that format. For the few sites that support the Daz format (such as duf files) outside Daz, there is a severe lack of formalization to provide metadata that would facilitate categorization and searching inside studio. Publishers just get away with providing a path to access their content in the content library in a readme file and that have been deemed sufficient so far. As revolting as it may sound, but the support for arbitary manual installation of content diminishes the requirement for formal metadata. So in the absence of Daz prescribed metadata, your content is "invisible" to any tool that relies on the presence of it.

    Of course, there are further concerns regarding standardization of - access to content "repositories", federated content search/discovery using content "registries". But those challenges are way beyond the simple hurdles I mentioned above.

    Sure - then a simple "no" would be fine.

    I never stated or implied in any way that the request was trivial. As a business decision, the cost to DAZ of dealing with what you describe is completely relevant.

    At the same time, virtually everyone in here (not new users, trust me, I know the names - rough guess pegs 95% to 5+ year users), owns and uses content from Rendo, Hivewire, Pre-DAZ-RDNA, PoserWorld, etc., let alone the zillions of *randomly* packaged freebies from sharecg and other sources... So the question to us not-new users is probably one of *the* features that would still interest us most! That's what I would expect 'we heard your voices' to reflect, and the question still goes unanswered.

    Proof of this need is the existence of incredibly sophisticated tools like Riverside Arts's Content Wizard here at the store (and a few variations) that have been written to help us create home-made DIM packages and Smart-Content Meta-Data. Perhaps Riverside will be able to extend their great product to integrate with this tool, which would be great for everyone.

     

    The original question is still legit, and still hasn't been answered formally by a DAZ rep anywhere I can see, and I find that telling - in information and attitude, but that's just me.

    Either a simple 'we may someday', or 'sorry, no' or even 'sorry, no, DAZ doesn't do foreign data' would be *fine* with me, or... better yet, 'yeah, that's coming, but it's pretty complicated, given the many variations of foreign data out there. We may add support for the fairly regimented Poser Runtimes like we still sell at the store here first, and see how that goes... but we're going to work get the core under control first...'

    just sayin'

    Given the recent comments from DAZ_RawB that indicate that it is for *new* users (which is fine), starting the announcement out with "We've heard your voices" really begs the question, though doesn't it.

    Thanks for the response.

    --ms

    Post edited by mindsong on
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