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  • LeatherGryphonLeatherGryphon Posts: 12,084
    edited May 2018

    "Wizard Of Oz"  --- Lessons:  Life isn't all sugar and spice.  Even those at the top can tell whopping lies, so pick your friends wisely, face the nasties head on, and pull back the curtain on the deceivers.  And of course, "There's no place like home".  But don't forget, "Some people without brains do an awful lot of talking".

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  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675

    what the call the lady has snake lower bodu?

    i keep thinking llama, but llamas the cute furry horsie types badges on da

  • RezcaRezca Posts: 3,393
    Mistara said:

    what the call the lady has snake lower bodu?

    i keep thinking llama, but llamas the cute furry horsie types badges on da

    Lamia?

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675
    Rezca said:
    Mistara said:

    what the call the lady has snake lower bodu?

    i keep thinking llama, but llamas the cute furry horsie types badges on da

    Lamia?

    surprise thanks!!!

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675

    complaint - cant search the store for lamia, keeps chabging it to

    Search results for 'gamba'

    tried like 5 times

  • carrie58carrie58 Posts: 4,081
    edited May 2018

    Well what about  https://www.daz3d.com/the-gorgon   or  https://www.daz3d.com/queen-cobra-hd or  https://www.daz3d.com/succubus-add-ons

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  • DanaTADanaTA Posts: 13,333
    Rezca said:

    Aaand now that all that's wrapped up, a couple of the 3D's I've been working on:

     

    First up another venture into zBrush where I tried to make some silly carnivorous plant with my limited knowledge of things.

     

    Then a little scene that's half my own modeling, and half stuff from elsewhere (People models included in Cinema 4D, and ofc the Mantiraptor from here at DAZ)

    Then finally just me messing around because whatever.  Our very own Sea Dragon,  and then two vehicle models I got off a free models website. Included two diff views because I was having fun.

     

     

    The mantiraptor scene was rendered in Cinema 4D's physical render, but I'm trying to transfer it over into Vray the past couple days. The Sea Dragon scene was started and finished in Vray.

    And uh, I'll try and not forget about the forum and wander off again ><;

    Hi, there!

     

    Feed me!

     

    The guy who's flying that helicopter is too low!  He's about to become lunch!

    Dana

  • DanaTADanaTA Posts: 13,333
    Tjohn said:

    Caturday Cosmic Thought:

    laugh​  Yup.

    Dana

  • DanaTADanaTA Posts: 13,333
    themidget said:
    kyoto kid said:
    TangoAlpha said:
    kyoto kid said:
    LeatherGryphon said:
    Mistara said:

    was talkin to a guy at work who's a dad. (whose?)

    says "animal farm" isn't in the school reading curriculum any more.  dunno why, i find that kinda scary.

    I never had to read "Animal Farm" but I do know the all too real plot.  However, "Lord of the Flies" scared the bezezus out of me. surprise  I sometimes wonder why we think we are so special, enlightened and entitled, when so much of history and human nature proves us wrong. sad

    ..I did, along with Lord of the Flies, Slaughterhouse 5, Catch-22 and It Can't Happen here. Went to a fairly progressive high school for the day.

     

    We did them here too. I think reading books like Animal Farm, Lord of the Flies, 1984, Farenheit 451 etc is important for kids, particularly in the current global political climates. If we hide the realities of the world we live in from our children, I think we do them a great disservice (not to mention the shock when the world finally catches up with them).

    I read 1984 when it was still "in the future"!

    ...Farenheit 451 was another one.  Seems there was just more social awareness in public education back then.Considering the times, it was a good thing.

    Brave New World

    That one was scary in the 90s when I read it!  I can see a lot of that stuff today, not happening...but the possibilities seem real.  VR still doesn't come close to "Feelies", but they're working on it.

    Dana

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675
    carrie58 said:

    Well what about  https://www.daz3d.com/the-gorgon   or  https://www.daz3d.com/queen-cobra-hd or  https://www.daz3d.com/succubus-add-ons

     

    thanks smiley

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,847
    DanaTA said:
    themidget said:
    kyoto kid said:
    TangoAlpha said:
    kyoto kid said:
    LeatherGryphon said:
    Mistara said:

    was talkin to a guy at work who's a dad. (whose?)

    says "animal farm" isn't in the school reading curriculum any more.  dunno why, i find that kinda scary.

    I never had to read "Animal Farm" but I do know the all too real plot.  However, "Lord of the Flies" scared the bezezus out of me. surprise  I sometimes wonder why we think we are so special, enlightened and entitled, when so much of history and human nature proves us wrong. sad

    ..I did, along with Lord of the Flies, Slaughterhouse 5, Catch-22 and It Can't Happen here. Went to a fairly progressive high school for the day.

     

    We did them here too. I think reading books like Animal Farm, Lord of the Flies, 1984, Farenheit 451 etc is important for kids, particularly in the current global political climates. If we hide the realities of the world we live in from our children, I think we do them a great disservice (not to mention the shock when the world finally catches up with them).

    I read 1984 when it was still "in the future"!

    ...Farenheit 451 was another one.  Seems there was just more social awareness in public education back then.Considering the times, it was a good thing.

    Brave New World

    That one was scary in the 90s when I read it!  I can see a lot of that stuff today, not happening...but the possibilities seem real.  VR still doesn't come close to "Feelies", but they're working on it.

    Dana

    ...it was scary in the 1960s as well.

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675

    up way passed beddybyetime. 

    appied a david5 pose to avid5, is taking 4 evaaa
    dressed him in technotabby, wanna see it rendered lol
     

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,847

    ...bedtime soon here. Have things to do tomorrow.

    Finished the p'sghetti I made the other night, very tasty the sauce made with crumbled Italian sausage big chunks of garlic all topped off with a mix of shredded Parmesan and Romano and washed down with a good Cabernet.

    So pasta and wine instead of tacos, Corona, and tequila on Cinco De Mayo  Par for the course when it comes to holidays.

  • ps1borgps1borg Posts: 12,776
    Rezca said:

    Aaand now that all that's wrapped up, a couple of the 3D's I've been working on:

     

    First up another venture into zBrush where I tried to make some silly carnivorous plant with my limited knowledge of things.

     

    Then a little scene that's half my own modeling, and half stuff from elsewhere (People models included in Cinema 4D, and ofc the Mantiraptor from here at DAZ)

    Then finally just me messing around because whatever.  Our very own Sea Dragon,  and then two vehicle models I got off a free models website. Included two diff views because I was having fun.

     

     

    The mantiraptor scene was rendered in Cinema 4D's physical render, but I'm trying to transfer it over into Vray the past couple days. The Sea Dragon scene was started and finished in Vray.

    And uh, I'll try and not forget about the forum and wander off again ><;

    Very cool Rezca:)

  • ps1borgps1borg Posts: 12,776
    LeatherGryphon said:
    themidget said:

    What's the point in cleaning up when it's just going to get messy again?

    Pride?  Sanitation?  Sophistication?  Order?  Not losing things in the clutter?

    If every day, everybody in the world picked up and properly disposed of one more piece of trash than they created, the world would be a lot cleaner place.  Start the day by making your bed, even if it's just to hastily cover it with a quilt.  You've accomplished one thing for the day and it's easier to keep the ball rolling. enlightened

    That being said,  it's my policy to vacuum the house once a year whether it needs it or not. surprise

     

    Someone said after the first four years the dust doesn’t get any worse, forget who said that :)

  • ps1borgps1borg Posts: 12,776
    Mistara said:

    up way passed beddybyetime. 

    appied a david5 pose to avid5, is taking 4 evaaa
    dressed him in technotabby, wanna see it rendered lol
     

    Bedtime will probably last until Tuesday for me. A lot of catching up to do :0

  • ps1borgps1borg Posts: 12,776
    kyoto kid said:

    ...bedtime soon here. Have things to do tomorrow.

    Finished the p'sghetti I made the other night, very tasty the sauce made with crumbled Italian sausage big chunks of garlic all topped off with a mix of shredded Parmesan and Romano and washed down with a good Cabernet.

    So pasta and wine instead of tacos, Corona, and tequila on Cinco De Mayo  Par for the course when it comes to holidays.

    Would love some Tacos with shredded beef right now but gonna slice some potato and fry chips instead

  • ps1borgps1borg Posts: 12,776
    kyoto kid said:
    DanaTA said:
    themidget said:
    kyoto kid said:
    TangoAlpha said:
    kyoto kid said:
    LeatherGryphon said:
    Mistara said:

    was talkin to a guy at work who's a dad. (whose?)

    says "animal farm" isn't in the school reading curriculum any more.  dunno why, i find that kinda scary.

    I never had to read "Animal Farm" but I do know the all too real plot.  However, "Lord of the Flies" scared the bezezus out of me. surprise  I sometimes wonder why we think we are so special, enlightened and entitled, when so much of history and human nature proves us wrong. sad

    ..I did, along with Lord of the Flies, Slaughterhouse 5, Catch-22 and It Can't Happen here. Went to a fairly progressive high school for the day.

     

    We did them here too. I think reading books like Animal Farm, Lord of the Flies, 1984, Farenheit 451 etc is important for kids, particularly in the current global political climates. If we hide the realities of the world we live in from our children, I think we do them a great disservice (not to mention the shock when the world finally catches up with them).

    I read 1984 when it was still "in the future"!

    ...Farenheit 451 was another one.  Seems there was just more social awareness in public education back then.Considering the times, it was a good thing.

    Brave New World

    That one was scary in the 90s when I read it!  I can see a lot of that stuff today, not happening...but the possibilities seem real.  VR still doesn't come close to "Feelies", but they're working on it.

    Dana

    ...it was scary in the 1960s as well.

    Don’t mind feeling stuff at the movies, being felt is right outa nightmares :0

  • RezcaRezca Posts: 3,393

    I've brought this up before way way back, but I feel it's finally reached a conclusion where there's nothing more I can do about it. 

    I've had this model for a while now... "The Constrictor".  It looked like a neat 'upgrade' to the Morphing Python, and I didn't really notice the DUFF only thing until after I bought it.  Wasn't until earlier last week I tried taking it into D|S 4 to see if it could be exported out as something usable for me - every export option and format I tried ended up being the same.  It broke the rigging horribly, and the CR2 destroyed the morphs entirely. Yeah the sliders work, but the mesh implodes in on itself simply by touching any of them.

    The last thing I thought to try was manually exporting out the base model and the morphs then re-rigging it myself, but as far as I know the only way to get a mesh in Cinema 4D to go from X state to Y like Poser/DS's morphs is in the Studio edition of the program.  If there's another way to go about it - even if it's a longer or more cumbersome one - I don't know.

     

     

    Oh well xD

  • ps1borgps1borg Posts: 12,776

    Don’t know enough about C4D to be helpful there but asploding geometry might need its vertices welded ?

  • themidgetthemidget Posts: 287
    DanaTA said:
    themidget said:
    kyoto kid said:
    TangoAlpha said:
    kyoto kid said:
    LeatherGryphon said:
    Mistara said:

    was talkin to a guy at work who's a dad. (whose?)

    says "animal farm" isn't in the school reading curriculum any more.  dunno why, i find that kinda scary.

    I never had to read "Animal Farm" but I do know the all too real plot.  However, "Lord of the Flies" scared the bezezus out of me. surprise  I sometimes wonder why we think we are so special, enlightened and entitled, when so much of history and human nature proves us wrong. sad

    ..I did, along with Lord of the Flies, Slaughterhouse 5, Catch-22 and It Can't Happen here. Went to a fairly progressive high school for the day.

     

    We did them here too. I think reading books like Animal Farm, Lord of the Flies, 1984, Farenheit 451 etc is important for kids, particularly in the current global political climates. If we hide the realities of the world we live in from our children, I think we do them a great disservice (not to mention the shock when the world finally catches up with them).

    I read 1984 when it was still "in the future"!

    ...Farenheit 451 was another one.  Seems there was just more social awareness in public education back then.Considering the times, it was a good thing.

    Brave New World

    That one was scary in the 90s when I read it!  I can see a lot of that stuff today, not happening...but the possibilities seem real.  VR still doesn't come close to "Feelies", but they're working on it.

    Dana

    In a watered down sense it is real now.  Most people are so absorbed in TV and the internet, it's a wonder they have a clue what is happening in the real world.  I see people in town walking around with their heads glued to their smart phones.  At work, as soon as people take a break, out come the smart phones and the surfing begins.  Brave New World was certainly closer to the bone than 1984.  Most societies have long recognized that it is easier to control people with pleasure than it is with suffering.

  • RezcaRezca Posts: 3,393
    edited May 2018
    ps1borg said:

    Don’t know enough about C4D to be helpful there but asploding geometry might need its vertices welded ?

    I feel it's less Cinema 4D itslef and more how D|S is exporting/writing the format and/or how the InterPoser Pro plugin I'm using is reading it?  Not sure,  but this is what it looks like when I load up the file...

     

    And what it looks like when I try to pose it or use the posing sliders.  Using some of the morphs (Any of the head related ones for example) cause weird things to happen with the geometry.

     

    Sadly the author of the IPP plugin has long since left the development scene and it's (as far as I know) the only plugin around for Cinema that works with Poser/DS content.

     

    import.jpg
    1366 x 768 - 169K
    pose.jpg
    1366 x 768 - 181K
    head.jpg
    1366 x 768 - 177K
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  • ps1borgps1borg Posts: 12,776

    Usual cause of morphs deforming geometry like that is the morph extends geometry beyond the bounds of a vertex group, think there is a way to fix that if you unweld vertices, adjust bones and re-weld, but you need something like blender I guess that gives you geometry ops, not sure how Studio handles welds I’veonlyused the script function,one of the DZbone() calls I think :)

  • TJohnTJohn Posts: 11,339
    ps1borg said:
    LeatherGryphon said:
    themidget said:

    What's the point in cleaning up when it's just going to get messy again?

    Pride?  Sanitation?  Sophistication?  Order?  Not losing things in the clutter?

    If every day, everybody in the world picked up and properly disposed of one more piece of trash than they created, the world would be a lot cleaner place.  Start the day by making your bed, even if it's just to hastily cover it with a quilt.  You've accomplished one thing for the day and it's easier to keep the ball rolling. enlightened

    That being said,  it's my policy to vacuum the house once a year whether it needs it or not. surprise

     

    Someone said after the first four years the dust doesn’t get any worse, forget who said that :)

    Quentin Crisp.

  • RezcaRezca Posts: 3,393
    edited May 2018
    ps1borg said:

    Usual cause of morphs deforming geometry like that is the morph extends geometry beyond the bounds of a vertex group, think there is a way to fix that if you unweld vertices, adjust bones and re-weld, but you need something like blender I guess that gives you geometry ops, not sure how Studio handles welds I’veonlyused the script function,one of the DZbone() calls I think :)

    I didn't understand most of that sadly ^^;

    The joints/bones themselves moved oddly too;  in that second screenshot:  Just taking one of the joints and rotating it causes it to move along the middle like you're just rotating a geometry selection rather than moving a joint in a rig (Or moving a joint that has an absolute weighting on it and no smooth falloff between it and the next joint). 

    Post edited by Rezca on
  • LeatherGryphonLeatherGryphon Posts: 12,084
    ps1borg said:
    LeatherGryphon said:
    themidget said:

    What's the point in cleaning up when it's just going to get messy again?

    Pride?  Sanitation?  Sophistication?  Order?  Not losing things in the clutter?

    If every day, everybody in the world picked up and properly disposed of one more piece of trash than they created, the world would be a lot cleaner place.  Start the day by making your bed, even if it's just to hastily cover it with a quilt.  You've accomplished one thing for the day and it's easier to keep the ball rolling. enlightened

    That being said,  it's my policy to vacuum the house once a year whether it needs it or not. surprise

     

    Someone said after the first four years the dust doesn’t get any worse, forget who said that :)

    Dust provides a way to track the vermin. enlightened

  • TSasha SmithTSasha Smith Posts: 27,243

    Hey just checking in.  Caturday was busy, so did not go online much.

  • ps1borgps1borg Posts: 12,776
    Rezca said:
    ps1borg said:

    Usual cause of morphs deforming geometry like that is the morph extends geometry beyond the bounds of a vertex group, think there is a way to fix that if you unweld vertices, adjust bones and re-weld, but you need something like blender I guess that gives you geometry ops, not sure how Studio handles welds I’veonlyused the script function,one of the DZbone() calls I think :)

    I didn't understand most of that sadly ^^;

    The joints/bones themselves moved oddly too;  in that second screenshot:  Just taking one of the joints and rotating it causes it to move along the middle like you're just rotating a geometry selection rather than moving a joint in a rig (Or moving a joint that has an absolute weighting on it and no smooth falloff between it and the next joint). 

    I’m suggesting that rather than RE-rig in detail you use some operator in Studio that will force a recalculation of influence zones/weight boundaries, maybe try loading the exported cr2 into studio and see if you get a different result :0

  • ps1borgps1borg Posts: 12,776
    Miss Bad Wolf said:

    Hey just checking in.  Caturday was busy, so did not go online much.

    Is nearly Monday here, going to have to sleep some more :0

  • RezcaRezca Posts: 3,393
    ps1borg said:
    Rezca said:
    ps1borg said:

    Usual cause of morphs deforming geometry like that is the morph extends geometry beyond the bounds of a vertex group, think there is a way to fix that if you unweld vertices, adjust bones and re-weld, but you need something like blender I guess that gives you geometry ops, not sure how Studio handles welds I’veonlyused the script function,one of the DZbone() calls I think :)

    I didn't understand most of that sadly ^^;

    The joints/bones themselves moved oddly too;  in that second screenshot:  Just taking one of the joints and rotating it causes it to move along the middle like you're just rotating a geometry selection rather than moving a joint in a rig (Or moving a joint that has an absolute weighting on it and no smooth falloff between it and the next joint). 

    I’m suggesting that rather than RE-rig in detail you use some operator in Studio that will force a recalculation of influence zones/weight boundaries, maybe try loading the exported cr2 into studio and see if you get a different result :0

    I haven't used D|S since I got Carrara,  so way back when D|S 2.0 was still the "Latest and Greatest" newest version of the program, so I'm not really familiar with that process ^^;

     

    As for loading the exported CR2... Yeah, I tried that earlier and it worked flawlessly.  So whatever problem is happening, it's probably something the InterPoser plugin's having issues with, which could be any number of things. Anything that was made with Poser in mind it'll run without issue (Well, figure-wise it will) but this was made with D|S in mind and simply exported out.  Obviously I don't have any of the modern Poser versions, just an old copy of 4, so I can't test the exported CR2 in that to see if it breaks there either.

     

     

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