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Well said! Well said!
There is beauty all around us but some folks like those waif thin models with plastic faces I guess! lmao
Can you test Gwinneli
https://www.daz3d.com/gwennili-hd-for-victoria-7
To each his own, but certainly no need to make derogatory comments about someone else's creation as I've seen some do. Kidding is one thing, but I've seen some that definitely weren't kidding. Get's my dander up ;). I'm one of those weird people that loves a pretty face AND an interesting maybe not-so-attractive face - old, young, heavy or thin. I just love seeing what people can do with a 3D figure :)
Laurie
Thanks, and sure, I can test her next. I already brought her over. Still waiting on this render to finish. Testing a bunch of things at once and it's taking a while.
One of the first things that appealed to me about V8 is she looks a little older. But I like to render characters that in my mind are 30 plus.
I agree - although I am sure that I am personally past my "Best Before" date!
A... f'ing... men...!
This one is still going. Trying to get rid of those speckles. This is BD Esther on G8. I used her as the basis of my main character in the Black Kat series. She's on my Unlucky Charm book cover. I did some customizing on my version, this one is just straight Esther. She looks great! She has the "concentration" expression here from the G8 expression pack. Hunter Gear for G3M fits pretty well. There's a bit of pokethrough on the chest straps, which I also got on G3F last time I tried it. Dragonfly hair looks good, needs more posing, but this is just a test. The full body pose is a tweaked version on Aeon Soul's dynamo pose set for G3F. That's a 3Delight set in the background with no tweaking.
I used two scripts in the freebies forum on her: the pose fixer and the one to add lobe specular settings to G3F skins so they can utilize the new shaders. The skin looks really good, but is taking a while to render. Here's a screenshot of the render window. Gotta go out for a while. Hopefully it'll be done when I get back. Renders have been faster since I upgraded, but this one has the quality turned up a bit.
she looks great! I've noticed that specular noise with the new shader too, and havn't been able to get rid of it. It seems more obvious when I use a specualr eye light to get nice eye reflections. Hoping there's a simple solution.
Unfortunately, I have to side with the critics... Promo pics left me uninspired, or even uneasy at times. Certainly some progress seen in certain areas, and within time things will improve, but no out-of-the-box "wow" factor. Hope Daz guys will take note, and give more polish to the future products, which could be immediatelly apparent on the promo pics.
Thanks, Redz! The final version also had those specks in it. I had three photometric spotlights (two of them rims) and an HDRI plus some bloom. I also realized just now that there was a point light that loaded with that 3Delight set. I had thought I'd taken all of the old lights out. Maybe that's causing it. I'll do a render with Gwennili and some different lights plus the new skin settings and see if it shows up again.
I for one am glad these male oil paintings themselves do not find older women attractive as we are safe from the ugly old fools and they have buckly's chance with the young ones they seek so let them have their 3D girls with diallable boobs at least!!
Vicky has never been my favourite character hence not qualifying for the discount.
It depends on the context of the comment
someone said G8 looked over 30 and "old"
I replied that in some cultures women over 30 are considered
less desirable as potential child bearers.
finland study:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/30/dating-age-study-_n_5903804.html
Chinese cultural bias
http://msmagazine.com/blog/2011/11/22/chinas-leftover-women/
Perhaps the person who thought G8 looked 'Old"
was from such a cultural background that gives them such an obvious bias
I used the Sickleyield tutorial, which worked but a bit hard to find things without screenshots. Does someone have a link to the Redz one?
I'm still on the fence about investing in this because I have probably at least a thousand merchant resource morphs for G3. I did try porting over one character on just the base V8 and she looks maybe a slight bit more realistic, but more girl next door than beautiful. For my work I use primarily really gorgeous characters and G8 does look less glamorous to me. I mostly don't need total realism. Anyway here is a custom character with Georgia skin and hair just on free base G8. Still debating if I need any add-ons since I did not get any special discounts although I purchased individually 99% of the bundle stuff from previous Victorias, but not the bundles at once.I really still don't see any advantages to G8/V8... And I don't want to have to buy all the stuff I already own all over again, yet for another generation...
I agree. I don't think age makes a woman less attractive. I am one of the people who doesn't think V8 is that attractive, but that's just me. How old a character looks doesn't bothered me. I actually love it when the characters don't all look like they just got out of highschool.
Projected by....
Hollywood
the music industry
on air news media
The gaming industry
The Fashion Industry
the diet industry
.....and every Daz forum user that inevitably
posts a face closeup of the 20 attractive something
Northern Europeon white girl,
when having a discussion about "Photorealism"
Well, in my case, I live in Hollywood, worked in the film biz, go to fashion and music events all the time and gaming/comic book conferences, so it is MY reality and where I live people are either actors and models or tried to be or used to be (including myself) and now went on to other careers so "regular people" do look like models or actors because they moved to LA to become that. To me, G3 models do look photorealistic because that's what a large percentage of LA people look like... I think it all depends where you live or hang out. Although they are not all white, lots of stunning looking people of all ethnicities here.
Wolf: yes, and it's bad enough that I have to wade through that small minded vapid baloney in every other area of life without having to deal with it when discussing -art-.
People want to make nothing but balloons pinups, fine, but I'd appreciate it if they didn't assume that they were the only ones here.
Ugh. Seriously. I get it from both ends too. Both the "ugh a face that gets lines sometimes! and no poofy lips and more average proportions. How ugly!" and the "Ugh another outfit with a short skirt, what if I don't want my character to look like a prostitue" (there have been several complaint threads about outfits with skirts of the same length of skirts I own in real life... those are just so fun for me! :/)
Ahh the joys of being a lady on the internet
The discussion of the figure needs to be conducted without denigrating real people. I'm sorry that we were slow to catch this but we will be removing any further posts that continue the trend.
Checkout complete. Saved $108 in the process, thanks to my PC+ membership.
We're slowly getting there with Gwennili on G8F (still rendering.) This is a bit grainy, but no bad speckles like the one before: I should probably just stick her in a studio with an HDR for a quick render, but I'm also testing other things here. So it's taking longer...
Don't forget there's a huge opening in the back, much larger than the front window...
Sorry, just catching up with the thread...
-- Walt Sterdan
What impresses me is the flood of work-arounds to the initial roadblocks that turn up *literally* overnight.
Jeez, there are a talented bunch of people in these forums!
Hi @Llynara,
I love what you're doing with applying Genesis 3 Skins to Genesis 8! Every image you've posted in this thread looks fantastic! So much so I decided to buy Victoria 8.
I have a quick question. How are you applying the Genesis 3 eye materials? I've tried what @AprilYSH suggested (https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/comment/2524026/#Comment_2524026), however I'm not having any luck with the appearance of the eyes using non Genesis 8 materials. Could you share your process?
Trish
Well personally I like the actual face shapes, it's always bizarre to hear them called ugly, but I have never liked super heavy smudgy eyeliners and mascara as it detracts from the eyes and in the renders looks blurred in the way I see it in most DAZ ad copy. If used it needs to be fastidiously neat and accurate the eyes, like Elizabeth Taylor in old movies or something.
Part of the issue is judging digital models *as models*. One falls into the habit of expecting them all to *look* like models. As in; the models whose images are being shoved at you from every advertisment or editorial.
Reminds me of a trip to the County Fair some 30+ years ago. There I was in the Fine Arts building, wandering my way through the Photography competition images. I embarassed myself by wondering, only to myself fortunately, where the entrants had found such a pack of homely models.
Then I mentally smacked myself upside the head, and took a second look. The girls in the pictures were almost universally quite attractive girls, *as girls*. But not one of them, even the decidedly pretty ones, looked anything like a professional model.
If you look at an image and expect to see "a model" sometimes you will be disappointed. Models are a specific sub-class of human beings. Most people aren't models.
I love Victoria 8. Great figure, fantastic posing and bends....
Wow...I LOVE it! :) Looks great.
Laurie
Thanks, Trish! Glad you are finding these helpful. I'm having too much fun with them!
Most of the eye materials are loading okay. Usually I just got to Content Library and load the materials from the Genesis 3 Female->Characters folders without any issue. But a few are really funky, like Anneka's glowing eyes:
(For some reason, Gwennili's weren't a problem. Go figure.)
I don't know exactly what they changed with the eyes, or why some work perfectly out of the box and some don't.
G3 to G8 Eye Material Workaround
So far this has been succesful so far on the ones I've had trouble with:
(Please redo images to not show maps if you wish to replace them. ~mods)