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  • fullerdbfullerdb Posts: 75

    Look, people, this is going off the mark. An update has gone awry. These things happen. I will apologise to Bluejaunte if they think that anything I wrote here is inadvertently offensive to them. I just hope that anybody who can help acts to find a quick solution so that everybody can go back to using this great plugin.

    If anybody wants to discuss the philosophy of software distribution, they can start a new thread and invite me. This is not the place. Thank you; sorry; see you all around.

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 110,826

    fullerdb said:

    I don't think it is fair to make this the user's fault.

    It seems to be a Daz fault, which we hope they will speedily fix. If you did have backups it would have let you recover from the effect of the error while waiting for an actual fix - but I certainly don't hae room to preach as I don't back up my multiple terrabytes of content installers..

  • jmucchiellojmucchiello Posts: 1,724
    edited July 12

    Richard Haseltine said:

    fullerdb said:

    I don't think it is fair to make this the user's fault.

    It seems to be a Daz fault, which we hope they will speedily fix. If you did have backups it would have let you recover from the effect of the error while waiting for an actual fix - but I certainly don't hae room to preach as I don't back up my multiple terrabytes of content installers..

    Even though we know what the issue is, should all who were affected file a ticket? Would that raise the visibility of the issue and perhaps get a solution out faster? Or would that have no affect? (I'm assuming someone has already filed a ticket, of course.)

    Post edited by jmucchiello on
  • bluejauntebluejaunte Posts: 2,178

    All good to be annoyed. Certainly no hard feelings from me :)

    I'd hope it gets fixed Monday. If urgent hit me up with some kind of proof of ownership, screenshot or something, and I'll hook you up with the zips. Or subscribe to my Patreon (still free), get on the Discord and message me there.

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 110,826

    jmucchiello said:

    Richard Haseltine said:

    fullerdb said:

    I don't think it is fair to make this the user's fault.

    It seems to be a Daz fault, which we hope they will speedily fix. If you did have backups it would have let you recover from the effect of the error while waiting for an actual fix - but I certainly don't hae room to preach as I don't back up my multiple terrabytes of content installers..

    Even though we know what the issue is, should all who were affected file a ticket? Would that raise the visibility of the issue and perhaps get a solution out faster? Or would that have no affect? (I'm assuming someone has already filed a ticket, of course.)

    No, the PA is aware and on the case and the update should be available to all users without needing any furthe action.

  • barbultbarbult Posts: 27,211
    Richard Haseltine said:

    fullerdb said:

    I don't think it is fair to make this the user's fault.

    It seems to be a Daz fault, which we hope they will speedily fix. If you did have backups it would have let you recover from the effect of the error while waiting for an actual fix - but I certainly don't hae room to preach as I don't back up my multiple terrabytes of content installers..

    I have my PC back up automatically every day to a Synology NAS. It is painless (other than cost of the NAS and discs) and has saved me several times. This is how I easily recovered my DS4 BJ plugins. I think this is a good backup plan for your terabytes of content. Once setup, you don't have to remember to do anything. If something like this bad DIM file erases files, you can go back a day,multiple days, month(s), or longer, depending on how you've setup your retention policy.
  • garrett_3dgarrett_3d Posts: 611

    Slightly off topic, but @barbult , how do you get on with the Synology? I'm in the market for a NAS and I see mixed reviews on them.

  • Umi no Senshi no IshiUmi no Senshi no Ishi Posts: 338

    Darn came here to solve this problem and saw the warning too late.

    For those preaching backups, did you just reinstall the previous install package for shelf? 

    Or are you talking a full reinstall of a backup of Daz Studio?

    I do backup all my stuff on Synology NAS, but I don't want to make things worse by installing the wrong thing.

    I can wait if I need to and deal with the annoyance for a short time if it's required to do a full install.

  • TugpsxTugpsx Posts: 897

    Umi no Senshi no Ishi said:

    Darn came here to solve this problem and saw the warning too late.

    For those preaching backups, did you just reinstall the previous install package for shelf? 

    Or are you talking a full reinstall of a backup of Daz Studio?

    I do backup all my stuff on Synology NAS, but I don't want to make things worse by installing the wrong thing.

    I can wait if I need to and deal with the annoyance for a short time if it's required to do a full install.

    Just extract the .dll file from the zip file and place it in DS4 plugins folder. If you are not backing up the DIM files but backing up your Daz Studio folder, extract restore that bjshelf DLL file only back to the Daz plugin folder.  

  • bluejauntebluejaunte Posts: 2,178

    I just got a notification that it went live in the store. Can you guys try again if that fixed anything?

  • Umi no Senshi no IshiUmi no Senshi no Ishi Posts: 338
    edited July 13

    @tugpsx, thank you, i'll give that a go.

    Thank you very much. Copying it over worked and all my saved items in the shelf are there.

    Post edited by Umi no Senshi no Ishi on
  • bluejauntebluejaunte Posts: 2,178

    Keep in mind to get your shelf items into DS6 you can export shelf data in DS4 (right-click empty space in tab area) and then import them in DS6 (right-click same area).

  • bluejauntebluejaunte Posts: 2,178

    Ok there's various miscommunications going on, I'm not sure how long this will take now so if you need DS4 version just message me.

  • LauritaLaurita Posts: 285

    Read this thread , thought it was safe to update now - lost BJShelf. :-(

  • jmucchiellojmucchiello Posts: 1,724

    bluejaunte said:

    I just got a notification that it went live in the store. Can you guys try again if that fixed anything?

    DIM says the file date is July 10 for all four of your plugins that I own. Is that correct?

  • bluejauntebluejaunte Posts: 2,178

    jmucchiello said:

    bluejaunte said:

    I just got a notification that it went live in the store. Can you guys try again if that fixed anything?

    DIM says the file date is July 10 for all four of your plugins that I own. Is that correct?

    Sounds about right for when the DS6 versions were packaged. Problem is DS4 versions get deleted when you install them.
  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 110,826

    barbult said:

    Richard Haseltine said:

    fullerdb said:

    I don't think it is fair to make this the user's fault.

    It seems to be a Daz fault, which we hope they will speedily fix. If you did have backups it would have let you recover from the effect of the error while waiting for an actual fix - but I certainly don't hae room to preach as I don't back up my multiple terrabytes of content installers..

    I have my PC back up automatically every day to a Synology NAS. It is painless (other than cost of the NAS and discs) and has saved me several times. This is how I easily recovered my DS4 BJ plugins. I think this is a good backup plan for your terabytes of content. Once setup, you don't have to remember to do anything. If something like this bad DIM file erases files, you can go back a day,multiple days, month(s), or longer, depending on how you've setup your retention policy.

    We did have a NAS a few years ago, but it relied on a connection to the maker and that became unreliable (this seemed to be a common issue with the model). Not that its maximum disc size would have been much help anyway. I do keep planning to replace it with a new one, but the connection issue has left me wary. 

  • barbultbarbult Posts: 27,211
    garrett_3d said:

    Slightly off topic, but @barbult , how do you get on with the Synology? I'm in the market for a NAS and I see mixed reviews on them.

    I have had a Synology NAS for several years. I upgraded to a new one a year or so ago. Now I run both. I have been pleased with them. Their customer support has been excellent, too. They are very capable devices. I probably only use a tiny fraction of their capability. There is a lot that I don't even know what the terminology means. That hasn't stopped me from using the small part I want to use.
  • bluejauntebluejaunte Posts: 2,178

    I have a pretty old Synology NAS at this point. Still works great. Recently they got pretty bad press though because they would only allow their own brand harddrives, which is unneccessary and pissed everyone off. I think there's probably better options now.

  • barbultbarbult Posts: 27,211
    edited 12:37AM
    I believe they have changed that restrictive disc policy. I did populate my newest NAS with their discs and have had no problems, for what that's worth.
    Post edited by barbult at
  • bluejauntebluejaunte Posts: 2,178

    Ah ok yeah maybe that's over with.

  • DasTriDasTri Posts: 213

    To just make that plain for all who tinker now with reinstalling their old backups:

    All you need to copy into the "plugins/" directory are the

    • dsp_BJ_SelectionHistory.dll
    • dsp_BJ_Shelf.dll

    No need to touch anything else. Copy the exsting files into a backup-directory or straight to V6.

    Thanks to fullerdb for pointing that out.

    And once this hassle is over I will repeat my suggestions here to make this tool even better. Seems they got swamped a bit. Good luck!

     

     

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