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  • CybersoxCybersox Posts: 9,639

    ANGELREAPER1972 said:

    Cybersox said:

    Blando Calrissian said:

    Is an archaeologist's tent really an archaeologist's tent if there are no empty cans of Coors Banquet and Ro-Tel scattered about? laugh

    This one has a nice old-school Indiana Jones vibe to it. Looking forward to pairing it with some of my ancient Egypt stuff.

    Contrary to what movies might have you believe, a large portion of the world's archeologists are not from the U.S., and therefore have access to much better beers than Coors (though young Brits and Irish seem to like it), while Rotel is only sold in the U.S. and Canada.  As a noted Australian once noted, American beers are like urinating in a canoe, ie:"pissin close to water."  

    I've often heard American beers are weaker compared to our Australian beers and others

    The alcohol content difference is not really that great, on average, but there's no denying that many mainstream mass-manufactured U.S. beers like Bud and Coors are generally lacking in flavor compared to craft beers and their european counterparts.    

  • jmucchiellojmucchiello Posts: 1,301

    What is with the bug-eyed Shooting Stars?

     

  • ANGELREAPER1972ANGELREAPER1972 Posts: 4,714

    jmucchiello said:

    What is with the bug-eyed Shooting Stars?

     

    they be toon characters

  • jmucchiellojmucchiello Posts: 1,301

    ANGELREAPER1972 said:

    jmucchiello said:

    What is with the bug-eyed Shooting Stars?

    they be toon characters

    If only there was a rendering engine specifcally for toon renders that could be used with these monstrosities. 

    I know they're toon characters. I have no use for them. And they've been the only thing available for days now. I don't expect everything to be to my taste. But I find it disappointing that they think to put a toon for sale but don't support filament when they do it.

    Asha seems to be the last DO character that had any filament support. That was August. And she hasn't been part of the Premiere character bundle offer for a while now.

  • ANGELREAPER1972ANGELREAPER1972 Posts: 4,714
    edited April 4

    so I'm a little confused about the Conveniant Underwear https://www.daz3d.com/convenient-underwear-for-genesis-9-and-8-female ; product ok they are geo shells apparently like the sexy skinz and other products which are handy to use on characters with semi transparent clothing or slightly revealing where as normal underwear clothing sometimes causes poke through or when deforced explosions. But the previews to promote the product with clothing don't show anything or at least the clothing used don't need benifit from this there is even one of a normal bikini and not a skimpy small one also what is with the arrows where they are positioned pointing no part of the underwear would be displayed anyway so basicly as a product used as is is makes sense and good to have like sexy skinz and others but the promos don't make sense but there has been changes again in what is allowed to be viewed so maybe couldn't show it under semi transparent clothing to promote it better

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  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 40,866

    I think it's showing the morphs

    the clothing is just a bonus for a garment producing those morphs

  • ANGELREAPER1972ANGELREAPER1972 Posts: 4,714

    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    I think it's showing the morphs

    the clothing is just a bonus for a garment producing those morphs

    mmmm looking closer you could be right cleavage does look more pushed together in some so that makes sense and usefull for realism but the belly arrows can't tell still the differences

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 110,154

    ANGELREAPER1972 said:

    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    I think it's showing the morphs

    the clothing is just a bonus for a garment producing those morphs

    mmmm looking closer you could be right cleavage does look more pushed together in some so that makes sense and usefull for realism but the belly arrows can't tell still the differences

    I don't think the arrows are meant to be pointing at a specific area to highlight the morph effect, just saying "from this to this" in general.

  • caravellecaravelle Posts: 2,716

    Not that I needed just one more female character for Genesis 9, but I really like V3D Jolie HD for Genesis 9 . A natural, distinctive face, a far cry from the usual “sexy” dolls.

  • barbultbarbult Posts: 26,861
    caravelle said:

    Not that I needed just one more female character for Genesis 9, but I really like V3D Jolie HD for Genesis 9 . A natural, distinctive face, a far cry from the usual “sexy” dolls.

    Yes, so nice to see someone who looks like a "normal" person.
  • CybersoxCybersox Posts: 9,639

    jmucchiello said:

    ANGELREAPER1972 said:

    jmucchiello said:

    What is with the bug-eyed Shooting Stars?

    they be toon characters

    If only there was a rendering engine specifcally for toon renders that could be used with these monstrosities. 

    I know they're toon characters. I have no use for them. And they've been the only thing available for days now. I don't expect everything to be to my taste. But I find it disappointing that they think to put a toon for sale but don't support filament when they do it.

    Um... given that all of these MM $2.99 characters don't really have skins of their own, as they're essentially morph only characters that come with presets to reuse the generic G9 base skins, I'd be surprised if DAZ went to the trouble and effort of creating Filatoon specific skins for them when they didn't do new skins for any of the others.  That said, there's no reason that you can't you can't use an existing filatoon ready skin or use the base Filatoon shaders, which is really what anyone buying any of the MM special characters will end up doing eventually anyway..     

     

  • CybersoxCybersox Posts: 9,639

    jmucchiello said:

     

    Asha seems to be the last DO character that had any filament support. That was August. And she hasn't been part of the Premiere character bundle offer for a while now.

    Over the years, I've noticed that DAZ has a habit of tossing out new product technology and then relying mainly on the PAs to adopt it and make it work or not, and there has only been a small handful of artists supporting Filatoon at all, a pool that got even smaller with Oso's recent departure.  Not supporting Filatoon with DO characters is sadly, therefore, really not unexpected.  On the other hand, at least there are some Filatoon products being made and sold on other sites, including Renderosity and Renderotica.   

  • CybersoxCybersox Posts: 9,639

    barbult said:

    caravelle said:

    Not that I needed just one more female character for Genesis 9, but I really like V3D Jolie HD for Genesis 9 . A natural, distinctive face, a far cry from the usual “sexy” dolls.

    Yes, so nice to see someone who looks like a "normal" person.

    GIven how many VCD characters are based on celebrities, the question is which "normal" person is she? :) 

  • davesodaveso Posts: 8,038

    Cybersox said:

    barbult said:

    caravelle said:

    Not that I needed just one more female character for Genesis 9, but I really like V3D Jolie HD for Genesis 9 . A natural, distinctive face, a far cry from the usual “sexy” dolls.

    Yes, so nice to see someone who looks like a "normal" person.

    GIven how many VCD characters are based on celebrities, the question is which "normal" person is she? :) 

    she does look like and actress,. Its on the tip of my brain stem. It will come to me.  

  • butterflyfishbutterflyfish Posts: 1,601

    daveso said:

    Cybersox said:

    barbult said:

    caravelle said:

    Not that I needed just one more female character for Genesis 9, but I really like V3D Jolie HD for Genesis 9 . A natural, distinctive face, a far cry from the usual “sexy” dolls.

    Yes, so nice to see someone who looks like a "normal" person.

    GIven how many VCD characters are based on celebrities, the question is which "normal" person is she? :) 

    she does look like and actress,. Its on the tip of my brain stem. It will come to me.  

    The celebrity look alike thread says Aubrey Plaza 

  • davesodaveso Posts: 8,038

    butterflyfish said:

    daveso said:

    Cybersox said:

    barbult said:

    caravelle said:

    Not that I needed just one more female character for Genesis 9, but I really like V3D Jolie HD for Genesis 9 . A natural, distinctive face, a far cry from the usual “sexy” dolls.

    Yes, so nice to see someone who looks like a "normal" person.

    GIven how many VCD characters are based on celebrities, the question is which "normal" person is she? :) 

    she does look like and actress,. Its on the tip of my brain stem. It will come to me.  

    The celebrity look alike thread says Aubrey Plaza 

    YES ! that's who I was thinking of.  

  • memcneil70memcneil70 Posts: 5,815

    I had never heard of her, so I Googled her name. She looks like a normal person to me. And one who has had a tough life. 

  • barbultbarbult Posts: 26,861

    Cybersox said:

    barbult said:

    caravelle said:

    Not that I needed just one more female character for Genesis 9, but I really like V3D Jolie HD for Genesis 9 . A natural, distinctive face, a far cry from the usual “sexy” dolls.

    Yes, so nice to see someone who looks like a "normal" person.

    GIven how many VCD characters are based on celebrities, the question is which "normal" person is she? :) 

    Well, heck, I thought someone had created someone new. So much for that. 

  • jmucchiellojmucchiello Posts: 1,301

    Cybersox said:

    jmucchiello said:

     

    Asha seems to be the last DO character that had any filament support. That was August. And she hasn't been part of the Premiere character bundle offer for a while now.

    Over the years, I've noticed that DAZ has a habit of tossing out new product technology and then relying mainly on the PAs to adopt it and make it work or not, and there has only been a small handful of artists supporting Filatoon at all, a pool that got even smaller with Oso's recent departure.  Not supporting Filatoon with DO characters is sadly, therefore, really not unexpected.  On the other hand, at least there are some Filatoon products being made and sold on other sites, including Renderosity and Renderotica.   

    There are 2 filatoon characters, that I could find, on Renderosity. 8 or 9 at Renderhub. And slightly more at Renderotica. Apparently Filament is very popular among the PAs. Probably because Daz doesn't push it at all. I would have thought the loss of the 3Delight license, they would lean on Filament. So far, not so much.

    And even if other websites had a decent filament presence, I've spent a ton of money here because the prices are better here, for me. Sales at those other sites just don't compare.

     

     

  • CybersoxCybersox Posts: 9,639

    jmucchiello said:

    Cybersox said:

    jmucchiello said:

     

    Asha seems to be the last DO character that had any filament support. That was August. And she hasn't been part of the Premiere character bundle offer for a while now.

    Over the years, I've noticed that DAZ has a habit of tossing out new product technology and then relying mainly on the PAs to adopt it and make it work or not, and there has only been a small handful of artists supporting Filatoon at all, a pool that got even smaller with Oso's recent departure.  Not supporting Filatoon with DO characters is sadly, therefore, really not unexpected.  On the other hand, at least there are some Filatoon products being made and sold on other sites, including Renderosity and Renderotica.   

    There are 2 filatoon characters, that I could find, on Renderosity. 8 or 9 at Renderhub. And slightly more at Renderotica. Apparently Filament is very popular among the PAs. Probably because Daz doesn't push it at all. I would have thought the loss of the 3Delight license, they would lean on Filament. So far, not so much.

    And even if other websites had a decent filament presence, I've spent a ton of money here because the prices are better here, for me. Sales at those other sites just don't compare.

    Rendo is fairly light, and some of what they have you have to look at carefully like Chaaos Queen-world's Pia for G9, where the filament skin versions are shown in some of the promo shots but the specification that there is a seperate set of filament skins is only listed way down in the materials section, and Yomoran's Yururi, whch is a G8F character with Filatoon skin option.  I thought Tri-X that had released a FIlatoon figure on Rendo recently, but I went back and checked and whilke it is a toon character with a seperate toon skin, it's a special one made for Iray.  'Rotica definitely has shown the most interest in FIlatoon from what I've seen... but I'll admit that I'm not really much of a user of either filament or filatoon, so a lot of what I notice is just stuff that happens to catch my eye while scrolling through the stores. 

    Obviously DAZ usually has the cheapest prices, but price isn't the only thing I care about and I feel that the catch with only buying at DAZ is that it's putting all of one's eggs in one basket and hoping DAZ's interests will go where you want.  As it is, there are a lot of the now top DAZ PAs who got their start at the other stores, and there are now many of my favorite DAZ PAs who are now selling elsewhere, so I don't mind spending a little more if it encourages the production of the kind of products I like.  Sure, you can get just about everything you want at WalMart, but would anyone really want to have WalMart as the only store they can go to?       

  • davesodaveso Posts: 8,038

    Cybersox said:

    jmucchiello said:

    Cybersox said:

    jmucchiello said:

     

    Asha seems to be the last DO character that had any filament support. That was August. And she hasn't been part of the Premiere character bundle offer for a while now.

    Over the years, I've noticed that DAZ has a habit of tossing out new product technology and then relying mainly on the PAs to adopt it and make it work or not, and there has only been a small handful of artists supporting Filatoon at all, a pool that got even smaller with Oso's recent departure.  Not supporting Filatoon with DO characters is sadly, therefore, really not unexpected.  On the other hand, at least there are some Filatoon products being made and sold on other sites, including Renderosity and Renderotica.   

    There are 2 filatoon characters, that I could find, on Renderosity. 8 or 9 at Renderhub. And slightly more at Renderotica. Apparently Filament is very popular among the PAs. Probably because Daz doesn't push it at all. I would have thought the loss of the 3Delight license, they would lean on Filament. So far, not so much.

    And even if other websites had a decent filament presence, I've spent a ton of money here because the prices are better here, for me. Sales at those other sites just don't compare.

    Rendo is fairly light, and some of what they have you have to look at carefully like Chaaos Queen-world's Pia for G9, where the filament skin versions are shown in some of the promo shots but the specification that there is a seperate set of filament skins is only listed way down in the materials section, and Yomoran's Yururi, whch is a G8F character with Filatoon skin option.  I thought Tri-X that had released a FIlatoon figure on Rendo recently, but I went back and checked and whilke it is a toon character with a seperate toon skin, it's a special one made for Iray.  'Rotica definitely has shown the most interest in FIlatoon from what I've seen... but I'll admit that I'm not really much of a user of either filament or filatoon, so a lot of what I notice is just stuff that happens to catch my eye while scrolling through the stores. 

    Obviously DAZ usually has the cheapest prices, but price isn't the only thing I care about and I feel that the catch with only buying at DAZ is that it's putting all of one's eggs in one basket and hoping DAZ's interests will go where you want.  As it is, there are a lot of the now top DAZ PAs who got their start at the other stores, and there are now many of my favorite DAZ PAs who are now selling elsewhere, so I don't mind spending a little more if it encourages the production of the kind of products I like.  Sure, you can get just about everything you want at WalMart, but would anyone really want to have WalMart as the only store they can go to?       

    why its important to spread the wealth a bit.  I would like to see some competition. 

  • cheardcheard Posts: 121

    So https://www.daz3d.com/li-the-magic-rug--retexturizer looks really cool, but the product description references an apparently different product called LI The Magic Rug – Shader Presets, which … doesn’t seem to exist at present? (At least not in the shop.)

  • ANGELREAPER1972ANGELREAPER1972 Posts: 4,714

    Cybersox said:

    barbult said:

    caravelle said:

    Not that I needed just one more female character for Genesis 9, but I really like V3D Jolie HD for Genesis 9 . A natural, distinctive face, a far cry from the usual “sexy” dolls.

    Yes, so nice to see someone who looks like a "normal" person.

    GIven how many VCD characters are based on celebrities, the question is which "normal" person is she? :) 

    reminds me of Aubrey Plaza even google lense thinks so

  • jmucchiellojmucchiello Posts: 1,301

    Cybersox said:

    Obviously DAZ usually has the cheapest prices, but price isn't the only thing I care about and I feel that the catch with only buying at DAZ is that it's putting all of one's eggs in one basket and hoping DAZ's interests will go where you want.  As it is, there are a lot of the now top DAZ PAs who got their start at the other stores, and there are now many of my favorite DAZ PAs who are now selling elsewhere, so I don't mind spending a little more if it encourages the production of the kind of products I like.  Sure, you can get just about everything you want at WalMart, but would anyone really want to have WalMart as the only store they can go to?       

    It's kind of hard not to use the Daz shop when it has the best prices especially when all the products involved are for the Daz Studio application.

    The promotions at Renderosity, even if you buy Prime, aren't even half as good as the daz shop sales. I did have Prime for a year. And I probably bought duplicate products a couple times without realizing it.

    But this has nothing to do with Toon. And the lack of DO support for it. The lack of DO support is my main disappointment.

  • memcneil70memcneil70 Posts: 5,815

    cheard said:

    So https://www.daz3d.com/li-the-magic-rug--retexturizer looks really cool, but the product description references an apparently different product called LI The Magic Rug – Shader Presets, which … doesn’t seem to exist at present? (At least not in the shop.)

    This? https://www.daz3d.com/li-the-magic-rug--construction-shaders-01

    It came out on the first trounch of products for this line of products. All of them use it. 

  • barbultbarbult Posts: 26,861

    I don't understand why it is called Magic Rug. Where is the rug? Where's tha magic?

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 110,154

    barbult said:

    I don't understand why it is called Magic Rug. Where is the rug? Where's tha magic?

    Maybe the idea is that it is like a magic toupe that adjusts to fit any head?

  • barbultbarbult Posts: 26,861

    barbult said:

    I don't understand why it is called Magic Rug. Where is the rug? Where's tha magic?

    Maybe the idea is that it is like a magic toupe that adjusts to fit any head?

    Interesting idea, but don't see any heads or toupees, in those products either. I just don't get it.
  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 110,154

    barbult said:

    Richard Haseltine said:

    barbult said:

    I don't understand why it is called Magic Rug. Where is the rug? Where's tha magic?

    Maybe the idea is that it is like a magic toupe that adjusts to fit any head?

    Interesting idea, but don't see any heads or toupees, in those products either. I just don't get it.

    I was being metaphorical  with a slight tinge of sarcasm - though I suppose you could say it is for filing in any bald spots in the scene.

  • CybersoxCybersox Posts: 9,639

    jmucchiello said:

    Cybersox said:

    Obviously DAZ usually has the cheapest prices, but price isn't the only thing I care about and I feel that the catch with only buying at DAZ is that it's putting all of one's eggs in one basket and hoping DAZ's interests will go where you want.  As it is, there are a lot of the now top DAZ PAs who got their start at the other stores, and there are now many of my favorite DAZ PAs who are now selling elsewhere, so I don't mind spending a little more if it encourages the production of the kind of products I like.  Sure, you can get just about everything you want at WalMart, but would anyone really want to have WalMart as the only store they can go to?       

    It's kind of hard not to use the Daz shop when it has the best prices especially when all the products involved are for the Daz Studio application.

    The promotions at Renderosity, even if you buy Prime, aren't even half as good as the daz shop sales. I did have Prime for a year. And I probably bought duplicate products a couple times without realizing it.

    But this has nothing to do with Toon. And the lack of DO support for it. The lack of DO support is my main disappointment.

    Second/main point first - Yes, I agree that it sucks that DAZ hasn't really supported Filatoon with DAZ Originals, but as I noted, it's not unexpected given that they often seem to introduce some new product or feature and then essentially leave it up to the PAs to adopt it and make it popular... or not.  Why that is, if that's really what's going on, isn't something I can conjecture on as I can only make wild guesses based on what I think I've noticed over the years.  All that said, though, I think the best parth forward would beto encourage the PAs to create more add-on skins and shader packs to convert already existing 3DL. Poser, and Iray products to Filatoon as opposed to pushing for the creation of full standalone Filatoon figures, as the store is already overflowing with a few thousand toon and anime style figures already, and it's not like there aren't PAs out there who spend a lot of time creating new texture sets for clothing and hair.  After all, that's basically what happened in the early days of Iray, when there were a lot of conversion sets being made to Iray-ize Genesis 2 products. 

    And that leads into the other point, which is whether the benefit of the prices in one store being cheaper than the prices in another is really such a value if the cheaper store isn't producing enough of the sort of product that you would prefer to see.  In other words, it's one thing to choose based on price alone if everything else is equal, but if the cheaper store isn't supplying something that you specifically want, then it comes down to whether you want  to "save" buying something that's not completely your cup of tea or going elsewhere and supporting a PA who IS creating things you like more for a few extra dollars. Because by doing the latter, you encorage the creation of more products that fall within your interests, whereas by the former you may only encourage the creation of things that may drift further and further away from what you really want.  After all, if the price of a car was the only factor that mattered in buying one, the Nissan Vera would be the number one selling car in the U.S. and nobody would ever buy a Mercedes or Lexus.  Finally, I don't see this as a DAZ versus Other stores thing, but rather one of supporting the PAs whose work you like the most, even if that sometimes means spending a little more to do so.  From everything I've read and heard from PAs talking about "the business" over the years, not many of them are exactly rolling in barrels of cash, so it makes a lot of sense to follow and encourage the ones you want to see keep producing new products, no matter where they may be selling.        

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