I Forgot What My Complaint Was - Complaint Thread

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  • LeatherGryphonLeatherGryphon Posts: 12,416
    edited August 2019

    Complaining non-complaint:  Now that my car is out of service I see avenues closed to me that need work to open them again.  Checking again on the symphony schedule at Chautauqua I see that the Dvorak 7th Symphony will be performed next Tuesday evening. (*sigh*)  Yet another of my favorites.frown  And one that I don't believe I've heard live.  Not as great as his 9th ("From The New World" ), his 7th is, IMHO his next best.  I absolutely love the mysterious themes of the final movement.  Perhaps I can call around and find someone willing to take me and pick me up (20 mile trip 4 times) or go with me.  I'd offer various compensation up to including paying their admission if they wanted to stay and attend themselves.

    First piece of the evening will be the Violin Concerto #1 by Bruch.  Again I'm not a big fan of most violin concertos but this one at least is non-noise, and is actual music and I'm quite familiar with the 3rd (final) movement. 

    Bruch: Violin Concerto #1 (3rd movement) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlFfwsTuDN0  Bold, lively & fun.

     

    Second piece of the evening is the Dvorak 7th Symphony: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8Gk3lGOeUY

    I listened to several YouTubes of this piece and this one impressed me with the music and video quality.  Great performance.  But the conductor looks like he's about to snap in half like a twig as he walks on stage.surprise

    1st movement  00:00  Lilting, adventurous.  Slight hint of mystery near the end of this movement    

    2nd movement 11:53 Quiet, lazy, pensive, short bursts of excitement, moments of revelation & wonder, ends in dreamland.

    3rd movement 22:59  Lively, adventurous, alternating with moments of joyful introspection.  Ends with decent into the final adventure.

    4th movement 31:09  Mysterious throughout.  Especially at four magic moments:  34:54, 36:40, 39:25, and the grand finale at 40:03  Mysteries resolved one by one.

    Somewhere in the 4th movement the conductor gets a big satisfied smile on his face (38:34).  Good job guys.

     

        

     

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  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675

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    oh so happy buppies

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  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675

    Khajiit tails are wagging 

    sky is rumbling. Expecting sky to dump any minute

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675

    Luv it when a zombie drops gold. But weird. A zombie has no needs why di they have gold?

    or they just like the shiny like austriches

  • McGyverMcGyver Posts: 7,101
    Mystarra said:

    Khajiit tails are wagging 

    sky is rumbling. Expecting sky to dump any minute

    I barely finished putting up one section of the stockade fence crushed by a fallen tree during that last big storm before it started booming and pouring.

    I suspect that having lots of power tools outside caused the downpour.

  • LeatherGryphonLeatherGryphon Posts: 12,416
    edited August 2019

    Power tools, outside, rain, yup.  Sounds like a thing. surprise

    I lost my backyard fence once in the '70s.  Picture it, Florida, summer, early morning, I wake up to proverbial weird green skys then wind roaring like a train in the air then crack-whomp-crack, neighbor's tree in my yard, top of tree three feet from my bedroom window, my fence crushed.  One mile away the planes at the airport were upside down on the runway.  I don't remember how the tree got disappeared but I do remember repairing the fence myself.frown  Oh the brighter side, digging post holes in east coast Florida is easy.  All sand.  A few quick thrusts of a post hole digger tool and you're good to go.  I built a fence in the middle of Washington, DC back in the '80s.  Wasn't nearly that easy, I kept finding things under the ground, like concrete chunks, old iron fence parts, glass, plaster, wood chunks, gas lines, took me weeks to finish the fence.sad

    On a more up-to-date note;  Wheee..., I've got neighbors again.  They've started moving things into the apartment in the other half of this house.  But, sigh, two crying kids about 4 or 5. sad

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  • McGyverMcGyver Posts: 7,101

    Power tools, outside, rain, yup.  Sounds like a thing. surprise

    I lost my backyard fence once in the '70s.  Picture it, Florida, summer, early morning, I wake up to proverbial weird green skys then wind roaring like a train in the air then crack-whomp-crack, neighbor's tree in my yard, top of tree three feet from my bedroom window, my fence crushed.  One mile away the planes at the airport were upside down on the runway.  I don't remember how the tree got disappeared but I do remember repairing the fence myself.frown  Oh the brighter side, digging post holes in east coast Florida is easy.  All sand.  A few quick thrusts of a post hole digger tool and you're good to go.  I built a fence in the middle of Washington, DC back in the '80s.  Wasn't nearly that easy, I kept finding things under the ground, like concrete chunks, old iron fence parts, glass, plaster, wood chunks , took me weeks to finish the fence.sad

    On a more up-to-date note;  Wheee..., I've got neighbors again.  They've started moving things into the apartment in the other half of this house.  But, sigh, two crying kids about 4 or 5. sad

    Long Island’s south shore is mostly sand... unless I dig a hole, then it’s solid orange clay... it’s like digging in freshly set concrete... on the plus side, if you don’t die digging the hole, the post is set solid after a couple of rain cycles.

    There is a small area in the back of my yard that’s like your DC property... (it was probably a trash pile before they got garbage pickup in the 60s)... every time I dig there I find stuff from the 20s and 30s... mostly it’s weird stuff like old timey bed springs, door hinges, tiles... one thing has me totally stumped... a very large diameter spoked wheel... like a motorcycle, but way too large diameter... too narrow for a car... too heavy duty for a bicycle... maybe it was from a vendor cart... like a fruit stand or something?

  • DanaTADanaTA Posts: 13,400
    edited August 2019
    McGyver said:

     

    There is a small area in the back of my yard that’s like your DC property... (it was probably a trash pile before they got garbage pickup in the 60s)... every time I dig there I find stuff from the 20s and 30s... mostly it’s weird stuff like old timey bed springs, door hinges, tiles... one thing has me totally stumped... a very large diameter spoked wheel... like a motorcycle, but way too large diameter... too narrow for a car... too heavy duty for a bicycle... maybe it was from a vendor cart... like a fruit stand or something?

    It could be from a very early car.  I've seen photos of cars with spoked wheels that were very narrow...looked like bicycle wheels, but a little larger and heavier, but not by a lot.

    Then again, I've seen photos of bicycles that looked to heavy to pedal up a mild incline hill!

    Dana

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  • WinterMoonWinterMoon Posts: 2,016
    edited August 2019

    I've got a question for those of you who are in the habit of reading books. After I made an off-hand joke in another thread, I got thinking. If you were considering reading a rather long book by a new, unknown author, what would you find least offputting: A single brick of a novel, or three separate volumes where only one has a proper beginning, only one has a proper end, and one has neither? I'm co-authoring a novel with a friend. She's of the opinion that people are scared of big books, so publishers will be likely to refuse it if we try to publish it as a single novel. Myself, I kind of think that books that just cut off abruptly are very face!palm. It's all one continous story, there's no "Part 1-3" in terms of narrative, and I really don't want to have to break it up. This will be my "virgin" novel, while my friend has written several before, all refused by publishers (for reasons other than lenght). We don't know much about publishing at all.

     

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  • LeatherGryphonLeatherGryphon Posts: 12,416
    edited August 2019
    TigerAnne said:

    I've got a question for those of you who are in the habit of reading books. After I made an off-hand joke in another thread, I got thinking. If you were considering reading a rather long book by a new, unknown author, what would you find least offputting: A single brick of a novel, or three separate volumes where only one has a proper beginning, only one has a proper end, and one has neither? I'm co-authoring a novel with a friend. She's of the opinion that people are scared of big books, so publishers will be likely to refuse it if we try to publish it as a single novel. Myself, I kind of think that books that just cut off abruptly are very face!palm. It's all one continous story, there's no "Part 1-3" in terms of narrative, and I really don't want to have to break it up. This will be my "virgin" novel, while my friend has written several before, all refused by publishers (for reasons other than lenght). We don't know much about publishing at all.

     

    Personally if the first book left me hanging and I saw two more tomes ahead of me I wouldn't buy the second or third book.  The story should come to some sort of satisfactory resolution near the end of the 1st book.  Then perhaps a short (very short) hook for the second part of the story.  Ditto for the others.  I sort of think that the potential publisher would notice that too.

    Big (single volume) books unless they are really really good or from a known source are not on the top of my list.  Not even as doorstops.  You have to get the fly into the web before you can suck his juices.  In conclusion, change the plot.

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  • WinterMoonWinterMoon Posts: 2,016

    In conclusion, change the plot.

    That's the one thing that's not going to happen. We did over a year's worth of preparations before we started writing, and if we have to change the plot after 18 months of work, I think my friend would just about give up. Both on the book and on life. She's currently not in a good place. Personally, I don't care if it gets published.

     

  • ChoholeChohole Posts: 33,604
    edited August 2019
    TigerAnne said:

    In conclusion, change the plot.

    That's the one thing that's not going to happen. We did over a year's worth of preparations before we started writing, and if we have to change the plot after 18 months of work, I think my friend would just about give up. Both on the book and on life. She's currently not in a good place. Personally, I don't care if it gets published.

     

    I like books in series.   Think of people who for various reasons find it difficult to handle a huge chunk of book and yet prefer real books rather than reading things on what is basically a computer screen as in ebooks. It is not too difficult, surely, to add a coulpe of sentences, or even just a few words at the beginning and end to draw the books together.  End is easiest,  ad a cliff hanger comment, so they really want to buy the next book to see what is going to happen next.   An Auther like Robin Hobb is very good at doing that.   She manages to keep you focused on following her even when she ends a series.  There is always a possibility that she will pick up the story again. Tad Williams is another one.  His trilogy Memory Sorrw and Thorn is a trilogy in Hard back, but 4 books in paperback as the 3rd volume was just way to long (over 520,000 words) to be printed in one book in mass market paperback format. So it was split into 2 books. To Green Angel Tower book 1   and to Green Angel Tower book 2  (sub titles Siege and Storm)  they managed to do that seamlessly.

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  • WinterMoonWinterMoon Posts: 2,016
    edited August 2019
    Chohole said:

    I like books in series.   Think of people who for various reasons find it difficult to handle a huge chunk of book and yet prefer real books rather than reading things on what is basically a computer screen as in ebooks. It is not too difficult, surely, to add a coulpe of sentences, or even just a few words at the beginning and end to draw the books together.  End is easiest,  ad a cliff hanger comment, so they really want to buy the next book to see what is going to happen next.   An Auther like Robin Hobb is very good at doing that.   She manages to keep you focused on following her even when she ends a series.  There is always a possibility that she will pick up the story again. Tad Williams is another one.  His trilogy Memory Sorrw and Thorn is a trilogy in Hard back, but 4 books in paperback as the 3rd volume was just way to long (over 520,000 words) to be printed in one book in mass market paperback format. So it was split into 2 books. To Green Angel Tower book 1   and to Green Angel Tower book 2  (sub titles Siege and Storm)  they managed to do that seamlessly.

    Well, it's actually planned as a series, but it's the first book out of three she wants to split up into yet another three. We may end up with a triology of triologies here. If we do it that way, there's no way we can make the first book (Book 1, part 1 of 3) a standalone novel, though. The publisher will have to okay us for a series, and I'm not so sure that will happen, even if we have all three parts written in advance. But as I said, I don't know anything about publishing. Heck, I don't even read books. I buy them, but I hardly ever read them anymore.

     

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  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675
    edited August 2019
    DanaTA said:
    McGyver said:

     

    There is a small area in the back of my yard that’s like your DC property... (it was probably a trash pile before they got garbage pickup in the 60s)... every time I dig there I find stuff from the 20s and 30s... mostly it’s weird stuff like old timey bed springs, door hinges, tiles... one thing has me totally stumped... a very large diameter spoked wheel... like a motorcycle, but way too large diameter... too narrow for a car... too heavy duty for a bicycle... maybe it was from a vendor cart... like a fruit stand or something?

    It could be from a very early car.  I've seen photos of cars with spoked wheels that were very narrow...looked like bicycle wheels, but a little larger and heavier, but not by a lot.

    Then again, I've seen photos of bicycles that looked to heavy to pedal up a mild incline hill!

    Dana

    horse and carriage wheel?

    when i first moved to huntington, down the road had a still working deer farm C.1750 (poor deers) for restaurants serving venison.

    the owner used tohitch up his horse, would see horse and carriage trotting by on sundays.

    the local joke was, the would be drunk driving but the horse knew the way home.

    gave the dogs something to bark at, so i never missed it going by, lol.

    it got taken over by some historical group. no more deers, good for the deer, but so sad it's over.
    they do a sunflower maze every summer.  and spooky trails for halloween, and a not so spooky trail.

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  • ChoholeChohole Posts: 33,604
    edited August 2019
    TigerAnne said:
    Chohole said:

    I like books in series.   Think of people who for various reasons find it difficult to handle a huge chunk of book and yet prefer real books rather than reading things on what is basically a computer screen as in ebooks. It is not too difficult, surely, to add a coulpe of sentences, or even just a few words at the beginning and end to draw the books together.  End is easiest,  ad a cliff hanger comment, so they really want to buy the next book to see what is going to happen next.   An Auther like Robin Hobb is very good at doing that.   She manages to keep you focused on following her even when she ends a series.  There is always a possibility that she will pick up the story again. Tad Williams is another one.  His trilogy Memory Sorrw and Thorn is a trilogy in Hard back, but 4 books in paperback as the 3rd volume was just way to long (over 520,000 words) to be printed in one book in mass market paperback format. So it was split into 2 books. To Green Angel Tower book 1   and to Green Angel Tower book 2  (sub titles Siege and Storm)  they managed to do that seamlessly.

    Well, it's actually planned as a series, but it's the first book out of three she wants to split up into yet another three. We may end up with a triology of triologies here. If we do it that way, there's no way we can make the first book (Book 1, part 1 of 3) a standalone novel, though. The publisher will have to okay us for a series, and I'm not so sure that will happen, even if we have all three parts written in advance. But as I said, I don't know anything about publishing. Heck, I don't even read books. I buy them, but I hardly ever read them anymore.

     

    How many pages will your book have  in entirety.   Some of Robin Hobbs books are 900 pages in mass market paperback format, and that is just one book out of a trilogy

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  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675

    Lol

    this made me laugh/  wicked step sister?

  • AlmightyQUESTAlmightyQUEST Posts: 2,006
    What I have generally found in trilogies, and it seems to work well, is that the first book at least should have a clear beginning and end, even if the "end" is designed to lead you into the second part. If the first book is satisfying, I'm more inclined to continue, and feel confident reading the third book even if the second is clearly a "transition" without an end. Just splitting a book, like the two part paper back for Imajica, is confusing, and may not leave you confident that further books in the series are going to have a good ending, especially if it's a new author to the reader.

    So, if say if it can't be changed into three books with the first one having more of an end, I'd rather read a big book. Fantasy in particular is full of big books, so at least fans of the genre shouldn't be too shocked :)
  • WinterMoonWinterMoon Posts: 2,016
    edited August 2019
    Chohole said:

    How many pages will your book have  in entirety.   Some of Robin Hobbs books are 900 pages in mass market paperback format, and that is just one book out of a trilogy

    It's a bit early to say yet. The first three chapters are 25k words. 

    Oh and yes, it's fantasy.

     

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  • LeatherGryphonLeatherGryphon Posts: 12,416
    edited August 2019
    Chohole said:
    TigerAnne said:
    Chohole said:

    I like books in series.   Think of people who for various reasons find it difficult to handle a huge chunk of book and yet prefer real books rather than reading things on what is basically a computer screen as in ebooks. It is not too difficult, surely, to add a coulpe of sentences, or even just a few words at the beginning and end to draw the books together.  End is easiest,  ad a cliff hanger comment, so they really want to buy the next book to see what is going to happen next.   An Auther like Robin Hobb is very good at doing that.   She manages to keep you focused on following her even when she ends a series.  There is always a possibility that she will pick up the story again. Tad Williams is another one.  His trilogy Memory Sorrw and Thorn is a trilogy in Hard back, but 4 books in paperback as the 3rd volume was just way to long (over 520,000 words) to be printed in one book in mass market paperback format. So it was split into 2 books. To Green Angel Tower book 1   and to Green Angel Tower book 2  (sub titles Siege and Storm)  they managed to do that seamlessly.

    Well, it's actually planned as a series, but it's the first book out of three she wants to split up into yet another three. We may end up with a triology of triologies here. If we do it that way, there's no way we can make the first book (Book 1, part 1 of 3) a standalone novel, though. The publisher will have to okay us for a series, and I'm not so sure that will happen, even if we have all three parts written in advance. But as I said, I don't know anything about publishing. Heck, I don't even read books. I buy them, but I hardly ever read them anymore.

     

    How many pages will your book have  in entirety.   Some of Robin Hobbs books are 900 pages in mass market paperback format, and that is just one book out of a trilogy

    What kind of book is it?  Fiction, biography, history, technical manual, cookbook, coffee table book?  Any visit to a bookstore, big or little, will tell you that authors are a dime a dozen.  And that's about what books end up being sold for.  There's a reason the table at the front of the store is piled high with cheap books.  And it's why publishers are picky.  One should never plan on their book selling well.  If one has poured their heart and soul into a book and believe in it, then get it published by all means.  But don't think that even getting a proper publisher to accept it is going to make it sell.  Publish it yourself if you have to after exhausting proper publishers.  It might actually find a few buyers, but you're not going to get rich or even out of debt on one book.  Reality sucks.frown  And if you're lucky enough to even get a publisher to reject it but make suggestions, listen to them.  Unless one is the next J. K. Rowling, being obstinate isn't going to fly.

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  • chaynawolfsmoonchaynawolfsmoon Posts: 675
    edited August 2019
    McGyver said:

    is it bad that today is day 3 or 4 of me rendering the same basic set up... but but... my model looks so cute and she doesn't mind the goofy poses...

    (i'm a little worried what she'll tell the other models...)

    Yes, it is bad... very bad... shameful even. 

    You can’t see it, but I’m wagging my finger at you in a very disapproving manner... my brows are furrowed even.

    Actually, I’ve been rendering materials for three days, so I’m not even making art... just trying to figure out how to make decent materials.

    Well as you can clearly see she found me a delight to work with. Though we did get quite silly.

    Hmmm... Great I can send you my blender apartment and you can finish it for me. I keep adding crap to it but I'm not sure if that is the smart thing to do.

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  • ChoholeChohole Posts: 33,604
    Chohole said:
    TigerAnne said:
    Chohole said:

    I like books in series.   Think of people who for various reasons find it difficult to handle a huge chunk of book and yet prefer real books rather than reading things on what is basically a computer screen as in ebooks. It is not too difficult, surely, to add a coulpe of sentences, or even just a few words at the beginning and end to draw the books together.  End is easiest,  ad a cliff hanger comment, so they really want to buy the next book to see what is going to happen next.   An Auther like Robin Hobb is very good at doing that.   She manages to keep you focused on following her even when she ends a series.  There is always a possibility that she will pick up the story again. Tad Williams is another one.  His trilogy Memory Sorrw and Thorn is a trilogy in Hard back, but 4 books in paperback as the 3rd volume was just way to long (over 520,000 words) to be printed in one book in mass market paperback format. So it was split into 2 books. To Green Angel Tower book 1   and to Green Angel Tower book 2  (sub titles Siege and Storm)  they managed to do that seamlessly.

    Well, it's actually planned as a series, but it's the first book out of three she wants to split up into yet another three. We may end up with a triology of triologies here. If we do it that way, there's no way we can make the first book (Book 1, part 1 of 3) a standalone novel, though. The publisher will have to okay us for a series, and I'm not so sure that will happen, even if we have all three parts written in advance. But as I said, I don't know anything about publishing. Heck, I don't even read books. I buy them, but I hardly ever read them anymore.

     

    How many pages will your book have  in entirety.   Some of Robin Hobbs books are 900 pages in mass market paperback format, and that is just one book out of a trilogy

    What kind of book is it?  Fiction, biography, history, technical manual, cookbook, coffee table book?  Any visit to a bookstore, big or little, will tell you that authors are a dime a dozen.  And that's about what books end up being sold for.  There's a reason the table at the front of the store is piled high with cheap books.  One should never plan on their book selling well.  If one has poured their heart and soul into a book and believe in it, then get it published by all means.  But don't think that even getting a proper publisher to accept it is going to make it sell.  Publish it yourself if you have to after exhausting proper publishers.  It might actually find a few buyers, but you're not going to get rich or even out of debt on one book.  Reality sucks.frown  And if you're lucky enough to even get a publisher to reject it but make suggestions, listen to them.

    I guess the bulk of my library is Fiction,  and a large proportion of the fiction is Fantasy.   Robin Hobb is a Fantasy Author,    Without doing an actual count I would extimate somewhere in the region of 1000 books reside in the Chohole collection at present.   I do need to do a cull some 3-400 were himself's and ones I am not likely to read.

  • TigerAnne said:
    Chohole said:

    How many pages will your book have  in entirety.   Some of Robin Hobbs books are 900 pages in mass market paperback format, and that is just one book out of a trilogy

    It's a bit early to say yet. The first three chapters are 25k words. 

    Oh and yes, it's fantasy.

     

    I've been lost in rewrites of my naughty romances short stories for weeks it seems. I need to get back to my sci-fi and fantasy stories. Or my romance novella (about 30k now but I've not written for it in a couple months).

  • WinterMoonWinterMoon Posts: 2,016

     If one has poured their heart and soul into a book and believe in it, then get it published by all means.  But don't think that even getting a proper publisher to accept it is going to make it sell.  Publish it yourself if you have to after exhausting proper publishers.  It might actually find a few buyers, but you're not going to get rich or even out of debt on one book.  Reality sucks.

    Look, I've got a very short fuse today, for reasons that have very little to do with you, so I'm just gonna say this: I already said that it's not the end of the world for me if the book doesn't sell. I went into this never expecting it to. But this project means a lot to my friend, even if it's not going to be a huge success. Telling her that some person I don't really even know on the internet thinks we should scrap it and start over, no I'm not going to do that. You sound almost angry that I won't do as you said. I get a very strong vibe from your post that you're trying to make me feel stupid, and I don't appreciate that.

  • LeatherGryphonLeatherGryphon Posts: 12,416
    edited August 2019

    @TigerAnne:  Wow, that blew up fast.surprise  I deliberately used the impersonal pronoun "one" instead of "you" to just spread my observations on situations like this to all assembled readers, and not point fingers or imply blame on you specifically.  You're not the only person reading this thread.  OK, you've got a short fuse.  Many of us do.   Don't let it be the control.  Cool your jets, please.indecision

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  • XyetztXyetzt Posts: 27,542

    I impulsively bought a new phone.  It is for my free phone line.  I am now having buyers regret and I do not know how to check on order status not to mention how to cancel the order.

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  • McGyverMcGyver Posts: 7,101
    McGyver said:

    is it bad that today is day 3 or 4 of me rendering the same basic set up... but but... my model looks so cute and she doesn't mind the goofy poses...

    (i'm a little worried what she'll tell the other models...)

    Yes, it is bad... very bad... shameful even. 

    You can’t see it, but I’m wagging my finger at you in a very disapproving manner... my brows are furrowed even.

    Actually, I’ve been rendering materials for three days, so I’m not even making art... just trying to figure out how to make decent materials.

    Well as you can clearly see she found me a delight to work with. Though we did get quite silly.

    Hmmm... Great I can send you my blender apartment and you can finish it for me. I keep adding crap to it but I'm not sure if that is the smart thing to do.

    That sounded like a challenge... I guessed at dimensions, but door height and width is standard... window have low sills... I wasn’t sure if the ceiling is horizontal or pitched (your images show it tilted)... the floor seems like it’s a sunken living room setup... Megh, it’s a guess.

     

  • McGyverMcGyver Posts: 7,101
    edited August 2019

    Does it look like the normal maps for the textures on the sphere are doing what they are supposed to be doing?... I can’t tell.

    I’ve gone texture blind... it all looks the same to me at this point.

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  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675

    Sigh sitting out in the psrking lot waiting bus. 

    Parked my putt putt walker in emoty car slot. I frel like desth race 2,000. 

  • LeatherGryphonLeatherGryphon Posts: 12,416
    edited August 2019

    A few nights ago when I went to Chautauqua, I went two hours early to make sure I could get a parking place in the large handicap section at the front of the lot.  Otherwise I'd end up having to park way out in what's called the "Back Forty" lot which is about a half mile walk from there to the Amphitheater if you don't manage to time it to be there when the parking lot shuttle comes by to take you to the main gate.frown  Regardless, I got my handicap spot but it was the only one left except for one spot that someone had parked a rental single-person MTV (motorized transport vehicle, i.e. mini-golfcart) instead of moving it onto the parking area provided for them.  So some poor gimpy person driving to the concert is going to have to trek down from the "Back Forty" because one geezer couldn't read signs. 

    Being old permits us to wave our canes around and mutter under our breath about the young'uns but doesn't relieve us from reading signs.cheeky

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  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675

    A few nights ago when I went to Chautauqua, I went two hours early to make sure I could get a parking place in the large handicap section at the front of the lot.  Otherwise I'd end up having to park way out in what's called the "Back Forty" lot which is about a half mile walk from there to the Amphitheater if you don't manage to time it to be there when the parking lot shuttle comes by to take you to the main gate.frown  Regardless, I got my handicap spot but it was the only one left except for one spot that someone had parked a rental single-person MTV (motorized transport vehicle, i.e. mini-golfcart) instead of moving it onto the parking area provided for them.  So some poor gimpy person driving to the concert is going to have to trek down from the "Back Forty" because one geezer couldn't read signs. 

    Being old permits us to wave our canes around and mutter under our breath about the young'uns but doesn't relieve us from reading signs.cheeky

    smileyremembered your parking pass this time!

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