"Get Them While You Can!" If Not… Well… "There's Always Another Sale™"
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Too bad they didn't change the newly mad items. It's a good sale. But a few more options to trigger the deal would be nice. Coupon not working for me either.
It certainly does
Richard Hasseltine said on a thread over in Platinum Club that it had been reported.
I would agree; there werern't any new mad releases I wanted, there still aren't. If it had included all MM items, I'd have spent some cash... My Credit Card (and store credit) thanks you.
Has anybody noticed that if you add a whole bunch of the Easter freebies to your cart including the nose hair, the total is one penny instead of totally free?
It was free for me - but I already had half the freebies before, in case that makes a difference.
I think DAZ got themselves into a corner where the MM New items triggered a deal good enought that everyone bought all the new MM items... and while the good deal still exists, there are no new items left to purchase to trigger it, and so people aren't buying.
But I dig that now I've got male Face Hole hair to go with the Bearded Lady... We're running out of inappropriately funny body hair to give on April Fools... at least of any sort that would sell on daz3d.com. :)
I didn't have a lot of the Easter stuff either. I dunno if Sexy Sci Fi bunny really is in the spirit of Easter... but... *shrug*... that was one of the only ones I did have previously.
I'm glad I took a minute to cool down before I responded to this.
I'm not going to go into a deep dive on the principles of a free market economy and who gets to decide what is and isn't acceptable in fair trade...
But... If I were buying from a Japanese content author on a Japanese site and paying in Yen I wouldn't be surprised or disappointed when the instructions were not in a language I could read.
But when I buy from a US site located in Utah and pay in US currency - there is an *expectation* on my part, regardless of the policy of the company doing the retail sale, that instructions be provided in legible English. If instructions are not available or not in English, I expect that this will be made clear to me *prior* to the sale. I think most US consumers feel this way.
It is an interesting experiment to watch DAZ push the boundaries of the consumer/retailer relationship in online transactions of products that are made internationally - and in other ways. I think in some ways this benefits the consumers of DAZ products - but in other ways, eventually DAZ is inevitably going to run afoul of some obscure US law in a way that will make them tighten their policies and practices.
There... calm and rational response to the above post. TL:DR - I believe that when a US company sells a foreign made product and doesn't disclose that the instructions are not in English, that IS down to a QA issue - regardless of the company's unwritten policy on instructions from non-English speaking PAs.
I mean, if you bought a product from Ikea and got it home and instead of fairly clear PICTURES of how to put your RUFFTRAG together, there were written instructions that were only in Swedish... would you be satisfied with Ikea telling you, "Instructions are not a requirement, their provision varies by the disposition (and the ability to cope with English) of the maker?"
Step A: "Duroken der Borken en ta orken, den twernden der werden der benden twendens da der RUFFTRAG perfurkanturkenzerkentweresten!"
If you know... the Ikea wasn't in SWEDEN but was instead in Pittsburg and everything else about it was written in English?
I agree here with Novica. I think while it is something that DAZ consumers with some experience under their belt look for - the "Software requirements," field is something a lot of greener DAZ buyers probably frequently get tripped up on - and I also have gotten snared a couple of times... usually with Poser content that doesn't work at all in DAZ because of incompatible morph dials.
I do web based retail for a day job... and I understand the trouble with, "We put the information in the description but the consumer just looked at the pictures and clicked the buy button without reading the details."
It creates customer service headaches for me, too - and I'm always looking for ways to PREVENT the customer from buying something that isn't what they think it is, or to make sure they understand that their single order might ship in two boxes that might not arrive at the same time, or whatever the hassle is. Because keeping the customer happy is more important than getting a sale that makes the consumer feel misled or tricked. I'd rather have them know up front then spend the time with them after the sale trying to fix it.
I'm waiting for the coupons to work to buy my cart for April.
Novica, I just followed up on paying attention to my DL speeds...
I've got a 100mb connection, I routinely get 165mb down from speed test sites...
But today my DL was at 1.8mb/sec high, and was hovering more around 600-900kb/s.
Just to clarify: 165 is megaBIT, 1.8 is megaBYTE. So it's not 165 vs 1.8, but either 165 vs 14.4 or 20.6 vs 1.8
When you have a fast enough connection, then that will no longer be a bottleneck.
I've got a 300mb line that always sits around 330mb. But today my speed through DIM is laughable. It just got up to a high of 1.1mb. Everything else is running fine, just my connection to the Daz download servers.
I do feel that comparing an IKEA unassembled piece to a DAZ model is unfair. Most of the action figures and playsets my kids get don’t come with instructions either. I feel lucky if there’s an obvious way to turn the sound effects off. And if major toy companies can get away with that I doubt there’s any risk to Daz.
The coupons work now.
Totally, totally agree the product descriptions should have standards and be up to par in English. They need to have someone designated for it in the QA department that does that (in addition to whatever else they test.) It needs to be one person IMO for consistency.
I bought a computer cp,ponent some years ago; before internet. I followed the instructions and couldn't get it working, not could I when not following the instructions.
I returned it to the shop for a refund; the shop's supplier refused stating that the item worked. All I needed to do was "s, t, u, v, w, y, y and z". None of these were documented.
I demanded a refund stating that instructions needed to get it working were part of the product; the shop backed me up.
Companies (major or otherwise) get away with it, because folks let 'em.
This reminds me a bit about aspects of being a PA; parts of it don't seem valid or worthwhile, I mean the poducts made, it's packed and it's going through QA, so 'my job' is done. However, instructions, just like the renders to sell the product are vital.
1 Renders make the customer (prospective), want to buy it.
2 A good user experience (including instructions) make them want to keep said item. Not only that, they are morely to buy in the future.
It was an analogy... analogies are imperfect. It was making a point in response to a specific point. It wasn't an attempt to be a 1:1 equation.
If I buy a simple mobile game that costs $.99 and is real intuitive, I don't expect instructions or a tutorial. If I pay $60 for a new console or PC game... I expect more than being thrown into it to try and figure out how to equip my weapon or site my target or ride that dragon or... whatever...
If you're selling content by a non-English speaking author... say, LAMH - and it is expensive, and there are no English instructions or tutorials... well... that isn't exactly a fair business practice. I'm picking on LAMH because the author is not a native English speaker and the documentation is actually pretty good.
Now... the RV may not be as complex as LAMH or Headshop Oneclick... and it is what I'm picking on right now but there is a LOT of content like this... if it has features that are shown in the promos, it should be documented in clear English if it is being sold on an English speaking website. That is just ONE of the QA issues I've encountered lately... and more and more this seems to affect the latest generation when it wasn't as big of a problem on Gen1, 2 and 3 products.
Let's use toys as an example... if I paid $300 for a Lego Millenium Falcon and I opened it up and it was a box of plastic bricks with no instructions... "You can build it with these pieces, but it is up to you to figure out how to..."
I do think that is something that would get a toy manufacturer in some sort of hot water. I'm going to be less upset if it isn't clear how to make the action lights and sounds work on the $20 Batmobile I bought my kid at Walgreens. Although... cheap toys aren't very cheap anymore... are they...
Interestingly I just got a e-mail promo from Dreamlight that reads:
Have you ever bought something and later found out that it
may not have been exactly what you thought it would be?
Thing is, most products and product pages are made to sell,
and they are pretty good at it too.
Sometimes, it could be great to take a peek inside all the cool
stuff out there, before you make a decision to get it...
...or maybe if that something it's not for you before you spend
any money and time on it.
Say hello to our new honest review site, that takes a deep,
yet a quick look at your favorite 2D & 3D content...
...and speaks the truth only...
...without the fluff:
:)
I'm not defending the lack of documentation. I think the whole "what are technical writers for" deal so many companies have fallen into is a tragedy.
But it's a bit ironic that that RV costs $19.77, isn't it?
Another pet peeve... I've got an i7 with 16gb of memory and an 8 GB GTX 1070.
Stonemason's sets still can bring my system to a crawl and even make DAZ crash. Props or sets that are huge... some PAs are really good about noting that there are tons of polygons and it might not work well on a system... but other PAs aren't very clear that you need something more than an Centrino Duo with a GTX 640 1GB video card in order to actually be able to use their content.
I'm not sure if anything bites worse than finally buying that $40 piece of content only to realize you need a couple thousand dollar upgrade to your hardware in order to use it.
LOL… I can't begin to count the times I've bought something (hardware) to upgrade a computer only to find I have to spend more money for other things or it won't work. And usually the extra spend was not cheap. (It's one of the reasons I stopped building my own computers!)
I remember years ago I bought a PC Space game and in order to play it you had to enter your name and answear two code prompts but the documentation didn't tell you how to answer so I coldn't play the game found out later that the code prompts referenced a section,page,paragraph,sentence,and word in the manual and you had to enter that word and this info was no where in the manual
This I can totally relate to! My system is just under yours in hardware and I get tired of having to return or not use addons that don't take into account users systems or the additional resources that we add to them to make a complete scene. DAZ should require all PAs to develop on mid range systems.
I would be happy if Daz itself had full instructions on how to use every aspect of the program. It's crazy that we have to hunt through forum pages, some people's DeviantArt pages, YouTube, etc... just to figure out how to use DS.
I managed to pick up Esha's tutorials on texturing and shading, which have been really great. If you get a chance to get them on sale I highly recommend! She's a very patient and deliberate teacher and covers a LOT from start to finish including why or why not you might want to approach things in different ways. I got a lot of real world examples which I can follow easily. I've taken to waiting til everyone has gone to bed and making it my guilty pleasure to watch some tutorials and poke around with what I'm learning.
Maybe the last link below, the foundations one, would be useful?
https://www.daz3d.com/the-complete-guide-to-texturing-clothing-bundle
https://www.daz3d.com/the-complete-guide-to-creating-iray-shaders
https://www.daz3d.com/daz-studio-foundations-and-essentials-course
Yep, there is one item that I want out of the last three days' Newly Mad Items. But, there are about 50 I'd like from the Still Mad Category. It would have been great if at least 20-30 more options were available. They've done this on several Catchup sales...hanging the new items for 3 or 4 days. If I were a PA, I'd really want my new release to show up on those weekends...especially making my item the qualifier for the big incentive deal. But, as a buyer, it forces you to buy from a much smaller pool of items. I miss the days when the triggers were Any New Release...meaning, within the entire sale window...or even the entire New status window.
Heck, or just to add a clear disclaimer that system requirements are steep in order to use the plugin or content or utility. I think I've seen SOME PAs do this... but I started out on an i5 with a 2GB GTX 750ti... and a lot of the things I bought just wouldn't work on it. As it is... I'm already eyeing that 12GB 1080ti. :)
Running a Threadripper with four GTX 1070tis 8GB each and 128 Gb ram