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The world is a much smaller place now ;).
Laurie
...indeed, back then it took a couple weeks to cross the Atlantic whereas now you can do it in 6 hours (3.5 hours when the Concorde was still in service) pretty much secure in the knowledge you will make it to your destination safe and sound with little incident save for maybe a bit of turbulence.
Yeah, a global economy has its good and bad aspects and we are seeing one of the latter.
Competing with gamers for graphics cards is one niche thing, but putting up every voter’s utility bill is really going to draw attention:
http://www.watertowndailytimes.com/national/plattsburgh-mulls-bitcoin-moratorium-20180305
Double post, using up everyone’s electrickery.
At this moment, Newegg is selling the Gigabyte 1080Ti 11GB for the same or ~$100 more than some of the 1070ti's, and they list it as in stock. It is about $350-$600+ cheaper than I see it anywhere else. The EVGA 1070ti is the same price as that MSI 1080ti on that site.
Doubt it will last long.
Interesting read. I have a good friend that works within the Bitcoin industry here in the USA, hope they aren't under fire too! lol
In any case I see my old card about the same price as it was back when I bought it so hopefully prices are dropping again in some areas. Seems sort of nuts with these price hike trends. Used to be "get 'em while their hot" now it's "get 'em while their cheap" LOL
...yup, didn't last long at all. Save for one at 960$, everything else that isn't "out of stock" is over 1,000$
It's a promising sign. A week or two ago I didn't see any 1080ti's for under a thousand dollars. Hopefully prices really are starting to soften up.
...1070s are still too ridiculously high at around 100% or more above their normal price. the cheapest I could find were refurbished ones but still more than the original MSRP and without knowing what the previous owner did with them, not even going to bother.
Hopefully Nvidia will restock their supply sometime.
The people who make video cards are like the petrolum companies they only lower the price if no one is paying those high prices. Human greed being what it is, I don't foresee the prices going down too much unless bitcoin fails and there is a glut of video cards. As far as cpu and memory. I would stay away from high end new generation computers unless you have deep pockets. A nice xeon 8 or 10 core from ebay and a prebuilt dell workstation with at least 32gb of ram is what people should be trying to get, not some treadripper monster that you have to sell your organs for.
Greetings,
nVidia is not raising the price of the video cards, and as far as I can tell neither is Asus, eVGA, etc... The reason the price is high is because they are 100% selling out every single shipment they make at the normal price, and the only prices you can find are essentially the secondary market, which are people who either (1) had one, and can't resist getting a high value for it at the current rates, or (2) who bought one of those sold-out cards specifically in order to resell it to either desperate gamers/renderers, or greedy cryptocurrency miners.
Believe it or not, individuals can be far more viciously greedy than companies.
-- Morgan
Ha, this is what Daz needs so we are not locked into Nvida cards only >>>https://pro.radeon.com/en/software/prorender/
Yes I get your point Cyberfox but it is still fueled by human greed so I don't see an end in sight. I wish Daz would upgrade the OpenGL render engine in Daz studio and Make the content easier to customize and add to in smart content.
...I just saw reference to an article from January where Nvidia asked vendors to sell to gaming enthusiasts instead of miners.
https://wccftech.com/nvidia-instructs-retailers-stop-selling-miners-sell-gamers/
Not that many will listen though.
As soon as EEVEE will come out of beta there will be no need of high-end cards for realistic renderings. A simple GT730 4GB will be more than enough. So miners can take them all and go to hell with them as far as I'm concerned .. I'm waiting for that.
Meanwhile iClone 7 can provide good results already with its real-time PBR. A possible equivalent solution for DAZ Studio would be to implement Iray real-time. Both iClone and Blender have plugins to import DAZ assets.
Yes, for once it's not the corporations being greedy here. Nvidia is still selling cards on their website at regular MSRP, but those cards immediately get snapped up as soon as they're available. Like I posted on the previous page, if you're willing to buy an Alienware system, you can upgrade to a 1080ti for around $500. So most of the cardmakers (and chipmakers) are honest. The retailers may be jacking up the prices, but that's just how retail operates.
I'll second that.
Prorender doesn't work on macs, so being DAZ Studio a mac compatible application it doesn't fit. Moreover mining affects ATI cards as well so I can't see how this would be a solution at all ..
Another notification this morning from NVIDIA that the 1080ti was back in stock at $699, limit two per customer. Of course, by the time I pushed the "buy" button, they were out again.....
...same here for a 1070 Ti Email arrived at around quarter past 07:00 by the time I saw it and clicked the buy now button it was back to "Notify Me". They have our email addresses if they are so into wanting to make sure gamers get first crack they need to set up a reservation system whereby the card is held for you with a deadline (like midnight Pacific time as Nvidia is located here in the Portland metro area) to respond. Most likely it was no doubt some miner(s) who snapped them up. Who knows they probably even have bots watching sites like this that auto order once the notice arrives.
..oh, Blender. Oh well.
Put in for another "useless" notification on a 1070.
Like some others here, I'm a Senior Citizen and living on a fixed income. I moved from Maine to Minnesota to be near my family when the rest of them finally resettled here. My Dad is 90. Back in 2014, Dad was generous and bought me a 27" iMac. I told him it would meet all my needs. It didn't take long to realize I'd need a powerful PC to handle DAZ Studio and Iray.
If it weren't for DAZ Studio, I'd never consider buying a PC. I left the Windows world back in 2007, and have been ecstatic ever since. But I want to "Make Art" with DAZ Studio. So I can justify having a powerful PC just for Art's sake. I'm sure iRay is a great rendering tool for DAZ Studio. But Iray and the need for powerful, expensive video cards will eventually drive away the "poorer people" like myself.
Yeah shows how utterly useless the notification system is, and well with the trouble that you and others are having try to get one, it really makes one wonder.. It has really come to the point that maybe the government should wade in and put the kybosh on this cryptomining craze..
Oh no...that can only make it worse LOL.
When manufacturers finally get the hint that the need for more gfx cards will go on for awhile, they'll get around to creating more supply. It's just that doing that can't happen overnight and takes time and money to get the ball rolling.
Laurie
Yeah I know it won't help but it is still a pain in the rear for those looking for a new card at a halfway decent price..
...the trouble is there is a worldwide shortage of memory chips (hence why system memory has been going up in price as well) The suppliers who fabricate memory for those memory sticks on the MB also make the memory GPU cards use. Nvidia or AMD simply cannot ramp up production if there is a shortage of a key component. Same for Corsair, Patriot, GSkill, Adata, etc.
I just came off of an article and discussion the Tom's forums about this and pretty much the people who have been scarfing up GPU cards since last year are not the big players at all. Most of the long time miners are using full on mining farms similar to those warehouse sized Pixar render farms that have hundreds of dedicated enterprise and even datacentre based mining servers. They have outgrown the need for commercial GPUs. What we are seeing now are the "Johnny Come Lately" miners who like the latecomers on the coattails of California gold, rush thought they still might be able to strike it rich enough in spite of the fact they were competing against well organised an even established mining outfits. Unfortunately as more headed west, the rush hit a saturation point as the veins rapidly became depleted and trespassing on someone else's claim was pretty much a death warrant.
With crypto currency mining, the more who became involved, the more difficult it became to get any sort of return, particularly for the late comers. However it seems whenever the idea of what essentially is "free money" (particularly that is not taxed) is dangled like a carrot on a stick and string in front of people, they seem to abandon reason and do whatever it takes to get their hands on some whether it is by doing something totally stupid (like some game/"reality" shows I've seen), or putting more in than what the final payout is worth (chronic gamblers).
I some ways, I feel as if I am watching It's a Mad Mad Mad Mad World playing out in real life.
My bad. I was just checking the available plugins and found nothing for Mac. Now I see there's a mac for Cinema and a couple of mac betas for Maya and Blender. Good luck with the project then, it's always a good thing to have more options .. Even if as I said I can't see how this would help with the mining issue at all ..
Take another step or two back and look agian. From my perspective, I feel as if I'm watching scenes from Idiocracy in real time.
And no, we don't need more government tentacles in our daily lives.
Pessimistically yours,
Omen
Ok, that's brilliant.
https://www.curbed.com/2017/11/9/16619032/bitcoin-mining-heat-homes-siberia-russia
That "house" is not much bigger than my cubicle at my office