Daz 3D is part of 
Connect
DAZ Productions, Inc.
7533 S Center View Ct #4664
West Jordan, UT 84084
Licensing Agreement | Terms of Service | Privacy Policy | EULA
© 2025 Daz Productions Inc. All Rights Reserved.
Comments
...that still doesn't help us with Daz and Iray in the meantime. It's either pay a ridiculous overinflated amount for a GPU card that can handle rendering of large scenes in Iray, or wait hours, even for a test render to complete in CPU mode. The bottom line is this mining thing needs to just go away as that is what really pushed GPU prices out of the reach of many here over the last 10 months, However, as long as people believe they can get money for little effort I don't see this ending any time soon unless the bottom totally falls out of the crypto market. long enough that they become discouraged and look for some other "get rich quick" scheme (that hopefully doesn't involve computer hardware).
I understand that Daz could not foresee the memory shortage or mining craze happening nearly three years ago when they first adopted Iray. Unfortunately, the alternative, 3DL, seems to have been pushed to the back seat in the process.
...OK was cruising around on ebay looking for deals when I came across a lot of 24 Tesla K80s for 31,000$. Granted, they are dual cards (12 + 12) GB however the cores would still stack yielding a total of 69,504 cores when networked together. If one could find Dual Socket MBs each with 4 PCIe 3.0 x 16 slots you'd only need 6 modules in the rack. Get 2 older generation Xeons, 32 GB of DDR3, and a W7 Pro licence per module and you'd have a heck of a home render farm (and a nice heater for your flat in winter).
Go big or go home.
If you're spending that, then you're either not living in a flat, or it's the mother of all flats. :)
...some people like having a simple living space, and when you own a home you have to deal with all sorts of other bothersome distractions like maintenance, a yard, neighbourhood organisations, water and rubbish service, and property taxes (though the landlord may frown on your need to have a new power trunk installed that can handle the current load).
...well looks like I'm pretty much out of the market for a better GPU as I learned that if you don't use PayPal, you can pretty much forget buying anything on ebay. I don't use PayPal for a few reasons. You have to list your card number with them when signing up, I've known people who had major issues with the service and their accounts, along with the fact my bank (which I like for all the other services I get) charges a fee (which is more than a couple zlotys) for transferring money to other online accounts like PayPal.
Ebay does have have "loadable" gift cards available but they have a maximum of 500$ (so forget that Maxwell Titan-X I saw at the 585$ Buy it Now price) and also requires having an active PayPal account.
As I also read on one site, Nvidia has ceased producing Founders Edition 10xx cards (and possibly the Titan Xp as well), most likely as they are shifting to producing the new 11xx series, so checking the Nvidia store to get a 1070 or 1080 at the base price is pretty much moot.
I hate to be a party pooper, but according to wikipedia, the 1080ti came almost a full year after the 1080. Hopefully they will speed up the release cycle, but at the rate people are buying cards, they'll probably want to stretch it out as long as possible.
Used Titan-X 12 GB GPUs can be won at auctions on ebay for a bit over $400. Be careful if you bid on more than one at a time. : )
...
...just saw this last night:
https://www.etsy.com/listing/595797685/world-first-titan-v-8gpu-rig-the-most?gpla=1&gao=1&utm_campaign=shopping_us_Artesian3DPrints_sfc_osa&utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=google&utm_custom1=0&utm_content=11426206&gclid=CjwKCAjw2dvWBRBvEiwADllhnwbrQ2XzSkc932MwjLoGAtAVdOt7Hlv4e1brZ_Yb_08ytm8x8cwk4RoC_RAQAvD_BwE
Wow! Actually considering that just the cards cost almost $24,000, $33,500 is not that bad a price for a complete unit. And it will heat your house..... But only 8 Titan V's? Asus has a motherboard that will interface with 16 GPUs....
...If I had 33,000$ I'd better off building a workstation around two 32 GB Quadro GV100s with NVLink, dual Sandy Bridge Xeons and 128 GB of memory for support. I'd not only would have some change left in the pocket, but with 20,240 cores I'd just have to hover the cursor over the render button and it would be done.
...and it would run on W7 Pro.
Two power supplies? I'd need at least four, so I could plug each one in to a different circuit in my house, so my wiring doesn't burst into flames. But it would be sweet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Oq0uKDZmsY
and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2xKvEZMKgo
And I believe that one 20-amp circuit could handle it just fine. Those new Quadros will probably be pretty power-efficient.
...only if it's Xin Xin.
Quadros are actually much more energy efficient than the GTX series, the 32 GB GV 100 is rated at the same power level as an 11 GB GTX1080 Ti, and a correction, "only" 5,120 cores not 10,240 as one site mentioned.
The 16 GB P5000 consumes only 20w more than my old 1GB GTX460 at peak output.
This could potentially mess things up... the AIB makers are reducing production in anticipation of/reaction to reduced demand... which possibly could slow down the reduction in prices. I read somewhere that cryptocurrency was starting to rebound again... and it'll be a bit before the tailored crypto cards from China hit the market.
Hopefully prices continue to fall, but I could see the supply tightening again if things don't go right...
https://wccftech.com/nvidia-and-amd-graphics-card-aibs-are-expecting-a-plunge-of-up-to-40-in-demand-in-april/
Prices are definitely coming back down. The EVGA GTX 1080 Ti FTW that was over $1,200 on Amazon a month ago is now down to $919: https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B06Y15DWXR/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
Yeah, I have seen some 1060's and 1070's for the same price as NVIDIA's reference card price (if they had any to sell) lately.
Some people on Ebay are trying to sell non-working cards for the same price as working cards are going for.
I didn't think this warranted a new thread so I'll leave this here:
https://wccftech.com/nvidia-gpp-is-no-more/
Short form, Nvidia's Preferred Parnter program (whatever is called) has been cancelled, no doubt in part due to the antitrust allegations that were raised.
As has been pointed out before, Nvidia already controls the vast majority of the market, so getting even more greedy wasn't a good thing. I'm all about a 'level playing field', and products living and dying on their own merits, without the dominant entity taking advantage of the situation to make their competitor's lives even more difficult.
Intel is still huge by comparison to both Nvidia and AMD, but they aren't really in the discrete GPU market currently. Their integrated offerings work, but isn't competitive by any stretch of the imagination to the latest discrete GPUS. OK, maybe the low end ones...
IMHO, this was a welcome news day for GPU buyers.
Get 'em while they're hot! And being sold at MSRP!!!
Looks like the 1080 Ti's are out of stock already, Titan XP and the 1080s and below are in stock as I type this...
..ahh picked up a Titan-X the other week for around the price of the 1070. Nivida tried my patience a little too long and lost me when all the 10xx cards were listed as being "out of stock" for nearly two months.
So could this mean there may have been a further delay in the release for the 11xx series?
...or, is this a move to keep people from jumping ship to AMD by releasing enough 10xx series cards to keep them in stock?
The Titan X is a good card, with 12GB memory, so IMHO nothing to regret with that purchase.
...not regretting it one bit. My system's PSU is up to the task and my case has extremely good airflow. Just mentioning that Nvidia lost a direct sale with me because they made it appear there would be no more 10xx cards because of the forthcoming 11x series so I gave up on them and ended up with this really sweet deal.
Of course the extra 4 GB is most welcome as I do big scenes.
It will be interesting to see how this turns out: https://www.coindesk.com/bitmain-confirms-release-first-ever-ethereum-asic-miners/
There is still the option to make a fork of Ethereum to make the ASIC useless.
...what I don't understand is why would they want to block it, particularly as ASICs have become the norm for Bitcoin mining?
Have you played with your Titan yet?
...not yet as I have some things I need to finish setting up get the entire workstation array fully up and running. Need to still rebuild my programme toolbox and then clone my Runtimes/libraries to the second computer so I can work on a scene on one while rendering on the other. I also am setting up networking so I can use both systems for Carrara rendering. Both the cloning and render network is waiting on a hardwired a gigabit router (don't want wireless because of the potential for lag)
First test of the Titan will be that monster 8.9 GB railway station scene of mine.
Greetings,
Because when ASICs become the only way you can profitably mine, then the mining can become concentrated in the hands of large companies who can afford to buy significant quantites of ASICs. Concentration of the 'proof of work' side of cryptocurrencies is one of its failure modes; if one company controls 50% of the transaction signing, then that company can do egregious things.
tl;dr - It lessens trust in a cryptocurrency if the mining power is concentrated, and ASIC mining concentrates power.
-- Morgan
p.s. Bitcoin only somewhat escaped this because a number of different organizations became the big players (due to Bitcoin's slower growth than the newer cryptocurrencies, which rode on its coattails), and none of them are large enough to have a dominating effect.
...so a new GPU series may still end up in short supply after introduction due to third party resellers snapping them up to sell in bulk to miners. This makes it sound like we will never see the end of this pricing issue unless these newer cryptocurrencies totally collapse.
There should not be noticeable lag on wifi as long your network and equipment are up to par. AC band has very low latency, so low that I can even play video games on them without perceptible lag. If it can handle gaming then it should handle Daz very well. I have streamed my desktop (and Daz) over Splashtop many times. I have even streamed my desktop outside my home on other wifi. Of course that will create some lag, but it depends on the network as to how bad it is. In some places I have had decent experiences streaming my PC outside the home. I cannot game over them, but using Daz and GIMP didn't pose too much trouble. But at home on my network, it works very well. I have streamed to my laptop, my phone, and an Amazon Fire 10HD tablet. I had to buy an AC band USB dongle for my laptop because the laptop only had a G band, and a crappy one at that.
Though if you are talking about stationary desktops, you may as well wire them up. However streaming Daz over a tablet (using a mouse) can be very relaxing. There is one issue, using the viewport camera control can be funky.
...yeah, the two systems I plan to connect are both stationary. The notebooks I have are both XP which do not go on the Net.