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  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 107,883
    naxuam_66429eb97e said:

    So why when I click on Upgrade and then dowload it just takes me to the product Library with no Upgrade listed?

    The version in the Product Library (or DIM) is the new version - download and install.

  • AllenArtAllenArt Posts: 7,175

    Right here:

     

    Install Beta.JPG
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  • FrankTheTankFrankTheTank Posts: 1,481
    marble said:

    Ahh - that's a pity. I was hoping for an update to ActivePose so the pinned parts don't keep jumping out of place. I use it for animations but I always have to pull the limbs back to where they were supposed to be pinned which is a huge waste of time. I never use drag-posing (PowerPose) - can't seem to get the hang of it and the pose usually ends up in a weird contortion so I stick to the parameter sliders.

    Under the Tool Settings for ActivePose, if you set the Pin Position to "Pin at Both", it goes a long way to keeping your other limbs pinned where you want them. And if you heven't done so, you should also change the shortcut for "toggle pins" to be your space bar. These 2 tips will really make using ActivePose a breeze.

  • AndySAndyS Posts: 1,447
    Fixmypcmike said:

     I use Avira, which hasn't reported any problems with any DS updates.

    I too use Avira and it reports DAZ (some install scripts) regularly.

  • marblemarble Posts: 7,500
    DSDT said:
    marble said:

    Ahh - that's a pity. I was hoping for an update to ActivePose so the pinned parts don't keep jumping out of place. I use it for animations but I always have to pull the limbs back to where they were supposed to be pinned which is a huge waste of time. I never use drag-posing (PowerPose) - can't seem to get the hang of it and the pose usually ends up in a weird contortion so I stick to the parameter sliders.

    Under the Tool Settings for ActivePose, if you set the Pin Position to "Pin at Both", it goes a long way to keeping your other limbs pinned where you want them. And if you heven't done so, you should also change the shortcut for "toggle pins" to be your space bar. These 2 tips will really make using ActivePose a breeze.

    Yep - the spacebar is my toggle key but I normall set the Pin Position to "Ends". I'll try "Both" next time and hope it helps. Thank you.

  • marblemarble Posts: 7,500
    AndyS said:
    Fixmypcmike said:

     I use Avira, which hasn't reported any problems with any DS updates.

    I too use Avira and it reports DAZ (some install scripts) regularly.

    Not only DAZ installs - lots of other false positives too. That's why I switched to Bit Defender. I was tempted to uninstall and just let Windows Defender handle everything but it has this annoying Alert warning that complains that I'm not sending my info back to Microsoft - well, I know that - I deliberately switched that off.

  • ByBryByBry Posts: 10

    Anyone understand the touted "Power Pose" as a new feature.  I can find nothing about what the feature is supposed to do or how it should work.  I only found a series of Power Pose packages.

  • fixmypcmikefixmypcmike Posts: 19,682
    AndyS said:
    Fixmypcmike said:

     I use Avira, which hasn't reported any problems with any DS updates.

    I too use Avira and it reports DAZ (some install scripts) regularly.

    The standalone Bitrock installer or DIM?

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,838
    edited June 2017
    mahhen said:

    Ok, i am not sure that i understand correctly. Is dim going to be removed and you download directly from daz 4.9.4 (i stll have 4.8).  I like dim, it keeps store out of actual daz and it is kind of between them. I dont have endless wallet and i dont want to see products i dont have money to buy, i do not want adds in daz. I like buying directly from strore (and using dim) and not just daz's main store, also from rendorosity and others. I can also see sales in store and plan what to buy in limits of my wallet.

    Also there is that new "daz connect" feature. If i use work ofline. Does that remove all those new online features and make daz work like what i have used to. And can i use dim to download.

    ...that better not happen.  My worlkstation does not have a net connection. I too like the DIM as sometimes if something gets corrupted, I can reinstall it without going thoiugh a lot of hoops.

    Not into using Connect as that means anything I download and install through it becomes proprietary to Daz Studio only.  I also work in Carrara as well as Marvelous Designer and ocasionally, Poser.

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  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,838
    Nyghtfall said:
    Llynara said:

    So the question is: What's it going to break? 

    Well, the install finished without a hitch.  Humorously, the new version has prompted me to do some Spring cleaning and reorganize my library.  I just deleted everything and am about to re-download what I want access to.

    ...hopefully one can opt out of that.  My workstation does not have a Net connection so re-downloading a bunch of content would be a super mondo huge pain in the bum.

  • Daywalker DesignsDaywalker Designs Posts: 3,586
    ByBry said:

    Anyone understand the touted "Power Pose" as a new feature.  I can find nothing about what the feature is supposed to do or how it should work.  I only found a series of Power Pose packages.

    It's not a new feature; it's one that people have been asking for updates for since Genesis 3 came out, at least; maybe longer. It's a tool used for making poses, but I'm not really all that  with it.

  • adzanadzan Posts: 268
    Richard Haseltine said:
    adzan said:
    Fixmypcmike said:
    AndyS said:
    Chohole said:

    some AV programs simply see something new and say  "Ooh it's new, must be suspect" because it isn't already added to the heuristics that the program recognises.

    AndyS said:
    Nyghtfall said:

    ... and I've just discovered Windows Defender doesn't like 4.9.4.

    You're not alone. There are several further security programs indicating DAZ using some kind of trojan mechanisms.
    Perhaps in DAZ they're harmless. But in general - yes there are suspective sigatures used by the developers.

    I often pointed it out in the past but it was denied.

     

    You know what:
    Several big companies and portals like facebook, yahoo, sony, etc. thought the way you do. And ...
    They got hacked several times in the near past.

    When this happens I go to a site like virustotal to see which AV's are reporting it.  If it's only ones that use heuristics which depend on many people downloading an app, I take it with a grain of salt.  I use Avira, which hasn't reported any problems with any DS updates.

    Sigh. Norton Security 22.9.4.8 (The 2017 One) is paranoid, it deletes daz studio  .dll  files let right and centre because it feels like it, I keep having to report false positives to Semantic.

    Today during the DS 4.9.4 install it deleted the daz automatic uninstall exe from the temporary folder because it was Bad! and wasn't trusted by their reputation system.  Bad Daz  lol.   I've learnt to wait for Norton to grumble when installing DS or it would have messed up the installed and I wouldn't have been happy

    I'm not seeing this with a current version of Norton.

    I've had so many false positives with the DS .dlls I try and send symantec the reports as soon as I can so the definitions can be updated quickly as the back and forth with them can be tiresome sometimes

  • PDSmithPDSmith Posts: 713
    edited June 2017

    I'm noticing a flaw in Powerpose. All figures work out but the G3 series.   The arms don't bend in anyway they barely even twist, and the legs don't bend at the hips, I've erased all traces of the previous copies of the templates and I'm coming up blank with the same problems. (Toes are an issue with the G2 series, doesn't know left toes from right toes.)

    Any suggestions?

    -Paul

     

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  • BlueIreneBlueIrene Posts: 1,318

    I wasn't prompted to re-organize my library. I imagine the program took one look at the state of mine and knew when it was beaten :)

  • JOdelJOdel Posts: 6,306

    What I want to know is whether there is a version for manual download and install (yes, the "manual" version comes in an installer, too. But you can *download* it manually -- or at least you could with all the other versions.)

    Because my product library doesen't appear to have the program available At All. 

    There's a 1.53kb file called Scene Builder for DAZ Studio Public Build +Beta+

    There's a 1.15kb file called Public Beta Content 1 DS

    There are Starte Essentials packages for Genesis and Genesis 2. (None for Genesis 3) And the subsurface shader base. Plus inactive plugins for GoZ, Photoshop Bridge, and PostgreSQL. 

    And that's it. No program files either for Mac or Windows.

  • fixmypcmikefixmypcmike Posts: 19,682
    JOdel said:

    What I want to know is whether there is a version for manual download and install (yes, the "manual" version comes in an installer, too. But you can *download* it manually -- or at least you could with all the other versions.)

    Because my product library doesen't appear to have the program available At All. 

    There's a 1.53kb file called Scene Builder for DAZ Studio Public Build +Beta+

    There's a 1.15kb file called Public Beta Content 1 DS

    There are Starte Essentials packages for Genesis and Genesis 2. (None for Genesis 3) And the subsurface shader base. Plus inactive plugins for GoZ, Photoshop Bridge, and PostgreSQL. 

    And that's it. No program files either for Mac or Windows.

    The General Release manual downloads are here:  https://www.daz3d.com/downloader/customer/files#prod_13176

    The Public Beta can only be downloaded with DIM.

  • BobvanBobvan Posts: 2,653

    What new iray looks the same to me...

  • fixmypcmikefixmypcmike Posts: 19,682
    PDSmith said:

    I'm noticing a flaw in Powerpose. All figures work out but the G3 series.   The arms don't bend in anyway they barely even twist, and the legs don't bend at the hips, I've erased all traces of the previous copies of the templates and I'm coming up blank with the same problems. (Toes are an issue with the G2 series, doesn't know left toes from right toes.)

    Any suggestions?

    -Paul

     

    They are working on templates for G3.

  • SpottedKittySpottedKitty Posts: 7,232
    JOdel said:

    What I want to know is whether there is a version for manual download and install (yes, the "manual" version comes in an installer, too. But you can *download* it manually -- or at least you could with all the other versions.)

    Because my product library doesen't appear to have the program available At All.

    Are you sure you're looking at the Product Library entry for the release version, and not the beta? We can only download the beta using DIM, it can't be done in a manual download (and I'm not sure about using Connect, either.)

    I just downloaded the new installer from the Product Library a little while ago, and all the related downloads were also there, just like they've always been.

    Note that there is a difference, the beta version is 4.9.4.113 and the release version is 4.9.4.115 — the beta should be updated to match before too long.

  • Daywalker DesignsDaywalker Designs Posts: 3,586
    Bobvan said:

    What new iray looks the same to me...

    It will, until you start diging into the shaders.

  • BobvanBobvan Posts: 2,653
    daywalker03 said:
    Bobvan said:

    What new iray looks the same to me...

    It will, until you start diging into the shaders.

    Im rendering scenes where I had apllied shaders looks more or less the same to me..

  • AllenArtAllenArt Posts: 7,175

    I saw some new speculars in the Uber shader stack...

    Laurie

  • BobvanBobvan Posts: 2,653
    edited June 2017
    AllenArt said:

    I saw some new speculars in the Uber shader stack...

    Laurie

    Edit just paused my render hada look there are some new goodies

    Post edited by Bobvan on
  • KharmaKharma Posts: 3,214
    Bobvan said:
    AllenArt said:

    I saw some new speculars in the Uber shader stack...

    Laurie

    Edit just paused my render hada look there are some new goodies

    Where did you find these, I see nothing different?

  • Daywalker DesignsDaywalker Designs Posts: 3,586
    Kharma said:
    Bobvan said:
    AllenArt said:

    I saw some new speculars in the Uber shader stack...

    Laurie

    Edit just paused my render hada look there are some new goodies

    Where did you find these, I see nothing different?

    Surfaces tab. I haven't found all the new goodies yet, but I did try out the chromatic Subsurface Shading feature. Sorry, didn't save a render of it.

  • AllenArtAllenArt Posts: 7,175
    edited June 2017
    Kharma said:
    Bobvan said:
    AllenArt said:

    I saw some new speculars in the Uber shader stack...

    Laurie

    Edit just paused my render hada look there are some new goodies

    Where did you find these, I see nothing different?

    Load a primitive and then apply the Iray Uber Shader. Look down thru the sliders on the Surfaces tab and you will see there are new settings for Dual Lobe Specular weight and if you apply a setting of more that 0 to that slider, you get more sliders called Dual Lobe Specular Reflectivity, Specular Lobe Glossiness 1 and 2 and Dual Lobe Specular Ratio. I've also just noticed that there is a "Visible in Simulation" button under the Parameters tab that I'm not sure what the use is. Hmmmm. Extremely thought provoking and will be subject to my own speculation. LOL

    Laurie

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  • IceDragonArtIceDragonArt Posts: 12,727

    I loaded the update on my work computer ( I don't ever render on that one, I just use it to test out the latest version of whatever, before I load it onto my personal stuff.  The custom categories seem to be working as they should, and I am having no problem adding to them, or moving things around.  I will probably test it a bit more over the next couple of days then go ahead and load it up.

  • BobvanBobvan Posts: 2,653
    Ice Dragon Art said:

    I loaded the update on my work computer ( I don't ever render on that one, I just use it to test out the latest version of whatever, before I load it onto my personal stuff.  The custom categories seem to be working as they should, and I am having no problem adding to them, or moving things around.  I will probably test it a bit more over the next couple of days then go ahead and load it up.

    Im on render # 6 on my new beast machine no issues so far

  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 17,704

    So far, I've noticed white fireflies with the new iray. Most seem to be in the darker shadow areas of bodyhair products like Real Hairy. I never go those before using the same product dozens of times with no white specs.

  • tj_1ca9500btj_1ca9500b Posts: 2,057

    There's enough grumbling here that I'll probably hold off on the 4.9 update for now.

    4.9.4 is lurking in my DIM menu under updates (as is an update for Measure Metrics for 4.9.4), but I haven't clicked the install buttons, so it'll stay there until I do so (metered connection).  Unless it gets sneaky...

    I REALLY don't want to have to reinstall a bunch of plugins/re-input serial numbers for various plugins.

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