My Lease Is Nearly Up On The Complaint Thread

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  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675

    my tea tastes leafier than usual.  same brand. ???

  • LeatherGryphonLeatherGryphon Posts: 12,076
    edited July 2016
    MistyMist said:
    DanaTA said:
    MistyMist said:

    >.<

     

    That's just disgusting!  The Italian guy knew!

    Dana

     

    get the feeling our educational system isn't much educational?

    But I bet you that they could tell you soap opera plots for the last 20 years.  

    Dorothy: How can you talk if you haven't got a brain?
    Scarecrow: I don't know... But some people without brains do an awful lot of talking... don't they?

    "Idiocracy" a horror story coming true.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiocracy

    I'm so glad I'm closer to my end than my beginning.

     

    Post edited by LeatherGryphon on
  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675

    remember when we wanted to look up something, we had to go to a library.  open a drawer of cards with dewey decimal #s.  The era of the dewey decimal.  librarian was a 4 year degree. 

    looking up newspaper articles on the microfiche machine.

    the days of going to blockbuster to rent a movie. rewinding.  late return fees.  


    the lil yellow snap in things to play 45s.  cutting out the back of cereal boxes for a cardboard 45.  

  • TangoAlphaTangoAlpha Posts: 4,586

    My record player had a drop-over spindle extender, but I don't remember ever seeing a 45 with anything other than a regular sized hole. I guess they must have existed, but I never had one.

  • LeatherGryphonLeatherGryphon Posts: 12,076
    edited July 2016
    MistyMist said:

    remember when we wanted to look up something, we had to go to a library.  open a drawer of cards with dewey decimal #s.  The era of the dewey decimal.  librarian was a 4 year degree. 

    looking up newspaper articles on the microfiche machine.

    the days of going to blockbuster to rent a movie. rewinding.  late return fees.  


    the lil yellow snap in things to play 45s.  cutting out the back of cereal boxes for a cardboard 45.  

    Telephone numbers with only 4 digits.

    Automobile headlight highbeam switch on the floor beside your left foot.

    78 RPM records.

    Cheap clock radios that started pre-buzzing a minute or so before they actually turned on.

    Oily creams for your hair.

    Separately purchased packs of naked razor blades for shaving.

    Being able to burn your household trash in a barrel in your backyard because it was all wood or paper, no plastic.

    Laundry hanging on a clothesline outdoor.

    Men's pants designs that came half way up their abdomen.

    Lobster Tails bigger than your plate.

    That little triangular vent window in the front that was the only relief you had before air-conditioning was offered in cars.

    The TV repairman.

    Big cans of Charles Chips potato chips delivered to your door.

    The Interstate roads being new?

    "Stuckey's" gift shops in the south.

    15 cent McDonald's burgers?

    The coal truck dumping its load down that slide into your coal bin.

    Toboggans.

    That clock that never worked, in your car dash.

     

    Post edited by LeatherGryphon on
  • McGyverMcGyver Posts: 7,085
    kyoto kid said:
    McGyver said:

    Complaint...

    Has anyone noticed recently that expiration dates on products are getting harder to find? 

    It used to be that the would appear somewhere on the label, usually in a white rectangle that said "Best By:____" or "Discard After:____", but now some items that used to have them don't or will have them blank and the expiration date will be in some ridiculous location blended into some other coded info like Lot09088664445-008457 042614 M011017371   So I'm supposed to discern from all that numeric rubish that my Vienna sausages expired in 042616... Or is that the plant number?

    The bottle of Steak an Chops marinade I marinated some steaks in has "Use By____" printed on the neck label... But it's blank.... The back label has a poorly registered dot matrix code printed on the label... LN5N002805092 EX0532016 T44356.... So that's EX as in expires... 05... May? 3... 3rd? 2016? Why is May "05" and the third "3" and not "03" or does it expire in May of the year 32016... That's pretty good shelf life, but something is not tracking there... Is it Euro style with date before month...? Well the same question... Why is one "05" and the other just "3"... Really... Okay, so I use it and forget to rinse the bottle for the recycling bin and so just a few minutes ago I rinse it out and notice a laser printed dot matrixish code 15SB 21:34 EXP 08/2014.... The printing is actually tiny pin holes in the surface of the plastic... No color and only visible if the bottle is empty and you get the area wet... And its sideways along the mould seam.  How TF is someone supposed to see that? 

    And yeah, it expired in 2014...

    So I look through the cabinet and I find another bottle of the same stuff and after looking in the same area where the other code was I can with some effort find the expiration date which was printed in the same manner... So I go looking through the pantry finding almost ever other bottle or can either lacking expiration dates or them being presented in a horribly confusing idiotic manner, many of the label still actually having a space for the expiration date, but the date not being printed anywhere near that...

    This is the kind of unnecessary stuff that really annoys me... Why would anyone do that? My guess is it's more convenient to roller or laser print the bottle or can in some assbackwards spot nobody would think to look.... but is that really the responsible, or right thing to do?  I'm sure if you asked the person tasked with deciding if that was a good idea, they would say "Well, if the consumer is in doubt, they should just discard the item and purchase a fresh one... the code is there and if you really have a question you could either send us an email or call our 800 number and we would be happy to help you sort that out"... Knowing full and clear that maybe 1 in 3247 people might send an email... Maybe... If was easy to locate the actual place to send it.

    I hope that everyone who makes a decision to allow a stupidly printed expiration and just blows off the potential consequences to others as a "well, it's their own fault"... I hope they ALL get the most historically epic case of explosives diarrhea, the kind that diarrhea experts are shocked by... I hope they poop themselves inside out and back again... Maybe twice... I hope they have horrible loud chronic noisy wet staccato flatulence of the sort that would frighten away hungry Tyrannosaurus rexs, for months and particularly in public and in meeting. It may seem vindictive... And you know what... it is... And I'm happy I'm vindictive about it, because everyone is always like "ah, what can you do?... Thats what happens"... Until something terrible happens and then everyone is swinging from the rafters like angry orangutans, shouting for change.  Bah...   Complaint over.

     

    ...I feel the same way about packaging designers. I am still convinced they have a mean streak twoards those of us with arthritis. Cirkey a kid can easily open one of those "child safe" a pill bottles while I have to rummage around to find a pliers or Vise Grip. Then there are those "safety seals" which I guess are there to keep the product safe from ever being used.

    I hate those things... when my kids were toddlers I gave them both a bunch of empty "child-proof" bottles and asked them what they looked like that for... they both responded that the stuff inside was poison...or something to that effect, so okay... then they knew that they were not supposed to open those kind of bottles... I then told them I wanted to test the empty bottles to see if they were really made right... both of them figured all of them out fairly quick... they are twins, but one is a bit more mechanically inclined so she was slightly quicker, but none of the bottles was very child-proof... usually now I just grab the lid and twist it like a gorilla, stripping off all the stops and tabs within... it might be hard for someone with arthritis, but I do it for all of you who want to, but can't... that and I'm a fairly destructive person anyway.

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,840
    MistyMist said:

    >.<

     

    mega million lotto !! 415 million

    come on lotto, momma needs a new pair of deko cores!!

    ...heh, it took someone from Europe to answer correctly and quickly.  Perhaps my idea of retiring to Zagreb may not be a bad one after all.

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,840
    McGyver said:
    kyoto kid said:
    McGyver said:

    Complaint...

    Has anyone noticed recently that expiration dates on products are getting harder to find? 

    It used to be that the would appear somewhere on the label, usually in a white rectangle that said "Best By:____" or "Discard After:____", but now some items that used to have them don't or will have them blank and the expiration date will be in some ridiculous location blended into some other coded info like Lot09088664445-008457 042614 M011017371   So I'm supposed to discern from all that numeric rubish that my Vienna sausages expired in 042616... Or is that the plant number?

    The bottle of Steak an Chops marinade I marinated some steaks in has "Use By____" printed on the neck label... But it's blank.... The back label has a poorly registered dot matrix code printed on the label... LN5N002805092 EX0532016 T44356.... So that's EX as in expires... 05... May? 3... 3rd? 2016? Why is May "05" and the third "3" and not "03" or does it expire in May of the year 32016... That's pretty good shelf life, but something is not tracking there... Is it Euro style with date before month...? Well the same question... Why is one "05" and the other just "3"... Really... Okay, so I use it and forget to rinse the bottle for the recycling bin and so just a few minutes ago I rinse it out and notice a laser printed dot matrixish code 15SB 21:34 EXP 08/2014.... The printing is actually tiny pin holes in the surface of the plastic... No color and only visible if the bottle is empty and you get the area wet... And its sideways along the mould seam.  How TF is someone supposed to see that? 

    And yeah, it expired in 2014...

    So I look through the cabinet and I find another bottle of the same stuff and after looking in the same area where the other code was I can with some effort find the expiration date which was printed in the same manner... So I go looking through the pantry finding almost ever other bottle or can either lacking expiration dates or them being presented in a horribly confusing idiotic manner, many of the label still actually having a space for the expiration date, but the date not being printed anywhere near that...

    This is the kind of unnecessary stuff that really annoys me... Why would anyone do that? My guess is it's more convenient to roller or laser print the bottle or can in some assbackwards spot nobody would think to look.... but is that really the responsible, or right thing to do?  I'm sure if you asked the person tasked with deciding if that was a good idea, they would say "Well, if the consumer is in doubt, they should just discard the item and purchase a fresh one... the code is there and if you really have a question you could either send us an email or call our 800 number and we would be happy to help you sort that out"... Knowing full and clear that maybe 1 in 3247 people might send an email... Maybe... If was easy to locate the actual place to send it.

    I hope that everyone who makes a decision to allow a stupidly printed expiration and just blows off the potential consequences to others as a "well, it's their own fault"... I hope they ALL get the most historically epic case of explosives diarrhea, the kind that diarrhea experts are shocked by... I hope they poop themselves inside out and back again... Maybe twice... I hope they have horrible loud chronic noisy wet staccato flatulence of the sort that would frighten away hungry Tyrannosaurus rexs, for months and particularly in public and in meeting. It may seem vindictive... And you know what... it is... And I'm happy I'm vindictive about it, because everyone is always like "ah, what can you do?... Thats what happens"... Until something terrible happens and then everyone is swinging from the rafters like angry orangutans, shouting for change.  Bah...   Complaint over.

     

    ...I feel the same way about packaging designers. I am still convinced they have a mean streak twoards those of us with arthritis. Cirkey a kid can easily open one of those "child safe" a pill bottles while I have to rummage around to find a pliers or Vise Grip. Then there are those "safety seals" which I guess are there to keep the product safe from ever being used.

    I hate those things... when my kids were toddlers I gave them both a bunch of empty "child-proof" bottles and asked them what they looked like that for... they both responded that the stuff inside was poison...or something to that effect, so okay... then they knew that they were not supposed to open those kind of bottles... I then told them I wanted to test the empty bottles to see if they were really made right... both of them figured all of them out fairly quick... they are twins, but one is a bit more mechanically inclined so she was slightly quicker, but none of the bottles was very child-proof... usually now I just grab the lid and twist it like a gorilla, stripping off all the stops and tabs within... it might be hard for someone with arthritis, but I do it for all of you who want to, but can't... that and I'm a fairly destructive person anyway.

    ..for my ibuprofen, I have separate bottle that is easy to open I keep on the night stand which I fill from one of the big 500 or 1,000 ct ones. I also have bottle and jar cap wrenches in the kitchen as well as a good sharp pair of scissors and electric can opener. Also really dislike those cans with the rounded aluminum bottoms as I usually use an old "churchkey" to pierce a a small hole in the bottom (which breaks the vacuum seal so everything comes out nice cleanly), as on those types of cans there is no edge for it to catch on.

  • TJohnTJohn Posts: 11,339

  • LeatherGryphonLeatherGryphon Posts: 12,076
    edited July 2016
    kyoto kid said:
    McGyver said:
    kyoto kid said:
    McGyver said:

    Complaint...

    Has anyone noticed recently that expiration dates on products are getting harder to find? 

    It used to be that the would appear somewhere on the label, usually in a white rectangle that said "Best By:____" or "Discard After:____", but now some items that used to have them don't or will have them blank and the expiration date will be in some ridiculous location blended into some other coded info like Lot09088664445-008457 042614 M011017371   So I'm supposed to discern from all that numeric rubish that my Vienna sausages expired in 042616... Or is that the plant number?

    The bottle of Steak an Chops marinade I marinated some steaks in has "Use By____" printed on the neck label... But it's blank.... The back label has a poorly registered dot matrix code printed on the label... LN5N002805092 EX0532016 T44356.... So that's EX as in expires... 05... May? 3... 3rd? 2016? Why is May "05" and the third "3" and not "03" or does it expire in May of the year 32016... That's pretty good shelf life, but something is not tracking there... Is it Euro style with date before month...? Well the same question... Why is one "05" and the other just "3"... Really... Okay, so I use it and forget to rinse the bottle for the recycling bin and so just a few minutes ago I rinse it out and notice a laser printed dot matrixish code 15SB 21:34 EXP 08/2014.... The printing is actually tiny pin holes in the surface of the plastic... No color and only visible if the bottle is empty and you get the area wet... And its sideways along the mould seam.  How TF is someone supposed to see that? 

    And yeah, it expired in 2014...

    So I look through the cabinet and I find another bottle of the same stuff and after looking in the same area where the other code was I can with some effort find the expiration date which was printed in the same manner... So I go looking through the pantry finding almost ever other bottle or can either lacking expiration dates or them being presented in a horribly confusing idiotic manner, many of the label still actually having a space for the expiration date, but the date not being printed anywhere near that...

    This is the kind of unnecessary stuff that really annoys me... Why would anyone do that? My guess is it's more convenient to roller or laser print the bottle or can in some assbackwards spot nobody would think to look.... but is that really the responsible, or right thing to do?  I'm sure if you asked the person tasked with deciding if that was a good idea, they would say "Well, if the consumer is in doubt, they should just discard the item and purchase a fresh one... the code is there and if you really have a question you could either send us an email or call our 800 number and we would be happy to help you sort that out"... Knowing full and clear that maybe 1 in 3247 people might send an email... Maybe... If was easy to locate the actual place to send it.

    I hope that everyone who makes a decision to allow a stupidly printed expiration and just blows off the potential consequences to others as a "well, it's their own fault"... I hope they ALL get the most historically epic case of explosives diarrhea, the kind that diarrhea experts are shocked by... I hope they poop themselves inside out and back again... Maybe twice... I hope they have horrible loud chronic noisy wet staccato flatulence of the sort that would frighten away hungry Tyrannosaurus rexs, for months and particularly in public and in meeting. It may seem vindictive... And you know what... it is... And I'm happy I'm vindictive about it, because everyone is always like "ah, what can you do?... Thats what happens"... Until something terrible happens and then everyone is swinging from the rafters like angry orangutans, shouting for change.  Bah...   Complaint over.

     

    ...I feel the same way about packaging designers. I am still convinced they have a mean streak twoards those of us with arthritis. Cirkey a kid can easily open one of those "child safe" a pill bottles while I have to rummage around to find a pliers or Vise Grip. Then there are those "safety seals" which I guess are there to keep the product safe from ever being used.

    I hate those things... when my kids were toddlers I gave them both a bunch of empty "child-proof" bottles and asked them what they looked like that for... they both responded that the stuff inside was poison...or something to that effect, so okay... then they knew that they were not supposed to open those kind of bottles... I then told them I wanted to test the empty bottles to see if they were really made right... both of them figured all of them out fairly quick... they are twins, but one is a bit more mechanically inclined so she was slightly quicker, but none of the bottles was very child-proof... usually now I just grab the lid and twist it like a gorilla, stripping off all the stops and tabs within... it might be hard for someone with arthritis, but I do it for all of you who want to, but can't... that and I'm a fairly destructive person anyway.

    ..for my ibuprofen, I have separate bottle that is easy to open I keep on the night stand which I fill from one of the big 500 or 1,000 ct ones. I also have bottle and jar cap wrenches in the kitchen as well as a good sharp pair of scissors and electric can opener. Also really dislike those cans with the rounded aluminum bottoms as I usually use an old "churchkey" to pierce a a small hole in the bottom (which breaks the vacuum seal so everything comes out nice cleanly), as on those types of cans there is no edge for it to catch on.

    Ice pick enlightened

     

    Post edited by LeatherGryphon on
  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,840
    MistyMist said:

    remember when we wanted to look up something, we had to go to a library.  open a drawer of cards with dewey decimal #s.  The era of the dewey decimal.  librarian was a 4 year degree. 

    looking up newspaper articles on the microfiche machine.

    the days of going to blockbuster to rent a movie. rewinding.  late return fees.  


    the lil yellow snap in things to play 45s.  cutting out the back of cereal boxes for a cardboard 45.  

    Telephone numbers with only 4 digits.

    Automobile headlight highbeam switch on the floor beside your left foot.

    78 RPM records.

    Cheap clock radios that started pre-buzzing a minute or so before they actually turned on.

    Oily creams for your hair.

    Separately purchased packs of naked razor blades for shaving.

    Being able to burn your household trash in a barrel in your backyard because it was all wood or paper, no plastic.

    Laundry hanging on a clothesline outdoor.

    Men's pants designs that came half way up their abdomen.

    Lobster Tails bigger than your plate.

    That little triangular vent window in the front that was the only relief you had before air-conditioning was offered in cars.

    The TV repairman.

    Big cans of Charles Chips potato chips delivered to your door.

    The Interstate roads being new?

    "Stuckey's" gift shops in the south.

    15 cent McDonald's burgers?

    The coal truck dumping its load down that slide into your coal bin.

    Toboggans.

    That clock that never worked, in your car dash.

     

    ...arrrrgh...don't get me started...

    ...roller skates with metal wheels that caught every crack in the pavement.

    ...real "penny candy"

    ...when the news was really "news".

    ...when for 50¢ you could go to the cinema, see a double bill Saturday matinee with two cartoons, and popcorn, a soda, and a box of Jujyfruits cost 10¢ each

    ...you had to ask the parents for permission to use the telephone

    ...there were phone booths every few blocks.

    ...the place to hang out after school was the corner grocery or the soda fountain at the druggists.

    ...city bus drivers gave change, wore a real uniform, and the buses (at least where I lived) had padded leather covered seats.

    ...graffiti was actually readable and at times, even made sense.

    ...root beer was made with real sassafras root.

    ...I told you don't get me started...

  • AnotherUserNameAnotherUserName Posts: 2,727

    I just mowed the lawn or should I say the dirt patch formerly known as the lawn... front yard and back.

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,840

    ..oh yeah, almost forgot....

    Happy Canada Day

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675
    kyoto kid said:

    ..oh yeah, almost forgot....

    Happy Canada Day

     

    beautiful cloth physics!!!

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675
    McGyver said:
    kyoto kid said:
    McGyver said:

    Complaint...

    Has anyone noticed recently that expiration dates on products are getting harder to find? 

    It used to be that the would appear somewhere on the label, usually in a white rectangle that said "Best By:____" or "Discard After:____", but now some items that used to have them don't or will have them blank and the expiration date will be in some ridiculous location blended into some other coded info like Lot09088664445-008457 042614 M011017371   So I'm supposed to discern from all that numeric rubish that my Vienna sausages expired in 042616... Or is that the plant number?

    The bottle of Steak an Chops marinade I marinated some steaks in has "Use By____" printed on the neck label... But it's blank.... The back label has a poorly registered dot matrix code printed on the label... LN5N002805092 EX0532016 T44356.... So that's EX as in expires... 05... May? 3... 3rd? 2016? Why is May "05" and the third "3" and not "03" or does it expire in May of the year 32016... That's pretty good shelf life, but something is not tracking there... Is it Euro style with date before month...? Well the same question... Why is one "05" and the other just "3"... Really... Okay, so I use it and forget to rinse the bottle for the recycling bin and so just a few minutes ago I rinse it out and notice a laser printed dot matrixish code 15SB 21:34 EXP 08/2014.... The printing is actually tiny pin holes in the surface of the plastic... No color and only visible if the bottle is empty and you get the area wet... And its sideways along the mould seam.  How TF is someone supposed to see that? 

    And yeah, it expired in 2014...

    So I look through the cabinet and I find another bottle of the same stuff and after looking in the same area where the other code was I can with some effort find the expiration date which was printed in the same manner... So I go looking through the pantry finding almost ever other bottle or can either lacking expiration dates or them being presented in a horribly confusing idiotic manner, many of the label still actually having a space for the expiration date, but the date not being printed anywhere near that...

    This is the kind of unnecessary stuff that really annoys me... Why would anyone do that? My guess is it's more convenient to roller or laser print the bottle or can in some assbackwards spot nobody would think to look.... but is that really the responsible, or right thing to do?  I'm sure if you asked the person tasked with deciding if that was a good idea, they would say "Well, if the consumer is in doubt, they should just discard the item and purchase a fresh one... the code is there and if you really have a question you could either send us an email or call our 800 number and we would be happy to help you sort that out"... Knowing full and clear that maybe 1 in 3247 people might send an email... Maybe... If was easy to locate the actual place to send it.

    I hope that everyone who makes a decision to allow a stupidly printed expiration and just blows off the potential consequences to others as a "well, it's their own fault"... I hope they ALL get the most historically epic case of explosives diarrhea, the kind that diarrhea experts are shocked by... I hope they poop themselves inside out and back again... Maybe twice... I hope they have horrible loud chronic noisy wet staccato flatulence of the sort that would frighten away hungry Tyrannosaurus rexs, for months and particularly in public and in meeting. It may seem vindictive... And you know what... it is... And I'm happy I'm vindictive about it, because everyone is always like "ah, what can you do?... Thats what happens"... Until something terrible happens and then everyone is swinging from the rafters like angry orangutans, shouting for change.  Bah...   Complaint over.

     

    ...I feel the same way about packaging designers. I am still convinced they have a mean streak twoards those of us with arthritis. Cirkey a kid can easily open one of those "child safe" a pill bottles while I have to rummage around to find a pliers or Vise Grip. Then there are those "safety seals" which I guess are there to keep the product safe from ever being used.

    I hate those things... when my kids were toddlers I gave them both a bunch of empty "child-proof" bottles and asked them what they looked like that for... they both responded that the stuff inside was poison...or something to that effect, so okay... then they knew that they were not supposed to open those kind of bottles... I then told them I wanted to test the empty bottles to see if they were really made right... both of them figured all of them out fairly quick... they are twins, but one is a bit more mechanically inclined so she was slightly quicker, but none of the bottles was very child-proof... usually now I just grab the lid and twist it like a gorilla, stripping off all the stops and tabs within... it might be hard for someone with arthritis, but I do it for all of you who want to, but can't... that and I'm a fairly destructive person anyway.

     

    Planet of the Gorillas woulda been a whole different movie franchise  

    Heston, "paws off me, dirty gorillas" 

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675
    kyoto kid said:
    MistyMist said:

    remember when we wanted to look up something, we had to go to a library.  open a drawer of cards with dewey decimal #s.  The era of the dewey decimal.  librarian was a 4 year degree. 

    looking up newspaper articles on the microfiche machine.

    the days of going to blockbuster to rent a movie. rewinding.  late return fees.  


    the lil yellow snap in things to play 45s.  cutting out the back of cereal boxes for a cardboard 45.  

    Telephone numbers with only 4 digits.

    Automobile headlight highbeam switch on the floor beside your left foot.

    78 RPM records.

    Cheap clock radios that started pre-buzzing a minute or so before they actually turned on.

    Oily creams for your hair.

    Separately purchased packs of naked razor blades for shaving.

    Being able to burn your household trash in a barrel in your backyard because it was all wood or paper, no plastic.

    Laundry hanging on a clothesline outdoor.

    Men's pants designs that came half way up their abdomen.

    Lobster Tails bigger than your plate.

    That little triangular vent window in the front that was the only relief you had before air-conditioning was offered in cars.

    The TV repairman.

    Big cans of Charles Chips potato chips delivered to your door.

    The Interstate roads being new?

    "Stuckey's" gift shops in the south.

    15 cent McDonald's burgers?

    The coal truck dumping its load down that slide into your coal bin.

    Toboggans.

    That clock that never worked, in your car dash.

     

    ...arrrrgh...don't get me started...

    ...roller skates with metal wheels that caught every crack in the pavement.

    ...real "penny candy"

    ...when the news was really "news".

    ...when for 50¢ you could go to the cinema, see a double bill Saturday matinee with two cartoons, and popcorn, a soda, and a box of Jujyfruits cost 10¢ each

    ...you had to ask the parents for permission to use the telephone

    ...there were phone booths every few blocks.

    ...the place to hang out after school was the corner grocery or the soda fountain at the druggists.

    ...city bus drivers gave change, wore a real uniform, and the buses (at least where I lived) had padded leather covered seats.

    ...graffiti was actually readable and at times, even made sense.

    ...root beer was made with real sassafras root.

    ...I told you don't get me started...

     

    i miss clotheslines.  no laundry mats for our mommies

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675

    My record player had a drop-over spindle extender, but I don't remember ever seeing a 45 with anything other than a regular sized hole. I guess they must have existed, but I never had one.

     

    dont remember spindle extenders.  remember i could stack 3 records on the spindle.  skips on the records >.<

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675

    i'se totally confused my runtime between the daveO madlab and the artcollab lab

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,840
    MistyMist said:
    kyoto kid said:
    MistyMist said:

    remember when we wanted to look up something, we had to go to a library.  open a drawer of cards with dewey decimal #s.  The era of the dewey decimal.  librarian was a 4 year degree. 

    looking up newspaper articles on the microfiche machine.

    the days of going to blockbuster to rent a movie. rewinding.  late return fees.  


    the lil yellow snap in things to play 45s.  cutting out the back of cereal boxes for a cardboard 45.  

    Telephone numbers with only 4 digits.

    Automobile headlight highbeam switch on the floor beside your left foot.

    78 RPM records.

    Cheap clock radios that started pre-buzzing a minute or so before they actually turned on.

    Oily creams for your hair.

    Separately purchased packs of naked razor blades for shaving.

    Being able to burn your household trash in a barrel in your backyard because it was all wood or paper, no plastic.

    Laundry hanging on a clothesline outdoor.

    Men's pants designs that came half way up their abdomen.

    Lobster Tails bigger than your plate.

    That little triangular vent window in the front that was the only relief you had before air-conditioning was offered in cars.

    The TV repairman.

    Big cans of Charles Chips potato chips delivered to your door.

    The Interstate roads being new?

    "Stuckey's" gift shops in the south.

    15 cent McDonald's burgers?

    The coal truck dumping its load down that slide into your coal bin.

    Toboggans.

    That clock that never worked, in your car dash.

     

    ...arrrrgh...don't get me started...

    ...roller skates with metal wheels that caught every crack in the pavement.

    ...real "penny candy"

    ...when the news was really "news".

    ...when for 50¢ you could go to the cinema, see a double bill Saturday matinee with two cartoons, and popcorn, a soda, and a box of Jujyfruits cost 10¢ each

    ...you had to ask the parents for permission to use the telephone

    ...there were phone booths every few blocks.

    ...the place to hang out after school was the corner grocery or the soda fountain at the druggists.

    ...city bus drivers gave change, wore a real uniform, and the buses (at least where I lived) had padded leather covered seats.

    ...graffiti was actually readable and at times, even made sense.

    ...root beer was made with real sassafras root.

    ...I told you don't get me started...

     

    i miss clotheslines.  no laundry mats for our mommies

    ...yeah I remember mum hanging laundry out on nice days. We had a set of three 6' tall wooden posts with 2 x 4s horizontally between them that had hooks from which we ran clotheslines to the back wall of the house. Didn't need fabric softeners or artificial fragrances back then.

    The Washing Machine was an old Speed Queen wringer washer that had to be filled from a hose attached to the utility sink faucet. Before that it was filled from a hand pump next to the sinks that lead from a large in-ground rain barrel behind the house and for hot water washing, water had to be boiled on the stove upstairs and brought down as we didn't have a water heater yet (same had to be done for baths).

    During rainy weather or winter she had to hang it in the basement as we didn't have one of those new fanged dryers yet.

    ...yeah interesting times back then.. 

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675

    siiiiigh  been drooling over Leo 7 Pro Bundle sale % for like 2 hours now.  but he's absolutely useless in my app of choice.

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675
    edited July 2016
    kyoto kid said:
    MistyMist said:
    kyoto kid said:
    MistyMist said:

    remember when we wanted to look up something, we had to go to a library.  open a drawer of cards with dewey decimal #s.  The era of the dewey decimal.  librarian was a 4 year degree. 

    looking up newspaper articles on the microfiche machine.

    the days of going to blockbuster to rent a movie. rewinding.  late return fees.  


    the lil yellow snap in things to play 45s.  cutting out the back of cereal boxes for a cardboard 45.  

    Telephone numbers with only 4 digits.

    Automobile headlight highbeam switch on the floor beside your left foot.

    78 RPM records.

    Cheap clock radios that started pre-buzzing a minute or so before they actually turned on.

    Oily creams for your hair.

    Separately purchased packs of naked razor blades for shaving.

    Being able to burn your household trash in a barrel in your backyard because it was all wood or paper, no plastic.

    Laundry hanging on a clothesline outdoor.

    Men's pants designs that came half way up their abdomen.

    Lobster Tails bigger than your plate.

    That little triangular vent window in the front that was the only relief you had before air-conditioning was offered in cars.

    The TV repairman.

    Big cans of Charles Chips potato chips delivered to your door.

    The Interstate roads being new?

    "Stuckey's" gift shops in the south.

    15 cent McDonald's burgers?

    The coal truck dumping its load down that slide into your coal bin.

    Toboggans.

    That clock that never worked, in your car dash.

     

    ...arrrrgh...don't get me started...

    ...roller skates with metal wheels that caught every crack in the pavement.

    ...real "penny candy"

    ...when the news was really "news".

    ...when for 50¢ you could go to the cinema, see a double bill Saturday matinee with two cartoons, and popcorn, a soda, and a box of Jujyfruits cost 10¢ each

    ...you had to ask the parents for permission to use the telephone

    ...there were phone booths every few blocks.

    ...the place to hang out after school was the corner grocery or the soda fountain at the druggists.

    ...city bus drivers gave change, wore a real uniform, and the buses (at least where I lived) had padded leather covered seats.

    ...graffiti was actually readable and at times, even made sense.

    ...root beer was made with real sassafras root.

    ...I told you don't get me started...

     

    i miss clotheslines.  no laundry mats for our mommies

    ...yeah I remember mum hanging laundry out on nice days. We had a set of three 6' tall wooden posts with 2 x 4s horizontally between them that had hooks from which we ran clotheslines to the back wall of the house. Didn't need fabric softeners or artificial fragrances back then.

    The Washing Machine was an old Speed Queen wringer washer that had to be filled from a hose attached to the utility sink faucet. Before that it was filled from a hand pump next to the sinks that lead from a large in-ground rain barrel behind the house and for hot water washing, water had to be boiled on the stove upstairs and brought down as we didn't have a water heater yet (same had to be done for baths).

    During rainy weather or winter she had to hang it in the basement as we didn't have one of those new fanged dryers yet.

    ...yeah interesting times back then.. 

     

    uh oh watch out.

    dragging out the Babs.  groovy.  is funny the things remembering like it was last week, not 40 years ago

     

    Post edited by Mistara on
  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675
    edited July 2016

    woe nohs.  feelin weepy nostalgias nows

     

    blue eyeshadow.  oh em geeee  blue eyeshadow ... i dont have any, have to get some. and lip gloss.

    Post edited by Mistara on
  • LeatherGryphonLeatherGryphon Posts: 12,076
    edited July 2016

    I never saw a shower until I went to high school.  Our house only had a bathtub.  Old clawfoot cast iron bathtub.

    We always had running water but one of the houses also had a still working hand pump outside the back door.  It's actually still there and I believe it still works but it hasn't been serviced in about 40 years.

    I remember many houses in town had a three foot stone pillar near the street with an iron ring loosely anchored into the top of it to let you tie your horse & buggy to it.  A couple still exist.

    I remember when there were huge old maple trees all over town.  Many of them have gotten old and been removed. 

    It's scary when you realize that you remember that there were some trees planted when you were young and you watched them grow big and that you've outlived them.

    I remember the town band playing Sousa marches at summer celebrations.

    In this tiny town I remember the blacksmith shop and the train station and half a dozen other 19th century store buildings that are now replaced or turned into parking lots.

    I remember the town doctor making house calls!

     

    Post edited by LeatherGryphon on
  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,840
    edited July 2016

    ...here in Portland in some of the inner neighbourhoods there are still rings mounted in the curbs for tying horses off to.

    We also just had a bathtub as well. though it was a little newer. One of the places I lived after I moved to Portland had an old clawfoot tub. Loved it as you could  fill it up and just submerge yourself.

    My former elementary school was raised and replaced with a tacky looking apartment complex. All the wood framed overpasses over the old freight railway line (which is now a freeway spur) are gone. The old Lakeside powerplant was demolished and replaced with a tacky condo complex.

    In our neighbourhood it was towering Elms with their lovely canopies of leaves making for welcome shade along the street in summer  Sadly all teh elms in teh city succumbed to Dutch Elm Disease. Looking at pics of the neighbourhood now it looks so "barren".   Here in Portland we have a neighbourhood near by called Ladd's Addition, which has Elm lined streets. Reminds me of the old 'hood in Milwaukee where I grew up.  Someday when I win the lotto I want to get a house there.

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  • DanaTADanaTA Posts: 13,333
    MistyMist said:
    DanaTA said:
    MistyMist said:

    >.<

     

    That's just disgusting!  The Italian guy knew!

    Dana

     

    get the feeling our educational system isn't much educational?

    Well, I think our educational system is underfunded and over tested.  But also, you can't force a student to learn.  And most don't really seem like they want to learn anything.  They're content to use texting "shorthand" and other colloquial expressions.  I mean, for reals?  (I never say that...it even looks stupid typed out!)

    Dana

  • DanaTADanaTA Posts: 13,333
    kyoto kid said:
    McGyver said:
    kyoto kid said:
    McGyver said:

    Complaint...

    Has anyone noticed recently that expiration dates on products are getting harder to find? 

    It used to be that the would appear somewhere on the label, usually in a white rectangle that said "Best By:____" or "Discard After:____", but now some items that used to have them don't or will have them blank and the expiration date will be in some ridiculous location blended into some other coded info like Lot09088664445-008457 042614 M011017371   So I'm supposed to discern from all that numeric rubish that my Vienna sausages expired in 042616... Or is that the plant number?

    The bottle of Steak an Chops marinade I marinated some steaks in has "Use By____" printed on the neck label... But it's blank.... The back label has a poorly registered dot matrix code printed on the label... LN5N002805092 EX0532016 T44356.... So that's EX as in expires... 05... May? 3... 3rd? 2016? Why is May "05" and the third "3" and not "03" or does it expire in May of the year 32016... That's pretty good shelf life, but something is not tracking there... Is it Euro style with date before month...? Well the same question... Why is one "05" and the other just "3"... Really... Okay, so I use it and forget to rinse the bottle for the recycling bin and so just a few minutes ago I rinse it out and notice a laser printed dot matrixish code 15SB 21:34 EXP 08/2014.... The printing is actually tiny pin holes in the surface of the plastic... No color and only visible if the bottle is empty and you get the area wet... And its sideways along the mould seam.  How TF is someone supposed to see that? 

    And yeah, it expired in 2014...

    So I look through the cabinet and I find another bottle of the same stuff and after looking in the same area where the other code was I can with some effort find the expiration date which was printed in the same manner... So I go looking through the pantry finding almost ever other bottle or can either lacking expiration dates or them being presented in a horribly confusing idiotic manner, many of the label still actually having a space for the expiration date, but the date not being printed anywhere near that...

    This is the kind of unnecessary stuff that really annoys me... Why would anyone do that? My guess is it's more convenient to roller or laser print the bottle or can in some assbackwards spot nobody would think to look.... but is that really the responsible, or right thing to do?  I'm sure if you asked the person tasked with deciding if that was a good idea, they would say "Well, if the consumer is in doubt, they should just discard the item and purchase a fresh one... the code is there and if you really have a question you could either send us an email or call our 800 number and we would be happy to help you sort that out"... Knowing full and clear that maybe 1 in 3247 people might send an email... Maybe... If was easy to locate the actual place to send it.

    I hope that everyone who makes a decision to allow a stupidly printed expiration and just blows off the potential consequences to others as a "well, it's their own fault"... I hope they ALL get the most historically epic case of explosives diarrhea, the kind that diarrhea experts are shocked by... I hope they poop themselves inside out and back again... Maybe twice... I hope they have horrible loud chronic noisy wet staccato flatulence of the sort that would frighten away hungry Tyrannosaurus rexs, for months and particularly in public and in meeting. It may seem vindictive... And you know what... it is... And I'm happy I'm vindictive about it, because everyone is always like "ah, what can you do?... Thats what happens"... Until something terrible happens and then everyone is swinging from the rafters like angry orangutans, shouting for change.  Bah...   Complaint over.

     

    ...I feel the same way about packaging designers. I am still convinced they have a mean streak twoards those of us with arthritis. Cirkey a kid can easily open one of those "child safe" a pill bottles while I have to rummage around to find a pliers or Vise Grip. Then there are those "safety seals" which I guess are there to keep the product safe from ever being used.

    I hate those things... when my kids were toddlers I gave them both a bunch of empty "child-proof" bottles and asked them what they looked like that for... they both responded that the stuff inside was poison...or something to that effect, so okay... then they knew that they were not supposed to open those kind of bottles... I then told them I wanted to test the empty bottles to see if they were really made right... both of them figured all of them out fairly quick... they are twins, but one is a bit more mechanically inclined so she was slightly quicker, but none of the bottles was very child-proof... usually now I just grab the lid and twist it like a gorilla, stripping off all the stops and tabs within... it might be hard for someone with arthritis, but I do it for all of you who want to, but can't... that and I'm a fairly destructive person anyway.

    ..for my ibuprofen, I have separate bottle that is easy to open I keep on the night stand which I fill from one of the big 500 or 1,000 ct ones. I also have bottle and jar cap wrenches in the kitchen as well as a good sharp pair of scissors and electric can opener. Also really dislike those cans with the rounded aluminum bottoms as I usually use an old "churchkey" to pierce a a small hole in the bottom (which breaks the vacuum seal so everything comes out nice cleanly), as on those types of cans there is no edge for it to catch on.

    When you open the can, the vacuum seal is broken.  There is no need to do it at the bottom.

    Dana

  • 3Diva3Diva Posts: 11,970
    edited July 2016
    MistyMist said:

    remember when we wanted to look up something, we had to go to a library.  open a drawer of cards with dewey decimal #s.  The era of the dewey decimal.  librarian was a 4 year degree. 

    looking up newspaper articles on the microfiche machine.

    the days of going to blockbuster to rent a movie. rewinding.  late return fees.  


    the lil yellow snap in things to play 45s.  cutting out the back of cereal boxes for a cardboard 45.  

    I recently went back to visit my parents and I hadn't been back in years - and found that the town they live in still has an active Blockbuster. God bless tiny towns in the "heart of America". lol

    Post edited by 3Diva on
  • DanaTADanaTA Posts: 13,333
    MistyMist said:
    kyoto kid said:
    MistyMist said:

    remember when we wanted to look up something, we had to go to a library.  open a drawer of cards with dewey decimal #s.  The era of the dewey decimal.  librarian was a 4 year degree. 

    looking up newspaper articles on the microfiche machine.

    the days of going to blockbuster to rent a movie. rewinding.  late return fees.  


    the lil yellow snap in things to play 45s.  cutting out the back of cereal boxes for a cardboard 45.  

    Telephone numbers with only 4 digits.

    Automobile headlight highbeam switch on the floor beside your left foot.

    78 RPM records.

    Cheap clock radios that started pre-buzzing a minute or so before they actually turned on.

    Oily creams for your hair.

    Separately purchased packs of naked razor blades for shaving.

    Being able to burn your household trash in a barrel in your backyard because it was all wood or paper, no plastic.

    Laundry hanging on a clothesline outdoor.

    Men's pants designs that came half way up their abdomen.

    Lobster Tails bigger than your plate.

    That little triangular vent window in the front that was the only relief you had before air-conditioning was offered in cars.

    The TV repairman.

    Big cans of Charles Chips potato chips delivered to your door.

    The Interstate roads being new?

    "Stuckey's" gift shops in the south.

    15 cent McDonald's burgers?

    The coal truck dumping its load down that slide into your coal bin.

    Toboggans.

    That clock that never worked, in your car dash.

     

    ...arrrrgh...don't get me started...

    ...roller skates with metal wheels that caught every crack in the pavement.

    ...real "penny candy"

    ...when the news was really "news".

    ...when for 50¢ you could go to the cinema, see a double bill Saturday matinee with two cartoons, and popcorn, a soda, and a box of Jujyfruits cost 10¢ each

    ...you had to ask the parents for permission to use the telephone

    ...there were phone booths every few blocks.

    ...the place to hang out after school was the corner grocery or the soda fountain at the druggists.

    ...city bus drivers gave change, wore a real uniform, and the buses (at least where I lived) had padded leather covered seats.

    ...graffiti was actually readable and at times, even made sense.

    ...root beer was made with real sassafras root.

    ...I told you don't get me started...

     

    i miss clotheslines.  no laundry mats for our mommies

    No...instead the laundry got rained on, or if you were less lucky, the birds pooped on it!!!

    Dana

  • DanaTADanaTA Posts: 13,333
    kyoto kid said:
    MistyMist said:
    kyoto kid said:
    MistyMist said:

    remember when we wanted to look up something, we had to go to a library.  open a drawer of cards with dewey decimal #s.  The era of the dewey decimal.  librarian was a 4 year degree. 

    looking up newspaper articles on the microfiche machine.

    the days of going to blockbuster to rent a movie. rewinding.  late return fees.  


    the lil yellow snap in things to play 45s.  cutting out the back of cereal boxes for a cardboard 45.  

    Telephone numbers with only 4 digits.

    Automobile headlight highbeam switch on the floor beside your left foot.

    78 RPM records.

    Cheap clock radios that started pre-buzzing a minute or so before they actually turned on.

    Oily creams for your hair.

    Separately purchased packs of naked razor blades for shaving.

    Being able to burn your household trash in a barrel in your backyard because it was all wood or paper, no plastic.

    Laundry hanging on a clothesline outdoor.

    Men's pants designs that came half way up their abdomen.

    Lobster Tails bigger than your plate.

    That little triangular vent window in the front that was the only relief you had before air-conditioning was offered in cars.

    The TV repairman.

    Big cans of Charles Chips potato chips delivered to your door.

    The Interstate roads being new?

    "Stuckey's" gift shops in the south.

    15 cent McDonald's burgers?

    The coal truck dumping its load down that slide into your coal bin.

    Toboggans.

    That clock that never worked, in your car dash.

     

    ...arrrrgh...don't get me started...

    ...roller skates with metal wheels that caught every crack in the pavement.

    ...real "penny candy"

    ...when the news was really "news".

    ...when for 50¢ you could go to the cinema, see a double bill Saturday matinee with two cartoons, and popcorn, a soda, and a box of Jujyfruits cost 10¢ each

    ...you had to ask the parents for permission to use the telephone

    ...there were phone booths every few blocks.

    ...the place to hang out after school was the corner grocery or the soda fountain at the druggists.

    ...city bus drivers gave change, wore a real uniform, and the buses (at least where I lived) had padded leather covered seats.

    ...graffiti was actually readable and at times, even made sense.

    ...root beer was made with real sassafras root.

    ...I told you don't get me started...

     

    i miss clotheslines.  no laundry mats for our mommies

    ...yeah I remember mum hanging laundry out on nice days. We had a set of three 6' tall wooden posts with 2 x 4s horizontally between them that had hooks from which we ran clotheslines to the back wall of the house. Didn't need fabric softeners or artificial fragrances back then.

    The Washing Machine was an old Speed Queen wringer washer that had to be filled from a hose attached to the utility sink faucet. Before that it was filled from a hand pump next to the sinks that lead from a large in-ground rain barrel behind the house and for hot water washing, water had to be boiled on the stove upstairs and brought down as we didn't have a water heater yet (same had to be done for baths).

    During rainy weather or winter she had to hang it in the basement as we didn't have one of those new fanged dryers yet.

    ...yeah interesting times back then.. 

    I thought you were 62, not 102!  We were on welfare and we had a Maytag washer.  No dryer, though.  And hot running water.  And we lived in a cheap apartment owned by a cheap landlord.

    Dana

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,840
    DanaTA said:
    kyoto kid said:
    McGyver said:
    kyoto kid said:
    McGyver said:

    Complaint...

    Has anyone noticed recently that expiration dates on products are getting harder to find? 

    It used to be that the would appear somewhere on the label, usually in a white rectangle that said "Best By:____" or "Discard After:____", but now some items that used to have them don't or will have them blank and the expiration date will be in some ridiculous location blended into some other coded info like Lot09088664445-008457 042614 M011017371   So I'm supposed to discern from all that numeric rubish that my Vienna sausages expired in 042616... Or is that the plant number?

    The bottle of Steak an Chops marinade I marinated some steaks in has "Use By____" printed on the neck label... But it's blank.... The back label has a poorly registered dot matrix code printed on the label... LN5N002805092 EX0532016 T44356.... So that's EX as in expires... 05... May? 3... 3rd? 2016? Why is May "05" and the third "3" and not "03" or does it expire in May of the year 32016... That's pretty good shelf life, but something is not tracking there... Is it Euro style with date before month...? Well the same question... Why is one "05" and the other just "3"... Really... Okay, so I use it and forget to rinse the bottle for the recycling bin and so just a few minutes ago I rinse it out and notice a laser printed dot matrixish code 15SB 21:34 EXP 08/2014.... The printing is actually tiny pin holes in the surface of the plastic... No color and only visible if the bottle is empty and you get the area wet... And its sideways along the mould seam.  How TF is someone supposed to see that? 

    And yeah, it expired in 2014...

    So I look through the cabinet and I find another bottle of the same stuff and after looking in the same area where the other code was I can with some effort find the expiration date which was printed in the same manner... So I go looking through the pantry finding almost ever other bottle or can either lacking expiration dates or them being presented in a horribly confusing idiotic manner, many of the label still actually having a space for the expiration date, but the date not being printed anywhere near that...

    This is the kind of unnecessary stuff that really annoys me... Why would anyone do that? My guess is it's more convenient to roller or laser print the bottle or can in some assbackwards spot nobody would think to look.... but is that really the responsible, or right thing to do?  I'm sure if you asked the person tasked with deciding if that was a good idea, they would say "Well, if the consumer is in doubt, they should just discard the item and purchase a fresh one... the code is there and if you really have a question you could either send us an email or call our 800 number and we would be happy to help you sort that out"... Knowing full and clear that maybe 1 in 3247 people might send an email... Maybe... If was easy to locate the actual place to send it.

    I hope that everyone who makes a decision to allow a stupidly printed expiration and just blows off the potential consequences to others as a "well, it's their own fault"... I hope they ALL get the most historically epic case of explosives diarrhea, the kind that diarrhea experts are shocked by... I hope they poop themselves inside out and back again... Maybe twice... I hope they have horrible loud chronic noisy wet staccato flatulence of the sort that would frighten away hungry Tyrannosaurus rexs, for months and particularly in public and in meeting. It may seem vindictive... And you know what... it is... And I'm happy I'm vindictive about it, because everyone is always like "ah, what can you do?... Thats what happens"... Until something terrible happens and then everyone is swinging from the rafters like angry orangutans, shouting for change.  Bah...   Complaint over.

     

    ...I feel the same way about packaging designers. I am still convinced they have a mean streak twoards those of us with arthritis. Cirkey a kid can easily open one of those "child safe" a pill bottles while I have to rummage around to find a pliers or Vise Grip. Then there are those "safety seals" which I guess are there to keep the product safe from ever being used.

    I hate those things... when my kids were toddlers I gave them both a bunch of empty "child-proof" bottles and asked them what they looked like that for... they both responded that the stuff inside was poison...or something to that effect, so okay... then they knew that they were not supposed to open those kind of bottles... I then told them I wanted to test the empty bottles to see if they were really made right... both of them figured all of them out fairly quick... they are twins, but one is a bit more mechanically inclined so she was slightly quicker, but none of the bottles was very child-proof... usually now I just grab the lid and twist it like a gorilla, stripping off all the stops and tabs within... it might be hard for someone with arthritis, but I do it for all of you who want to, but can't... that and I'm a fairly destructive person anyway.

    ..for my ibuprofen, I have separate bottle that is easy to open I keep on the night stand which I fill from one of the big 500 or 1,000 ct ones. I also have bottle and jar cap wrenches in the kitchen as well as a good sharp pair of scissors and electric can opener. Also really dislike those cans with the rounded aluminum bottoms as I usually use an old "churchkey" to pierce a a small hole in the bottom (which breaks the vacuum seal so everything comes out nice cleanly), as on those types of cans there is no edge for it to catch on.

    When you open the can, the vacuum seal is broken.  There is no need to do it at the bottom.

    Dana

    ...try to get thick chili, baked beans, tomato paste, or refried beans out of a can cleanly without a lot of scooping and scraping.  Piercing the can bottom is like doing a "beer bong", everything slides out really fast and cleanly because of the sudden change in pressure  Works like a charm every time (except on those rounded bottom cans I mentioned)

    ...yeah I misused the term vacuum.

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