There's Always Another Sale Thread -- Discussions Only Pt 6

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  • CybersoxCybersox Posts: 9,859
    edited August 11

    daveso said:

    price creep. the new release items are constantly going up in price, the sale values seem to be going down. Even  DAZ+ pricing is now hitting $5 for pretty much everything upon release, and for sure higher than that after initial period. I gues I have a choice though, buy or not. 

    Yep.  There are a handful of vendors who are still producing quality items at what I consider reasonable prices, but so many are either 1.)  elevating "list prices", 2.) have switched from full outfits to single items of clothing, breaking what are obviously meant to be complete sets into several products, or 3.) releasing products that look glossy but lack features that used to be standard.... as examples, look at how many newer hair products now have few or no posing moprhs and how many models are dependent on textures to do what used to be done with modeling. It's the spiral that comes with a sales tactic that is focused on constant heavy discounting, I'm afraid.      

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  • XiousDsXiousDs Posts: 567

    XiousDs said:

    So tokens won't drop something under $2.99? I was going to spend $20 to pick up 8 tokens to further drop the price of items in a cart I was looking at getting, but not if they won't drop the price under $2.99. I'll just skip getting stuff from the outlet and also not get the cart I was planning out.

    Outlet stuff wouldn't be affected by tokens with or without a minimum.

    It's 2x token day. I didn't want to discount the outlet with tokens, I use the outlet for buying stuff to get tokens. But if the tokens can't drop something under $2.99, then not worth me buying low tier items from my list to get them.
  • XiousDs said:

    jmucchiello said:

    XiousDs said:

    So tokens won't drop something under $2.99? I was going to spend $20 to pick up 8 tokens to further drop the price of items in a cart I was looking at getting, but not if they won't drop the price under $2.99. I'll just skip getting stuff from the outlet and also not get the cart I was planning out.

    Outlet stuff wouldn't be affected by tokens with or without a minimum.

    It's 2x token day. I didn't want to discount the outlet with tokens, I use the outlet for buying stuff to get tokens. But if the tokens can't drop something under $2.99, then not worth me buying low tier items from my list to get them.

    It's this particular deal that won't allow tokens to drop prices below $2.99. The way most deals here work is that tokens are the only thing that will drop an item below a set minimum. That said, Daz never announces changes ahead of time, so it's possible this is the way it will be from now on. I hope not, because it would lessen the value of tokens further. 

  • I wasn't able to spend much but I did get a couple things with that extra token discount today and my 8 tokens. https://www.daz3d.com/aeriael-harpy-for-genesis-9. All things harpy - arm wings with several textures, hand/foot talons, usable on any G9 character - plus it comes with a nice character. (It doesn't have back wings or an extra skin but I have those if I want that look.) Full price would have been $26, but I got Aeriael and https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-lala-mage-outfit-for-genesis-9 for $11 including tax.

    The mage outfit was part of the recent QG That Never Was, because the prices wouldn't drop. I paid about what I think QG price would have been, so I am Officially Less Annoyed at that super-glitch. (FYI, Lala Mage is possibly the most modest female magic-user outfit ever sold here. It looks like a male wizard's outfit versus Yet More Skimpwear, and I believe even has fits for G9 male/masc characters.)

  • AsuCafeAsuCafe Posts: 468

    They almost took all of FG's merchandise,Crazy price, 97% off,  but it only lasted half an hour.

  • davesodaveso Posts: 8,227

    Stress saving comment. If I dont buy anything, I save money plus don't need to worry about store issues. 
    Todays helpful post. 

  • TorquinoxTorquinox Posts: 4,812

    miladyderyni_173d399f47 said:

    I wasn't able to spend much but I did get a couple things with that extra token discount today and my 8 tokens. https://www.daz3d.com/aeriael-harpy-for-genesis-9. All things harpy - arm wings with several textures, hand/foot talons, usable on any G9 character - plus it comes with a nice character. (It doesn't have back wings or an extra skin but I have those if I want that look.) Full price would have been $26, but I got Aeriael and https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-lala-mage-outfit-for-genesis-9 for $11 including tax.

    The mage outfit was part of the recent QG That Never Was, because the prices wouldn't drop. I paid about what I think QG price would have been, so I am Officially Less Annoyed at that super-glitch. (FYI, Lala Mage is possibly the most modest female magic-user outfit ever sold here. It looks like a male wizard's outfit versus Yet More Skimpwear, and I believe even has fits for G9 male/masc characters.)

    The mage outfit looks good. I put it on my WL. I came up with  https://www.daz3d.com/ava-9-hd-add-on-bundle for $5.99 last October. That was a good deal! I do like the feather texture options on the Rawart harpy, so maybe sometime...

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 42,368
    edited August 12

    ...yeah, most of the vehicles were 80% off, and I thought, "glitch"?   Sure enough as this morning they were more expensive so I dumped what was already in the cart.

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  • jmucchiellojmucchiello Posts: 1,962

    $12 is hard to beat for a new figure bundle + add-on bundle. But the cyberpunk stuff is so... not for me.

  • theflarftheflarf Posts: 216

    I'm not sure how many of the 'Municipal' new releases really fit that tag, feels like DAZ just pick a random word regardless of the releases or the offer

    None take my fancy enough as usual wiht such a small selection of require buy ins so I'll ignore the whole thing. 

     

  • rokkrrokkr Posts: 378

    miladyderyni_173d399f47 said:

    XiousDs said:

    jmucchiello said:

    XiousDs said:

    So tokens won't drop something under $2.99? I was going to spend $20 to pick up 8 tokens to further drop the price of items in a cart I was looking at getting, but not if they won't drop the price under $2.99. I'll just skip getting stuff from the outlet and also not get the cart I was planning out.

    Outlet stuff wouldn't be affected by tokens with or without a minimum.

    It's 2x token day. I didn't want to discount the outlet with tokens, I use the outlet for buying stuff to get tokens. But if the tokens can't drop something under $2.99, then not worth me buying low tier items from my list to get them.

    It's this particular deal that won't allow tokens to drop prices below $2.99. The way most deals here work is that tokens are the only thing that will drop an item below a set minimum. That said, Daz never announces changes ahead of time, so it's possible this is the way it will be from now on. I hope not, because it would lessen the value of tokens further. 

    Yeah... But kinda dirty trick... Apparently a bigger discount, but -- you know, too lazy to do the math --, perhaps, in the older model, it could get lower than 2.99... Anyway, I hope this doesn't become a trend; otherwise, it'll be a bummer...

     

  • rokkrrokkr Posts: 378

    rokkr said:

    miladyderyni_173d399f47 said:

    XiousDs said:

    jmucchiello said:

    XiousDs said:

    So tokens won't drop something under $2.99? I was going to spend $20 to pick up 8 tokens to further drop the price of items in a cart I was looking at getting, but not if they won't drop the price under $2.99. I'll just skip getting stuff from the outlet and also not get the cart I was planning out.

    Outlet stuff wouldn't be affected by tokens with or without a minimum.

    It's 2x token day. I didn't want to discount the outlet with tokens, I use the outlet for buying stuff to get tokens. But if the tokens can't drop something under $2.99, then not worth me buying low tier items from my list to get them.

    It's this particular deal that won't allow tokens to drop prices below $2.99. The way most deals here work is that tokens are the only thing that will drop an item below a set minimum. That said, Daz never announces changes ahead of time, so it's possible this is the way it will be from now on. I hope not, because it would lessen the value of tokens further. 

    Yeah... But kinda dirty trick... Apparently a bigger discount, but -- you know, too lazy to do the math --, perhaps, in the older model, it could get lower than 2.99... Anyway, I hope this doesn't become a trend; otherwise, it'll be a bummer...

    Since my curiosity couldn't let it go, if you're Premier, add an Aelia New Release, and add 8 tokens, everything below $24.35 (non-Daz originals) would have a better discount in the default Token model (max 30%, but not counted for floor price calculation purposes).

     

  • 3DSaga3DSaga Posts: 884

    I don't remember seeing a deal like what they're offering for Aelia. As mentioned earlier, $12.00 (Premier) for a newly introduced character and add-on bundle is a really good deal. I'm glad to see these DAZ+ and Premier deals. 

  • XiousDsXiousDs Posts: 567
    3DSaga said:

    I don't remember seeing a deal like what they're offering for Aelia. As mentioned earlier, $12.00 (Premier) for a newly introduced character and add-on bundle is a really good deal. I'm glad to see these DAZ+ and Premier deals. 

    If someone wants, they can use their premier character coupon to get the HD character bundle for free and the add on for $6.
  • 3DSaga3DSaga Posts: 884

    I considered using my Premier character coupon that way, but decided to save it in the event another character is introduced later this month. 

  • TorquinoxTorquinox Posts: 4,812

    There is another signal at work with this sale. Daz is also telling us brand new character bundles are only worth $6 for premier members. And I recently got https://www.daz3d.com/lyna-9-hd-character-bundle for $2.50 without any membership. I mentally count it as $3.50 as I feel my buy in item was rather overpriced and would not have touched it on its own for the price. The point is, it's nice to get the deal but it also sort of debases the value of what you bought. Maybe I'm the only one thinking about it that way.

  • XiousDsXiousDs Posts: 567
    Torquinox said:

    There is another signal at work with this sale. Daz is also telling us brand new character bundles are only worth $6 for premier members. And I recently got https://www.daz3d.com/lyna-9-hd-character-bundle for $2.50 without any membership. I mentally count it as $3.50 as I feel my buy in item was rather overpriced and would not have touched it on its own for the price. The point is, it's nice to get the deal but it also sort of debases the value of what you bought. Maybe I'm the only one thinking about it that way.

    I am not buying the new character at $6 because I have a lot of characters so when I buy a new character bundle or addon bundle, it needs to be 95% off or more. 93% off is tempting, but I don't NEED it right now so I will wait for 95% off. If I wasn't super busy on other stuff right now I might reconsider because I love the cyberpunk shape and would want to mess with it, but I don't have time currently to mess with it anyways. So long way to say, I agree that I value each daz original bundle around $2.50-$3.50 now. In the past when they were much bigger bundles I waited for around $5-$10.
  • TorquinoxTorquinox Posts: 4,812

    I was mistaken in one point: I did still have D+ membership when that deal popped up.

    @XiousDs I actually agree with your reasoning, especially for DO items. But I still think it creates value perception problems that I can't really solve except to expect such deals as a purchase condition.

  • davesodaveso Posts: 8,227

    well, I have 3 more chances at DAZ+, hoping for something, and 2 more possiblilities for QG, if they are on  time. A toss up on that. Today DAZ+ was another female character. Nothing wrong with her but I have so many that I really dont need another unless super special. The clown horror shells do not hit me as horror anything, so a pass on them. No incentive to renew DAZ+ as of now. 

  • 3DSaga3DSaga Posts: 884

    I wouldn't be too concerned about the lack of deals for the next few weeks. I'm sure there's a huge mega sale coming soon. 

  • Charlie JudgeCharlie Judge Posts: 13,621

    3DSaga said:

    I wouldn't be too concerned about the lack of deals for the next few weeks. I'm sure there's a huge mega sale coming soon. 

    Yes, the PA sale is usually in September.

  • SilverGirlSilverGirl Posts: 3,847

    Today looks like it has the potential for some good stacking, especially if you have tokens to take advantage of the higher redemption rate.

    My stupid headache-besieged brain took one look at the whole thing, lol-sobbed, and noped out, but maybe the rest of you fine folk will have some luck. :)

  • davesodaveso Posts: 8,227

    I'm only at 2 tokens so not much help. Total off is at 84%. That seems pretty good, but the prices are still edging up a bit. My cutoff for sales used to be 60%,then 70, then 80, but now 90 seems to be the cut for me. Only problem is now a minimum is slapped in quite often, so not possible to buy those less than a buck products, and many time the minimum is 2.99. 

    An aside, its been mentioned quite a lot that rendo pricing is higher than here, but one thing they do is new releases overall are at 50% off. They have 50% off deals a lot, plus there is usually a weekly coupon 15,20,25, and sometimes 30% off in addition. 

    All pricing across the board is going up though, don;t matter much where you shop. 

  • AsuCafeAsuCafe Posts: 468

    daveso said:

    I'm only at 2 tokens so not much help. Total off is at 84%. That seems pretty good, but the prices are still edging up a bit. My cutoff for sales used to be 60%,then 70, then 80, but now 90 seems to be the cut for me. Only problem is now a minimum is slapped in quite often, so not possible to buy those less than a buck products, and many time the minimum is 2.99. 

    An aside, its been mentioned quite a lot that rendo pricing is higher than here, but one thing they do is new releases overall are at 50% off. They have 50% off deals a lot, plus there is usually a weekly coupon 15,20,25, and sometimes 30% off in addition. 

    All pricing across the board is going up though, don;t matter much where you shop. 

    If you have eight tokens, you can get a 92% off today, which is a discount that's usually only seen at Christmas, but it seems quite common this year.

    It's very difficult to get more than 70% off at "the other store." You need to happen to have a discount coupon, the items you want to buy to be on sale, and the total price of those items to reach the minimum amount required to use the discount coupon. Furthermore, many artists simply do not allow the use of discount coupons.

    I have a feeling my post is going to be deleted...

  • jmucchiellojmucchiello Posts: 1,962

    AsuCafe said:

    If you have eight tokens, you can get a 92% off today, which is a discount that's usually only seen at Christmas, but it seems quite common this year.

    But you can only get that on something with a list price of $37.50 of higher because there's still a $2.99 floor. A $20 list price will only be 85% at $2.99, for example.

  • garrett_3dgarrett_3d Posts: 805

    AsuCafe said:

    If you have eight tokens, you can get a 92% off today, which is a discount that's usually only seen at Christmas, but it seems quite common this year.

    Except that the final price after 92% you see today is still more expensive than the 95% we saw last Christmas..... 

  • Ron KnightsRon Knights Posts: 2,736

    I don't like things too complicated. I don't want to work to save money. I keep my personal life and relationships simple.

    I don't bother with complicated math. I don't want to buy something I don't want just to save money on something else.

    I don't find new stuff all that appealing. So stop trying to force me into buying new stuff.

    The "Wish list" sales have quite often only included selected items. Maybe we had one or two sales where everything was on sale.

    I'm very aware that my computer system has been deprecated. My old video card has trouble working with stuff already.

    I've actually decided to concentrate more on older content that is less demanding on the system. That's why I have an older version of DAZ Studio installed along with DAZ Studio 6.

    Now I just need to remember how to protect "4.2" so that DIM doesn't rob me of that old rendering system. (Sorry my mind is a bit overtaxed today. So I forgot the name.)

    In the meantime, I've been sharing my DAZ-Created comics and poems and stories with my friends. They love them.

    Most of my friends don't have computers or do the Internet. So I print out my stuff.

    I've had two printers die recently, So I should save my money to replace the printers. I want a Brother Color laser printer.

  • davesodaveso Posts: 8,227

    garrett_3d said:

    AsuCafe said:

    If you have eight tokens, you can get a 92% off today, which is a discount that's usually only seen at Christmas, but it seems quite common this year.

    Except that the final price after 92% you see today is still more expensive than the 95% we saw last Christmas..... 

    there it is. Yeah, I keep looking at the end result going, it stills seems high. But right there is the reason. The overall pricing has gone up quite a bit since then.  

  • CybersoxCybersox Posts: 9,859
    edited August 16

    daveso said:

    garrett_3d said:

    AsuCafe said:

    If you have eight tokens, you can get a 92% off today, which is a discount that's usually only seen at Christmas, but it seems quite common this year.

    Except that the final price after 92% you see today is still more expensive than the 95% we saw last Christmas..... 

    there it is. Yeah, I keep looking at the end result going, it stills seems high. But right there is the reason. The overall pricing has gone up quite a bit since then.  

    And will continue to go up.  The price of everything has gone up.  My grocery bill has shot up.  My insurance has shot up.  The cost of new hard drives and other computer peripherals are getting ridiculous.  That said, the price of products at DAZ do seem to have gone up even more disproportionately, though perhaps it's just because looking at a new digital outfit and realizing that it often costs more to buy a digital version than it does to buy the equivalent in a real life a brick and mortar the storet makes one start to double think whether one really needs anymore of this stuff.     

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  • AsuCafeAsuCafe Posts: 468
    edited August 16

    Yes, the $2.99 ​​rule is particularly strange lately,many mid-priced items were not even 90% off after the discount, so I had to give up on buying them, so I only buy the most expensive and lowest priced items. I won't buy anything unless the discount isn't 92% off, unless I really like the item. Prices have indeed increased, and some quality has even decreased.

    I bought a lot of Chungdan products this time, some even from 2018, for less than $1.50, but the quality far surpasses many newer products, and is even among the finest in their category. I can't believe I'm only realizing this now!

    Based on my extensive purchasing experience, I have a benchmark in mind regarding the quality and price of a piece of clothing or shoes. It's not just about the percentage discount. I'm happy to pay a little more for high-quality products from reputable artists. 

    For example, the only new item I added to my wishlist today is the "Star Jasmine Bundle." I have to buy one new item today to trigger the discount. I wouldn't normally buy plants at this price, but considering the really good quality and the many free plants I've gotten from MartinJFrost, I didn't hesitate to put it in my cart.

    There's also a "token-savings" promotion. I selected five items that were 90% off after the discount. One item was less than 90% off, but that was its first time on sale, and with another new item of the day, the overall discount was less than 90%. But I really love these five items, so here's my money!

    In terms of total price, there is a significant difference between buying with cash and buying with a 20% off gift card, but I often don't buy enough gift cards...

    To be honest, I'm not optimistic about the market outlook. Prices are indeed getting more and more expensive (while the quality is mostly getting worse), so I didn't renew my membership when it expired. This will significantly reduce the willingness to buy, as there are no membership discounts and it is difficult to accumulate discount tokens.

    Oh, and I also lost my membership discount coupon for this month. I canceled my membership the day before it expired, and a few minutes later I wanted to use the 10 yuan discount coupon but couldn't... This makes me even less willing to renew my contract.

    The biggest value of the membership is the discount, but I can't shop every month anymore. I've bought enough, and my hard drive is already full—expensive hard drives... I have to buy hard drives before I can buy new items, but I'd rather give money to artists than to those hard drive bloodsuckers. It's a vicious cycle, so I have to stop.

     

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