There's Always Another Sale Thread -- Discussions Only Pt 5

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  • TorquinoxTorquinox Posts: 4,558

    Blando Calrissian said:

    Now that's bizzarre! Here's hoping that there's another (better, saner) explanation, because that's a world I don't want to live in.

    PayPal is like that. I've heard similar stories in other places. 

  • SilverGirlSilverGirl Posts: 3,466

    flash sale tile up

  • Ainm said:

    I checked out a pretty good cart yesterday, particularly considering I don't have a membership at the moment. The price floors were removed from the sale and I was getting 94% off wishlisted items with 5 tokens, so I threw in a gift card too. Then PayPal marked it for manual review before cancelling it. No reason given, but looking through the names of the products in my cart, I'm going to assume it was the item titled "High School Bathroom". My cart was unfortunately emptied by checking out - even though it was never marked as complete - and I couldn't face tracking down the 25 items again to rebuild it.

    Oh well - there's always another sale.

    PayPal is infamous here for that. A few years back, there was a Havana Hair that had to be taken out of the store temporarily to be renamed because PayPal seemed to think it violated US trade restrictions with Cuba. PayPal has also blocked some Egyptian themed items, notably a set called something  like Ancient Egypt Treasures, possibly to prevent artifact trafficking. Come on! I know some of us complain about high Daz prices but I think even the cheapest ancient Egyptian artifacts cost more than a full price Daz bundle. 

  • LeanaLeana Posts: 13,031

    miladyderyni_173d399f47 said:

    Ainm said:

    I checked out a pretty good cart yesterday, particularly considering I don't have a membership at the moment. The price floors were removed from the sale and I was getting 94% off wishlisted items with 5 tokens, so I threw in a gift card too. Then PayPal marked it for manual review before cancelling it. No reason given, but looking through the names of the products in my cart, I'm going to assume it was the item titled "High School Bathroom". My cart was unfortunately emptied by checking out - even though it was never marked as complete - and I couldn't face tracking down the 25 items again to rebuild it.

    Oh well - there's always another sale.

    PayPal is infamous here for that. A few years back, there was a Havana Hair that had to be taken out of the store temporarily to be renamed because PayPal seemed to think it violated US trade restrictions with Cuba. PayPal has also blocked some Egyptian themed items, notably a set called something  like Ancient Egypt Treasures, possibly to prevent artifact trafficking. Come on! I know some of us complain about high Daz prices but I think even the cheapest ancient Egyptian artifacts cost more than a full price Daz bundle. 

    Yes, they've been doing that for years. I remember PayPal blocking purchases for a set of shoes for V4 because it included "Cuban shoes" 

  • SilverGirlSilverGirl Posts: 3,466

    Wow, all these paypal issues makes me glad I use the store credit method.

  • zombietaggerungzombietaggerung Posts: 3,893
    edited February 3

    SilverGirl said:

    Wow, all these paypal issues makes me glad I use the store credit method.

    It's only an issue if you are buying things with a sus sounding names. I use paypal almost exclusively, and if i think something might get flagged by them I put it in my cart to check the total price, clear cart and then buy a giftcard for that exact amount and buy the thing. It's not that hard. 

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  • SilverGirlSilverGirl Posts: 3,466

    zombietaggerung said:

    SilverGirl said:

    Wow, all these paypal issues makes me glad I use the store credit method.

    It's only an issue if you are buying things with a sus sounding names. I use paypal almost exclusively, and if i think something might get flagged by them I put it in my cart to check the total price, clear cart and then buy a giftcard for that exact amount and buy the thing. It's not that hard. 

    Extra steps + losing out on GC discounts = not at all appealing to me, but to each their own. 

  • ArtAngelArtAngel Posts: 2,085

    SilverGirl said:

    zombietaggerung said:

    SilverGirl said:

    Wow, all these paypal issues makes me glad I use the store credit method.

    It's only an issue if you are buying things with a sus sounding names. I use paypal almost exclusively, and if i think something might get flagged by them I put it in my cart to check the total price, clear cart and then buy a giftcard for that exact amount and buy the thing. It's not that hard. 

    Extra steps + losing out on GC discounts = not at all appealing to me, but to each their own. 

    yes  +++this

  • 3DSaga3DSaga Posts: 766

    I've been using PayPal for longer than I want to admit, and I've never had a transaction denied.  I suppose there could always be a first time. It's quite disappointing to hear of this type of mindless policy on their part. 

  • Robert FreiseRobert Freise Posts: 4,636

    3DSaga said:

    I've been using PayPal for longer than I want to admit, and I've never had a transaction denied.  I suppose there could always be a first time. It's quite disappointing to hear of this type of mindless policy on their part. 

    Same here 

  • SilverGirl said:

    zombietaggerung said:

    SilverGirl said:

    Wow, all these paypal issues makes me glad I use the store credit method.

    It's only an issue if you are buying things with a sus sounding names. I use paypal almost exclusively, and if i think something might get flagged by them I put it in my cart to check the total price, clear cart and then buy a giftcard for that exact amount and buy the thing. It's not that hard. 

    Extra steps + losing out on GC discounts = not at all appealing to me, but to each their own. 

    Perhaps because I rarely buy gift cards with discounts, because they far too often have buy-in requirements of things I have zero desire for or interest in. So the "discount" on a gift card is a non-issue for me. But as you said: To each their own. 

  • Cam FoxCam Fox Posts: 390

    I never knew that about PayPal, and that's a good idea using gift card balance as a workaround. (I've probably bought such items on store credit just by luck so far.)

    Was in a work meeting until 3 minutes before Daz Midnight so I missed the MY-FLASH coupon deal (stacking 60% off non-new items in cart), it was pulling the one item I tested into the mid 90% zone with tokens applied. Oh well - there's always another sale. :)

  • tsroemitsroemi Posts: 3,536

    I'm seeing less and less reason to shop here, sadly. What is this joke 'freebie' today? It's not free in the first place cause it needs a buy in, and the selection is from, what, 1920? Just don't do it if you don't feel it, you know.

  • Singular3DSingular3D Posts: 638

    tsroemi said:

    I'm seeing less and less reason to shop here, sadly. What is this joke 'freebie' today? It's not free in the first place cause it needs a buy in, and the selection is from, what, 1920? Just don't do it if you don't feel it, you know.

    I have to agree here. This potential free stuff is very ancient!  

  • tsroemi said:

    I'm seeing less and less reason to shop here, sadly. What is this joke 'freebie' today? It's not free in the first place cause it needs a buy in, and the selection is from, what, 1920? Just don't do it if you don't feel it, you know.

    That was pretty much what I was thinking too... 

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 42,159
    edited February 3

    ...yeah pretty "meh" sale again.  Like I'm going to drop 13 - 19$ on a new release I have little interest in or use for to get a few old items I've passed on years ago.

    What happened to the Daz I remember?

    Looks like it was a good decision to not renew my D+ membership for this month

    Hopefully MM will be better.

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  • jmucchiellojmucchiello Posts: 1,021

    zombietaggerung said:

    SilverGirl said:

    zombietaggerung said:

    SilverGirl said:

    Wow, all these paypal issues makes me glad I use the store credit method.

    I It's only an issue if you are buying things with a sus sounding names. I use paypal almost exclusively, and if i think something might get flagged by them I put it in my cart to check the total price, clear cart and then buy a giftcard for that exact amount and buy the thing. It's not that hard. 

    Extra steps + losing out on GC discounts = not at all appealing to me, but to each their own. 

    Perhaps because I rarely buy gift cards with discounts, because they far too often have buy-in requirements of things I have zero desire for or interest in. So the "discount" on a gift card is a non-issue for me. But as you said: To each their own. 

     I never understand this. You can buy a gift card $100 = $100. Simple.

    There are sales, you can buy a $10 item and get a 20% discount. $100 card = $80 + $10.

    Even if you never use the $10 item, the gift card is still worth $100 and you paid less than $100. Why is this bad? If you have zero interest in the item, just don't download it.

  • NathNath Posts: 2,999

    jmucchiello said:

    zombietaggerung said:

    SilverGirl said:

    zombietaggerung said:

    SilverGirl said:

    Wow, all these paypal issues makes me glad I use the store credit method.

    I It's only an issue if you are buying things with a sus sounding names. I use paypal almost exclusively, and if i think something might get flagged by them I put it in my cart to check the total price, clear cart and then buy a giftcard for that exact amount and buy the thing. It's not that hard. 

    Extra steps + losing out on GC discounts = not at all appealing to me, but to each their own. 

    Perhaps because I rarely buy gift cards with discounts, because they far too often have buy-in requirements of things I have zero desire for or interest in. So the "discount" on a gift card is a non-issue for me. But as you said: To each their own. 

     I never understand this. You can buy a gift card $100 = $100. Simple.

    There are sales, you can buy a $10 item and get a 20% discount. $100 card = $80 + $10.

    Even if you never use the $10 item, the gift card is still worth $100 and you paid less than $100. Why is this bad? If you have zero interest in the item, just don't download it.

    In general, you're right, but when the buy-in is higher, you may end up paying more than $100. And yes, if you have the budget for it you can solve that by getting a larger gift card.

    So, if the buy-in is 3 of that day's items and they all cost a minimum of $12 at launch price, you pay $36 extra for a $20 advantage off $100. At 20% off you'd have to buy a $180 gift card to break even with your $36 buy-in. 

    Not everybody has the monthly budget for it, even if the buy-in items are all things you like.

  • memcneil70memcneil70 Posts: 5,707

     

    Nath said:

    jmucchiello said:

    zombietaggerung said:

    SilverGirl said:

    zombietaggerung said:

    SilverGirl said:

    Wow, all these paypal issues makes me glad I use the store credit method.

    I It's only an issue if you are buying things with a sus sounding names. I use paypal almost exclusively, and if i think something might get flagged by them I put it in my cart to check the total price, clear cart and then buy a giftcard for that exact amount and buy the thing. It's not that hard. 

    Extra steps + losing out on GC discounts = not at all appealing to me, but to each their own. 

    Perhaps because I rarely buy gift cards with discounts, because they far too often have buy-in requirements of things I have zero desire for or interest in. So the "discount" on a gift card is a non-issue for me. But as you said: To each their own. 

     I never understand this. You can buy a gift card $100 = $100. Simple.

    There are sales, you can buy a $10 item and get a 20% discount. $100 card = $80 + $10.

    Even if you never use the $10 item, the gift card is still worth $100 and you paid less than $100. Why is this bad? If you have zero interest in the item, just don't download it.

    In general, you're right, but when the buy-in is higher, you may end up paying more than $100. And yes, if you have the budget for it you can solve that by getting a larger gift card.

    So, if the buy-in is 3 of that day's items and they all cost a minimum of $12 at launch price, you pay $36 extra for a $20 advantage off $100. At 20% off you'd have to buy a $180 gift card to break even with your $36 buy-in. 

    Not everybody has the monthly budget for it, even if the buy-in items are all things you like.

    How it worked out for me on 1 Feb where it was buy 3 on the new page, get 20% off a gift card, I had over the prior days wishlisted a few items that showed up with the new items. So I put two of those, and another that had been marginal, not wishlisted, so they came to $26.02 and I added a $500.00 gift card that cost me $400.00. That was added to my existing store credit. That may seem expensive, but I have found that when I don't have a credit balance, I may run up my credit card too high. The past three months of doing this (thanks to DAZ helping with GC sales at the first of the month) I have kept my credit card bill down.

    I am also more discerning in how I use the credit. I look at the items offered: Do I have a use, a love, or a need? Is it a part of a series or set? Or from a beloved PA whom I relish their quality and products. 

    It is a bit tough with items taking six months before they hit the sales offers now when a new item is released by a PA. That bites. Unless there is a radical sale going on. But I also wishlist just in case.

  • jmucchiellojmucchiello Posts: 1,021

    Nath said:

    In general, you're right, but when the buy-in is higher, you may end up paying more than $100. And yes, if you have the budget for it you can solve that by getting a larger gift card.

    So, if the buy-in is 3 of that day's items and they all cost a minimum of $12 at launch price, you pay $36 extra for a $20 advantage off $100. At 20% off you'd have to buy a $180 gift card to break even with your $36 buy-in. 

    Not everybody has the monthly budget for it, even if the buy-in items are all things you like.

    I've never had this happen. Now, I am Premiere and I always seem to have tokens. And in my example, I said 20% off. The 5% off gift card sales probably never work out well if there's an additional buy in.But what I was reacting to was "I just don't bother". Taking 5 minutes to figure out if you can save a few bucks is a bother? That's the attitude I was talking about.

     

  • CybersoxCybersox Posts: 9,629

    memcneil70 said:

     

     

    It is a bit tough with items taking six months before they hit the sales offers now when a new item is released by a PA. That bites. Unless there is a radical sale going on. But I also wishlist just in case.

     Actually, I was finding that a lot of new items are hitting what I now consider the medium tier of discount levels (70-80% off after tokens) within just a few weeks if you just put them in your wishlist and waited for a wishlist promotion, but all of these recent "storewide in DAZ's store staff's minds only" wishlist sales of late have been bypassed some of that, but a lot of stuff is still slipping through.  The thing is, between the steady upwards creep of the "regular" price of new items and devaluation of bundles, even a 70% discount is now leaving a lot of the new products coming into the store feeling overpriced.  I mean, 70% off barely even feels like a sale anymore when a single medium quality outfit that has an obviously missing item like the gun from a welded on, unremovable, holster, with said gun being split off into a seprate package with it's own $18.99 price tag, taking the "regular" price of that outfit from $24.99 up to a combined price of $43.98, so even after a 70% discount the price will still be nearly $14.  That's barely a scratch off what that same outfit would have sold for "new" in the store a year ago, with the gun included, after just the regular 30% off new item discount.  I assume that someone out there is really payng those prices, but when you have a digital product that costs almost nothing to sell, it seems like focusing on the few who will pay increasingly high prices rather than trying to bring in more customers and broaden the overall base is putting way too many eggs in a smaler basket.

  • CybersoxCybersox Posts: 9,629
    edited February 3

    Singular3D said:

    tsroemi said:

    I'm seeing less and less reason to shop here, sadly. What is this joke 'freebie' today? It's not free in the first place cause it needs a buy in, and the selection is from, what, 1920? Just don't do it if you don't feel it, you know.

    I have to agree here. This potential free stuff is very ancient!  

    Well, there are two made for G8 items in the overall package, and according to recent DAZ store logic that's a "current" item... even if G9 and G8.1 are now the only two gens with quick access links on the shop masthead.  Never mind that thery're still from 2019 and that one of them is a pose set for those nightmarish G8 toddlers and thus unlikely to work well with any other figure.

    But yeah, it's a pretty moldy and probably spider-infested group of items.  

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  • zombietaggerungzombietaggerung Posts: 3,893
    edited February 3

    Nath said:

    jmucchiello said:

    zombietaggerung said:

    SilverGirl said:

    zombietaggerung said:

    SilverGirl said:

    Wow, all these paypal issues makes me glad I use the store credit method.

    I It's only an issue if you are buying things with a sus sounding names. I use paypal almost exclusively, and if i think something might get flagged by them I put it in my cart to check the total price, clear cart and then buy a giftcard for that exact amount and buy the thing. It's not that hard. 

    Extra steps + losing out on GC discounts = not at all appealing to me, but to each their own. 

    Perhaps because I rarely buy gift cards with discounts, because they far too often have buy-in requirements of things I have zero desire for or interest in. So the "discount" on a gift card is a non-issue for me. But as you said: To each their own. 

     I never understand this. You can buy a gift card $100 = $100. Simple.

    There are sales, you can buy a $10 item and get a 20% discount. $100 card = $80 + $10.

    Even if you never use the $10 item, the gift card is still worth $100 and you paid less than $100. Why is this bad? If you have zero interest in the item, just don't download it.

    In general, you're right, but when the buy-in is higher, you may end up paying more than $100. And yes, if you have the budget for it you can solve that by getting a larger gift card.

    So, if the buy-in is 3 of that day's items and they all cost a minimum of $12 at launch price, you pay $36 extra for a $20 advantage off $100. At 20% off you'd have to buy a $180 gift card to break even with your $36 buy-in. 

    Not everybody has the monthly budget for it, even if the buy-in items are all things you like.

    This is exactly right. I don't have the budget to commit hundreds of dollars to Daz. I primarly render male characters, and I haven't fully jumped into G9, mainly because my laptop is too old to be able to run anything higher than 4.15 without dropping to CPU. So when there is a giftcard sale I will look and see if it's a flat percentage off, and then I will buy one. But if there is a buy-in and all the options are ladies underpants, dresses and female characters, it's a waste of money for me to buy something that will just sit on my external HDD taking up valuble storage space and never get used. It's just not worth it to me. And I cannot rationalize paying my hard earned money for something I don't want and will never use.

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  • CybersoxCybersox Posts: 9,629

    zombietaggerung said:

    Nath said:

    jmucchiello said:

    zombietaggerung said:

    SilverGirl said:

    zombietaggerung said:

    SilverGirl said:

    Wow, all these paypal issues makes me glad I use the store credit method.

    I It's only an issue if you are buying things with a sus sounding names. I use paypal almost exclusively, and if i think something might get flagged by them I put it in my cart to check the total price, clear cart and then buy a giftcard for that exact amount and buy the thing. It's not that hard. 

    Extra steps + losing out on GC discounts = not at all appealing to me, but to each their own. 

    Perhaps because I rarely buy gift cards with discounts, because they far too often have buy-in requirements of things I have zero desire for or interest in. So the "discount" on a gift card is a non-issue for me. But as you said: To each their own. 

     I never understand this. You can buy a gift card $100 = $100. Simple.

    There are sales, you can buy a $10 item and get a 20% discount. $100 card = $80 + $10.

    Even if you never use the $10 item, the gift card is still worth $100 and you paid less than $100. Why is this bad? If you have zero interest in the item, just don't download it.

    In general, you're right, but when the buy-in is higher, you may end up paying more than $100. And yes, if you have the budget for it you can solve that by getting a larger gift card.

    So, if the buy-in is 3 of that day's items and they all cost a minimum of $12 at launch price, you pay $36 extra for a $20 advantage off $100. At 20% off you'd have to buy a $180 gift card to break even with your $36 buy-in. 

    Not everybody has the monthly budget for it, even if the buy-in items are all things you like.

    This is exactly right. I don't have the budget to commit hundreds of dollars to Daz. I primarly render male characters, and I haven't fully jumped into G9, mainly because my laptop is too old to be able to run anything higher than 4.15 without dropping to CPU. So when there is a giftcard sale I will look and see if it's a flat percentage off, and then I will buy one. But if there is a buy-in and all the oprions are ladies underpants, dresses and female characters, it's a waste of money for me to buy something that will just sit on my external HDD taking up valuble storage space and never get used. It's just not worth it to me. And I cannot rationalize paying my hard earned money for something I don't want and will never use.

    Yeah, somewhere along the way DAZ marketing seems to have forgotten that a GC's primary purpose is to get customers to commit a sum of money now for future spending at DAZ, with the lure being a reasonable discount on that product.  Tying the requirement of the purchase of a big buy-in in order to get just a small discount rather nullifies much of that the advantage, which ultimately reduces the GC's main appeal... especially with the prices of products continuing to escalate.    

  • AinmAinm Posts: 764

    Huh - my blocked PayPal purchase has now gone through. 2 days after the sale ended. All the products that were in my cart are now in my account. That was a nice surprise to log onto smiley

    The bad news is that I now have store credit... devil

  • XelloszXellosz Posts: 855

    Constant cloudfire errors on the forum. Any clue why?

     

    ps:

    A month ago reported bug still exists, and it is ruining the buyer experience. (token + daz original coupon) They still haven't found a solution for it. XD

     

     

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 42,159
    edited February 4

    ...just looked at the "free" item list and according to Daz Deals (clicking "Show Only Owned" box) I already have 88 of the items (which adda a 4th page to the selection) the newest being for G3. Yeah not even worth the 9.09 USD for the Lapis Pyrite Earrings (the lowest priced "Happy" New Release).

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  • Cam FoxCam Fox Posts: 390

    Xellosz said:

    Constant cloudfire errors on the forum. Any clue why?

    I notice they spike around Daz Midnight when the sales turn over. Maybe the forum server runs an expensive midnight job that temporarily overwhelms the cpu. (speculating)

    Cybersox said:

    Yeah, somewhere along the way DAZ marketing seems to have forgotten that a GC's primary purpose is to get customers to commit a sum of money now for future spending at DAZ, with the lure being a reasonable discount on that product.  Tying the requirement of the purchase of a big buy-in in order to get just a small discount rather nullifies much of that the advantage, which ultimately reduces the GC's main appeal... especially with the prices of products continuing to escalate.    

    I don't think they forgot, just maybe not all giftcard sales have that purpose in mind - they run these giftcard sales with expensive buy ins often enough. Some subset of customers won't consider or mind that the buy ins negate the gift card savings, and others will commit larger sums ($500, etc) to overcome the cut from buy-ins. Probably incentivizes the Debut PA's if they can get a boost in dollars earned on launch day, and it's gotta be useful intel for Daz on how spendy their shoppers are feeling.

    Any New Release over $1 includes the new Enterables Daz+ item. With Premier + 8 tokens that makes the buy-in $2.07 for 19% off a gift card.

    Plus that's also the buy in for the HAPPY-HAPPY coupon to pick one of those old M3/V3 items if one felt the need.

    I'd probably bite if I had budget, but it's not an offer that would make me *make* budget, hehe. :P

  • SnowSnow Posts: 95

    I thought it meant to say: Get 1 for free with code HOP-TO-IT and 3 or more with "Hoppy" New Release, at least that's the way it used to be right?

    Anyway, since I rarely create in 3D anymore (but hopefully will again someday) I'm still very grateful for all the freebies offered in the past, especially the bi (tri?) weekly freebies which I even forget to check now and then.

    Take care.

     

  • maikdeckermaikdecker Posts: 3,037

    Cam Fox said:

    Any New Release over $1 includes the new Enterables Daz+ item. With Premier + 8 tokens that makes the buy-in $2.07 for 19% off a gift card.

    That's three out of three options that I don't can or want to fulfill.

    zombietaggerung said:

     it's a waste of money for me to buy something that will just sit on my external HDD taking up valuble storage space and never get used. It's just not worth it to me. And I cannot rationalize paying my hard earned money for something I don't want and will never use.

     Same here. Not every user here is doing 3d renders professional and has an income from it.

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