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I shall try very hard not to tread upon the sensitivities of others here!
I can connect no problem (150Mbs), I do use the current version of Daz but whatever way encrypted files in their current form simply are a big No! No! for me.
I don't have a problem with Daz trying to safeguard from piracy as in their position I would try something to stop it myself but having said that, the current way Encrypted files are installed and found simply does not work for me period!
For a while I thought I was amongst only a few that organised their Daz Native props folders in a logical common sense set of categories but it seems not. Like it seems many, I have absolutely no use for the Smart Content system to find my props which at present at least, is the only way to locate the encrypted files. With the few I have downloaded which were PC Freebies, I immediately located them and saved them in an unencryted version in my main props folder but that is no real answer as I would end up with a bloated Drive.
I did suggest that as Daz is very capable of seeing and using many formats then it may be possible to be able to install the encrypted props in the normal Props folder and make them visble in the normal way, make their folders editable (Changing the often obscure folder names) and movable to ones own categories. OK this might or might not be a major task but if Smart Content can see them than it doesn't seem like a quantum leap to enable the Daz main props folder to see and use them.
To illustrate what may be just a minor annoyance to some....Say after 6 months you can visualise a prop but can't recall it's name! With my (and many others it seems) folder categorisation system I can quickly narrow my search down...this is not so for me with Smart Content. I have found things in Smart Content in categories which bear absolutely no relationship with the prop!!!
I can't see myself and possibly many others buying many or maybe any encrypted props until their a year old and by them I like many would have forgotten about them.
Many people in this thread seem to be applauding Daz for a years compromise? Ok maybe this might suit some but I feel sure it doesn't suit many. There simply must be a better answer.
Maybe I just might be in the minority in this thread but from what I have read elsewhere over the past weeks I know I'm by no means alone.
Okay, the Chantelle Outfit looks nice, I'd like to buy and use it, but it's encrypted. So to the wishlist it goes, to wait twelve months plus however much longer it takes to be in a decent sale.
I'm disappointed that there's still no icon for encrypted products in the store index.
Yeah, me too. Maybe next year.
Me too. I have a 3X5 card taped to my monitor with the two encrypted items in my wishlist on it: Chantelle and trenchcoat. More to come, I am sure.
Same but I won't be adding it to the wishlist since there is no DAZ Connect icon displayed in the wishlist and I don't want to accidentily buy it before the DRM curse is lifted.
There IS the comment field in the wishlist - I am using it for PC items (even when there is a PC icon) - because on a everybody gets Pc prices weekend it helps me to strg+f through my wishlist quickly.
I finally found a use for the Comments field in the Wishlist - to put in 'Encrypted' and the date it should be unencypted - nothing today interests me so they aren't getting added. Just the Trenchcoat so far.
Buying cheap DRM-Connect now, means you'll:
1) Buy normal priced later.
2) In affect tieing yourself to Daz Software for the year they remain encrypted.
So as previously stated and for the reasons previously stated, hell no.
I like the look of the Rustic Living Room set. Might pick that up in a year when it no longer has cooties
. Should be a lot cheaper by then too - win, win!
I've also started noting down dates in the Comments field - not just for encryption, but also so that I can see from the wishlist when a product is no longer new (so I can use my Platinum coupons wisely LOL)
I wish the wishlist had a sort by items on sale option. Or even more useful, maybe they could rig up some sort of futuristic technology to send us an email when a wishlist item goes on sale.
I liked the look of this too, the rest of the stuff is similar to what I already have, but fortunately none of the new releases are things I can not wait a year for.
Rustic Living Room, by one of my favorite PAs, is definitely something I would have normally picked up on impulse before.
Same here. Chantelle Outfit and Bandolera (still using a lot of G2F) would be an instant buy a week or two ago. Now it is parked in the wishlist sector. Maybe in a year, we will see.
But I am curious if this will lead to even more privacy, as soon as some techie find a way of decrypting content. If there are users, avoiding to buy encrypted stuff, some of them might try some dubious sites on the net, because they dont want to wait a year. Not sure, just thinking. For me personally I will go look around what I might missed on other shops, since I saved a few bucks today.
Well I'm a bit surprised that so many are talking about waiting a year before products they like become unencrypted. I had assumed that most hard-core Daz users were inpulse buyers who snapped up products and only later thought about how to use them.
Apparently not so true for everyone, and it might (probably will) change the buying habits of many users as more products move to DRM. They say you shouldn't go shopping when you're hungry because you buy loads of stuff you don't really need, and it could be the case that having to wait a year, users may realise that what once seemed attractive is no longer so desirable a year later. Good for the wallet but not so good for merchants or Daz.
Nope, not gonna bite. I could buy now and wait a year to use it, or buy it a year later in a flash sale.
A year is a bit too long. If it were six months ... maybe. Maybe not.
DAZ and the PAs should be fine. With the DRM there's going to be galleons full of pirates turning into law abiding customers who should make up for the loss of sales from the existing customers.
The master plan is finally revealed LOL.
I have to say I was disappointed to see that everything released today was encrypted..I'm not really for or against it, I just haven't tried it out yet to see and I assumed that there would still be both types of content released daily.
It still amazes me that there's content released daily at all. I recall a time when that wasn't the case outside of Renderosity which had far lower standards in those days. Let them keep throwing money away trying to sell this DRM, as long as the DRM hurts sales the vendors will think twice about it and so will DAZ.
I have to agree; a number of new items are released on almost every day (except some of the weekends which have special sales to compensate.) Daz puts out a pretty massive amount of new content, all things considered. I don't want any of the encrypted content either, but so what if they have a day dedicated to it? Those that want it can buy it, and you have six other days to spend all your money on.
Well, they are testing out things, so having a day full of encrypted only products is something they have to do at some point. I'm pretty sure we will see more of these "encrypted only" sales days in the next few weeks, i.e. in regards to the March Madness. Who knows, the entire March Madness Sale might be encrypted, for all we know. It wouldn't surprise me the least. They'll get their numbers that way, and then see how the products sell in comparision to similar sales without encrypted products.
The problem is, of course, that you have no current comparision as to how many sales are "just" migrated to the time the product will become unencrypted. I guess, this makes this something of a long term experiment of sorts.
I had 2 of the items in my cart before I realized they were encrypted. LOL That'll teach me to read better now-a-days. Sooo... emptied cart and I'll wait until Daz has further word on manually sorting files. Daz_Steve (or another Daz_folk) said more news in a few weeks so we'll see then.
I truly hope MM isn't encrypted. That'll hurt.
As I said , I am not for or against the Encrytion/DRM thing, I don't think it will affect me in anyway as I don't have issues connected my new workstation to the internet, I don't have any self made categories to worry about yet, and I have never needed to dissect a file and change or add anything to it, I figure that's Daz's job to make sure it works the way it was portrayed when they sold it :) What I am not sold on yet is using Smart content, I have tried to use it in previous versions and just can't get it. I really like the Content Library, it's what I am used to and I like DIM because it's what I am used to. I will try out the Connect features soon and see how I like them, maybe it will be better, I don't know, I was just surprised that there wasn't both types of content released today.
Well Friday has traditionally been the encrypted day, although the last few times they were freebies. This time they have gone with heavily discounted instead, I guess to gadge market reaction.
I applaud Daz testing out REALLY selling content as Encrypted in a serious manner.
I hope it doesn't take too many of these sales for them to realize DRM is actually a bad idea and to shelve the notion.
And, again, the nice thing about the 12 month compromise is that it gives them precedent and technology to shut off DRM in shorter periods if their business model changes. (cough)
I think what they're doing is fine, but I wouldn't call it REALLY selling content. New releases at 70% for 3 is not normal.
I do hope that's sarcasm I'm hearing. They really do need a <sarcasm> tag on here.....
<sarcasm>Because we all know that every DRM applied makes all the pirates go buy legitimate copies.....</sarcasm>
(so much easier to know for sure that way....)
I think this is the one that's going to give them a wake-up call. First from the lower initial sales due to anti-DRM people. Second from the newbies who have issues with it. Third from customers who bought and then find out they have to upgrade to use it. Freebies people don't worry about as much, due to the "eh, it's free, so it isn't costing me anything...." attitudes. Also, if there are problems, they have similar "oh well, it didn't cost me anything..." attitudes. When you pay for it (even heavily discounted) people expect more.
A couple of these would have been near-instant buys for me....had they not been encrypted. On to the wishlist they go, with an encrypted comment in big bold letters.....
Actually, that's a good idea. I just noted the "end of encryption" date (today plus 1 yr&1Day to be safe) next to the article. Of course, it would be great if the "unencrypts on" date would be displayed automatically, but manual adding it isn't that much of a problem. I mean, it's not like they release 20 new items per day that I all would want to buy.