No encrypted for me.
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See, like I said, I figured there was another reason, it just sounded funny.
-- Walt Sterdan
hard for me to tell, given the only encrypted content is DAZ 'free' instead of actually free. Though I'll note the load and make changes seems like it could be a very tedious trial and error for things that a simple text search and replace could fix given how obfuscated the actual info in the encrypted files appears to be.
The FAQ says no.
http://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/comment/941600/#Comment_941600
But you're saying that I can use Windows Explorer to move say, "C:\Daz 3D\My Library\People\Genesis\Clothing\Mask" to say, "C:\Daz 3D\My Library\People\Genesis 1 Female\Clothing\Mask" for Connect Installed products? (All the textures I bought for that one were in random locations unrelated to the product.)
It must still be installed in the library to be used. (Rendering the entire library immovable forever.) If that is your main library, its also a big cluster f*ck of files to be modifying with potentially catastrophic side effects.
Is my understanding correct?
Excuse me? "it's based on perception rather than measure"??? What that tells me then is that you really DON'T know that piracy is worse than before -- you have nothing qualitative to back it up with. In that case, it's simply a matter of faith, not of fact.
And for THAT, we get hit with DRM?
not yet, maybe the stuff i bought just hasn't seen any updates though.
I've not really bought much from them to be honest. I have 7 items from there., 8 if I count the Reality plugin. I didn't get any email from rendo about the new ugrade to that one, but I did get one from Paolo's site.
What if you can see a polygon is out of place (I have seen this on a clothing item recently), it could be attached to the wrong vertex, or assigned to the wrong group, so ideally you would need to see the dsf data to fix that. Yes you can save the morph as an asset, and look at that, but we have been told that these types of exports may end up losing information, and if they do not, what is the purpose of encrypting them in the first place?
I got mine from Daz and got an email from Paolo's site as well. Pretty sure that he handles that himself
And for the record, GOG updates games all the time for free that I have purchased.
A fair example, and we've all been stung by software companies, encryption or not. Purchasing any software, encrypted or not, involves a certain amount of faith on both parties part, and both sides -- them and us -- try to hedge our bets. Will the software run in five years, will the company be around, will they upgrade it or abandon it, and so on. When I look at the tens of thousands of dollars I've spent on software in the last 35+ years, copy protection has had little to zero effect on longevity. Hardware and operating systems have been my biggest enemy. Does my non-copy-protected 1982 Magic Wand word processing software still run? Not until I find a new Z-80 processor card to throw into my old Apple ][+... and fix the 80-column chip.
Anything is possible; DAZ has promised that they'd implement the "poison pill" that would release the encryption should they go under. They've done an incredible job of maintaining their 30-day-no-questions-asked refund policy for years, I trust them and believe that they'd follow through on this (it costs them very, very little, since as a company they'll be gone and wouldn't be losing anything).
In all seriousness, if DAZ were to go under (and I doubt very much that it will, but anything's possible) I'd be far, far more worried about the software. Even without any software protetion whatsoever, eventually DAZ Studio would stop working as hardware and operating systems evolved, rendering all of the DAZ-only products unusable, for the most part.
In the meantime, why not upgrade your DAZ Studio, and just don't buy any encrypted items and wait to see what happens?
-- Walt Sterdan
What you are saying is true about programs, but not content. I am not using the same video player as the one I originally used on Windows 95, but I am playing the same mpg using the new movie player.
Thanks to everyone who attempted to explain what's so bad about DRM. I still believe the arguments I'm hearing against it are weak, but that's just my opinion. Hopefully the lunacy - regardless of which side you believe it's coming from - will subside soon.
The FAQ says no.
http://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/comment/941600/#Comment_941600
That post explains that you can create links that can be removed.
If you create links in that location as described, you can. The Connect-installed products aren't in that location.
You can move the Daz Connect library location -- there's an entry in Content Directory Manager for it, change the location and move the entire library (or just the Data/Cloud folder if you use that library for non-Connect products as well).
I have upgraded. I love the connect feature. I just want DAZ to be fully aware of the slippery slope they've chosen to proceed down, in hopes that reason might prevail before things go too far. And I won't buy an encrypted item, or buy anything that might cause me to be eligible to get one through one of the Daz 'free' offers.
I also get emails from Pret-a-3D about product updates. I've bought Reality from both DAZ and Rendo, and neither has alerted me about updates other than as announcement of a new release in their newsletters. I think Paolo may prefer to handle customer notification himself. But yeah, Rendo DOES send out emails about product updates.
They're still charging money for Bryce, Carrara and Hexagon. That carries an obligation for support which they have been very negligent with. Yeah Hexagon is only $20, but it's cheap price doesn't change the fact that every modern machine is running on a 64 bit operating system which they don't support. If they don't intend to support the software they should do the honourable thing and make it open source so the users can support it.
Animate just lets you save your own aniblocks. Keymate and Graphmate add some additional useful animation features to the program (which should have been there to begin with) but Daz Studio is still way too weak when it comes to animation tools.
At this point Daz not adding dynamics and physics to Studio does appear to be Daz not wanting to do what we want. There's no other way to explain it. It is almost universally wanted and yet Daz makes absolutely no movement on that front... oh but hey, have another Genesis figure nobody asked for.
And as for technology moving on in other fronts. If Daz would just use the standards for FBX and DAE instead of using their own proprietary formats for those industry standards (and what's the point of a DAE/FBX export/import for Daz Studio that only works in Daz Studio) then getting Daz assets to work in other industry software would be less problematic. There is absolutely no excuse for Daz not to use the standardized DAE/FBX protocols other than they don't want people to use Daz assets in other applications. This is downright incompetence. Daz makes the majority of it's bucks selling assets and yet they do everything they can to make sure nobody can use those assets in anything other than one single program. And a program which the industry considers a joke.
I am at a complete loss to figure out what the motives of the leadership of the company are because it certainly can't be to increase the userbase for the software nor increase the sales of their assets when everything they do runs counter to those goals.
Afraid it will be a rocky road indeed. Doesn't look good for DAZ nor any of it's members be them PC+ or not. Can't see anything positive coming out of this for DAZ. As far as DAZ content purchasers/members go I can imagine that they will occasionally make a purchase if only to get a DRM base model and morphs only to then go elsewhere to buy Non-DRM content but still coming back to make an occasional purchase. Excuse my paranoia over this whole DRM idea but I must look at things here realistically... sad as the appear to me.
I have had updates from Rendo regarding updates (and they arrive as an email from the vendor), but they are very rare, where as DAZ updates its products much more frequently. Mind you I have far more products from here than other there, so maybe that is why I see more update notifications
I will say that the product update notifications from Rendo have gotten to be few and far between, but it's been a while since I bought much there (most of the money I've been spending on 3D content has been spent here at DAZ), so I would assume that either Rendo isn't sending them out as often, or it means that the products I've bought from them haven't required further updates. I think the last one I got was around the start of Fall, which was -- conincidentally enough -- around the time I last bought something there. Most of the stuff I have from Rendo was made for V4 and M4, anyways, and that stuff has either matured (i.e., all the bugs worked out) or the vendors have simply moved on to other projects, and the stuff I'm buying from DAZ has been for Genesis 2 and 3 -- it would only make sense that the newer stuff would require more tweaks.
I also don't use DIM, and I've largely been using the "updated products" thread -- in addition to whatever threads exist for the DAZ products I own -- to keep up with changes and updates.
OK... so... test install to garbage library... Test product and make sure it works... Reinstall to primary library with knowledge of how to do clean it up.
Is there a script to create a similar series of links to the installed content? Some products have up to a healthy 80 objects (textures, etc.)
OK... so... test install to garbage library... Test product and make sure it works... Reinstall to primary library with knowledge of how to do clean it up.
Is there a script to create a similar series of links to the installed content? Some products have up to a healthy 80 objects (textures, etc.)
I believe Richard Haseltine is working on one (or will be, if he ever gets a free moment). You can select them all and drag them over once, don't need to do each item separately.
That post explains that you can create links that can be removed.
If you create links in that location as described, you can. The Connect-installed products aren't in that location
Yeah, I've been wanting to ask about that. So, if I want to organize my DS content like I used to, via the Explorer, I just have to take one additional step inside the software for every single item that belongs to a product to create those link files? And to create those link files via drag and drop, I will have to search my newly installed content in a library that is 'organized' by DAZ and their PAs, i.e. amidst the very chaos that I am trying to avoid by moving around my files manually in the first place?
Thing is I still don't see how this does not make my life much harder.
Thanks, but I'd rather not bother.
Especially not if it means supporting an infrastructure that DAZ can one day use, whether they are currently planning this or not, to create a walled garden.
I don't know what you're talking about, I export things from Studio in DAE format all the time for editing in Substance Painter and elsewhere. I also remember (although it was a long time ago) exporting an FBX to Blender that appeared to function as expected.
This industry considers anything that doesn't cost $700 or more to be a joke.
Don't be paranoid. Wait and see what happens. We go through this EVERY TIME DAZ does anything of note and yet we're all still here.
In Smart Content Products view, right-click on the product and choose "Explore Product". That gives you all the files at once, drag them all to Content Library and then you can organize them however you like.
It'll definitely limit what I'm interested in. Hugely.
Would I spring for Stonemason? Yeah. Anything else, really no. It would have to warrant the extra time to install and test.
Is that another database, or are link files being created in my file system. (New files and locations is what I want. That way it will work in the prescribed fashion.)
Is that another database, or are link files being created in my file system. (New files and locations is what I want. That way it will work in the prescribed fashion.)
Once you drag them to Content Library > DS-Formats or Poser-Formats they are link files in your file system.
+1
DAZ should know, one would think, that if not for Carrara a lot , as least some, of it's users wouldn't be here in the first place... spending money on DAZ content of which I have a lot of, much more that all all my purchases of Carrara and it's upgrades added together which started at Eovia and continued on here. I don't have but assume that the same is also true for Bryce users.
...I've been waiting nearly seven years for a stable Hexagon.
..which I paid a significantly more than 13.97$ (PC+ price) for.
DAZ presents with the introduction of Connect all user under the general suspicion of piracy.
Even some of the other 3D content sites are starting to mock this DRM stance.. Recieved a email from one of them today promoting that their content is and will always be DRM free, and part of their promotion was giving a discount code to all their members..
Has me wondering that was why their was that exodus of talented PA's and Staff from here to go and startup Hivewire maybe they saw the writing on the wall way back then..
And totally agree on that matter of Daz's other software products and total lack of support for them.. I use Hexagon a lot would love a 64bit version but I don't see that happening, I would use Bryce and Carrara but since they won't work with encrypted content say goodbye to them..