Victoria 7

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  • RogerbeeRogerbee Posts: 4,460
    edited December 1969

    Linwelly said:
    Autofitted the sighni dress and Pixi perfect Hair to genesis 3 lady (not the clone), works fine for most poses, I don't count those fashion model preset poses as normally human possible, but this is one of them. The more extreme ones need a little adaption.

    That's something at least.

    CHEERS!

  • RuphussRuphuss Posts: 2,631
    edited December 1969

    Rogerbee said:
    polka dot said:
    [Hehe, that's just what I was thinking.
    And they did it again: Astrani Outfit and Vigilante Outfit, two 'adventure' outfits, come with super high heels... That's ridiculous. Something I don't understand is why G2 and now G3 characters, like Adaline, very often have these bloodshot eyes. Adaline looks like a breathtaking beauty, but those eyes...

    V7 seems to be an attractive figure, and the improved facial expressions and the better compatibility of G3F and G3M products are something I appreciate very much. But until I don't know if I can use Autofit and the G1 and G2 content I bought for a lot of money with G3, this generation is not too interesting for me.

    G3F has a G2F clone as I autofitted Nightfever Hair to her.

    CHEERS!

    now look at the hair and garment
    both toonish looking
    the straps glued to the body
    no stretching
    in the hair you always see the transmaps
    till now what I notice in renders:
    environment :nice
    modell not fitting the quality of environment
    what we need more than ever is a good working dynamic clothes system
    a dynamic hair system that also works in animation
    a nice face is not enough
    if you look at the new promos
    they speak for itself

  • AoXAoX Posts: 8
    edited December 1969

    321nimb said:

    That was exactly my reaction. Except I said: "Are you F****** kidding me?" Then went into a hitler-"NEIN-NEIN-NEIN"-rage for half an hour...

    So all in all I see no reason to upgrade to G3 for now. Nicer bends? Yay, it's like buying a new car because it has more bubblegum-holders than your old one. Big deal.

    Well I guess that depends what you use the figures for, nicer bends is pretty much the most important thing I ask of a new figure. What irritates me is how little information they actually gave, what exactly bends nicer? No comparison shots with vic 6, kinda lame, forces me to wait for users to do daz's job really...

  • KhoryKhory Posts: 3,854
    edited December 1969

    Ah, right, not much more we can mention, is there!?

    Someone will..

  • RCTSpankyRCTSpanky Posts: 850
    edited June 2015

    I agree totally, that I don't want to buy any of the content inside the Pro bundles, just to get the gens. Why can't they just check, how old is the user and add the gens automatically to ones account, when the user is older than 18 and has bought the base character? That has nothing to do with family friendly. that is pure business. Or I am not a family friendly person, when I buy the Pro Bundle with the gens?

    And, when they must sell a Pro bundle, why don't they add the Body- and Face Morphs instead of the millions of sexy clothes, that we already know and have. Maybe they should have a look back on the old Pro Bundles for Mike 4 and Vicky 4, which comes with Morphs++ to make them ready for professionell use.

    Post edited by RCTSpanky on
  • RogerbeeRogerbee Posts: 4,460
    edited December 1969

    ruphuss said:
    Rogerbee said:
    polka dot said:
    [Hehe, that's just what I was thinking.
    And they did it again: Astrani Outfit and Vigilante Outfit, two 'adventure' outfits, come with super high heels... That's ridiculous. Something I don't understand is why G2 and now G3 characters, like Adaline, very often have these bloodshot eyes. Adaline looks like a breathtaking beauty, but those eyes...

    V7 seems to be an attractive figure, and the improved facial expressions and the better compatibility of G3F and G3M products are something I appreciate very much. But until I don't know if I can use Autofit and the G1 and G2 content I bought for a lot of money with G3, this generation is not too interesting for me.

    G3F has a G2F clone as I autofitted Nightfever Hair to her.

    CHEERS!

    now look at the hair and garment
    both toonish looking
    the straps glued to the body
    no stretching
    in the hair you always see the transmaps
    till now what I notice in renders:
    environment :nice
    modell not fitting the quality of environment
    what we need more than ever is a good working dynamic clothes system
    a dynamic hair system that also works in animation
    a nice face is not enough
    if you look at the new promos
    they speak for itself

    Quite true, still, as I said earlier, it's early days as yet. There may be more innovations round the corner.

    CHEERS!

  • D.RobinsonD.Robinson Posts: 283
    edited December 1969

    Seems everyone playing with G3 but me. When i go to product library and click on the DIM download link there is nothing in the DIM list. Is it just slow right now or am i missing something?


    Daniel

  • bytescapesbytescapes Posts: 1,905
    edited December 1969

    321nimb said:
    ... This morning...

    "FUUUUUUU-...!"

    That was exactly my reaction. Except I said: "Are you F****** kidding me?"

    My first reflex reaction was "Oh, for f***'s sake!" (in so many words)

    Victoria 7: the figure that launched a thousand F-bombs.

  • ChoholeChohole Posts: 33,604
    edited December 1969

    And, when they must sell a Pro bundle, why don't they add the Body- and Face Morphs instead of the millions of sexy clothes, that we already know and have. Maybe they should have a look back on the old Pro Bundles for Mike 4 and Vicky 4, which comes with Morphs++ to make them ready for professionell use.

    As has been said for every new base figure release, The Morph packs are for the base figure, ie Genesis 3, whereas the Pro bundle is for V7

  • DisparateDreamerDisparateDreamer Posts: 2,520
    edited December 1969

    ruphuss said:
    Rogerbee said:
    polka dot said:
    [Hehe, that's just what I was thinking.
    And they did it again: Astrani Outfit and Vigilante Outfit, two 'adventure' outfits, come with super high heels... That's ridiculous. Something I don't understand is why G2 and now G3 characters, like Adaline, very often have these bloodshot eyes. Adaline looks like a breathtaking beauty, but those eyes...

    V7 seems to be an attractive figure, and the improved facial expressions and the better compatibility of G3F and G3M products are something I appreciate very much. But until I don't know if I can use Autofit and the G1 and G2 content I bought for a lot of money with G3, this generation is not too interesting for me.

    G3F has a G2F clone as I autofitted Nightfever Hair to her.

    CHEERS!

    now look at the hair and garment
    both toonish looking
    the straps glued to the body
    no stretching
    in the hair you always see the transmaps
    till now what I notice in renders:
    environment :nice
    modell not fitting the quality of environment
    what we need more than ever is a good working dynamic clothes system
    a dynamic hair system that also works in animation
    a nice face is not enough
    if you look at the new promos
    they speak for itself

    what's holding ya back from using the optitex clothes? I use them on everyone, from genesis to genesis 3 to Star, cookie, and chip at RDNA.... even if it doesn't fit just scale it roughly to fit, then do animated drape to fit it.

    Hair is a big bummer.... cause I use LAMH but the renderman doesn't work in Iray.... that's the biggest drawback of Iray, really... that it breaks one of the best parts of Daz. :( Granted, I can export hair as fibermesh but that is VERY system heavy and ties up my computer for a long time. Not to mention that the UV map roulette game means hair styles have to be made for every freaking UV map..... not everything is a step forward :(

  • RogerbeeRogerbee Posts: 4,460
    edited December 1969

    I agree totally, that I don't want to buy any of the content inside the Pro bundles, just to get the gens. Why can't they just check, how old is the user and add the gens automatically to ones account, when the user is older than 18?

    And, when they must sell a Pro bundle, why don't they add the Body- and Face Morphs instead of the millions of sexy clothes, that we already know and have. Maybe they should have a look back on the old Pro Bundles for Mike 4 and Vicky 4, which comes with Morphs++ to make them ready for professionell use.

    To be fair, since G1, the body and face morphs have always been part of the base figure with the characters as offshoots. Therefore the bundles are always for the character and not the base figure. Though, oddly, the gens are for the base figure but are in the character bundle. Mmm.... go figure...

    CHEERS!

  • Mr BowenMr Bowen Posts: 404
    edited December 1969

    Exactly. I would rather have a Pro Anatomy Bundle like with G! than have to buy unwanted items to get the gens. Yes, I know I can go on a site that I may or may not trust to buy some, I would prefer to buy the from Daz. Yes, out of context that sounds really weird...Can anyone answer if they actually improved them or are they the same ones again? That really made them not worth buying the bundles to get them with G2.

  • marblemarble Posts: 7,500
    edited December 1969

    Cypherfox said:

    Still, I had an insight, which might help other people.

    This is just a G2F-like figure release. It's just another 20-something of the month, Tuesday figure release.

    It's not buying into a whole new way of thinking, or anything else like that. Your G2F stuff will work on it, except texture maps, but that's okay, it's like it's got a new UV anyway, and didn't they all? ;)

    If you think of it like that, it's just another monthly release, and it's okay. So if you'd pay $66.13 (or $59.something, or whatever) for a new release, with some cool new clothes, and GORGEOUS hair, and stuff like that, then it's right in line with that. You can buy her and have her along side your G2F stuff, like just another character.

    Since I buy nearly all the G2F characters, unless their included items REALLY don't interest me, that made it a lot easier for me. Might not work for you, but give it a try. It might change your perspective a bit.

    -- Morgan

    I bet DAZ loves your justifications but they don't work for me. To get where I am now I would need:

    G3/V7 (I won't even count Teen7, Gia7 and all the other G2F characters I have)

    Body Morphs

    Head Morphs

    Growing Up

    Ageing Morphs

    HD overlays

    G3F Gens (only option is to buy the Pro Pack)

    Skin Builder

    Pose Builder

    GenX2 (GenX3 ?)

    and on, and on.

    How well will the clothes work between G2 and G3 (backwards or forwards autofit)? Time will tell.

    What justifies that kind of spend? A nicer smile?

    Sorry, I'll wait for the big sale in 6 months.

  • hwoarang210hwoarang210 Posts: 4
    edited December 1969

    Sukie said:

    I am afraid better bends and expressions just aren’t enough to justify the huge expense.

    I’m off this money-go-round.

    Same to me. This "Hobby" becomes far to expensive. After getting a lot of " 6" figures and tons of G2 outfits, i'll have fun with my existing Stuff and spend money for other things now than DAZ ...

    Some of the new (g3 only) outfits are nice, so I should buy now new v7 (and soon m7, a7 ..), new hairs, new shoes, new morphs, new poses, new anthing (and no update offers)? And in about 6-9 months the same game with v8? Definitive NO!

    "Autofit" is no argument.

    Sukie

    I understand. This is a secondary hobby for me since my big hobby is video gaming. I didn't realize how much money I had sunk into Poser, DAZ stuff until recently. I do find myself buying less than I used to because I think I have most of what I want and see no real reason to keep buying stuff. I might get a G3 figure down the line but I never was a big Victoria fan so having her be the draw isn't enough for me. Maybe an A7 because I'm more into anime/manga stuff anyway.

  • Mr BowenMr Bowen Posts: 404
    edited June 2015

    I do still appreciate the fact that the G3 Base figure is still free. Thank you for that, Daz

    Post edited by Mr Bowen on
  • twallingtwalling Posts: 241
    edited December 1969

    Seriously, already?

  • MouserMouser Posts: 675
    edited December 1969

    Base figure looks good but the bundled content looks pretty meh.

  • marblemarble Posts: 7,500
    edited December 1969


    what's holding ya back from using the optitex clothes? I use them on everyone, from genesis to genesis 3 to Star, cookie, and chip at RDNA.... even if it doesn't fit just scale it roughly to fit, then do animated drape to fit it.

    OT, I know but ... is there a tutorial on how to do that? Do V4 Optitex clothes fit G2F? When I try, I end up with a crumpled mess around her ankles.

    Also, they may well drape nicely but they are hard to pose. I can always take a conforming item into Blender and make my own morph but have no idea how to do that with Dynamic Clothes.

  • MasterstrokeMasterstroke Posts: 2,299
    edited June 2015

    O.K. DAZ-Ladys and Guys ;). Me and others spent 135 $ on the V7 Pro bundle. That's a lot of money- so go and have a nice dinner tonight together and celebrate that release.
    Well done. I like it. Looks realy cool. Have fun and don't drink and drive, please ;)

    Post edited by Masterstroke on
  • nicsttnicstt Posts: 11,715
    edited December 1969

    Still 4k textures with Victoria 7; so we wait for vic 8 for 8k ones.

    It seems the hype doesn't match the reality, or am I mistaken? Yes I have checked out the pages about genesis 3.

    Is very interesting though, but not useful really until the morphs for various body types etc appear - looks promising

  • XenomorphineXenomorphine Posts: 2,421
    edited June 2015

    It's nice to think everything would work on it, but we all know stuff like shoes don't even transfer well from Genesis to Genesis 2.

    Plus, as I say, this usually means the previous generation's product content stops being worked on.

    Post edited by Xenomorphine on
  • jakkujakku Posts: 91
    edited December 1969

    Hello :)

    Expressions, body morphs and head morphs shows up at 30% off here, is that correct? I thought 51% off? :)

    Anyone know? Thanks :)

  • RuphussRuphuss Posts: 2,631
    edited December 1969

    ruphuss said:
    Rogerbee said:
    polka dot said:
    [Hehe, that's just what I was thinking.
    And they did it again: Astrani Outfit and Vigilante Outfit, two 'adventure' outfits, come with super high heels... That's ridiculous. Something I don't understand is why G2 and now G3 characters, like Adaline, very often have these bloodshot eyes. Adaline looks like a breathtaking beauty, but those eyes...

    V7 seems to be an attractive figure, and the improved facial expressions and the better compatibility of G3F and G3M products are something I appreciate very much. But until I don't know if I can use Autofit and the G1 and G2 content I bought for a lot of money with G3, this generation is not too interesting for me.

    G3F has a G2F clone as I autofitted Nightfever Hair to her.

    CHEERS!

    now look at the hair and garment
    both toonish looking
    the straps glued to the body
    no stretching
    in the hair you always see the transmaps
    till now what I notice in renders:
    environment :nice
    modell not fitting the quality of environment
    what we need more than ever is a good working dynamic clothes system
    a dynamic hair system that also works in animation
    a nice face is not enough
    if you look at the new promos
    they speak for itself

    what's holding ya back from using the optitex clothes? I use them on everyone, from genesis to genesis 3 to Star, cookie, and chip at RDNA.... even if it doesn't fit just scale it roughly to fit, then do animated drape to fit it.

    Hair is a big bummer.... cause I use LAMH but the renderman doesn't work in Iray.... that's the biggest drawback of Iray, really... that it breaks one of the best parts of Daz. :( Granted, I can export hair as fibermesh but that is VERY system heavy and ties up my computer for a long time. Not to mention that the UV map roulette game means hair styles have to be made for every freaking UV map..... not everything is a step forward :(

    did you try to use optitex with animation ?
    for movies
    I did try and its not working well
    for just posing it may be ok
    ok I only have the standard version
    I refused to buy the better version because of the bad recommendations

  • MouserMouser Posts: 675
    edited December 1969

    Hmmm, not poser compatible according to product page?
    Oh well, no sale here then (shrugs & moves on).

  • nicsttnicstt Posts: 11,715
    edited December 1969

    marble said:

    what's holding ya back from using the optitex clothes? I use them on everyone, from genesis to genesis 3 to Star, cookie, and chip at RDNA.... even if it doesn't fit just scale it roughly to fit, then do animated drape to fit it.

    OT, I know but ... is there a tutorial on how to do that? Do V4 Optitex clothes fit G2F? When I try, I end up with a crumpled mess around her ankles.

    Also, they may well drape nicely but they are hard to pose. I can always take a conforming item into Blender and make my own morph but have no idea how to do that with Dynamic Clothes.

    I almost always use dynamic now - the issue is there isn't enough choice. It takes some practice, and time spent getting the drape looking good is much less than trying to get custom morphs on the conforming clothes.

    Far too much clothing is conforming when really it would be superb as dynamic

  • boisselazonboisselazon Posts: 458
    edited December 1969

    I can't find the genesis 3 starter essential.
    I've checked the DAZ Install manager, its options etc... nothing.

    Any idea?

  • Fixme12Fixme12 Posts: 589
    edited December 1969

    marble said:

    what's holding ya back from using the optitex clothes? I use them on everyone, from genesis to genesis 3 to Star, cookie, and chip at RDNA.... even if it doesn't fit just scale it roughly to fit, then do animated drape to fit it.

    OT, I know but ... is there a tutorial on how to do that? Do V4 Optitex clothes fit G2F? When I try, I end up with a crumpled mess around her ankles.

    Also, they may well drape nicely but they are hard to pose. I can always take a conforming item into Blender and make my own morph but have no idea how to do that with Dynamic Clothes.

    watch this one, it's a good one
    search goole marvelous designer and digitaltutors (Creating-a-Detailed-Dress-in-Marvelous-Designer)
    it's done with a daz figure.

  • DisparateDreamerDisparateDreamer Posts: 2,520
    edited December 1969

    nicstt said:
    marble said:

    what's holding ya back from using the optitex clothes? I use them on everyone, from genesis to genesis 3 to Star, cookie, and chip at RDNA.... even if it doesn't fit just scale it roughly to fit, then do animated drape to fit it.

    OT, I know but ... is there a tutorial on how to do that? Do V4 Optitex clothes fit G2F? When I try, I end up with a crumpled mess around her ankles.

    Also, they may well drape nicely but they are hard to pose. I can always take a conforming item into Blender and make my own morph but have no idea how to do that with Dynamic Clothes.

    I almost always use dynamic now - the issue is there isn't enough choice. It takes some practice, and time spent getting the drape looking good is much less than trying to get custom morphs on the conforming clothes.

    Far too much clothing is conforming when really it would be superb as dynamic

    Same. I wish the optitex thing hadn't fallen through, there's far too little. I have all the optitex freebies and there's more for sale from the optitex site but gosh we need more.

  • RogerbeeRogerbee Posts: 4,460
    edited December 1969

    I can't find the genesis 3 starter essential.
    I've checked the DAZ Install manager, its options etc... nothing.

    Any idea?

    Go to your Product Library, you should be able to get it there.

    CHEERS!

  • riftwitchriftwitch Posts: 1,439
    edited December 1969

    Rogerbee said:

    I had a quick play with G3F earlier and I was able to autofit Nightfever Hair to her, so, we may get by with hair and clothes, but maybe not textures, so that is something I suppose. One thing I have noticed is that there are hardly any morphs with G3F so I'm wondering if they now come with V7 and not separately like the other base figure morphs did.

    CHEERS!

    G2F hardly had any morphs included either, compared to Genesis 1; they were moved into the body morphs set. Probably the same with G3F; I haven't looked at the product description for the new head morphs and body morphs yet

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