So.... March Madness?

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  • scorpioscorpio Posts: 8,533
    Noah LGP said:
    Noah LGP said:

    I'm still waiting for a Quarantine Madness offer...

    No money to buy expensive stuff like 3D

     

    That's why a discount on  the entire store would be welcome.

     

     

     

    daveso said:
    Noah LGP said:

    I'm still waiting for a Quarantine Madness offer...

    yeah ... how many DAZ customers out of work?

     

     

    Soon everybody in the world cheeky !

    For those of us losing our income its really not funny.

  • CybersoxCybersox Posts: 9,264
    barbult said:

    is just March Sadness for me crying

    Australian dollar and my retirement moneys dwindling I just sit at home with my 7 rolls of dunny paper and slowly render what I already have, stopped buying the 70% off things even

    I think the truth is that we all already have enough content to keep us busy creating scenes and animations for the rest of our lifetime. blushIt's hard to resist the temptation of shiny new things every day, though, isn't it?

    Well, yes and no.  There are some things that have not yet been created for the DAZ/Poserverse that I still hope to eventually see - a modern military submarine with working interior, a modern fire station, a Toyota Prius, so while I could go for many, many years with what I have, there would be things that I'd still wish for.  But to your statement overall, yeah, I'm not going to pass up BETTER versions of the same things I already have if they strike my fancy, or even just alternate versions if it's the kind of thing that I can see needing multiple variants of like City street scenes, airplanes and men's business suits.    

  • tj_1ca9500btj_1ca9500b Posts: 2,057
    edited March 2020

    I'm still in the "March Meh-ness' camp.  There have been a few really good deals, but for the most part, I remember better deals in past sales.  Of course, there was more multiple discount stacking going on in those sales, which pushed a lot of products below the $1 mark for older items, and which made some of the more recent products look more attractive price wise, but yeah, in a lot of cases the $1.99 deals in the recent PC+ sale deals in were more interesting, particularly with discount stacking in play.  Of course, they may be saving that level for the next PC+ sale in November, but as the economy is slowing to a crawl, well as noted above a number of people around the world have a lot less discretionary cash these days thanks to the Covid 19 countermeasures.

    Fortunately, those that do the art thing for a living are already working from home in a lot of cases, so I guess that's an 'upside' of sorts I guess. 

    I remember stretching my Daz budget quite hard in the 2017 MM sale, This year, while I did bank a lot of store credit a couple of months back in anticipation for this sale, it now looks like that balance might actually last me until the next PC+ sale unless the Daz sales team steps up their game later this month, .  The month is nearly over, of course...

    Anyways, yeah some pretty good deals, but still a mere shadow of MM 2017, and a few of you have mentioned even more impressive past MM sales...

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  • alex86firealex86fire Posts: 1,130
    Drip said:
    While some customers are probably out of work I imagine that a lot of other types of expenses (like going out) will start to be redirected towards stuff you can do in your house, like rendering. So I think in the end it will be a balance and the customer base will remain pretty constant.

    Well, there are those with temp jobs, who are increasingly becoming people with no-jobs. And depending on the country you live in, even a contract might not mean much when your employer is going out of business due to some lockdown.

    I don't think people that are left with no income should be spending their money at the daz store regardless of the discounts. Of course, everyone is free to make their own choices but in my opinion there should other things on their priority list.
  • nicsttnicstt Posts: 11,715

    I'm suddenly glad of those gift cards i bought, considering the exchange rate now

     

  • nicsttnicstt Posts: 11,715
    Cybersox said:

    Is anyone besides me suprised that there isn't a St. Patricks's Day special of some sort up yet?

    Well, actually, I wondered about that, but DAZ is located in Utah where St. Patrick's Day probably isn't celebrated with the same enthusiam as in some other places given that UTAH has the lowest number of residents with Irish Ancestry of any state in the union at 5.9% (less than half of New York state and only a quarter of Massachusetts), and 62% of the population of Utah are Mormons who aren't allowed to consume any alcohol, including beer. 

     

    Last year there were St.Patrick's Day items. Not drinking oriented, IIRC. 

     

    Not really a St Patrick Day theme if there is no drinking involved.

  • Charlie JudgeCharlie Judge Posts: 13,241
    nicstt said:
    Cybersox said:

    Is anyone besides me suprised that there isn't a St. Patricks's Day special of some sort up yet?

    Well, actually, I wondered about that, but DAZ is located in Utah where St. Patrick's Day probably isn't celebrated with the same enthusiam as in some other places given that UTAH has the lowest number of residents with Irish Ancestry of any state in the union at 5.9% (less than half of New York state and only a quarter of Massachusetts), and 62% of the population of Utah are Mormons who aren't allowed to consume any alcohol, including beer. 

     

    Last year there were St.Patrick's Day items. Not drinking oriented, IIRC. 

     

    Not really a St Patrick Day theme if there is no drinking involved.

    How about 4 leaf clovers,  Leprechans, or even a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow instead of drinking green beer?

  • CybersoxCybersox Posts: 9,264
    nicstt said:
    Cybersox said:

    Is anyone besides me suprised that there isn't a St. Patricks's Day special of some sort up yet?

    Well, actually, I wondered about that, but DAZ is located in Utah where St. Patrick's Day probably isn't celebrated with the same enthusiam as in some other places given that UTAH has the lowest number of residents with Irish Ancestry of any state in the union at 5.9% (less than half of New York state and only a quarter of Massachusetts), and 62% of the population of Utah are Mormons who aren't allowed to consume any alcohol, including beer. 

     

    Last year there were St.Patrick's Day items. Not drinking oriented, IIRC. 

     

    Not really a St Patrick Day theme if there is no drinking involved.

    How about 4 leaf clovers,  Leprechans, or even a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow instead of drinking green beer?

    The beer doesn't have to be green, and all of the above except the Leprechauns themselves, were in last year's singular SPD item, so there wouldn't have been much point in repeating that. But yeah, I was expecting a cute leprechaun styled outfit for G8F, an Irish bar or something with a Darby O'Gill vibe.    

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,840
    Noah LGP said:

    I'm still waiting for a Quarantine Madness offer...

    ...yes

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,840
    edited March 2020
    Cybersox said:
    nicstt said:
    Cybersox said:

    Is anyone besides me suprised that there isn't a St. Patricks's Day special of some sort up yet?

    Well, actually, I wondered about that, but DAZ is located in Utah where St. Patrick's Day probably isn't celebrated with the same enthusiam as in some other places given that UTAH has the lowest number of residents with Irish Ancestry of any state in the union at 5.9% (less than half of New York state and only a quarter of Massachusetts), and 62% of the population of Utah are Mormons who aren't allowed to consume any alcohol, including beer. 

     

    Last year there were St.Patrick's Day items. Not drinking oriented, IIRC. 

     

    Not really a St Patrick Day theme if there is no drinking involved.

    How about 4 leaf clovers,  Leprechans, or even a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow instead of drinking green beer?

    The beer doesn't have to be green, and all of the above except the Leprechauns themselves, were in last year's singular SPD item, so there wouldn't have been much point in repeating that. But yeah, I was expecting a cute leprechaun styled outfit for G8F, an Irish bar or something with a Darby O'Gill vibe.    

    ...crikey they've done Oktoberfest themed content, drinking beer is what Oktoberfest is all about.

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  • JOdelJOdel Posts: 6,306

    Of course there was a St Patrick's day theme. I didn't see any snakes here on Tuesday.

  • Noah LGPNoah LGP Posts: 2,617
    edited March 2020
    nevermind
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  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675

    what does this say? 

    all i see is show now

  • LucielLuciel Posts: 475
    edited March 2020
    Mystiarra said:

    what does this say? 

    all i see is show now

    "4 hour bundle flash sale

    50% off select Genesis 8 bundles.

    Get 65% off* when you include any Newly Mad item on March Madness

    Or 70% off* when you buy any 2 or more Newly Mad items on March Madness

    *Items must be in cart simultaneously for discount to apply

    Shop now" 

    Is what it says, questionable grammar intact. laugh

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  • scorpio said:
    Noah LGP said:
    Noah LGP said:

    I'm still waiting for a Quarantine Madness offer...

    No money to buy expensive stuff like 3D

     

    That's why a discount on  the entire store would be welcome.

     

     

     

    daveso said:
    Noah LGP said:

    I'm still waiting for a Quarantine Madness offer...

    yeah ... how many DAZ customers out of work?

     

     

    Soon everybody in the world cheeky !

    For those of us losing our income its really not funny.

    No, it's not funny. I am one of those people, but lucky enough to have a job, just with less hours. And even if wasn't in this situation, I wouldn't find these jokes funny.

  • Cris PalominoCris Palomino Posts: 12,440

    Please be mindful when making comments regarding ongoing world events. People are bound to be sensitive about many things at this time because of the uncertainty. Be kind to each other.

  • gitika1gitika1 Posts: 948
    Gogger said:

    Somebody talking about dForce fur milcat??

    Nicely done!

  • alex86firealex86fire Posts: 1,130

    Anyone else thinks that the new https://www.daz3d.com/gwendolyn-hd-for-genesis-8-female looks like Ciri from the Witcher?

  • jd641jd641 Posts: 462

    While I would like to get a DO for free, there's nothing in that small list of Newly Mad items that interest me at all. :(

  • lana_lasslana_lass Posts: 520
    edited March 2020
    jd641 said:

    While I would like to get a DO for free, there's nothing in that small list of Newly Mad items that interest me at all. :(

     

    Same! I feel rather rude complaning about a freebie offer (because obviously they're always extremely generous as Daz are under no obligations to ever give things away for free like this!), but I can't help but feel the conditions in this current offer sort of take the gloss off...  I'm faring fairly ok right now with the global crisis, but there are SO many in this community who aren't either due to income loss and/or plummeting currency exchange rates. For them, this offer might seem less like a "hey, here's a free item!" and more like, "Hey, you can't afford to buy two new items and so you ALSO can't get this item for free you've really wanted!" Thumb, meet nose.

     

    Having said that, it was only a few weeks ago they gave everyone $20 (if I'm remembering right) of free items with no conditions attached, so maybe I am being a bit ungrateful. Just trying to think of how this offer might be from the POV of some Dazers who are struggling ATM. 

     

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  • Anyone else thinks that the new https://www.daz3d.com/gwendolyn-hd-for-genesis-8-female looks like Ciri from the Witcher?

    Yes.There's always been a supply of models, at Daz 3D & its competitors, that just happen to look a lot like popular TV, video game, etc. characters. Or their clothing or hair. 

    And if you like The Witcher, PA Kayleyss has a bunch of G3 content that look VERY much like the video game versions of The Witcher characters: Gwenbleiz HD & Beard, Gwennili HD, Trish HD and Jenn HD. plus Hunter Gear (swords & armor). Just find the right clothing & hair for the women...

  • alex86firealex86fire Posts: 1,130
    edited March 2020
    lana_lass said:
    jd641 said:

    While I would like to get a DO for free, there's nothing in that small list of Newly Mad items that interest me at all. :(

     

    Same! I feel rather rude complaning about a freebie offer (because obviously they're always extremely generous as Daz are under no obligations to ever give things away for free like this!), but I can't help but feel the conditions in this current offer sort of take the gloss off...  I'm faring fairly ok right now with the global crisis, but there are SO many in this community who aren't either due to income loss and/or plummeting currency exchange rates. For them, this offer might seem less like a "hey, here's a free item!" and more like, "Hey, you can't afford to buy two new items and so you ALSO can't get this item for free you've really wanted!" Thumb, meet nose.

     

    Having said that, it was only a few weeks ago they gave everyone $20 (if I'm remembering right) of free items with no conditions attached, so maybe I am being a bit ungrateful. Just trying to think of how this offer might be from the POV of some Dazers who are struggling ATM. 

    I don't know why they, or you, are calling this a free item.

    By definition something free means something thatn is without cost or payment. If you have to buy something to get this "free" item it means that it does come at a cost so it is not free.

    It is merely another form of discount for the items you are buying in the first place. In this case, for the newly mad items.

    What they did at the start of March Madness and you also mentioned was indeed free.

     

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  • lana_lasslana_lass Posts: 520
    edited March 2020
    lana_lass said:
    jd641 said:

    While I would like to get a DO for free, there's nothing in that small list of Newly Mad items that interest me at all. :(

     

    Same! I feel rather rude complaning about a freebie offer (because obviously they're always extremely generous as Daz are under no obligations to ever give things away for free like this!), but I can't help but feel the conditions in this current offer sort of take the gloss off...  I'm faring fairly ok right now with the global crisis, but there are SO many in this community who aren't either due to income loss and/or plummeting currency exchange rates. For them, this offer might seem less like a "hey, here's a free item!" and more like, "Hey, you can't afford to buy two new items and so you ALSO can't get this item for free you've really wanted!" Thumb, meet nose.

     

    Having said that, it was only a few weeks ago they gave everyone $20 (if I'm remembering right) of free items with no conditions attached, so maybe I am being a bit ungrateful. Just trying to think of how this offer might be from the POV of some Dazers who are struggling ATM. 

    I don't know why they, or you, are calling this a free item.

    By definition something free means something thatn is without cost or payment. If you have to buy something to get this "free" item it means that it does come at a cost so it is not free.

    It is merely another form of discount for the items you are buying in the first place. In this case, for the newly mad items.

    What they did at the start of March Madness and you also mentioned was indeed free.

     

    I (and others) are just using the definition/wording that Daz has used themselves in the banner today @alex86fire :) But in reality, of course, you are quite right. The additional item is being given without cost, but the transaction in order to acquire it is not without cost, so it's not strictly free no. 

     

    My post was just in sympathy for those suddenly struggling right now... I mean, it's always the case that some people can afford to take part in offers and others can't so maybe I'm not raising a particularly valid point, but exchange rates are going mad so there's undoubtedly more struggling than most right now, so... heart But I guess we can't expect Daz to offer another no conditions attached free item when they've already kindly done so during this sale period. 

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  • alex86firealex86fire Posts: 1,130
    lana_lass said:
    lana_lass said:
    jd641 said:

    While I would like to get a DO for free, there's nothing in that small list of Newly Mad items that interest me at all. :(

     

    Same! I feel rather rude complaning about a freebie offer (because obviously they're always extremely generous as Daz are under no obligations to ever give things away for free like this!), but I can't help but feel the conditions in this current offer sort of take the gloss off...  I'm faring fairly ok right now with the global crisis, but there are SO many in this community who aren't either due to income loss and/or plummeting currency exchange rates. For them, this offer might seem less like a "hey, here's a free item!" and more like, "Hey, you can't afford to buy two new items and so you ALSO can't get this item for free you've really wanted!" Thumb, meet nose.

     

    Having said that, it was only a few weeks ago they gave everyone $20 (if I'm remembering right) of free items with no conditions attached, so maybe I am being a bit ungrateful. Just trying to think of how this offer might be from the POV of some Dazers who are struggling ATM. 

    I don't know why they, or you, are calling this a free item.

    By definition something free means something thatn is without cost or payment. If you have to buy something to get this "free" item it means that it does come at a cost so it is not free.

    It is merely another form of discount for the items you are buying in the first place. In this case, for the newly mad items.

    What they did at the start of March Madness and you also mentioned was indeed free.

     

    I (and others) are just using the definition/wording that Daz has used themselves in the banner today @alex86fire :) But in reality, of course, you are quite right. The additional item is being given without cost, but the transaction in order to acquire it is not without cost, so it's not strictly free no. 

     

    My post was just in sympathy for those suddenly struggling right now... I mean, it's always the case that some people can afford to take part in offers and others can't so maybe I'm not raising a particularly valid point, but exchange rates are going mad so there's undoubtedly more struggling than most right now, so... heart But I guess we can't expect Daz to offer another no conditions attached free item when they've already kindly done so during this sale period. 

    I mentioned this in another thread as well, while I do sympathize for those that are struggling because of the epidemic, I don't think new products is what they need right now.

  • lana_lasslana_lass Posts: 520

    I wouldn't presume to know what anyone feels they need to deal with the situation, and for all of us it will be very different as we self-issolate and try to get by... but I do get what you mean @alex86fire and very much understand that you say it with great sympathy :)

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,840
    edited March 2020

    ...I remember that 20$ in DOs was tied to buying a new Mad Release. At the time finances were tight as it was the end of the month, so I had to forego the offer.  This weekend looks like a quiet one just a Kvetchup sale. with no other special offers or coupon and an emphasis on fantasy for the new items. 

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  • CybersoxCybersox Posts: 9,264

    On the other hand, the fact that people can continue to make and distribute digital products despite all the various measures is a benefit to the economy as a whole.  I imagine that a lot of people who've never tried e-books, audiobooks and online streaming are finding themselves pretty glad that those options are available, and I would think that a lot of artists who've never played with CG are trying DAZ, Poser, etc. for the first time.  Does getting an extra discount at DAZ make up for having to cancel the trip I'd reserved for five members of my family to go to Hawaii for the first time?  Not really, but, just as my 81 year old mom would be probably be going out of her mind with cabin fever if it wasn't for the Kindle Fire I bought her, at least it's something.      

  • CybersoxCybersox Posts: 9,264
    jd641 said:

    While I would like to get a DO for free, there's nothing in that small list of Newly Mad items that interest me at all. :(There's nothing in that list of newly mads at all for me

    By contrast, there are more than a few items that I like in the Newly Mad selection, but not much left in the list of items offered that I don't already have.. just 65 out of a selection of 1083 items. 

  • tj_1ca9500btj_1ca9500b Posts: 2,057
    edited March 2020

    While I'm sure it's possible that a few people around here that generate income with Daz 3D might actually see an increase in demand for their services, my guess is that income from Patreon pledges, commissions, etc. is going to drop for most people during this crisis.  So it's safe to say that nearly everyone is going to be affected during this time.

    For those that just do 'free' artwork, they might not see much of a change, but I'm guessing that a lot of people have some sort of income stream from their artwork rendering.  I know a few people around here do book covers and such, for example.

    PAs of course often rely on those of us that may buy their products of course, but if the Daz buyer is making less money these days, well that's less money that they can afford for their Daz hobby.  Then of course the Daz3D staff needs to be factored in here as well.

    So it's a bit of a vicious circle.  The question is, is selling items at steeper discounts than we have seen so far in MM going to generate more income than Daz3D and it's PA's are making at the moment?

    Of course, this is one of those times that people may simply fall back on their existing libraries, depending on how much they've invested up to this point, and maybe learn a few things like porting older characters forward to G3/G8, learning how to design clothing in Blender, Hexagon, etc., maybe pick up Marvelous Designer or some such, and such to learn how to make more of their own content.  If the people aren't biting on the commisions front and such, you might have more time to brush up your skills.  Of course, people that end up doing this due to budget constraints by definition aren't buying stuff from Daz3D and other 3D content providers, so the question become how much of an incentive will it take to get them to buy stuff, if they are still setting aside a little money at least for new content if the price is right.

    People that do commission work and such often grab new content for new commissions, but that doesn't mean that they have to do that, if they have the skillset and the extra time to come up with stuff themselves.  I'd also imagine that we may see people looking harder at free content if their income streams are beginning to shrink.

    There's at least one thread on the Patreon Reddit where people have noted that the number of new pledges in recent weeks has already dropped, and that people are beginning to cancel their pledges noting the current crisis.  I'm guessing there will be a bit of an avalance of dropped pledges around the beginning of April... we usually see a drop in pledges around the first of the month, but this next month may see a much larger drop than usual...

    I guess we'll see how this continues to play out in the coming weeks. 

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  • CybersoxCybersox Posts: 9,264
    edited March 2020

    While I'm sure it's possible that a few people around here that generate income with Daz 3D might actually see an increase in demand for their services, my guess is that income from Patreon pledges, commissions, etc. is going to drop for most people during this crisis.  So it's safe to say that nearly everyone is going to be affected during this time.

    For those that just do 'free' artwork, they might not see much of a change, but I'm guessing that a lot of people have some sort of income stream from their artwork rendering.  I know a few people around here do book covers and such, for example.

    PAs of course often rely on those of us that may buy their products of course, but if the Daz buyer is making less money these days, well that's less money that they can afford for their Daz hobby.  Then of course the Daz3D staff needs to be factored in here as well.

    So it's a bit of a vicious circle.  The question is, is selling items at steeper discounts than we have seen so far in MM going to generate more income than Daz3D and it's PA's are making at the moment?

    Of course, this is one of those times that people may simply fall back on their existing libraries, depending on how much they've invested up to this point, and maybe learn a few things like porting older characters forward to G3/G8, learning how to design clothing in Blender, Hexagon, etc., maybe pick up Marvelous Designer or some such, and such to learn how to make more of their own content.  If the people aren't biting on the commisions front and such, you might have more time to brush up your skills.  Of course, people that end up doing this due to budget constraints by definition aren't buying stuff from Daz3D and other 3D content providers, so the question become how much of an incentive will it take to get them to buy stuff, if they are still setting aside a little money at least for new content if the price is right.

    People that do commission work and such often grab new content for new commissions, but that doesn't mean that they have to do that, if they have the skillset and the extra time to come up with stuff themselves.  I'd also imagine that we may see people looking harder at free content if their income streams are beginning to shrink.

    There's at least one thread on the Patreon Reddit where people have noted that the number of new pledges in recent weeks has already dropped, and that people are beginning to cancel their pledges noting the current crisis.  I'm guessing there will be a bit of an avalance of dropped pledges around the beginning of April... we usually see a drop in pledges around the first of the month, but this next month may see a much larger drop than usual...

    I guess we'll see how this continues to play out in the coming weeks. 

    True.  Only DAZ will know which way the sales lean, but as an interesting side thought... does anyone know if DAZ pays in US dollars or a PA's native currency?  Since the dollar is riding high versus a lot of other currencies right now, the relative boost from getting paid in USD may offset lower sales to a certain percent.  My ex just got back from doing some conventions in Austrailia and said it nearly killed her when she turned in her Aussie $$$ and saw how much worse the exchange rate was from when she left.   

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