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Depends on size of the city, I live in a small city, all the franchise restaurants in my town are that clean, some are spotless, including bathroom. Reaon being, majority of customers in town, visit drive thru these day's, I rarely see interior occupation. 20 vehcles in thru lanes. Reason McD has double lanes. Drive thru is messy. Also many customers order digitally and pick up. Now the ones with alcohol bars, during sporting events, different story, Rofl !!!!
Independant and family owned restaurants have flaws, specially older ones from the 80's-90's still in business.
maybe it was misspelled... and should of been floor
The fast-food restaurants that I go too I always clean, including toilets.
I would not go to a place that is dirty.
Call the germinator!
Here they get smilies:
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Can't see the germs. I don't believe in things I can't see. I have a real problem with electrons. I'll think positive if I stick my finger in a power outlet.
Oops, tried it.
Got zapped really bad!
They tell me it's because the holes alternate between positive and negative. Who knew?
no ..what i said ... tables with spilled liquid. ketchup, mustard .. crumbs ... i cannot tell you how many times 've had to take a napkin and brush off the stuff so i could sit down and eat ... sticky floors, wraqppers, etc etc. ...
Its great youse guys have never had the displeasure of being in a dirty restaurant. They exist..health department or not. much depends on how busy they are, what time of day you're there.
Yeah, having to wipe off a table (or seat) before sitting down always makes me mutter "pigs!" just loud enough that someone might hear me. Not often, but when it happens I have 5 minutes of really dark thoughts about the term "human nature". Is it too late to change species?
for sure
So that was you who’s been doing that... would you knock it off... it was funny the first two or six times, but now it’s getting old... Also, if that was you who switched out the Nutella... Good prank, but you didn’t get me... I got suspicious because of the corn.
Those were just clever diversions. You never even suspected the pudding. Bwa-ha-ha!!!
I think this is the most unappetizing thread on the forum!
In NC and can attest to it. Some years ago, I walked into a Boston Market and every table had a literal mountain of trash on it. It is impossible to overstate how much trash was inside that place. And there's a MC D's near me where they don't clean anything at the end of the day...the whole place stays filthy overnight until the cleaning person comes in in the morning.
Even new builds don't take long to get that "trashed" look. There's a Sheetz near me that's been open a little over a year, and the place is a constant pigstye, with equipment that's broken down more than once in that year.
And the health inspection scores are almost a joke. They get points for stupid stuff that has little to nothing to do with the condintions in the kitchen, so it's easier than it should be to get a passing score.
I went to a place last week ... there was rubbish everywhere, sure some of it was in bins, but some was piled up against the wall, there were liquid spills and newspapers that had gone yellow with age. The smell was not good and there were flies all around. I asked this one guy if I could get a burger, and he looked at me like I was from another planet, and said " No sir, this is a recycling centre."
In my country a restaurant like that would be closed since long!
This is why I think that set it's perfect as it is, I never saw a dirty and messy reastaurant.
wow
I live in the wrong place.
Along the interstate wehn driving, the rest stop restaurants are often horrible. Thats why the so clean product surprised me so much and I posted about it. Maybe many places have bad hygeine in the U.S.
All the McDonalds in this corner of NY State have been remodeled in the last couple years. The Burger Kings too. But the Tim Hortons invading from Canada are just overpopulating the area with big and little new sites
. Honestly. I really don't understand the attraction. Perhaps that's why the McDonalds and Burger Kings had to step up their game. The Wendy's are still plodding along, but are always clean and neat. It's my favorite fast-food place.
My only complaint with Wendy's is the noise in the kitchen. The noise while standing at the counter trying to order is actually physically painful to me.
Loud wide bandwidth clanging and banging and scratchy external takeout speaker, and yelling between kitchen staff and they always have tiny little girls at the cash register who timidly speak in a voice an octave above what I can hear.
Our conversation goes something like this: "Hi, I'd like a Four for $Four for here, and a double chilli with one hot sauce and two crackers to take out, and I get a free chocolate mini-Frosty with my keychain dongle". She says <something>. I say "What?". She repeats. I cup my hand around my ear and finally catch her speech more directly but we often go through this process twice. I complain about the kitchen noise. She nods in agreement. I also apologize that because she has a high voice I can't hear her well. But of course she can't do anything about her high voice except start talking in louder screeches which almost helps.
I finally get my food and quickly find a table as far away from the kitchen as I can.
Unlike our local McDonalds who has seen fit to reduce kitchen staff to 3 less than necessary to qualify as a FAST-food joint, the Wendy's has retained 3 more people than necessary but for some reason all need to talk to each other in loud voices to overcome the clanging and banging.
But since Wendy's is and has always been a single server queue it has never been a fast place when there are more than three people in line regardless of the number of people in the kitchen.
One has to time one's visit to Wendys to not coincide with lunch.
(A snippet of wisdom from an ancient one)
Here's a blast from the past: Back in the early '80s when Wendy's was still relatively new. We would go to one in Orlando where the trash cans were located in a closed cupboard out of sight and intimidatingly inaccessible to the public. A staff person was always in the dining room wiping your table as soon as you left and taking your trays to the cupboard, opening the doors, and dumping the trash. That level of service didn't last long.
Actually, Tim Horton's owns Burger King now, though it was one of those backwards acquisitions where part of the main goal of the bigger comapny (Burger King) was to change the country that they were based in.
That said, the proliferation of coffee chains like Starbucks and Horton's was definitely the reason McDs began putting free wifi in all their restaurants and added the McCafe items like Frappucinos, but the big motivator behind McD and the other's trying to spiff up is the wave of "higher end" burger places like the Shake Sack, SmashBurger and Five Guys chains, which are grabbing up a huge percentage of the market share by selling the perception of a superior product and an environment that isn't filled with rampaging children.
Whereas, in Texas, the news stations make a regular point of reading out the health violations out as a regular feature. Anyone who thinks that there's no such thing as bad publicity hasn't seen a restaurant report that highlights rat droppings, roaches and spoiled food. In Houston we had a famous advocate/newsperson named Marvin Zindler (yes, the very same guy who was portrayed as the 'villain' in the musical Best Little Whorehouse In Texas) whose constant refrain of "Slime in the ice machine!" became so iconic that it's now part of the general popular culture.
"Five Guys" restaurants.
We've got one here in the local (nearly defunct) mall. I tried it a couple times. Made the mistake of not saying "no fries" and actually ended up eating some. Oh, wow they were good.
But after the first 5 I knew I'd have a heart attack if I finished the rest of them. Five Guys is definately for the big eaters who don't mind dropping dead at 35. I hear that Five Guys fries can be wrapped on a stick and used as torches.
Rumor is that people hoard them for heating fuel in the winter.
And their burgers require a third hand to help support them during consumption.
Perhaps 40 years ago I could have gotten away with eating a full burger and order of fries there but now I'd need to get a doctor's permission slip before smelling while walking past the store.
I love Five Guys. I actually love the free complementary peanuts! Mmmm.
Also, as a diabetic, I appreciate that they have lettuce wrap burgers. In the past I haven't been a fan of them at other places, but at Five Guys I find the lettuce is, first, reasonably crisp but also that the lettuce helps offset how sloppy greasy the burgers are.
the floors must be slick
Um... what is missing?
Bathrooms.... or just the doorway to get to them. Jeesh. :)
What happens when that taco just goes right through me? :(
If I've ever been in a burger joint with all those issues, simultaneously, I haven't been in there long.
Still - a little normal wear would be good - one or two tables that hadn't been bussed yet, some floor debris... yeah, I can agree there.
One thing that's demonstrably better about Facebook and that forum software should have adopted almost immediately is the "like" button.
A lot of big city / metro / downtown restaurants don't have drive-throughs, though - there's just no place to put them unless you want to knock down a million-dollar building. Should have been an option, though. There's a door back behind the counter, but it's going to be a heck of a bottleneck - and there would probably be a pass-through window for orders.
I wonder - does the PA have a kitchen planned, or would that be a reasonable add-on for someone to make? I spent enough of my younger life back in those kitchens, I could probably remember how one goes. ;)
I'm guessing this establishment could be part of a larger structure where the restrooms are outside and down a hall from it... say if this place was built into a hotel building or a mall. I was in a diner that was maybe half the size of this place, inside a hotel building, and the bathrooms were outside and down a hall.
All this discussion, and not a single render?
I don’t own it so was curious too
i had it in my cart until i missed the rebate deal..and chucked it. I have several diner products that i dont use as it is., they're too clean too.