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Eva base version with long hair, HD version with short hair
Eva Let Your Hair Hang Down
Made with...
https://www.daz3d.com/gallery/#images/696631
I took a pass. I'm reaching saturation with pretty white chicks ;). On the upside, I did get some nice deals on some stuff I wanted, so it's all good :D.
Laurie
hmmm... the image above..she looks a lot like the last couple of females released... strong sisterhood going on.
I'm happy that the buy 1 get 3 pro bundle deal is back! I didn't even really want Eva 8, but got it anyway for the other bundles. I haven't downloaded her, but like many, I wasn't impressed with the promos. She does look orange in the first few pics, but the last few don't have that strong a hue. But, not only does she look orange, she looks like she was textured with the skin of an orange. That pitting effect in the skin looks like a dry lake bed dotted with rain drop scars. Again, that may just be from the poor promos...some even have hair jutting out of her ears!
sometimes they need to know why
I wanted Lee but he was just too dear, no stacking discounts with addons, no incentive because I owned everything on offer and only reward spending yet more on a gift card.
Eva I don't even want the character herself but bought as I got a load of stuff I did't yet own not offered with Lee and had a discount for buying the addons as well as more free bundles.
Can anyone who has bought Eva 8 be bothered to apply her skin to a different character (without smile lines / nasolabial folds) and post a facial render (no expression) so I can see if the folds are in Eva 8's texture or just her morph? If so, thank you!
'sometimes they need to know why'
Yeah, but how much does a forum post actually do that?
People say all sorts of things on forums that don't actually correlate to customer behavior.
Sometimes people are very positive about stuff that doesn't sell, and very often the complaints here are laid at the feet of very successful products. This isn't valuable customer feedback, it's people gathered around the water cooler chatting about cgi.
Personally, I'm much more interested in hearing what thrills people than nitpicking the latest Star Wars to death.
This right here. I look forward to hopping on the thread of the new character to see the renders people are making with them. It's great to see all the creativity and what people see with them doing, and many times it's made me decide okay, I want this character. Lately I hop on here hoping to see some cool renders and it's just like everything else on the Internet, constant complaining.
I don't think letting Daz know why we didn't buy something is a bad thing. If that comes off as complaining, then so be it. I don't see anything wrong in telling Daz that there's been too many white girls, not enough men, so I didn't buy. If this release HAD been an East Indian man or woman or a Native American man or woman, I would have bought it so fast it would make your head spin. People want what they want and there's no harm in telling them "this is what I would buy" or "this is why I DIDN'T buy".
Laurie
Wow, I really wasn't expecting Eva to make a come-back, to be honest. It seemed like she was the Stephanie stand-in for Gen 7, but then we got Stephanie herself back here. Then again, Eva did sell extremely well as many of the other Gen 7-exclusive women did.
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I wonder if she's getting a male partner this time around (though, to be honest, I paired her with Bethany as a subdle LGBT couple
I spent about 20 minutes searching around the store to figure out what hair is used in the main promo image of Eva 8.
Since when is it custom that hair used in the main promo images for DAZ3D Originals characters are NOT part of the bundle?
Eva 8 is advertised as a tough character wearing short hair but no such hair type can be found in the starter or pro bundle.
https://www.daz3d.com/eva-8-starter-bundle
https://www.daz3d.com/eva-8-pro-bundle
Instead the hair used in the main promo and the advertising e-mails was released several weeks ago and is not even on sale anymore.
https://www.daz3d.com/mrl-gem-hair-for-genesis-3-and-8-female
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I do understand that for "regular" characters it cannot be helped that hair is most likely not included and needs to purchased separately.
But for DAZ Originals characters my impression so far was:
"Purchase the starter or pro bundles and all the licensed products used to create the promo images are included."
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This is very missleading marketing and could be considered as a "shady" business practice.
Feedback submitted in ticket #286794
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I personally really like the new Eva. It's been a while since I liked this many of the items in a pro bundle, I am definitely picking up her and several of her addons. The free Gen8 bundle options make me think someone decided to make sure and exclude any of the ones I actually want, but I'm not going to argue about a free bundle.
People proclaim because it involves money. If you're selling a product and it doesn't stand up to expectation of course they're going to be complaints/feedback about it. That's a given. Look at the gaming industry fiasco going on with Fallout 76.
I agree. I haven't taken a look with all G8 bundles, but with the majority of G3 bundles what they showed in the main image of the PRO Bundle featured things that came in said bundle. Not only is the hair not included, but neither is that outfit. So that threw me off, because that outfit is much more interesting than the ones included in the bundle.
Edit: nevermind, I got confused between the main promo of the base and the main promo of the probundle.
If I recall correctly, on the Lee 8 thread it was page 6 before the first render of him arrived. Most of the complaints there though focused on the deal rather than the Lee 8 himself.
Possibly my favourite G3 character so was pleased to see her; on the fence. Great shape, but I have so many to simply load from purchases I've already made - never mind actually render.
And that seems to be the case here as well. I'm assuming that DAZ is running something on the order of a test to see just how much of an incentive they need to add to get people to go for the bundles rather than just the base character.
The bundles themselves are a bargain if you are basically still in the process of building your content library. They can be a bargain if you're a late adopter and are only just making the transition from gen3-gen4, or Genisis 1 or 2., to the post G3 figures. But if you've been picking up bundles over any appreciable length of time, then something extra is needed before you make the plunge -- unless you happen to fall in love with enough components in the bundle to leave "bargain" out of the reconning.
Speaking for myself; I like the morph, I'm not enthused about the skin. I like both of the hairs, but don't care for the clothes. So it's going to be a question of whether the add-on characters in the bundle will tip the scale to purchase the bundle rather than just the base and the hairs. (Pose packages are seldom an argument in favor of picking up the bundle for me. They're useful, but they don't constitute enough of an argument on their own if you don't do pin-ups.)
No more discussion of what should or shouldn't be posted, please.
I always seem to have a problem with the official Daz character promos and usually find that forum members do better renders than the official ones. Now I’m wondering if whoever does these promos is even a Daz employee. The character name is Alexandra, not Alessandra. Who is doing these promos???
Also it seems that if today’s promo for Eva 8 is one day only, either starting tomorrow Daz will lose a lot of potential sales or they will offer an even better deal which could lead to a plethora of complaints to CS. Not sure of their strategy on this one. I’m weirdly fascinated with Daz’s marketing strategy and find it educational in so many ways LOL.
The wording on the page feels a bit awkward to me, but here's what they are trying to say: Today, the Eva 8 Pro Bundle is a Debut item, and after today she will be a Still New product for two days. But for the purpose of the Eva 8 release promo, her Pro Bundle cannot be used as one of the two Still New releases to qualify for the two free Pro Bundles of previous generations. You will still need to buy the Pro Bundle and two other items to unlock those freebies.
The list of G8 pro bundles for the promo include all the named base figures released in 2017.
I agree the hair should’ve been part of the bundle as the hair is featured heavily in her promos and contributes to her signature look. I have wish listed the hair since it is not on sale.
Is this a case of comparing Evas to Oranges? :i
Yeah, I agree that while venting in the forums isn't the best option, it is frequently our only option of making opinhions heard at all unless we want to round up the torches and go find out what that scientist feller is doing at the old windmill. And bus fare for several hundred people to Utah is expensive. (Not mention that it means going to Utah. In winter. Ick.)
Besides, the internet was made for two things, and DAZ has banned one of those here, so we're stuck with the second, complaining. :) :)
Edit - Just saw that Richard has asked for no more discussion on this, so I'll just get in the time machine and prevent myself from writing it and... oh dang, the TM just vanished into a pool of improbability.along with that nice Mr. Ripper fellow...
And here is Eva 8 skin as rendered by P3D in their product https://www.daz3d.com/p3d-eva-8-morphs which looks totally different and much better than the original promos..
I'm sure that she'll look good under different lighting conditions, and possibly with some tweaking via something like Altern8. Its not a *bad* skin, but the promos are certainly doing it no favors.
I'm a little annoyed that I have to hunt to find promos that actually show the skin without burying it under a lot of improbable makeup. But since the vendors clearly consider the makeup the selling point, I'm definitely in the minority there.
I do hope that we start getting some user-level renders. Those do tend to give everyone a better idea f what they can actually do with a given figure.
Interestingly enough I did not get a purple banner. And I own quite a few of the generation 8 bundles.
Exactly why I purchased her too. I couldn't justify the price tag on Lee 8, although I was FAR more interested in him than I am in Eva 8. I don't dislike her, and I did pick up a different male bundle with this deal, but if they would have had this deal for Lee 8 I would have snagged him immediately. I do like a lot of the stuff in the pro bundle so it won't go to waste, and since i have all the clothing converters, the previous generation pro bundles are worth getting at this point, especially for free.
Edited to add, 47 products for $56 is a pretty darn good deal..especially since I do like 98% of what I'm getting and can use the rest regardless.
Ha! So true.
@Wonderland
Nice render.
Makeup and tattoos! You have a lot of vendors vying for the same customers to purchase what amounts to, essentially, the same thing. What really differentiates one from another is the skin and what you can put on the skin, i.e. makeup and tattoos. That's not to say the morphs aren't important, just that when a customer is trying to decide between two characters, what sways them in one direction or the other? So more makeup options and/or tattoo options seem to make sense.
Like you, @JOdel, I'm in the minority. I find myself choosing not to buy when the makeup options are no makeup, or "applied with a trowel," as my mother would say. And if a character has tattoos, you can be assured if I buy it, it's in spite of the ink, not because of it. I usually purchase characters like that when they are deeply discounted, if at all.
It's actually pretty amazing to me how often I render the gals with no makeup at all.
But getting back to Eva. I've fired up The Beast and hope to do a quick render or two. I'll post those here when I finish.