Daz Install Manager (DIM) 1.2.0.6, Now Available!

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  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,838
    edited January 2019

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    had my questions answered elswhere.  One thing I notice, this new version is faster.

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  • kyoto kid said:

    ...[edited]

    had my questions answered elswhere.  One thing I notice, this new version is faster.

    That was one of the changes, yes - though the old version would pretty much use my full bandwidth anyway.

  • L'AdairL'Adair Posts: 9,479

    It's been years since I needed to install DIM on a computer. Does it require being manually downloaded and installed, or will it automatically do that the first time you click on the "Download & Install" button for a product listed in the Product Library. Specifically, for someone new to Daz Studio, will clicking on the "Download & Install" button for Daz Studio install DIM first?

    I don't have a computer without DIM to test this on.
    sad

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 107,883
    L'Adair said:

    It's been years since I needed to install DIM on a computer. Does it require being manually downloaded and installed, or will it automatically do that the first time you click on the "Download & Install" button for a product listed in the Product Library. Specifically, for someone new to Daz Studio, will clicking on the "Download & Install" button for Daz Studio install DIM first?

    I don't have a computer without DIM to test this on.
    sad

    You have to download and install DIM manually first, it then sets up the association that allows Download and Install to work for content.

  • L'AdairL'Adair Posts: 9,479

    Thank you.

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,838
    edited March 2019

    ....DIM is not recognising my sign on for some ridiculous reason.  I have not changed any settings so I am not sure why this is happening. I do not want to go through password recovery because that means i have to come up with and remember a new password for the main site as well and being dyslexic with memory lapses, that tends to be a real challenge. 

    The really annoying part about this is I had no trouble using the DIM to download products the other day.

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    Update:

    Well finally got it to take my sign in and now I've been sitting for the last ten minutes or so watching the progress monitor scroll ad nauseam with nothing showing in the Ready to Download tab.

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  • That is usually a server error. I would contact CS and see if they can shed some light on the issue.
  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,838
    edited March 2019

    ..OK now I get only 54 items showing.  This is ridiculous as I still have a lot of products to download and install after the crash..I've been doing it by category so I can set up my custom runtimes properly.

    I should have a total of over 3,300 items between what I have installed have pending to install, and yet to download. Instead what the DIM tells me is I only have about one tenth that, and a number of recent purchases are not showing at all.

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    Update:

    Think I may have found the cause.  For some reason my connectivity keeps being interrupted for a few moments.  Apparently when a drop out occurs, I either get just a partial list ot items or the DIM resets and starts all over again  Both emailed and called my ISP provider but it being a Sunday, I don't expect this will get fixed any time soon.

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  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,838
    edited March 2019

    ...OK the connectivity issue has been resolved. Now when I went to install another batch of Daz content, the only folder on D: that shows up as a target in the DIM for installation is "D:/Daz3D/Studio 3" There is no "Daz3D/ Studio 4" folder on D: like I used to have before the HDD meltdown.  "Studio 3" is the Poser runtime setup for version 3.1, not the Daz Studio 4.x library.  I already installed a bunch of content earlier but now notice tat also were routed to the Poser runtime structure so am having to uninstall all of that (lost a lot of "ground" setting things up). I do not want to install to C: as that is a small drive just for booting up and installation of the base programmes.

    I've also seen a few items (for LAMH) that were written to the C:/Documents folder which I never use as again that is on a small drive.

    I am not about manually install almost 4,500 products.

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  • Create a Daz3D/ Studio 4 folder (or whatever you want) on the D drive, and add it as an installation path in DIM on the Installation tab. Then just switch between the paths as required when installing content. Just make sure that Show Details is checked on the Ready to Install tab.

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,838

    ..thanks it was seven years ago when I originally set all this up.  Been though a bit of "headbanging" since then (literally) and I just seem to have forgot how I did it.  Didn't remember it was that simple.

    Sadly, after uninstalling everything from the incorrect runtime folder, I have to re download it all again first, that will take time and is something I would prefer to do overnight so I'm not tying up system resources from things I need to do during the day.

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,838

    ...OK this is stupid.  Went to download a few additional items to the Install Tab and it overwrote all 574 products I had downloaded last night. What gives?  It should just add the new downloads to the rest of the downloaded products instead of delete everything that was there. This is beginning to get more and more discouraging as it goes.

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 107,883
    kyoto kid said:

    ...OK this is stupid.  Went to download a few additional items to the Install Tab and it overwrote all 574 products I had downloaded last night. What gives?  It should just add the new downloads to the rest of the downloaded products instead of delete everything that was there. This is beginning to get more and more discouraging as it goes.

    Had you chnaged the Package Archive location? Are you sure you weren't in the wrong tab, selected all, and clicked process queue?

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,838
    edited March 2019

    ...was in the Downloads tab. Been selecting content by basic grouping (like "Genesis" "Victoria 5" etc).

    Also how do you tell before downloading which items go to the Daz 4+ Library and which goes into the older Poser Runtime setup?  I have the Download filter set just to Daz 4.5+ yet I still see a lot of older content and even some Poser CF files in the listings.

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  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,838
    edited March 2019

    ...OK here is the whole setup.

    1. Individual Download FIlter {selected (Daz Studio 4.5+) notice older "pre-Daz Studio 4" products showing in the Downlad Tab even though just this filter was applied).

    2. The Daz3D folder/directory setup I am using (based on the original setup I had)

    3: New Daz product downloaded under the 4.5+ filter showing install path for package files

    4. Older Daz product downloaded under the 4.5+ filter showing install path for package files

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    I would think that using the 4.5+ filter only newer Daz content that only which installed to the Daz3D Studio4/Library/Data/[...] path would appear in the Download tab.

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  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 107,883
    kyoto kid said:
    I would think that using the 4.5+ filter only newer Daz content that only which installed to the Daz3D Studio4/Library/Data/[...] path would appear in the Download tab.

    Poser content is still, potentially, compatible with DS 4.5. Just add the "Ds 4.5" content directory as a Poser format content directory.

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,838

    ..you did see the second image which shows how my setup is arranged. 

    Normally I would expect any content that has the install path of Content/Runtime.[...] would go into the Studio3 folder as that version only used the old Poser setup while content with th install path of Content/Data/[...] would go in the Studio4/Library folder.  I would think installing content with the Content/Runtime.[...] path to the Studio4/Library folder would mess things up royally as the tree structure is completely different.

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 107,883
    kyoto kid said:

    ..you did see the second image which shows how my setup is arranged. 

    Normally I would expect any content that has the install path of Content/Runtime.[...] would go into the Studio3 folder as that version only used the old Poser setup while content with th install path of Content/Data/[...] would go in the Studio4/Library folder.  I would think installing content with the Content/Runtime.[...] path to the Studio4/Library folder would mess things up royally as the tree structure is completely different.

    The two content types can use the same directory - they do, by default (the My Daz 3D Library folder). Just make sure the same folder is selected for both Poser Formats and Daz Studio Formats.

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,838

    ...yeah, but that wasn't the case when I first st my system up as again all the older content I installed with the Winows Bitrock installers and went to the Poser Runtime structure (Studio3) not the Daz 4+ library one.  

  • jestmartjestmart Posts: 4,449

    You could change the default path in the bitrock installer.  You have never been forced to use the default install locations.

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,838

    ...however changing the location could create path errors for the other components that also fall under the Runtime structure. 

    Again, the Daz4+ Library setup is different from the Poser one.  If the Geometries go into the Data folder, the product likely won't load.

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 107,883

    DS uses relative paths, s as long as your content diectories are correctly set adding or renaming or moving tem should not be problematic. You don't move things within the folder, such as Runtime/Geometrues to Data, just add the "Ds 4.5" location as a Poser content directory too - so it appears in both lists.

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,838
    edited March 2019

    ...why not just use the setup I have?  Poser runtime content goes into the Studio3 folder (I still use that version for plugins which no longer are supported), and anything that is newer which uses "Data" instead of "Geometries" folder for the base mesh goes into Studio4. 

    The reason I did not run into these questions before was because like I mentioned, I didn't use the DIM for most of the installs and all that archived content still used the old Poser Runtime format from Studio 3 (and earlier) so I was fine just letting the Bitrock .exe install to its default location as that was the way it was on my previous system.  I had no idea that there would be a change for newer content until I had issues with the programme finding it, because I installed it to the Poser runtime by mistake.

    Recovering from the HD meltdown has cost more time than it should of

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  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 107,883
    kyoto kid said:

    ...why not just use the setup I have?  Poser runtime content goes into the Studio3 folder (I still use that version for plugins which no longer are supported), and anything that is newer which uses "Data" instead of "Geometries" folder for the base mesh goes into Studio4. 

    The reason I did not run into these questions before was because like I mentioned, I didn't use the DIM for most of the installs and all that archived content still used the old Poser Runtime format from Studio 3 (and earlier) so I was fine just letting the Bitrock .exe install to its default location as that was the way it was on my previous system.  I had no idea that there would be a change for newer content until I had issues with the programme finding it, because I installed it to the Poser runtime by mistake.

    Recovering from the HD meltdown has cost more time than it should of

    You can use the set-up you have if you tell DIM to isntall to the right folders, but that's going to be moe fiddle than simply installing all to the Studio 4 content and just adding it as a Poser Format Content Dierctory. It's your choice of lesser evil/inconvenience.

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,838

    ...but again, the Studio4 folder doesn't use the Poser Runtime structure which much of the older content specifies. How is that going to work?  If a "Geometries" file ends up in the "Data" folder that would likely create an error. 

    I'm not big on how databases are built so not about to go messing around with it, this is just what I have known form from past experiences with this programme.

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 107,883

    The folder st5ructure is ceated by DIM - installing the Poser-format content will create the /Runtime/Geometries folder, adding the content directory to the Poser formats list will enable DS to find the files.

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,838

    ...you sure?

  • LeanaLeana Posts: 12,735
    kyoto kid said:

    ...but again, the Studio4 folder doesn't use the Poser Runtime structure which much of the older content specifies.

    The studio 4 folder is just a folder, the Runtime structure itself comes from the content you install. DIM will create all needed folders from the content zip file in the target folder when installing if they’re not there already, it doesn’t need those to exist prior install.

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 107,883
    kyoto kid said:

    ...you sure?

    Sure

  • WonderlandWonderland Posts: 7,133
    edited April 2019

    Everything I purchased yesterday is showing up in the greyed out Install section (a combination of newer content and older Genesis content in the freebies section.)  I uninstalled it all and reinstalled and it still shows up grey as do random previous purchases that refuse to install through DIM... The log says "error reading metadata file"

    Edited to say that finally after uninstalling and reinstalling and restarting both DIM and DS the new stuff finally installed but there are several that never did for many months and still grey like Oso Master Shaders1, Inked 14, Z Alice in Wonderland Poses, High Scholl Classroom, SS Garden Gazebo, Hipster Outfit for G8M, Nerdy Guy Hair, Tara 2 HD, DMR Moon Cult and many more. I've uninstalled and reinstalled those a gazillion times and can't get them to install...

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