OT Update 2: Nvidia & AMD about to lose a lot of sales from cryptominers?

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  • DiomedeDiomede Posts: 15,388

    Similarly, in the US, some of the people with tech backgrounds foolishly think that what they are doing is tech, not finance and securities.  They think that having a ledger to record and track transactions is new because of the tech they are using to encrypt the information, or the medium used to access the ledger, or the database software hosted on the ledger.  It is like saying money transfer is new because we use fiber optic lines instead of telegraph lines.  Note I said some people, not all.  If the losses mount, the fools better have very good lawyers to explain themseves before the powers that be.    

    https://www.sec.gov/news/public-statement/enforcement-tm-statement-potentially-unlawful-online-platforms-trading

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  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,723

    And why I refuse to participate in cryptocurrurencies, it's not like it wasn't already common knowlege these schemes are being used to money launder proceeds from criminal activity.

  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,723

    From a site called news.bitcoin.com and that tries to inject my site with a notification allowance from future updates of news.bitcoin.com? Conflict of interest as they have a vested interest in claiming all is rosy in the cryptocurrency world. Comes a time when you have to cut your losses and recognize all that report the news are interested in reporting their 'own take' on the news to help enhance their own profits. Read accordingly, if you have that much free time.

  • bluejauntebluejaunte Posts: 1,990

    From a site called news.bitcoin.com and that tries to inject my site with a notification allowance from future updates of news.bitcoin.com? Conflict of interest as they have a vested interest in claiming all is rosy in the cryptocurrency world. Comes a time when you have to cut your losses and recognize all that report the news are interested in reporting their 'own take' on the news to help enhance their own profits. Read accordingly, if you have that much free time.

    Merely trying to be neutral.  I'm not invested in bitcoin in any way. There are plenty of anti bitcoin interests around too though. And you know how it goes, news like that spreads and is repeated ad infinitum by news channels who have no concept whatsoever about the technology or even the slightest concept of what they just reported, especially when it comes to techy stuff.

  • ImagoImago Posts: 5,658
    edited March 2018

    If you look online you can find big, VERY big names saying the images were there... And their name isn't Bitcoin.com! devil

    Anyway, as Diomede said, cryptocurrencies aren't new to this kind of "bahaviour"...

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  • bluejauntebluejaunte Posts: 1,990
    Imago said:

    If you look online you can find big, VERY big names saying the images were there... And their name isn't Bitcoin.com! devil

    Anyway, as Diomede said, cryptocurrencies aren't new to this kind of "bahaviour"...

    Well, there's child porn all over the internet. Are we asking for the internet to get deleted because of it? At least that is a line of argument I can somewhat follow. It is the latest anti-crypto outrage.

    But who knows, maybe we'll be lucky (from a video card availability point of view, to get back on topic) and this will actually really hurt crypto. Still, I can't say it would be very fair just because some people abuse a system as they always do, to judge a whole technology because of it.

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,851
    Greymom said:

    As of this morning, Newegg has a much larger selection of in-stock 1070s and 1080s than they did a couple of weeks ago.  Prices still inflated, but they have dropped for some cards. : )

    Also an interesting development:   the NVIDIA site does not have "Notify" buttons anymore for specific products, just "out of stock",,,,

    ...maybe they decided to stop direct selling of the Pascal series all together in preparation for hyping the next generation.

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,851
    edited March 2018

    ...and just shortly after I wrote the above I got two emails from Nvidia mentioning that 1070s and 1070 Ti's will be back in stock.

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  • agent unawaresagent unawares Posts: 3,513
    edited March 2018

    Asserting that there is child pornography on the blockchain would be like strolling through the U.S. Capitol Building, dropping a scrap of paper containing a deep web address, and then claiming that the American government is storing obscene content.

    Not an unbiased source, but that's basically the equivalent of what happened, yeah.

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  • GazukullGazukull Posts: 96
    edited March 2018

    You know, if you really needed something and your piggy bank was broke, you can get an M2090 for like 85 bux on ebay all day every day.

    Here you can see one of my boxes with one... with my super elegant cooling solution.  I stuck two 120mm fans just resting on top.  

    I mean... it isn't a 1080ti.  But it is certainly faster than any CPU.  6 GB RAM...  

    They do burn incredably hot and will catch your system on fire if you think that the passive cooler is good enough.

    lol

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  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,851

    ...according reviews I looked at I they mention there are no video outputs on the 2000 series Teslas. Also at 250w with no fans they are definitely "system cookers". Furthermore, as I recall Nvidia is discontinuing Iray support for Fermi cards.

  • GazukullGazukull Posts: 96

    Yeah, it just sits in there and renders.  I mean, my TITAN X's just sit and render too, I use the integrated graphics to push monitors.  

    As for discontinuing Fermi support, well that would be a downer.  But I will cry about when it happens.

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,851

    ..so how do you know when it is finished?

  • KitsumoKitsumo Posts: 1,221

    Possible good news on the horizon: Micron bets that memory demand is here to stay The article doesn't mention it, but Micron makes GDDR RAM, so hopefully, they'll produce more and help bring prices down.

    Apple, Samsung and their cronies are buying up all the DRAM for their new line of smartphones. Sure it's a different type of memory, but if the chipmakers are shifting production from GDDR to produce more DRAM for phones, that hurts us.

  • GazukullGazukull Posts: 96
    kyoto kid said:

    ..so how do you know when it is finished?

    Wat?  LOL.  I don't understand the question.  I just look at the DS interface?

  • TavTav Posts: 46
    kyoto kid said:

    ..so how do you know when it is finished?

    Mainboards have video outputs too.

  • GreymomGreymom Posts: 1,139
    edited March 2018

    Received email yesterday that NVIDIA would have 1080ti's and 1070ti's in stock today.....been checking regularly, nothing yet...may have missed the 4.2 nanoseconds they were in stock.

    Anybody have any luck?

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  • Oso3DOso3D Posts: 15,085

    Reminds me of trying to get concert tickets...

     

  • GreymomGreymom Posts: 1,139
    edited March 2018
    Oso3D said:

    Reminds me of trying to get concert tickets...

     

    Yes!   Maybe I would have more luck if I wore one of my '80s concert shirts and camped out in front of my computer.....  Hey, does Ticketmaster have anything to do with this?

    Hmmmmm.   Blondie, Pat Benetar, Aerosmith, Heart, Fleetwood Mac....Wait, maybe I should pick based on which one fits...these shirts always seem to shrink while hanging in the closet.

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  • Oso3DOso3D Posts: 15,085

    Outside NVIDIA headquarters...

     

  • GreymomGreymom Posts: 1,139
    Oso3D said:

    Outside NVIDIA headquarters...

     

    yes  Soon it will be torches and pitchforks!

     

  • BradCarstenBradCarsten Posts: 856

    So I read that Cyril Ramaphosa, the South African president is floating the idea of having a single currency throughout Africa that's based on cryptocurrency, an African Bitcoin if you like, that I would imagine is actually backed by something other than demand. Can you imagine what that would do to mining and GPU prices. 

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,851
    Gazukull said:
    kyoto kid said:

    ..so how do you know when it is finished?

    Wat?  LOL.  I don't understand the question.  I just look at the DS interface?

    ...but do you actually get a "render window" (as the card has no video output) or just the progress monitor?

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,851
    Greymom said:

    Received email yesterday that NVIDIA would have 1080ti's and 1070ti's in stock today.....been checking regularly, nothing yet...may have missed the 4.2 nanoseconds they were in stock.

    Anybody have any luck?

    ...nothing here, just "Out of Stock" for everything.

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,851
    Greymom said:
    Oso3D said:

    Outside NVIDIA headquarters...

     

    yes  Soon it will be torches and pitchforks!

     

    ...yes

  • GazukullGazukull Posts: 96
    kyoto kid said:
    Gazukull said:
    kyoto kid said:

    ..so how do you know when it is finished?

    Wat?  LOL.  I don't understand the question.  I just look at the DS interface?

    ...but do you actually get a "render window" (as the card has no video output) or just the progress monitor?

    There is no relationship between seeing a render window and video outputs on a video card.  DS works exactly how DS always works.

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,851

    ...however for the card to generate an active render window on screen it needs some kind of video connection doesn't it?

  • HavosHavos Posts: 5,577
    kyoto kid said:

    ...however for the card to generate an active render window on screen it needs some kind of video connection doesn't it?

    There needs to be some sort of video connection on the PC doing the rendering, or your screen will be blank, but that does not have to come from the GPU that is helping out the render.

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