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  • Charlie JudgeCharlie Judge Posts: 13,395
    Mistara said:

    suffolk county cancelled bus service today.  yayeah

    time to start winter storm luau party  

    hula hula

    So, if bus service is cancelled, don't you have to get work anyway?

  • EtriganEtrigan Posts: 603
    kyoto kid said:

    ...windows complaint.

    So yesterday evening when I opened Task Manager to track useage while rendering a scene, all I got was the main window that showed what programmes were running with no tabs to check processes or performance. Did a restart, that didn't work, did a full shutdown and start up, and that didn't work.  Not sure what happened as on the Administrator login it works the way it is supposed to, just not my user one. I didn't change any preference settings that would have caused this either.  Not sure how to fix it.

    If it's the same problem I had, it's as simple as clicking the "Details" button at the bottom of the window. It took me nearly 10 minutes to realize that button meant something. 

     

     

  • DanaTADanaTA Posts: 13,361

    With no car, storm on the way, and I think she said it's a few miles to work, I think it's a snow day.

    Dana

  • LeatherGryphonLeatherGryphon Posts: 12,220
    edited March 2018
    NVIATWAS said:
    kyoto kid said:

    ...the college I went to had a text rental system, very economical, and you could buy the books if you wanted them at a reduced cost. I picked up both the first and second year theory books as well as third year counterpoint.  Worked through the two theory books in less than a term on my own and was getting into the counterpoint one by the second. Thus in the major I tended to skip class (save for exams and exercises) because I already knew and worked on the subject material.  Completed all the homework assignments, exams, and exercises with very high marks but my final grade got dinged on attendance.

    Ugh on getting dinged.  Cool on teaching yourself theory!!!!

    I ended up teaching myself basic theory.  Despite having piano lessons (from a neighbor) from the age of 7 until 15 all I learned was how to read notes & move fingers to the right spot on the keyboard.  No serious emphasis on scales, very little on chords, and totally ignorant of composition styles.  Nice lady but no real music background but she was cheap and available.  I ended up just a frustrated amateur.

    After college and eventually when I had an apartment of my own I retrieved my old spinet piano from home and started relearning.  I practiced scales, I figured out chords, I re-invented the circle-of-fifths and made my own design for a musical sliderule with all sorts of cyclic music information on it for quick reference and for easy transposing.   I worked my way up through better and better pianos, I began to make my own music instead of mimicing what other people had written down.  I never got very far with my own music but I was able to show off a few times.  However, my real skill still lay in being able to play what other people wrote down. Beethoven, Schubert, Mozart, Chopin, Saint-saens, Rachmaninoff, Ravel, etc.   I have no training at all of composition and structure and I was never was able to play an entire piano concerto but with persistence I came close with the Saint-Saens Piano concerto #4, playing most of of the 1st movement and about half of the 2nd movement (no 3rd movement in this concerto unless you count the transition at 19:21).  And without an orchestra to play along with me I played the melodies of the orchestra parts when the piano parts were simply accompanyment to the orchestra.  I attempted all 5 of Saint-saens' piano concertos and knew small parts of all of them.  I loved them.  He wrote for piano the way I liked to play piano.  Lots of arpeggios and bouncing chords. yes

    I think that if I'd had a better piano teacher at the beginning, I might have gone another direction in my life.  Now, it's just a fond memory.

    Saint-saens: Piano Concerto #4: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hd5tyvpTHqU   

    0:00 --- Kind of a strange beginning

    4:37 --- nice arpeggios

    5:25 --- flutes introduce the main theme that comes to fruition on the piano later on at 19:21

    7:45 --- variations on the theme. 

    9:46 --- delightful arpeggios

    10:54 --- gentle restatement of the theme and soft closing of the 1st movement

    12:15 --- Beginning of 2nd movement.  (sort of an early 1920's feel to the music at the beginning)

    13:25 --- Sort of a jumping  rhythmic dance

    17:40 --- Restatement of the main theme in a mournful mood, building to a climax just before the clear presentation of the main theme which up to this time has been only peeking out now and then and heavily disguised.

    19:21 thru 20:29 --- Clear, unambiguous aggressive statement of the main theme in single notes by the piano, which the orchestra then echoes while the piano accompanies with chords (I don't particularly care for how this pianist plays the accompaniment here.  It seems sloppy and out of sync  Phillipe Entremont does it much better.  But I admit, it's very difficult to get right.  I never did.).    The single note statement of the theme comes in two parts separated by the orchestra restatements.  But the two simple piano sections cover every note but one in the octave by subtle arrangement of key shifts without sounding discordant.  I love that melody and to this day still whistle it or hear it in my head. yes  dum-dum-de-dum,  da-dum-da-de-dum-dum,   dum-dum-de-dum-de-dum-da-da-de-dum .... blush

    21:20 --- Orchestra picks up the main theme and plays it in full grand style.  Then the piano continues to play the main theme in ever increasingly complicated and more grand variations as it comes to the finale along with the orchestra.  Marvelous arpeggios throughout.  Grand chords.  Dynamic finish.

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  • NVIATWASNVIATWAS Posts: 1,242
    NVIATWAS said:
    kyoto kid said:

    ...the college I went to had a text rental system, very economical, and you could buy the books if you wanted them at a reduced cost. I picked up both the first and second year theory books as well as third year counterpoint.  Worked through the two theory books in less than a term on my own and was getting into the counterpoint one by the second. Thus in the major I tended to skip class (save for exams and exercises) because I already knew and worked on the subject material.  Completed all the homework assignments, exams, and exercises with very high marks but my final grade got dinged on attendance.

    Ugh on getting dinged.  Cool on teaching yourself theory!!!!

    I ended up teaching myself basic theory.  Despite having piano lessons (from a neighbor) from the age of 7 until 15 all I learned was how to read notes & move fingers to the right spot on the keyboard.  No serious emphasis on scales, very little on chords, and totally ignorant of composition styles.  Nice lady but no real music background but she was cheap and available.  I ended up just a frustrated amateur.

    After college and eventually when I had an apartment of my own I retrieved my old spinet piano from home and started relearning.  I practiced scales, I figured out chords, I re-invented the circle-of-fifths and made my own design for a musical sliderule with all sorts of cyclic music information on it for quick reference and for easy transposing.   I worked my way up through better and better pianos, I began to make my own music instead of mimicing what other people had written down.  I never got very far with my own music but I was able to show off a few times.  However, my real skill still lay in being able to play what other people wrote down. Beethoven, Schubert, Mozart, Chopin, Saint-saens, Rachmaninoff, Ravel, etc.   I have no training at all of composition and structure and I was never was able to play an entire piano concerto but with persistence I came close with the Saint-Saens Piano concerto #4, playing most of of the 1st movement and about half of the 2nd movement (no 3rd movement in this concerto unless you count the transition at 19:21).  And without an orchestra to play along with me I played the melodies of the orchestra parts when the piano parts were simply accompanyment to the orchestra.  I attempted all 5 of Saint-saens' piano concertos and knew small parts of all of them.  I loved them.  He wrote for piano the way I liked to play piano.  Lots of arpeggios and bouncing chords. yes

    I think that if I'd had a better piano teacher at the beginning, I might have gone another direction in my life.  Now, it's just a fond memory.

    Saint-saens: Piano Concerto #4: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hd5tyvpTHqU   

    0:00 --- Kind of a strange beginning

    4:37 --- nice arpeggios

    5:25 --- flutes introduce the main theme that comes to fruition on the piano later on at 19:21

    7:45 --- variations on the theme. 

    9:46 --- delightful arpeggios

    10:54 --- gentle restatement of the theme and soft closing of the 1st movement

    12:15 --- Beginning of 2nd movement.  (sort of an early 1920's feel to the music at the beginning)

    13:25 --- Sort of a jumping  rhythmic dance

    17:40 --- Restatement of the main theme in a mournful mood, building to a climax just before the clear presentation of the main theme which up to this time has been only peeking out now and then and heavily disguised.

    19:21 thru 20:29 --- Clear, unambiguous aggressive statement of the main theme in single notes by the piano, which the orchestra then echoes while the piano accompanies with chords (I don't particularly care for how this pianist plays the accompaniment here.  It seems sloppy and out of sync  Phillipe Entremont does it much better.  But I admit, it's very difficult to get right.  I never did.).    The single note statement of the theme comes in two parts separated by the orchestra restatements.  But the two simple piano sections cover every note but one in the octave by subtle arrangement of key shifts without sounding discordant.  I love that melody and to this day still whistle it or hear it in my head. yes  dum-dum-de-dum,  da-dum-da-de-dum-dum,   dum-dum-de-dum-de-dum-da-da-de-dum .... blush

    21:20 --- Orchestra picks up the main theme and plays it in full grand style.  Then the piano continues to play the main theme in ever increasingly complicated and more grand variations as it comes to the finale along with the orchestra.  Marvelous arpeggios throughout.  Grand chords.  Dynamic finish.

    Inever got far with classical piano.  I had six months of classical piano lessons, my goal piece was the first movement of the Moonlight Sonata and the teacherliterally told me I had no hope of learning it. :-/ Despite that, I managed to bash my wat about 3/4 through before classes ended.  I love 'Moonlight', my fave piano piece.  The lessons improved my synth playing incredibly so it was worth the time.  I still prefer guitar,but keys are my second best instrument.

    Given that I compose ambient/soundscape and cinematic, there's not much use for guitar right now... :-|

  • NVIATWASNVIATWAS Posts: 1,242

    It's time for COLD PIZZA AND DIET PEPSI!! Wheeeeeeeeeeeee!!!

    Later on, will break out the wodka and diet Coke whilst watching cooking shows. Good times!

  • LeatherGryphonLeatherGryphon Posts: 12,220
    edited March 2018

    Piano was the only instrument I made any real progress with.  I could make noises on the violin, flute and guitar and flub through a short piece of music but not really play it.  Not even organ.  I tried to play the organ like a piano and that just doesn't work. sad.  Whole different style of playing.  But piano made me happy and I could let loose.  But I have't even touched one in the last 10 years. sad

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  • TJohnTJohn Posts: 11,352
    NVIATWAS said:
    ps1borg said:

    So hungry would trade body parts for pizza right now complaint ;0

    Too bad we don't have transporter tech or I'd send you some of mine... :-/

    Pizza or body parts? o.O

  • GoggerGogger Posts: 2,507

    grumble-grumble mumble-mumble.

  • GoggerGogger Posts: 2,507

    I need four more posts to break into the 700 Club and I can't think of anything else to complain about. GRRR! I HATE being so limited!

     

  • agent unawaresagent unawares Posts: 3,513

    I tried to play the organ like a piano and that just doesn't work. sad.  Whole different style of playing.

    Trying to play an organ while being used to piano is trippy.

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 42,104
    Etrigan said:
    kyoto kid said:

    ...windows complaint.

    So yesterday evening when I opened Task Manager to track useage while rendering a scene, all I got was the main window that showed what programmes were running with no tabs to check processes or performance. Did a restart, that didn't work, did a full shutdown and start up, and that didn't work.  Not sure what happened as on the Administrator login it works the way it is supposed to, just not my user one. I didn't change any preference settings that would have caused this either.  Not sure how to fix it.

    If it's the same problem I had, it's as simple as clicking the "Details" button at the bottom of the window. It took me nearly 10 minutes to realize that button meant something. 

     

     

    ..got it, thanks  Didn't see a button but just clicked on the bottom corner to expand the window and all the tabs came back. 

  • NVIATWASNVIATWAS Posts: 1,242

    Piano was the only instrument I made any real progress with.  I could make noises on the violin, flute and guitar and flub through a short piece of music but not really play it.  Not even organ.  I tried to play the organ like a piano and that just doesn't work. sad.  Whole different style of playing.  But piano made me happy and I could let loose.  But I have't even touched one in the last 10 years. sad

    Awww. :-( I hope you get to play again someday. :-(

  • NVIATWASNVIATWAS Posts: 1,242
    Tjohn said:
    NVIATWAS said:
    ps1borg said:

    So hungry would trade body parts for pizza right now complaint ;0

    Too bad we don't have transporter tech or I'd send you some of mine... :-/

    Pizza or body parts? o.O

    Pizza, of course.  I'm already missing body parts, can't lose more. :-/

  • NVIATWASNVIATWAS Posts: 1,242
    Gogger said:

    grumble-grumble mumble-mumble.

    It's a great day to grumble
    And to wobble and bumble
    Over steps you may stumble
    But always stay humble
    Just try not to fumble!!!

  • NVIATWASNVIATWAS Posts: 1,242

    I tried to play the organ like a piano and that just doesn't work. sad.  Whole different style of playing.

    Trying to play an organ while being used to piano is trippy.

    Organ is a completely different beast...

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 42,104
    edited March 2018

    Piano was the only instrument I made any real progress with.  I could make noises on the violin, flute and guitar and flub through a short piece of music but not really play it.  Not even organ.  I tried to play the organ like a piano and that just doesn't work. sad.  Whole different style of playing.  But piano made me happy and I could let loose.  But I have't even touched one in the last 10 years. sad

    ...indeed since the organ has no sustain mechanism like a piano (save for some makes of cinema organ).  Once you remove your hands form the keys and feet from the pedals the sound stops.  Same for the harpsichord, though Pleyel, a known maker of fine pianos in Paris (Chopin's preferred builder) developed a harpsichord with independent dampers, a heavy piano like case, and metal frame that looked more like a dual keyboard piano than the delicate instrument of the 16th - 18th centuries. 

    Holding notes on the keys on an organ or harpsichord to play smooth legato chord changes meant knowing how to do "substitutions" which effectively involves changing fingers on the same key while it is still held down.  A similar technique is used on the pedals of the organ with the feet.  In large cathedrals with long delay (what is called a "wet" acoustic environment) one can "get away" with having to do little substitution as there is enough reverberative "blur" to cover the transition between notes.  In fact, a lot of organ music from the French romantic era was very pianistic in style and has been found to involve more articulation and tempo rubato than originally thought (one of my former organ instructors is also a scholar on 18th and 19th century French organ music and stressed using a more pianistic technique).

    In drier acoustic settings, substitution is necessary so it doesn't sound like everything is being played in détaché style (for example Cesar Franck's Cantabile requires extremely smooth transitions between chords in the left hand).

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  • LeatherGryphonLeatherGryphon Posts: 12,220
    Gogger said:

    grumble-grumble mumble-mumble.

    Ah, a generic complaint. yes

  • LeatherGryphonLeatherGryphon Posts: 12,220
    edited March 2018

    To finish up my blathering about music for today, I found a YouTube of Phillipe Entremont playing the 2nd movement of Saint-Saens 4th piano concerto.  His treatment of the piano chords played during the 2nd movement's clear statement of the main theme is both better played and better recorded, it doesn't overpower the orchestra and isn't out of phase with the orchestra. He has a good feel for how those chords should fit in at that point.  Very simple couple of measures of music but very difficult to play well.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=du9aGwl6am8  See the minute and a half section between 1:39 and 2:50  IMHO this is a much better performance than the one I linked to previously.

    Post edited by LeatherGryphon on
  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675
    Mistara said:

    suffolk county cancelled bus service today.  yayeah

    time to start winter storm luau party  

    hula hula

    So, if bus service is cancelled, don't you have to get work anyway?

     

    absolutely not!!!! laugh

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675

    i tell ya  fresh crispy celery just as good as potato chips  specially in dill dip angel

     

    snowy sky dump at full vigor, snowflakes so fat i can see em without my eyeglasses

    next luau party snack, butterpecan ice cream with sliced banana

     

    i might even get 2 snowdays from ths storm angel  looks so lovely outside the window, world looks like a dish of ice cream

     

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675
    DanaTA said:

    With no car, storm on the way, and I think she said it's a few miles to work, I think it's a snow day.

    Dana

     

    over 20 miles.

    my 1 regret, snowed in with mo marshmallow fluff  crying

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675

    To finish up my blathering about music for today, I found a YouTube of Phillipe Entremont playing the 2nd movement of Saint-Saens 4th piano concerto.  His treatment of the piano chords played during the 2nd movement's clear statement of the main theme is both better played and better recorded, it doesn't overpower the orchestra and isn't out of phase with the orchestra. He has a good feel for how those chords should fit in at that point.  Very simple couple of measures of music but very difficult to play well.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=du9aGwl6am8  See the minute and a half section between 1:39 and 2:50  IMHO this is a much better performance than the one I linked to previously.

     

    is not a sherazad kinda evening?

    O mio babbino caro?

     

  • LeatherGryphonLeatherGryphon Posts: 12,220
    Mistara said:

    To finish up my blathering about music for today, I found a YouTube of Phillipe Entremont playing the 2nd movement of Saint-Saens 4th piano concerto.  His treatment of the piano chords played during the 2nd movement's clear statement of the main theme is both better played and better recorded, it doesn't overpower the orchestra and isn't out of phase with the orchestra. He has a good feel for how those chords should fit in at that point.  Very simple couple of measures of music but very difficult to play well.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=du9aGwl6am8  See the minute and a half section between 1:39 and 2:50  IMHO this is a much better performance than the one I linked to previously.

     

    is not a sherazad kinda evening?

    O mio babbino caro?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRuYQ9KRJms  One of the very few vocals I enjoy.

  • TJohnTJohn Posts: 11,352
    NVIATWAS said:
    Tjohn said:
    NVIATWAS said:
    ps1borg said:

    So hungry would trade body parts for pizza right now complaint ;0

    Too bad we don't have transporter tech or I'd send you some of mine... :-/

    Pizza or body parts? o.O

    Pizza, of course.  I'm already missing body parts, can't lose more. :-/

    Word. smiley

  • carrie58carrie58 Posts: 4,126
    Mistara said:

    To finish up my blathering about music for today, I found a YouTube of Phillipe Entremont playing the 2nd movement of Saint-Saens 4th piano concerto.  His treatment of the piano chords played during the 2nd movement's clear statement of the main theme is both better played and better recorded, it doesn't overpower the orchestra and isn't out of phase with the orchestra. He has a good feel for how those chords should fit in at that point.  Very simple couple of measures of music but very difficult to play well.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=du9aGwl6am8  See the minute and a half section between 1:39 and 2:50  IMHO this is a much better performance than the one I linked to previously.

     

    is not a sherazad kinda evening?

    O mio babbino caro?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRuYQ9KRJms  One of the very few vocals I enjoy.

    That was lovely ............

     

  • TSasha SmithTSasha Smith Posts: 27,417

    I decided that I am not going to breed my guppies.  However I do not know how to communicate in Guppy to say no more breeding.

  • ps1borgps1borg Posts: 12,776

    Morning. All quiet here under a big bright blue sky without even the hint of rain. Our garden is very dry,  has been less than 2mm of rain each month since last Christmas :)

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 42,104

    ...with chilly wet weather on the way for the next couple days bones and joints have been aching something fierce.  At least the threat of white stuff fro the sky has been taken out for Saturday, (now low 50s and partly sunny), but the next two days will be reverting back to January like weather.  Actually laid down for a while it was so bad.  Ran out of ibuprofen but got a coupon for a free bottle of aspirin at the nearby market which will help in a pinch.

    So this is what, the fourth nor'easter?  Yeah, don't think I could hack living there with my bones and joints. Bad enough where I am and weather transitions here are more gradual.

  • starionwolfstarionwolf Posts: 3,670
    edited March 2018

    I almost bought a smartphone for $5.  I noticed that the operating system is four or five years old.  Some modern apps won't run on an old operating system.  Plus, it might be too slow for me.  I'm glad that I read the description before I bought the phone.

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