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  • Persona Non GrataPersona Non Grata Posts: 1,365
    edited March 2021

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  • AlbertoAlberto Posts: 1,382
    Selina said:

    Hola Alberto,

    Que buena noticia... gracias por todo su trabajo duro y la nueva versión de Fluidos, ¡me lo encanta muchisima!


    Selina heart

    ¡Gracias a usted!

  • 3drendero3drendero Posts: 2,017

    Thanks Alberto.

    News post at CarraraCafe is also updated now:

    http://carraracafe.com/news/the-fluid-sim-plugin-for-carrara-fluidos-1-01-is-released/

  • 3DAGE3DAGE Posts: 3,311

    Thank you Alberto :)

    Much appreciated

  • DUDUDUDU Posts: 1,945

    Thank you Alberto!
    In spite of the fact that I usually use Realflow, your plugin takes more and more place in my workflow.
    I will devote my day of tomorrow to this new version.
    My long project of animation already used it some times.
    Thanks again!

  • 0oseven0oseven Posts: 626

    Hi Alberto 

     

    Reference your advice    'Maybe an OpenCL CPU-only Runtime Package can help you: https://software.intel.com/en-us/articles/opencl-drivers#latest_CPU_runtime.'

    I installed this [which required me to uninstall Intel graphic drivers ]  and during installation a message said I already had an old version of OPEN CL.installed ! Anyway proceeded and now have an updated version but BAD NEWS fluidos still does not load the fluidsim.dll file 

    Using the latest version of Fluidos I tried both CPU and GPU setting in your plugin options.  Should I buy a new computer ?devil

  • AlbertoAlberto Posts: 1,382
    0oseven said:

     Should I buy a new computer ?devil

    Maybe, but in the meantime, read the PM I sent you.smiley

  • AlbertoAlberto Posts: 1,382
    3drendero said:

    Thanks Alberto.

    News post at CarraraCafe is also updated now:

    http://carraracafe.com/news/the-fluid-sim-plugin-for-carrara-fluidos-1-01-is-released/

    Thank you!

     

    3DAGE said:

    Thank you Alberto :)

    Much appreciated

     

    DUDU said:

    Thank you Alberto!
    In spite of the fact that I usually use Realflow, your plugin takes more and more place in my workflow.
    I will devote my day of tomorrow to this new version.
    My long project of animation already used it some times.
    Thanks again!

    You're welcome. I hope Carrara stays alive and growing.

  • ImagoImago Posts: 4,905
    edited April 2018

    Considering you gave at least 5 extra years of life to Carrara... laugh

     

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  • 0oseven0oseven Posts: 626
    Alberto said:
    0oseven said:

     Should I buy a new computer ?devil

    Maybe, but in the meantime, read the PM I sent you.smiley

    No message in INBOX  crying- definitely need a new computer ha ha !!

  • AlbertoAlberto Posts: 1,382
    0oseven said:
    No message in INBOX  crying- definitely need a new computer ha ha !!

    I'm afraid so... sad

    Try this:

    https://drive.google.com/open?id=1cUJBEOz4JyjBDWHKq3pjAnL7Sc40VnE6

    It's a fluidsim.dll with no OpenCL at all. It not depends on installed OpenCL. It's a little slower, however.

    Decompress and overwrite the fliudsim.dll of the new Fluidos version.

    All references to openCL in fluid domain properties will be ignored.

  • AlbertoAlberto Posts: 1,382
    Imago said:

    Considering you gave at least 5 extra years of life to Carrara... laugh

     

    I hope so !

  • 0oseven0oseven Posts: 626

    Alberto -

    I'm dissapointed to tell you the NON openCL version did not work.  I am really appreciative of your effort  to solve my problem . There must be domething in my system stopping the sim running - But What ?

      I dont wish to take up more of your time on this but will attach a few screen shots . There was an addtional message when running the latest  Fluidsim and some information about my system.

    Someone made a suggestion concerning the 'signing ' of .dll files - I looked on the internet for this but couldn't find anything useful - seemed to be advice for developers ?

    Once again thanks to you and those who have tried to help. 

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  • Persona Non GrataPersona Non Grata Posts: 1,365
    edited March 2021

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  • 0oseven0oseven Posts: 626
    Selina said:

    0oseven,

    I presume you have installed Carrara into a different folder than normal, namely Programs 3D ?

    If so, try this:

    1. Type cmd in the run box or find comand prompt in your windows program menu; right click it and run as Administrator
    2. When cmd opens type the following: regsvr32 C:\Programs 3D\DAZ 3D\Carrara8.5\Extensions\fluidsim.dll press return

    This will register the dll with Windows, then you can try Fuidos again.   Hope that helps,  ​Selina

    Thanks for repone Salina - unfortunately didn't work as per attached images of respsonses.

    First I accessed cmd from desktop which opens with Path prefix Users/mike.

    Then I dived into windows system and ran it from there path C:   ........ with similar result. 

    Did I paste in the correct path detail ?  Do the screen shots give any clues ? 

     

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  • AlbertoAlberto Posts: 1,382
    0oseven said:

    Alberto -

    I'm dissapointed to tell you the NON openCL version did not work.  I am really appreciative of your effort  to solve my problem . There must be domething in my system stopping the sim running - But What ?

      I dont wish to take up more of your time on this but will attach a few screen shots . There was an addtional message when running the latest  Fluidsim and some information about my system.

    Someone made a suggestion concerning the 'signing ' of .dll files - I looked on the internet for this but couldn't find anything useful - seemed to be advice for developers ?

    Once again thanks to you and those who have tried to help. 

    The enabled or disabled checbox in the no OpenCL version doesn't matter, it is ignored. 

    Then the problem is other dependency, no OpenCL itself.

    Did you use the Dependency walker at http://www.dependencywalker.com/?, it can say why your computer can load the dll. It seems it's missed other .dll that is needed for fluidsim.dll.

     

     

  • AlbertoAlberto Posts: 1,382

    This is the screen of dependency walker for the fluidsim.dll with no OpenCL

     

    This is with the OpenCL fluidsim.dll 

    It is marking errors for the OpenCL.dll (although in this case, it's an exaggeration of the Dependency Walker, because OpenCL is working well in this machine).

    Maybe we can find the problem.

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  • 0oseven0oseven Posts: 626

    Thank you Alberto I will try 'dependency walker ' and persue this as long as you have time to support my attempts. One day this might all be very useful to someone else !

  • Persona Non GrataPersona Non Grata Posts: 1,365
    edited March 2021

    FLUIDOS - Now with Viscosity...

    What follows is a series of tests to show the values involved in getting good results with Fluidos - Thanks to Alberto for all his hard work!

    Key to general info:

    1. CS: - Cell Size
    2. LS: - Level of Subdivision
    3. FC: - Force
    4. VT: - Viscosity
    5. HP: - Higher Precision

     

    CS: 0.500
    LS: 2
    FC: -32z
    VT: 0.00
    HP: No

    CS: 0.500
    LS: 2
    FC: -32z
    VT: 0.10
    HP: Yes

    CS: 0.500
    LS: 2
    FC: -32z
    VT: 0.50
    HP: Yes

    CS: 0.500
    LS: 2
    FC: -32z
    VT: 0.50 animated to 1.00
    HP: Yes

    CS: 0.250
    LS: 2
    FC: -32z
    VT: 0.01
    HP: Yes

    CS: 0.250
    LS: 2
    FC: -32z
    VT: 0.10
    HP: Yes

    CS: 0.250
    LS: 2
    FC: -32z
    VT: 1.00
    HP: Yes

    CS: 0.250
    LS: 2
    FC: -32z
    VT: 2.00
    HP: Yes

    CS: 0.250
    LS: 2
    FC: -64z
    VT: 2.00
    HP: Yes

    CS: 0.250
    LS: 2
    FC: -64z
    VT: 4.00
    HP: Yes

    CS: 0.250
    LS: 2
    FC: -64z
    VT: 25.00
    HP: No

    CS: 0.250
    LS: 2
    FC: -64z
    VT: 100.00
    HP: No

     

    Also, you may or may not realise the potential but here's a short video where I exported the fluidos shape and created a new show for the camera to pan around it - great for modelling liquids don't you think?

    Happy Fluidosing!


    Selina

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  • CelluloCellulo Posts: 56
    edited May 2018

    Thanks Selina for the tests and settings values, this give a good idea before made something in Fluidos and thanks to Alberto for the update.

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  • PhilWPhilW Posts: 5,139

    Selina - that video is so cool! I love the freezing time element!

  • ImagoImago Posts: 4,905

    Very nice, Selina! laugh

    You put the Cell Size... What about the Domain size? Which Magnitude you used on them? I want to reproduce them in my Carrara!

  • DiomedeDiomede Posts: 15,084

    @Selina - thank you so much for posing these tests and results.

  • mindsongmindsong Posts: 1,693

    way cool!

    both the tool and the test-runs! brilliant presentation, thanks!

    --ms

     

  • UnifiedBrainUnifiedBrain Posts: 3,588

    Selina, maybe I am easily blown away by geek magic, but your computer presentation skills are just amazing.

    You're hired!

  • AlbertoAlberto Posts: 1,382

    Amazing, Selina!

    What a beautiful and precise presentation !

     

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  • ImagoImago Posts: 4,905
    Selina said:

    @Imago

    Here's the missing parameters for you to emulate my experiments below. Sorry for the earlier omission:

    Fluid Source:

    • Activate: Yes
    • Velocity: 10.00x
    • Expand: 100%
    • Size: 6.00cm³
    • Cuboid: Yes

    Fluid Domain:

    • Size: 50.00cm³

     

    Selina

    Thanks, Selina! wink

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