WIP Thread for June New Users Contest.

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  • frank0314frank0314 Posts: 10,942
    edited June 2012

    Hi everyone, this is my first post in the forum. Here is my attempt. I need some help with this...thanks in advance. I love the way you all help us, I've learnt lots

    Agree with BWSman. It needs to be tall rather than wide but you are off to a really good start.

    Edit: Strike that I see you already did it. Sorry!

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  • frank0314frank0314 Posts: 10,942
    edited December 1969

    3ch0_419 said:
    Did a little with my WIP for this month. I went and added a spot light that I wanted to look like a flashlight that was almost dead.

    I like the framing of the image and the character itself, but because there is hardly no lighting on the character my eyes get drawn to the background instead of the character.

  • ChoholeChohole Posts: 33,604
    edited June 2012

    Hi everyone, this is my first post in the forum. Here is my attempt. I need some help with this...thanks in advance. I love the way you all help us, I've learnt lots

    Yeah I agee with what everyone has said about this picture. Your image

    We did state in the rules that it needs to be 800 pixels high by 600 pixels wide.


    And as Kylumi says, you need to tweak your lighting, so you get more the effect he is showing.

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  • home and hearthome and heart Posts: 25
    edited June 2012

    wow kylumi, I love what you've done, how did you do the background. Thank you

    chohole, so sorry about the size, I'm afraid I got things back the front:

    BWSman and Frank I will resize and try to adjust the lighting.....
    thanks all

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  • home and hearthome and heart Posts: 25
    edited December 1969

    okay here's my second attempt, I changed the background and adjusted the lights and shadows, I think the second looks better???

    second.jpg
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    first_a.jpg
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  • ChoholeChohole Posts: 33,604
    edited December 1969

    That 2nd one is a great improvement.

    I eapect on of the orhers will be along soon to comment some more

  • home and hearthome and heart Posts: 25
    edited December 1969

    thanks chohole, :) I'm off to bed, night all

  • kylumikylumi Posts: 291
    edited December 1969

    okay here's my second attempt, I changed the background and adjusted the lights and shadows, I think the second looks better???


    The second is heaps better, well done!

    [all I did was to take your image into photoshop and increase the contrast a little].

    Now all you need to do is move the lady off center......just so she is not smack-bang in the middle of the background.

    :coolsmile:

  • frank0314frank0314 Posts: 10,942
    edited December 1969

    okay here's my second attempt, I changed the background and adjusted the lights and shadows, I think the second looks better???

    Yes, agree. The second one looks much better. Good job.

  • SasjeSasje Posts: 835
    edited December 1969

    I want to thank everyone in the WIP for the tips and advice.
    I had lots of fun to do this and I love to do this more and more.:-)

  • frank0314frank0314 Posts: 10,942
    edited December 1969

    Not a problem. We are all here to help you get the best experience you can.

  • home and hearthome and heart Posts: 25
    edited December 1969

    thanks kylumi and frank for your help and advise. Really appreciated, you are all so generous with your advise. I love watching the different pictures evolve and take shape, thanks again

  • JaderailJaderail Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    Home and Heart I hate to be a fly in the ointment but I think you still need stronger lighting. This is a Lighting challenge of a portrait image, I think the lighting still needs work to make it really pop. I also agree with moving the image off center for a better impact.

  • home and hearthome and heart Posts: 25
    edited December 1969

    No problems Jaderail, I really appreciate the feedback, thats how we learn, so thank you. I'll continue to play with this and hopefully improve it.

  • JaderailJaderail Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    Looking forward to your next post. It improved so much in just one try I'm sure you are on the right path.

  • home and hearthome and heart Posts: 25
    edited December 1969

    Okay I upped the shadows and moved the spotlight (she looked like her face was really dirty), angled more to her hair and dropped the intensity, not sure if I haven't overdone it. Also repositioned her. Feedback please, I been looking at it so long, I can't see the forest for the trees:lol:

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  • ChoholeChohole Posts: 33,604
    edited December 1969

    This is getting better and better

  • JaderailJaderail Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    Yes, it sure is. I think higher Render settings might get that to really popping.

  • edited December 1969

    Since the theme of this months contest is lighting, I have a few questions about the various lighting packages that are available for Daz Studio. My reason for asking about the following packages is to find out who uses which products, and also to determine the pros vs cons of each package so that I can hopefully not purchase a package that I will not use in my renders.

    Uber Soft Light Bundle: Is this primarily for indoor lighting?
    Studio Light Pro: Any input is appreciated.
    Light Dome Pro: Does Uberenvironment do the same thing?
    Uber Environment 2: Included free - does it compare to other products, or are they apples and oranges?
    Reality 2: Will purchasing this negate the need for any other lighting package?

    Thanks in advance,

  • home and hearthome and heart Posts: 25
    edited December 1969

    Jaderail, if possible could you please point in the right direction with render settings, I'm not quite sure what you mean (sorry I'm a bit slow on the up take). I really appreciate you all taking the time to help.

  • frank0314frank0314 Posts: 10,942
    edited June 2012

    That is what these WIP threads are for. To get the most out of your experience. We have all been there and have needed help before. We are very happy to help. I agree the image is just getting better and better each time you do something to it.

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  • DisparateDreamerDisparateDreamer Posts: 2,328
    edited December 1969

    Jaderail said:
    Home and Heart I hate to be a fly in the ointment but I think you still need stronger lighting. This is a Lighting challenge of a portrait image, I think the lighting still needs work to make it really pop. I also agree with moving the image off center for a better impact.

    I can't help but disagree... I usually don't say much because I am far from pro...
    but what makes this "POP" is the SOFT lighting. Having high contrast lighting isn't the only way to get professional light. This one looks very realistic and soft. very beautiful, the style that I often want but fail to achieve. You're selling lighting short if strong lighting is the only way to make an image pop.

    When I see good pictures, it is SOMETIMES with strong lighting. But the ones that wow me and make me wish I could do that? That's what Home and Heart's image did. I kept looking at it, because its so pretty. The pose is nice, the expression is nice, the subtle contrast of color tones- did you notice it? I did!) the soft light that that gently illuminates like a bright but overcast day.... it was just a refreshing change of pace from STRONG lighting. Just saying that it doesn't have to be strong, because this image already left a STRONG impression on me as it is with the GENTLY adjust contrast in the second image.

    I may try to put my own picture in, but I am terrible at lighting... I can only look at stuff and think "Now that is what I WANTED to do" :)

    Everyone else, I only JUST saw this thread, and there's a lot, and may not have much to imput on the topic of lighting!!

  • ChoholeChohole Posts: 33,604
    edited December 1969

    I tend to agree I hate too strong a lighting on human subjects. A lot of good protrait photgraphers will filter their lights through gauzy cloth to get a softer effect.

  • FirstBastionFirstBastion Posts: 5,360
    edited December 1969

    Okay I upped the shadows and moved the spotlight (she looked like her face was really dirty), angled more to her hair and dropped the intensity, not sure if I haven't overdone it. Also repositioned her. Feedback please, I been looking at it so long, I can't see the forest for the trees:lol:

    It's a decent portrait, and compared to the two earlier (flatly lit) versions on the previous page, a definite improvement.

  • WahilWahil Posts: 306
    edited June 2012

    Hey, thanks for this thread and all the helpful hints. I haven't had time to read all of the advice yet, but seeing the improvements in the entries is so cool.

    Here's my first attempt titled, "You're Breaking Up with Me?"

    Any advice that can help me improve is greatly appreciated.

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  • LycanthropeXLycanthropeX Posts: 2,287
    edited December 1969

    Denny L said:
    Hey, thanks for this thread and all the helpful hints. I haven't had time to read all of the advice yet, but seeing the improvements in the entries is so cool.

    Here's my first attempt titled, "You're Breaking Up with Me?"

    Any advice that can help me improve is greatly appreciated.

    the lighting is a tad harsh, i'm thinking some diffusion could help some. Love the expression on her face.

  • WahilWahil Posts: 306
    edited December 1969

    the lighting is a tad harsh, i'm thinking some diffusion could help some. Love the expression on her face.

    Glad you liked the expression. I was trying to get Surprised, Disbelief, Sad, Tearful, and slightly Angry all rolled into one look.

    Could you elaborate on what you mean by some diffusion? I don't know what that is.

  • JaderailJaderail Posts: 0
    edited June 2012

    @Dalbelo: I see nothing to fix. That's one good render.

    @Denny L: I think diffusion is in Poser. LX is a Poser user. In DS you can get almost the same (I think) by lowering the strength of the main light, and playing with the shadow Bias and Shadow Sotfness some. A Slight tint to the light might also help some.
    Everything is sharp and Crisp as it is now. A lighter (intensity) light and Shadow Softness might be the things to play with and see what you get.

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  • LycanthropeXLycanthropeX Posts: 2,287
    edited December 1969

    um.... I only use Poser, so not sure how to do things in Studio, Diffusion gives you softer shadows

  • JaderailJaderail Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    um.... I only use Poser, so not sure how to do things in Studio, Diffusion gives you softer shadows
    Hmmm.... never used Poser and still got the right idea. Thanks for clearing that up for us both.
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