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  • DiomedeDiomede Posts: 12,968
    edited January 13

    Just a test to see if the forum is posting images yet.

    welcome to sherwood

    EDIT: guess it worked.

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  • UnifiedBrainUnifiedBrain Posts: 3,172

    Thanks for testing.  I tried to post my Christmas render again (in the other thread) and it still didn't work.  So, I tried a different image, and it worked fine.  So, I resized the Christmas render in PSE, amd this time it worked..

    This forum software can be picky. :)

  • StezzaStezza Posts: 6,780

    I thought the web gurus were doing funky stuff to the forum yesterday as refreshing edited posts went all wonky

    I guess the year 12 kids had a field day at Daz again and played with the tools frown

  • DiomedeDiomede Posts: 12,968
    edited February 11

    Doing some tests in that fancy program, Substance Painter.  Am testing on the football uniform for Genesis 1  (not the current new release for Genesis 8).  This is just placing the base color maps.  I will have to do some investigation into which maps go where in Carrara.  I made some fake logos as if the NFL cares that I would use their logos on the Carrara forum without earning money.  The actual Super Bowl game is the Los Angeles Rams against the Cincinnati Bengals.  The 3D Bowl is the SoCal Male Sheep against the Ohio Valley Striped Tigers.  At the moment, I have only finished the helmets, and haven't even correctly placed all the maps and adjusted Carrara shader settings.  If I get the rest of the uniform for Genesis 1 complete before the Super Bowl starts, I will offer as freebies at ShareCG, not that anyone would know because I suspect the DAZ forums will go down this weekend.  I have made assets to pay tribute uniforms for multiple player numbers, such as the Male Sheep vintage defensive line known as the Fearsome Foursome of Deacon Jones fame.  

    It is really just a learning exercise for Substance Painter.

     

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  • DiomedeDiomede Posts: 12,968
    edited February 12

    I have posted png files for the texture maps at sharecg.  

    https://sharecg.com/v/98714/gallery/6/Texture/Texture-Uniforms-Daz-Genesis-1-Football-Uniform

     

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  • Bunyip02Bunyip02 Posts: 5,605

    Nice !!!

  • HeadwaxHeadwax Posts: 9,405

    Yes nice work Ted.

    And thanks for this thread, now I'm using Genesis  I'm looking forward to going through it again.

    Interestingly I found a way of changing the Uv's in Carrara after twinging and twanging a bit/ Not sure if it's a common workflowthrough or if everyone is already changing the Genesis Uv's in carrara without problem.

    If not I'll start a new thread later. Though it's quite simple.

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 32,836
    edited February 16

    Headwax said:

    Yes nice work Ted.

    And thanks for this thread, now I'm using Genesis  I'm looking forward to going through it again.

    Interestingly I found a way of changing the Uv's in Carrara after twinging and twanging a bit/ Not sure if it's a common workflowthrough or if everyone is already changing the Genesis Uv's in carrara without problem.

    If not I'll start a new thread later. Though it's quite simple.

    only way I know is save a character preset with the UV in DAZ studio and apply, you can drill down in the character settings in D|S and just have the UV apply 

    the preset will work in Carrara

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  • HeadwaxHeadwax Posts: 9,405
    edited February 16

    Hya Wendy,

     

    Thanks for that input.

    This is how to do it in Carrara.

    I drop in a (eg) genesis child.

    Shape the child to my character. Call him Reginald.

    If I then drop in a V4 texture it won't align as you know.

    Save the Geneisis character Morph/Pose using NLA>Creat Master Pose (That tidbit courtesy of Dart) and call  it "Reginald".

    Drop Basic Female Genesis onto my Reginald child character.

    This will change Reginal's shape to Genesis female but also the UV's will change. As will the shader of course.

    Use the NLA Master Pose you saved on the Genesis figure.

    Presto, your figure Reginald comes back.

    Drop in any V4 texture you like and it will be aligned.

    Told you it was simple!

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  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 32,836

    well you can load the presets that exist already too such as David5, V5 etc

    I thought you meant a bespoke one with mixed UVs

  • DiomedeDiomede Posts: 12,968

    Thanks for the comments, Bunyip, HW, and Wendy.  

    The tip about the NLS clip as a UV control is much appreciated.  I generally use G2 characters more than G1.  I think the multiple UVs is an even more common problem for G2s.  As per Wendy, I have been loading the base character whose texture maps I want to use and then zeroing out that character and applying new morphs.  It would be nice to save some NLA clips and be able to change my mind without reloading and starting over.  yes

  • HeadwaxHeadwax Posts: 9,405

    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    well you can load the presets that exist already too such as David5, V5 etc

    I thought you meant a bespoke one with mixed

    mixed uvees, now you are doing my head in! 

    I see you and ub 1984k elsewher

    Apologies for that

  • HeadwaxHeadwax Posts: 9,405

    Diomede said:

    Thanks for the comments, Bunyip, HW, and Wendy.  

    The tip about the NLS clip as a UV control is much appreciated.  I generally use G2 characters more than G1.  I think the multiple UVs is an even more common problem for G2s.  As per Wendy, I have been loading the base character whose texture maps I want to use and then zeroing out that character and applying new morphs.  It would be nice to save some NLA clips and be able to change my mind without reloading and starting over.  yes

    Pleasure Ted, havn’t got my head around gen 2 yet. Have so much stuff for  both   but never used.  Like books in my library never read.

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 32,836

    Headwax said:

    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    well you can load the presets that exist already too such as David5, V5 etc

    I thought you meant a bespoke one with mixed

    mixed uvees, now you are doing my head in! 

    I see you and ub 1984k elsewher

    Apologies for that

    yes in the Carrara plugin/bridge that saves duf files for us you can have different UV mapping on different surfaces and import your own via obj too, I do it a lot. cheeky

  • HeadwaxHeadwax Posts: 9,405

    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    Headwax said:

    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    well you can load the presets that exist already too such as David5, V5 etc

    I thought you meant a bespoke one with mixed

    mixed uvees, now you are doing my head in! 

    I see you and ub 1984k elsewher

    Apologies for that

    yes in the Carrara plugin/bridge that saves duf files for us you can have different UV mapping on different surfaces and import your own via obj too, I do it a lot. cheeky

     

    ha ha thanks Wendy, now I get it!

  • DiomedeDiomede Posts: 12,968
    edited March 23

    This is probably worth reporting in the Carrara forum.  Some of the 'decal' offerings can work in Carrara using the shader room.  For example, there is a decal to add dirt or grass or (whatever) patches to ground planes.  Ignoring the decal object, you can simply apply the maps with the opacity masks in Carrara using the layers list shader. 

    Example in this thread.  https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/558291/solved-ground-decal-new-release-what-is-required-what-is-aotp-ground

    Here is a Carrara application.

    - choose a ground plane or similar object.

    - in the shader room, choose the layer pen tool in the upper right.  For this example I choose the rectangle.

    - draw your location in the shader room preview window.

    - import the decal maps to the new layer created by the pen.

    - if the decal includes opacity maps, import them to the opacity mask channel.

    .

     

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  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 32,836

    cool yes

  • Bunyip02Bunyip02 Posts: 5,605

    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    cool yes

    +1 yes

  • DiomedeDiomede Posts: 12,968
    edited May 20

    Free Silly Figures

    Free for any use.  I created some generic toon meshes with corresponding base skeletons rigging.  I posted an example of how to customize a figure for a RingMaster for the 62nd Carrara Challenge - Clowns and Circus.

    See example of use here.  https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/comment/7486926/#Comment_7486926

    Free ZIP file with a generic Male, Female, and Child attached.

    EDIT: I have added a second ZIP file with joint constraints.

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  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 32,836
    edited May 16

    you may need to name the bones differently for Mixamo also lacking a root bone at 0,0,0 it pivots on the hip in Unreal Engine retargeting animations

    I may be able to fiddle with this in Carrara

     

    I tried using spotlight in Zbrush to projection paint a texture but I did not do too well

    the lips seem to overlap and it looks like a see you next Tuesday surprise on the texture that is

    I think procedurals are probably best devil

     

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  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 32,836
    edited May 16

    renaming the bones works for Mixamo

    well some of them

    as you can see did not do one arm so maybe it doesn't like only some

     

     

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  • DiomedeDiomede Posts: 12,968
    edited May 17

    Thanks for the feedback, Wendy.  I tried replying earlier but the forum boinked on me. Very important tip on the bone names.  Much appreciated.  I have gotten my models in Mixamo as OBJs and used Mixamos automatic skeleton but there is no way to get the animation sequence back to Carrara,  Argh.   The UVs for these silly figures are rough at best because I generally have to do the UVs over again after I add and subtract polygons.  That goes a long way to explain the strange mouth.  In revisiting the UVs, I generally try to model the object and do the initial UVs paying attention to the islands.  It is easy to isolate an island or shading domain and replace the UVs just for that island or shading domain as long as not using the unwrap seam method. In other words, Carrara can select the face, detach polygons, and do a planar projection in the Z axis, and select the lips, detach polygons, and do a cylinder projection, without doing a complete unwrap.

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  • DiomedeDiomede Posts: 12,968

    BTW - I tried to subscribe to your WIP channel, but it turned out I was already subscribed.  Did you change the name?  Or is subscribing another thing I have forgotten in my senior stage?

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 32,836

    Diomede said:

    BTW - I tried to subscribe to your WIP channel, but it turned out I was already subscribed.  Did you change the name?  Or is subscribing another thing I have forgotten in my senior stage?

    its Youtube, I don't always see some of my subscriptions new videos, they want you to enable notifications as well and I won't as get too many so they annoy you by not showing you some

  • DiomedeDiomede Posts: 12,968

    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    I tried using spotlight in Zbrush to projection paint a texture but I did not do too well

    the lips seem to overlap and it looks like a see you next Tuesday surprise on the texture that is

    I think procedurals are probably best devil

    That is actually pretty amazing given how rough my unwrapped UVs are.  I mentioned that in practice I am still adding and subtracting polygons at this stage so the UVs generally have to be done over anyway.  For anyone not familar with Carrara UVs, it lacks some tools that would make editing the UV map much easier.  I mentioned what I usually do is create shader domains and UV seams first.  The point is to isolate areas that later might be good using one of the projection presets, like planar.  It is hit and miss, but here is one illustration. Unwrap and place the UV islands created by the seams.  Later you can double click and island and revise with projections the UV of just that selection.  You cannot use the unwrap tool for just one island.  If you try to unwrap just one island, Carrara will unwrap the whole model.  Here I will use a projection for just the face and lips because Wendy's ZBrush experiment shows how the lips are problematic from the unwrap

    (1)  here is the default UV map of the head for my generic toon female.  Notice the blue line around the face indicating the outer edges of the island and the two small green dots where I put pins, one in the forehead and one on the chin.

    (2) here I have double clicked the face island to select all of it, and I have added the lips to the selection by using the menu to select by shading domain

    (3) use the UV tools in the properties try to 'detach selected polygons.'  Now if use a projection preset, it will not affect adjacent polygons.

    (4) I applied the planar projection preset with 'no split.'  The result looks like a rotated face.

    (5) Making sure the face and lips are still selected (sometimes Carrara drops a few vertexes), rotate and resize the face/lips result and place in open map spot.

    (6) New Issue, the face is not planar, so applying the planar preset has some issues.  For example, some of the outer blue edges of the cheeks are now inside the face island indicating overlap.  Can adjust manually.

    (7) This would improve the lips in Wendy's ZBrush projection but make the cheeks and sides of the face worse.

    In general, better to UV map in a different program.

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  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 32,836
    edited May 18

    yes I use Ultimate Unwrap3d or Zbrush but I often start with Carrara or go back to Carrara afterwards to tweak things

    I like the fact you can polypaint paint guides in Zbrush how you want it to try and unwrap

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