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What he said!
My home system doesn't do internet; I have a Linux system for that. My laptop (Windows 8.1) doesn't do updates. Period. I don't read email in html formatted mode. I don't click on ads. (I don't allow ads). I read pdf files with the Foxit reader (doesn't autorun macros, requires permission to access an internet site); I use Libre Office for documents retrieved from the internet (again - doesn't autorun word or excell macros). I use the windows firewall and have all the remote access functions turned off both in the firewall and in the services list.
Rolling back to earlier build, which will hopefully be as easy as it looks.
Ideally this will also indicate if it's the OS or a weird coincidence.
It's a UNIX certified system, whereas Linux are UNIX-like.
Yea, meant to come back and change that from Linux to Unix. Sorry....
Oh and I'm at work. Laptop is working OK so far. It's only used to browse the internet and make appointments but so far so good. Very sluggish on the bootup though!
...I still need the DIM for product updates and Beta releases which means still having to go online from the W7 partition. In my book, MS really pulled a cheap shot on us W7/8.1 users with this change to the update procedure. It's like they are saying, "You didn't want W10 when it was free because of the mandatory update policy? Well surprise! We're now forcing it on your Win7, enjoy."
...I read Ed Bott's article this morning on ZDNet about that. You have to go into a restore procedure to do it and it only works for the optional updates like drivers & such. If it conflicts with boot up though, you are pretty much screwed. In a comment I posted to the article, I made an analogy likening his and MS's handling of the procedure to health insurance today which promotes symptomatic rather than preventive medicine. Received several "likes" for it.
...yeah this is what really caused MS to lose a boatload of points with me. I have W7 Home so all I would have received (without paying the upgrade cost for the Pro Edition) would have been W10 home. 199$ (W10 Pro) for just being able to defer for 90 days isn't worth the extra price.
...yeah in the words of my namesake character, this change to the W7/8.1 update policy "really chafes my hide". The way I look at it, MS has effectively pulled the plug on security support for W7 three years, three months early as it is no different than W10..
Now I'm trying a reset but keep personal files. Frankly, if it wasn't for 3D art, I'd probably give up on personal computers entirely.
...if it wasn't for the onset of crippling arthritis, I wouldn't be into 3D CG either.
I believe I have seen it mentioned that DIM works ok under Wine in Linux, so you could use Samba/CIFS to mount the Win7 drive/partition, where the DIM downloads are to go, to the Linux OS and use DIM to d/l to there.
...yeah as my W7 boot drive is only 250MB (and pretty full) sounds like individual drives for Linux and W7 might be the best way to go. HDDs and even small SSDs are pretty cheap these days.
So by going this route rather than a VM the W7 partition/drive is what will manage the memory for the programmes separate from the Linux one? I May know how to build systems but when it comes to configuring the OS and software, I'm still in learning mode.
Also I take it Daz and all my other CG programmes would have to be installed on the Windows partition/drive as well.
Yes, that sounds about right. Before you go off and 'do stuff', you might want to try a 'Live Linux' - in effect boot a Linux version off of CD/DVD. That will run in RAM and allow you try stuff out, such as mounting the Win partition to see if it may be a thing you'd be happy with.
I've seen a dropbox icon on my dekstop. But I never knew what it was for. I just ignored it.
Do you use a backup software? I highly recommend Macrium Reflect. It saved my butt the first time the anniversary update installed and then crashed everytime I typed a letter on my microsoft wireless keyboard. After 5 crashes, it said it was attempting an automatic recovery and then it said that it couldn't recover because a required file was corrupt. The file turned out to be a component of Webroot. Why that should have prevented the operating system from rolling back is a mystery to me. Turned out that Microsoft changed something about their keyboard driver and it caused a BSOF when it interacted with Webroot. Only I didn't know it was a BSOF. I never saw that screen or got any message. Just an automatic freeze and hard restart. While I was having the problem, posted on the Microsoft and Webroot forums but no body knew any thing. Once I figured out on my own that the keyboard was causing the issue, I went back and updated my posts so that it might help someone else. And then people said "Oh, yeah, this is a known issue."
Computers were meant to make life easier and simpler I suppose but sometimes I think they've just made it more complicated. I sometimes wish I could give up on them completely, too...
Well, at this point, if I didn't need the computer for art, I'd be able to live quite happily using a tablet or my phone to browse and keep in touch with people, and play computer games on a console.
When I was in the mode of trying to FIX MS's Windows 10 screwups, I tried restoring Windows 10 and it wouldn't restore either because of a corrupt file. In my case it was a file from Google Chrome. Huh?? And that would keep Windows from working? I consider Windows 10 Microcrap's biggest steaming pile of dog crap to date. Finally I just got fed up and reinstalled Windows 8.1.
Laurie
Welp, reset seems to have worked. Getting Daz to recognize files (re-import metadata) which is going to take a while.
Then I'm going to gingerly set up Dropbox and duck behind a bunker.
You can do those manually. For product updates, I download the full product (The newest version will have all updates) on a USB drive on my Linux box and manually install it over the old version on my Studio box. There are threads here listing updates.
...yes, but for older content that has been updated, one wouldn't know if there has and update to the file or not without the DIM.
This thread lists most of them as the updates happen. I built my computer and downloaded the content on June 10 (Since I had to go online to verify Win7 anyway) so I only needed to look at updates made since then. Since I've kept up with it, I only need to check for new updates since the last one listed. In your case, you'd only need to check for updated products from the date you took your computer offline, and download and reinstall the products manually.
http://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/26282/product-updates-dim-zips-starting-july-2013#latest
Ok, I have to let Win10 off. It looks like what actually happened was my HDD just decided to start pooping out around the same time as the last update. Granted, given how often updates happen, it's easy to jump at shadows.
Thankfully, I had a spare drive from when my LAST computer's HDD failed and everyeone said 'oh just get a new one' (which didn't work and I thought it was a waste, but turns out...)
...with all the old content I have that would be a major undertaking to keep checking. When I opened the DIM to download a couple things I bought the other night, there were several pages of older updated content to download and install as well. Also again, you cannot download any beta released without the DIM. It is the only way I can evaluate whether I want or need to update the programme without overwriting the existing version.
After reading through this thread, I intend to keep my new computer offline. I'm not retiring the HP, though, so I can still use DIM to download and to get updates. I'll just have to use a flash drive to copy products from one computer to the other. (Maybe it's time for the DOJ to investigate MS again. These updates sound too much like big brother and too heavy-handed!)
I just installed DIM on my home Linux system; it is connected to the DAZ store and downloading my product list (well - trying to ; I'm on dial-up). This is running on a very old OpenSuSE release, and all I did was launch the DIM installer.
...if it works on dial up it should on fibre optic as well. Yeah need to get a third drive for Linux. Leaves me with a bit of a decision as I could go with a 250GB SSD for the W7 drive which would mean faster load times (as well as faster swapping when render loads get too big) and use the existing HDD as the Linux boot drive.
So I take it this setup would require dual logins as well (W7 and Linux)?
At the computer level, yes if you're dual-booting. At the DAZ store level, no. I've never done it, but you might ge able to boot off a live Linux DVD without installing to your system.
As long as Windows 7 is installed first, there won't be a problem. Linux will install it's GRUB menu and allow you to choose what OS you want to boot to on startup (if that is what you mean by dual log ins).
I don't see how using either the DIM in WINE or Windows would make any difference on logins for the content downloads.
...I feel it just be better having it resident on the system. There are times I would need the DVD drive free for other things (like watching films or listening to music & such).
You also might be able to run it fine from a USB 3 thumb drive. I got a 128 gig drive for less than 40 bucks recently (and that's more than large enough for Linux). I wouldn't go USB 2 tho, although, theoretically you could. USB 3 would be much faster.
Laurie
My GF's computer just went through an update that restarted her computer in the middle of the night. I'm not sure which update as I have not had a chance to get on and look, but her start menu has completely changed.
It no longer has any tiles, nor the file explorer, recently used apps, or any of that.
I've not found any settings in pre-aniversary settings that would affect the start menu like that. Has anyone who got the update have any idea how to revert the start menu back to "normal"?