No encrypted for me.
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...another annoying part to this. No longer do product pages have an associated content link. For example I never knew there was a new MFD for G3F out and the Expansion pack released tonight does not include the link to the base product as that line now shows the download options instead. So I have to go sifting through everything manually to find it (since the search engine with this site software is totally worthless).
Lolwut?
What kinda dummy would buy content that they can only use on one machine ever?
I stand corrected.
...like with Win 10, in this case "free is not a very good price".
As to Hexagon and Bryce, they may as well spin those off to someone else who will actually update them or just retire them as 32 bit is a pretty dead platform for 3D CG these days due to the low memory limits the programmes must operate under.
Is the metadata for ALL products you 'own'?
So far. As time goes on or even sooner people may find it more convenient to use Connect and Smart Content for everything they own. Have everything together and accessible from one place. Only keep installed the products you use most frequently plus whatever you might need for a current project, whatever. That's really tempting. But it has three problems I see.
(1) If you have a decent content collection you MUST categorize everything so it's manageable. I have as of now 13,300 plus products and if you think I'm going to categorize all that stuff you're nuts.
(2) Re above, some of us (and most artists are at various times) browsers rather than keyworders in that there are many times you simply tool around your folders and files until you hit something that says it should be in your scene and voila. Serendipity breeds inspiration and keeps the trite bug at bay. This will be more difficult to do.
(3) I left this for last but to most here it's the most important. As we're nudged into folding all our content into Connect we wake up one day and find that yes, indeed, we're on the brink of the 'walled garden'. All else is a red herring.
There's already a system to keep your owned products in one place, to download or not as you choose, install or not as you choose. It's called DIM.
I have products I own that I haven't downloaded (Poser files) products I've downloaded but not installed (all those free textures for clothing I don't own) and products I have installed that I can uninstall whenever I like. All in one simple program that I can open, queue up files in, and generally manage without affecting Studio. DIM is great. In comparison, Connect is a more complicated less useful thing.
If moving files around is the stated problem, the solution was to make Categories take over Content Library instead of letting you physically move files inside Studio. But no, massive complicated new system...
That is totally wrong, I can play them on every player I want and it plays on every player for CD and DVD or blue ray without any problem or license problems or other permits, that is the main difference. I am not talking about trading or anything like this, but I can also sell a bought CD or DVD or Blue Ray if I want, so long it is the original and not a copy.
as written, I am not talking of selling or trading or giving bought products away, I talking about using them for my use where I want without any problems like on a new or second machine for example.
Backwards. If it weren't for encryption/DRM you wouldn't have Connect with the fancy schmancy new file format and Smart Content.
If you just wanted dufs to be encrypted you could still have a 'Connect' to validate and authorize you to download all your files from the cloud. Then you could install them like DIM.
I have also not downloaded all files from DIM, all Poser files for example or stuff I have bought back in 2010 and that I have already installed in the folder "DAZ 3D" back from DS 3 times or in which I have also products bought at Rendo for example for V4 and M4.
What I do have is making back ups from all zip files I have downloaded via DIM so I have the option to install them manually if DAZ kicks DIM, who knows what they plan for the future. Right now everything is possible it seems. Like changing download options after uploading products to the store.
...I don't use Smart Content as it hogs too much display real estate.
Not sure how many of you are aware what can happen to a company that has a sudden, and unexpected demise (almost always because it has run out of money, and the bank will no longer give it further credit). In these cases you could have the receivers move in to the company premises to try and secure what assets remain, potentially escorting remaining staff off the building with just their personal possessions. Although this is an extreme scenerio, if it was to happen, you can bet releasing any such so called Poison Pill, is likely to be well down the list of priorities of either the now out of work staff, or the official receivers whose job it is to try and get as much money as they can get from what's left to pay off any debtors.
As far as I know DAZ is currently in a healthy financial position, and so currently all such worries can be put aside, but I think it is difficult to guess what would happen in the chaos of a company's sudden demise.
I have never used smart content
One thing is clear and that is really good news for my bank account. I will spend less money at the store in the future
The good news of connect and encrypted and Iray only products is, I will spend less money here at DAZ.
I've been through a scenario like that on the customer side. We had NO idea what was going on. This was a pre-web online service and those 'receivers' were deceivers. They took over the 'office' like you said and sent all the customers 'official' messages about another offer of up to whatever number of hours online at a reduced rate. I purchased what for me was a month's worth of hours. Some purchased more.
They were gone in a week.
Me too, and I've ask for a refund.
Oh and reverted to 4.8.
Well I'm basically agreeing with you that once you buy something it should be yours freely albit not sharing or distributing. I also think that the new encrypted stuff can be used on any number of machines if you log each one on with Daz. Granted that this is another hoop we have to jump through that we didn't before. And this new hoop is now closed to people who like to use content on another internet-free machine.
My original point was about the OPs complaint about the stuff-ups of changing the rules arbitrarily post sale (several times) and how a professionally run business shouldn't be doing this. I had a vision of Daz being an office staffed by dedicated professionals on the ball rather than a bunch of hacks at the controls. And if these stuff-ups continue in this fashion it is only aiding who think that DRM wasn't thought through properly in the first place. I think we all want Daz to be a professionaly run organisation that cares about it clients, but it's up to them to prove it. A written apology on these boards would go some way to show they actually do.
well, they have fixed an issue I have in DS4.8 with the SubD Algo change of G3F in DS4.9 but well, that is no reason to install DS4.9. I rather live the bug/error and DS4.8 right now
This will likely get merged into the other thread, but to take your analogy...
I go out and buy a new DVD player, and can't play the DVD/CSs in it until the machine has been confirmed as valid. Hell, I could have the machine repaired and that might make it so a renewel of the 'key' was required.
Or to put it another way, I can't copy that DVD, but I sure can use it untill the format becomes obsolete.
If you mean customers with clients, I think that right now DAZ cares not about its clients
Merged a post that was first posted in the No encryption for me thread and is only being repeated to begin a new thread, we're merging it back to where it was first posted.
Maybe you can try this (removing the cmscfg.json' file from Daz appdata): http://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/comment/945010/#Comment_945010 - it worked for me...
No. DRM uses encryption. Other process/programs/features on a computer (of whatever type) use encryption, but aren't DRM.
Like the post below, I was referring to this attempt.
... And like I said above, DRM uses encryption, encryption does not mean there is DRM (digital rights management). An easy example is when payments are made using https - that is encrypted (or should be), which is why we should be sure the browser is using https.
It has to check every time; otherwise, how does it know you are authorised to use it? That is why a machine has to be logged in at least once, to gain authorisation to use the protected products. That authorisation will reside on the computer somewhere and is what will be checked - or something like that.
Daz should really be implementing this safety system right now as a priority. Really they should have put it in place before releasing 4.9 and Connect. As things stand, if the company were to suddenly fold (unlikely, I know) then people would lose some content they've paid for. Thats unacceptable business practice. It basically means that, currently, you are only renting Connect-only content from Daz for as long as the company is afloat. If it can be taken away from you at any time, then you don't really own it.
Havos is right - in the event of the company going under, this system will be the last thing on everyone's mind. It just wouldn't happen. They need to address this now while the weather is fair.
Well the other thing is that DAZ could be acquired or have a private equity group take it over. In my professional career, I've worked with other companies that have gone through an acquisition, and surprise surprise things not in a contract suddenly change when there's a new boss in charge. Good thing there's not a ton of acquisitions in the 3d space lately...
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You're hurting my braiiiiin~ You merged a post from this thread into this thread because it was merged as a repeated post of a merged post from this thread that was merged into this thread into -head asplodes-
I really don't buy the whole "we need to add encryption or we'll have to put up prices" thing. Piracy sucks, but there is no possible way you can quantify how many sales you have lost from a pirated item. You can see how many people downloaded it, but that doesn't mean they would be potential customers. Even if they were - and I'm just guessing here - but people who download pirate content aren't going to be big on encryption either. They'll just wait for someone to crack it and carry on, or if not, move on to something else. Anyone who is super into this hobby is already buying a ton of content (and many of the "whales" as you marketing people like to call them, are getting really upset and leaving.)
Heh, no, there was a comment posted here and then the same comment was used to spin off to a new thread. I posted there before merging so that participants that recieve notification would get one on the merge. This thread is hard enough to follow with the sheer number of responses. If people begin to do other threads on topics already being covered here, it duplicates info and monitoring for purposes of Daz responding and the mods moderating becomes very difficult.
xD I get why merging stuff is important, it was just that reading the description of it and trying to sort it out was making me dizzy @.@
This is the thing I really don't understand. Do Daz really believe that anyone currently pirating their content is suddenly going to say "Oh no! This new stuff is encrypted - I'd better start buying it from now on instead of getting it for free like this". Those people are not going to suddenly get onboard the DRM-train. They most likely detest that kind of thing more than we do. As Ix says they'll just wait for someone to find a way around it and then carry on as usual.
I don't agree with piracy at all - but I also don't believe that this is even going to put a dent in it.
I mean, you guys realise that every version of Windows released so far has been hacked to death right? Is Daz hoping that their expertise in encryption is better than Microsoft's?