3D printer experience?

Dear experts, I just noticed that you can buy a 3D printing licence for some items, e.g.

Nathan 9 HD | Daz 3D

dForce Moonveil Outfit for Genesis 9 | Daz 3D

I searched the Forum but there was no mention of how to actually do such a print. Don't you need an STL file? 

Excellent printers like the Prusa One can handle four color prints, so there might be some fun to be had. Make your own Barbie and Ken combo?

Thanks in advance for your input.

Chris

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  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 41,751

    you only need that license to sell them

    you are allowed to make your own 3D print

    Blender will export an STL file and you probably need to make it watertight there anyway

    (I don't know how as I use Carrara and Zbrush and I bricked my DRM locked DaVinciXYZ Filament printer years ago because it wouldn'd recognise its own propiatry cartridges so gave up pretty early)

  • omvendtomvendt Posts: 223

    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    you only need that license to sell them

    you are allowed to make your own 3D print

    Blender will export an STL file and you probably need to make it watertight there anyway

    (I don't know how as I use Carrara and Zbrush and I bricked my DRM locked DaVinciXYZ Filament printer years ago because it wouldn'd recognise its own propiatry cartridges so gave up pretty early)

    Thanks! I have a new printer arriving next week, so maybe I can try it out. Not too keen on having to learn Blender, though. 

    (O:

  • There used to be a plug-in offered that converted Daz to the proper file, which is STL. 

    My husband does 3d printing so I can see what he has to say and get back to you

  • Matt_CastleMatt_Castle Posts: 3,305

    To be clear, it is not necessary that the file is STL format; this is a common standard for distribution of 3D print files, but a lot of the software will also handle other formats such as OBJ, as long as the mesh is watertight and otherwise suitable.

    In the end, these aren't even the files that are used by the printers themselves anyway; the software has to convert them to instructions for the individual printer - be that G-code that provide nozzle head pathing (for an FDM type printer) or individual exposure layers (for an LCD resin printer).

  • Depending on the printer slicing software, it does not necessarily require the model to be closed on each slice. One of the versions of ChiTuBox for my SLA printer just required each slice to be a closed profile and didn't need the layer below or above to be closed, meaning that low hanging clothing could work and get solidified (not necessary to have a manifold on all layers).

    Regards,

    Richard

  • omvendtomvendt Posts: 223

    miladyderyni_173d399f47 said:

    There used to be a plug-in offered that converted Daz to the proper file, which is STL. 

    My husband does 3d printing so I can see what he has to say and get back to you

    Now I have assembled my new Prusa, so, if your husband had any comments, I would love to hear them
    :0)

  • omvendtomvendt Posts: 223

    richardandtracy said:

    Depending on the printer slicing software, it does not necessarily require the model to be closed on each slice. One of the versions of ChiTuBox for my SLA printer just required each slice to be a closed profile and didn't need the layer below or above to be closed, meaning that low hanging clothing could work and get solidified (not necessary to have a manifold on all layers).

    Regards,

    Richard

    Thanks! Do you have any pictures of a successful print?

  • I am afraid I don't. I rapidly became alergic to the resin and could not touch the solidified resin even after full post cure & washing without my skin stinging for 24 hrs after a brief touch and 48 hours for a 30 second touch. For safety I got rid of all my prints. I stupidly didn't photograph them before doing so. I thought I had pictures of my first models of Jim Burton's Glamorous Vicky 3 I printed first, but I can't find them. I admit the clothing was only a Bikini, but it did solidify on most layers. Maybe not on this computer. 

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 41,751

    richardandtracy said:

    I am afraid I don't. I rapidly became alergic to the resin and could not touch the solidified resin even after full post cure & washing without my skin stinging for 24 hrs after a brief touch and 48 hours for a 30 second touch. For safety I got rid of all my prints. I stupidly didn't photograph them before doing so. I thought I had pictures of my first models of Jim Burton's Glamorous Vicky 3 I printed first, but I can't find them. I admit the clothing was only a Bikini, but it did solidify on most layers. Maybe not on this computer. 

    well that's interesting

    a resin printer was something I considered buying one day

    I don't think I am allergic to resin but I definitely get contact eczema reactions to many things 

    it could be the specific used resin even

    I definitely get painful raised welts from many elastics and tags and labels on clothing 

    they seem to be made of something that triggers my eczema yet polyester and stretch fabric is fine

    I suspect latex as rubber gloves definitely trigger it but that's not in tags and labels

  • davesodaveso Posts: 8,356

    I had a resin printer setup. Its toxic stuff. You need to be careful handling it. I had a respirator, gloves, goggles, etc. The fumes are bad news for your body. Its a messy , sloppy, pita operation. Got rid of all of it. The results are great, however. There are a lot of people allergic to the stuff, including my son. 

  • In the Art Studio section of the forums there is a thread which you can scroll to from the top of the topic list entitled '3d Printing, Best Practices'.

    The thread ended with what I wrote there.  I'm about to log off but hope it may be of use.

  • The current resins are supposed to be less allergenic, so maybe I could consider trying again. Regards, Richard.
  • davesodaveso Posts: 8,356

    richardandtracy said:

    The current resins are supposed to be less allergenic, so maybe I could consider trying again. Regards, Richard.

    that would be great. I got rid of all my resin stuff though. FDM printers, the new ones, are getting a lot better at resolution.  Its amazing how smooth with a lot better detail, even using 4mm nozzle and .2 mm layer height. And then 4 colors or more,  a lot faster too. The new printers are coming out pretty foften as well, with many improvements. There is a decent Creality, the SparkX i8 that is around $400, 4 colors with almost no waste right around the corner. Snapmaker U1 is double that in price, but really nice overall.  The difference in  operation is like night and day to when I first started printing with an Ender 3. All I did was tweak things and pray something would print. Then I bought a Prusa MK3S+ which printed better and worked for quite a long time, but all of a sudden something changed and I can't get it to print. The object always gets loose on the plate or strings all over. The newer ones seem a lot more forgiving with much better self calibration. 

     

  • omvendtomvendt Posts: 223

    "4 colors with almost no waste right around the corner.". You can buy 4 color (and more) right now from PRUSA.

     

  • davesodaveso Posts: 8,356
    edited September 26

    omvendt said:

    "4 colors with almost no waste right around the corner.". You can buy 4 color (and more) right now from PRUSA.

     

    @omvendt    Yeah Prusa, and there are others, like Snapmaker U1. Prusa is very expensive. You forgot this important part of my post --There is a decent Creality, the SparkX i8 that is around $400, , 4 colors with almost no waste right around the corner

     

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  • wsterdanwsterdan Posts: 3,639

    richardandtracy said:

    The current resins are supposed to be less allergenic, so maybe I could consider trying again. Regards, Richard.

    My brief venture into resin printing used an Anycubic Photon Mono Se (2 charcoal filters built in), a small air purifier sitting beside the printer and using only their special low-odour resins. I was printing in my basement lab with an open screen door at the top of the stairs (15 feet away) and my wife started having trouble breathing upstairs after the third print, so that got shut down pretty quickly.

    As far as FDM printing, I picked up an Anycubic Kobra S1 with an extra filament holder (total of 8 colours) and absolutely love it. Fair amount of waste with multi-colour, intricate prints and very, very slow, but worth it. I use mostly matte-finish PLA which usually comes out pretty smooth with the right settings. 

  • wsterdanwsterdan Posts: 3,639

    daveso said:

    omvendt said:

    "4 colors with almost no waste right around the corner.". You can buy 4 color (and more) right now from PRUSA.

     

    @omvendt    Yeah Prusa, and there are others, like Snapmaker U1. Prusa is very expensive. You forgot this important part of my post --There is a decent Creality, the SparkX i8 that is around $400, , 4 colors with almost no waste right around the corner

     

    The "almost no waste" sound interesting, I'll have to look into that. 

  • richardandtracyrichardandtracy Posts: 8,219

    I have finally found a photo of the print I knew I had somewhere on the DAZ site:

    It's a print of Jim Burton's Glamorous Vicki (a Victoria 3 character) wearing the Calendar Girl set and the now unavailable Las Vegas hair from Jim Burton. There is a bit of filler in the base, but it's otherwise untouched except removing the supports.

    Regards,

    Richard

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