Is this Victoria?

XyetztXyetzt Posts: 27,538

I found this YouTube video with this goth girl?  She reminds me of a Victoria or Genesis figure.  But not sure which one.  The hair seems to be rendered in DS.

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  • 3DIO3DIO Posts: 530

    She looks typical AI to me, and I feel like I've seen that same face a million times now.
    But fear not, cause the real life Barbie Girl looks more like a real life Goth Girl anyway!

    The arm tattoo in the video doesn't look very "Barbie" IMHO:

     

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  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 41,368

    without you linking the actual video, one cannot really tell but I strongly suspect it's AI as watched many similar ones that are

  • XyetztXyetzt Posts: 27,538

    I think this is it.

  • crosswindcrosswind Posts: 10,094
    edited July 14

    Definitely an AI generated image + post work... but it does remind me of some V4 / G2F chars from Jessaii, if you review their stores: 

    https://www.daz3d.com/jessaii
    https://www.renderosity.com/marketplace/vendors/Jessaii

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  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 41,368
    edited July 14

    ah I thought it would be animated because it reminded me of the style of Noturnal Records AI music videos 

    https://youtube.com/@nocturnalrecords-1?si=KiuSmfxKl6_V025R

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  • 3DIO3DIO Posts: 530
    edited July 15

    I must admit, I still don't understand how something like that AI "Barbie Girl" track can escape the fact that the AI must have used (in this case Aqua's) intellectual property in order to render the audio with the same words and melody.  If not, then how the Hell would it even know how the track goes?

    If I were to program my own arrangement of Barbie Girl into my DAW, and publish it, then that would be an infringement of Aqua's intellectual property, unless I'd been licensed to do that.  In musical terms, the AI track posted here would be considered a different 'arrangement' of Aqua's Barbie Girl.

    So I fail to see how (just because it's a different arrangement), it somehow escapes the blatantly obvious fact that the title of the track, the lyrics of the track, and the melody of the track all belong to Aqua.  Crazy (and legally dangerous) stuff IMHO, fun as it must be to play around with!

    Not trying to be a gate-crashing a-hole by the way, I'm just being a realist, because I doubt the appalling audio quality that AI systems tend to render out, would be enough to save a person from legal issues if an intellectual property holder took issue.  Now obviously, I very much doubt that Aqua would take issue (in fact I doubt most artists would take any issue to hearing AI renditions of their work), but you have to wonder where this is all going, and the potential consequences of it all.

     

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  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 41,368

    the band I linked uses AI to enhance their own original music. they play their instruments and sing but run it through Suno to flesh it out. They use AI video with their clips as well as footage of themselves 

  • 3DIO3DIO Posts: 530
    edited July 16

    Not into the audio aspect of AI at all to be honest, Wendy.  I've heard of Suno a lot, but never looked into it.

    That said, I do plan to use AI on some audio projects.  I had this really weird idea to create a bunch of fictional creatures, where the anatomy of each creature is perfectly formed to perform a specific orchestral instrument.  For example brass-playing creatures would have large lungs and a more bespoke-shaped mouth.  String-playing creatures would have long, skinny limbs with a hard bone-like ridge along their arms that act as a bow.  Weird stuff like that.

    It'll be fun to sync video footage of these creatures to my own compositions, and see them perform them in a theatre  :-D

    No way AI is getting anywhere near my audio or compositions, though, not even in the slightest.  It's purely the visual aspect I would use AI for, trained on my own design creatures and theatre etc.

     

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  • backgroundbackground Posts: 924
    edited July 16

    3DIO said:

    Not into the audio aspect of AI at all to be honest, Wendy.  I've heard of Suno a lot, but never looked into it.

    That said, I do plan to use AI on some audio projects.  I had this really weird idea to create a bunch of fictional creatures, where the anatomy of each creature is perfectly formed to perform a specific orchestral instrument.  For example brass-playing creatures would have large lungs and a more bespoke-shaped mouth.  String-playing creatures would have long, skinny limbs with a hard bone-like ridge along their arms that act as a bow.  Weird stuff like that.

    It'll be fun to sync video footage of these creatures to my own compositions, and see them perform them in a theatre  :-D

    No way AI is getting anywhere near my audio or compositions, though, not even in the slightest.  It's purely the visual aspect I would use AI for, trained on my own design creatures and theatre etc.

     

    Reminds me a bit of 'Permutation City'. Without going over the whole story it's an almost infinite virtual world. The 'people' on the planet are derived from the brain scans of once living humans. Since the whole world is virtual reality they can create bodies for themselves an any form the like, and I think some of them choose to be musical instuments.  Being effectively an AI environment ( including AI DNA ) it all inevitably goes wrong.

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  • 3DIO3DIO Posts: 530
    edited July 17

    Seems it exists purely in written form (for now at least), but sounds as if it could make for a great movie!

     

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  • GordigGordig Posts: 10,778

    3DIO said:

    If I were to program my own arrangement of Barbie Girl into my DAW, and publish it, then that would be an infringement of Aqua's intellectual property, unless I'd been licensed to do that.  In musical terms, the AI track posted here would be considered a different 'arrangement' of Aqua's Barbie Girl.

    So I fail to see how (just because it's a different arrangement), it somehow escapes the blatantly obvious fact that the title of the track, the lyrics of the track, and the melody of the track all belong to Aqua.  Crazy (and legally dangerous) stuff IMHO, fun as it must be to play around with!

    You say that as if people haven't been recording their own versions of other people's music since the very beginning of recorded music. Weird Al's output is mostly other people's with the lyrics changed, and the only time that's been an issue was when he mistakenly believed that Coolio had given him permission to release Amish Paradise, but Coolio admitted that there was nothing he could do to stop him.

  • Subtropic PixelSubtropic Pixel Posts: 2,403

    Gordig said:

    3DIO said:

    If I were to program my own arrangement of Barbie Girl into my DAW, and publish it, then that would be an infringement of Aqua's intellectual property, unless I'd been licensed to do that.  In musical terms, the AI track posted here would be considered a different 'arrangement' of Aqua's Barbie Girl.

    So I fail to see how (just because it's a different arrangement), it somehow escapes the blatantly obvious fact that the title of the track, the lyrics of the track, and the melody of the track all belong to Aqua.  Crazy (and legally dangerous) stuff IMHO, fun as it must be to play around with!

    You say that as if people haven't been recording their own versions of other people's music since the very beginning of recorded music. Weird Al's output is mostly other people's with the lyrics changed, and the only time that's been an issue was when he mistakenly believed that Coolio had given him permission to release Amish Paradise, but Coolio admitted that there was nothing he could do to stop him.

    No doubt.  And people are so sensitive about it that they can get up in arms even if an artist or band just uses the same or similar chord progression that was used by a prior band.  There's the whole "Lady A" controversy from some years ago.  What do you do if you write a guitar passage that was already done by The Beatles on some obscure track I've never heard?  I like The Beatles, but I've not heard EVERY song they've ever done.  The same goes for Queen, The Carpenters, The Who, The Rolling Stones, and many many others.

    I've often thought that I probably need an AI agent just to tell me if the song I just wrote has similarities to any other song that was ever in the top 1000 hits on any chart, and if so, which song and what part of my song is too similar?  And the same goes for lyrics.  Song writing in the current era is about so much more than just slapping a few rhymes together and hitting "record".

    At least Weird Al asked for permission.  His treatment of other artists' songs was more of a celebration of their work, rather than a mocking or an insult.

  • 3DIO3DIO Posts: 530
    edited July 22

    Yeah ... well anyway ... what I'd like to know is who opened the fizzy drink at the very end of the AI version?  :-D

     

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