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Daz 3D Forums > 3rd Party Software > Blender Discussion

New Daz to Blender Pipeline

Singular3DSingular3D Posts: 637
March 17 in Blender Discussion

I saw this advertised on the front page, but there seems to be no additional information available.

Any information what this is about?

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  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 40,613
    March 17

    https://www.daz3d.com/fast-animation-studio-tools--a-daz-to-blender-pipeline

    depending on your browser. it and todays other new, may not appear yet

    (it doesn't on iOS Safari for me)

  • LeanaLeana Posts: 12,991
    March 17

    It's a new version of a tool that was released a few months ago, with a new name. So you might already have it

  • PadonePadone Posts: 4,083
    March 17 edited March 17

    FAST aka TV Studio is based on Diffeomorphic, as the library is free to use to anyone, plus adds some facilities and extra tools. The Diffeomorphic team has nothing to do with it though, and will not provide support for FAST. That means it is the FAST team responsibility to keep it up to date and compatible with the new Diffeomorphic releases and features.

    p.s. Personally I don't see any extra feature in FAST that I need to work in blender, and Diffeomorphic is already overcrowded with features. But that's just me, someone else may find some extra features in FAST useful. So my advice is to first try Diffeomorphic, then see if you need FAST.

    Post edited by Padone on March 17
  • brainmuffinbrainmuffin Posts: 1,282
    March 17

    Leana said:

    It's a new version of a tool that was released a few months ago, with a new name. So you might already have it

    Yeah, that's bummer. Not really "new".

  • lilweeplilweep Posts: 2,797
    March 17 edited March 17

    They deleted their promo videos?

    With all that text in the ad copy and all those promos/slides, it really needs an accompanying video that immediately conveys why the bridge is useful. 

    Every video about the product on youtube seems years long and rambly. 

    Curious, have people not heard of an elevator pitch?

    Post edited by lilweep on March 17
  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 109,537
    March 17

    lilweep said:

    They deleted their promo videos?

    With all that text in the ad copy and all those promos/slides, it really needs an accompanying video that immediately conveys why the bridge is useful. 

    Every video about the product on youtube seems years long and rambly. 

    Curious, have people not heard of an elevator pitch?

    The missing videos have been reported.

  • Singular3DSingular3D Posts: 637
    March 17
    Padone said:

    FAST aka TV Studio is based on Diffeomorphic, as the library is free to use to anyone, plus adds some facilities and extra tools. The Diffeomorphic team has nothing to do with it though, and will not provide support for FAST. That means it is the FAST team responsibility to keep it up to date and compatible with the new Diffeomorphic releases and features.

    p.s. Personally I don't see any extra feature in FAST that I need to work in blender, and Diffeomorphic is already overcrowded with features. But that's just me, someone else may find some extra features in FAST useful. So my advice is to first try Diffeomorphic, then see if you need FAST.

    Thanks for the information!
  • FreddyFreddy Posts: 33
    March 17

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  • mikeha_camikeha_ca Posts: 40
    March 18

    seems like one of the new features is to enable AI image to image and image to video generation from Daz Renders. As far as I know, this is against the Daz Licensing Agreement which states: 

    "Notwithstanding anything to the contrary contained herein, the Content License expressly excludes the use, incorporation, or input of any Content, in whole or in part, in connection with i) any AI engine, program, or system (including, without limitation, Image.ai, Nightcafe, Artbreeder, chatGPT, Shutterstock, DALL-E 2, Deep Dream Generator, Hotpot ai, DeepAI) with capabilities or instructions to auto-generate materials that are derivative, imitative, or otherwise plagiaristic of the Content; and ii) any activity contrary to the intended use of the Content License, or otherwise to circumvent the terms, restrictions, or safeguards applicable to this Content License. For the purposes of this EULA, "AI" means any method of artificial intelligence such as deep learning, neural networks, or any other similar technologies intended to consume and analyze content for the intent of auto-generating new content."

    from the description, I believe this is the violation:

    "We also added a full video generator built directly into the add-on that uses your personal Runway API Key. That means you only pay Runway, there are no overages from us, and you get a top-tier image and video generation system built directly into Blender. We’ve got Text-to-Video, Image-to-Video, Video-to-Video, and even Image-to-Image, which uses Google’s Nano Banana image editor and supports up to 3 reference images, plus 4K upscaling."

    Does Daz not review new products for license agreement compliance? It's clearly not allowed to feed Daz renders into AI generation engines.

  • RaketeRakete Posts: 97
    March 18 edited March 18

    mikeha_ca said:

    seems like one of the new features is to enable AI image to image and image to video generation from Daz Renders. As far as I know, this is against the Daz Licensing Agreement which states: 

    "Notwithstanding anything to the contrary contained herein, the Content License expressly excludes the use, incorporation, or input of any Content, in whole or in part, in connection with i) any AI engine, program, or system (including, without limitation, Image.ai, Nightcafe, Artbreeder, chatGPT, Shutterstock, DALL-E 2, Deep Dream Generator, Hotpot ai, DeepAI) with capabilities or instructions to auto-generate materials that are derivative, imitative, or otherwise plagiaristic of the Content; and ii) any activity contrary to the intended use of the Content License, or otherwise to circumvent the terms, restrictions, or safeguards applicable to this Content License. For the purposes of this EULA, "AI" means any method of artificial intelligence such as deep learning, neural networks, or any other similar technologies intended to consume and analyze content for the intent of auto-generating new content."

    from the description, I believe this is the violation:

    "We also added a full video generator built directly into the add-on that uses your personal Runway API Key. That means you only pay Runway, there are no overages from us, and you get a top-tier image and video generation system built directly into Blender. We’ve got Text-to-Video, Image-to-Video, Video-to-Video, and even Image-to-Image, which uses Google’s Nano Banana image editor and supports up to 3 reference images, plus 4K upscaling."

    Does Daz not review new products for license agreement compliance? It's clearly not allowed to feed Daz renders into AI generation engines.

    "Content" probably means the content, so the 3D models, textures, etc. not your own renders. If they meant renders it would basicly mean they try to claim ownership over anything that is being created with Daz assets.

    Post edited by Rakete on March 18
  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 109,537
    March 18

    Rakete said:

    mikeha_ca said:

    seems like one of the new features is to enable AI image to image and image to video generation from Daz Renders. As far as I know, this is against the Daz Licensing Agreement which states: 

    "Notwithstanding anything to the contrary contained herein, the Content License expressly excludes the use, incorporation, or input of any Content, in whole or in part, in connection with i) any AI engine, program, or system (including, without limitation, Image.ai, Nightcafe, Artbreeder, chatGPT, Shutterstock, DALL-E 2, Deep Dream Generator, Hotpot ai, DeepAI) with capabilities or instructions to auto-generate materials that are derivative, imitative, or otherwise plagiaristic of the Content; and ii) any activity contrary to the intended use of the Content License, or otherwise to circumvent the terms, restrictions, or safeguards applicable to this Content License. For the purposes of this EULA, "AI" means any method of artificial intelligence such as deep learning, neural networks, or any other similar technologies intended to consume and analyze content for the intent of auto-generating new content."

    from the description, I believe this is the violation:

    "We also added a full video generator built directly into the add-on that uses your personal Runway API Key. That means you only pay Runway, there are no overages from us, and you get a top-tier image and video generation system built directly into Blender. We’ve got Text-to-Video, Image-to-Video, Video-to-Video, and even Image-to-Image, which uses Google’s Nano Banana image editor and supports up to 3 reference images, plus 4K upscaling."

    Does Daz not review new products for license agreement compliance? It's clearly not allowed to feed Daz renders into AI generation engines.

    "Content" probably means the content, so the 3D models, textures, etc. not your own renders. If they meant renders it would basicly mean they try to claim ownership over anything that is being created with Daz assets.

    That would be my reading, too.

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