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Look at your wishlist with the sort option "Price - Low to High"
The reason I'm paying for this add-on is to catch things at their lowest, that's why I have the notification emails set up. Sort by "low to high" only tells me what has a low price in pure numbers, but it doesn't tell me how that compares to what it's been selling at for the last year and it also doesn't mean I'll catch some $200 bundle that's at a 90% discount (because it will still be further down the list past everything that is less than $20). I don't want to have to manually check the items in my wishlist every sale. And more importantly than all of those things; I can sort by low to high without the Daz Deals add-on. The reason I'm writing this in the Daz Deals thread is because the $0.60 error is causing an issue with a key feature of Daz Deals.
Those items were $0.60, even if only for a couple of hours. If someone had notifications set up, they could take advantage of that short sale. That's the reason for the notifications so you can catch even these shorter sales. It would make no sense to remove certain actual sales from the history just because you missed them.
But they weren't actual sales. Somebody at Daz messed up a 60% sale and put a number in the wrong box. My notifications for the next year shouldn't be comparing against a price that they were never meant to be sold at. If tomorrow some Daz employee made a mistake and everything in the store was accidentally free for an hour, does it make sense to not send out alerts/notifications for "best price in a year" for everything in the store the next 12 months (since they won't sell for $0.00 again, because Daz never intended to sell them for that)?
This wasn't a "shorter sale", it was a mistake. Comparing against a number that was never intended just means that people won't get notified of actual good deals. If the lowest something has ACTUALLY sold for is $4, and then it goes on sale for $2 now, peope won't be notified because it's not as low as $0.60. This decision to not exclude the $0.60 error will prevent people from taking advantage of actual sales.
Your notifications will still trigger if the price goes below a certain price you set up. (Or above a certain discount percentage.) This does not prevent future notifications.
But I won't be notified about anything going to its lowest price (in terms of actual intended prices). Best price in 6 months is useless until October, best price in 1 year is useless until next May. Saying that this "does not prevent future notifications" is categorically wrong when it 100% stops best price notifications for these items. I can set a discount percentage, but if I want to know if that's a good price compared to previous sales/discounts, I will have to manually check every single thing above that percentage (looking back over the price history chart, because "recent best" will incorrectly say $0.60).
I understand if the code/backend stuff can't (or is difficult to) find a way to exclude this specific mistake that Daz made. But if you're genuinely arguing that it is right to include incorrect pricing that interferes with how the add-on functions (and the accuracy of information it provides), then that's a much bigger concern for me. Yes it was technically on sale at that price, but neither Daz nor the PAs will ever sell it for that low again because it was never meant to be sold at that price to begin with.
I already gave my example of a mistake where everything in the store accidentally goes on sale for free, but here's a different analogy. I use a fitness tracker that shows the route I ran and the distance covered. If the GPS glitched out and suddenly said I was on the other side of the planet for part of my run, it would be ridicuous for me to claim that I ran 16000 miles during my half hour morning jog. If people asked what's the longest distance I've ever ran, I would obviously not say 16000 miles. I would want the fitness tracker to allow me to exclude that run from its history (so that my total miles ran or average miles per hour aren't completely wrong).
Once again: the items were at the $0.60 pricepoint. So the recent best showing them at that price is correct.
I understand that having missed such a huge sale is annoying. What you can do is wishlist the items you'd like to buy, set up a notification, and you'll be notified the next time they go on a sale with a high discount.
I want to clear up a misconception you seem to have; I didn't miss the sale. I filled up a cart with $2500 worth of stuff that would've cost me $30. I ultimately chose not to buy it because I knew it was an error and I wasn't 100% certain the PAs would be properly compensated. You keep relying on the technicality that they were sold at that price but that doesn't negate the fact that they were never meant to be sold at that price. No future pricing decisions or discounts will be made thinking that these items can ever realistically be sold at $0.60. If Daz ran a super flash sale where a bunch of stuff was on sale for $0.20 for only 2 minutes, I wouldn't ask you to remove that one. I wouldn't care that I missed it. Daz and the PAs chose to sell them at $0.20 and they wanted people to pay that much for those items. I'd have no issue with that being in the price chart/history.
Let's imagine my fitness tracker analogy again, since you really want to dig your heels in on the 'you could actually buy them at that price for that 1 hour while they fixed the error' point. Instead of it being a GPS error, I fell into a wormhole (or unexpectedly magically teleported) to the other side of the world. I was actually physically on the other side of the planet (like the items were actually sold at that price), and then I fall back into the wormhole and showed up back on my morning jog. The GPS picking me up 8000 miles away is accurate and not a glitch, but it's not a legitimate protrayal of my morning jog. It's still silly to include it in measurements of how far or how fast I can run. I'm not going to claim I can run to China and back in less than 30 mins because of a one in a trillion near-impossible random event that will never happen.
You said yourself that the add-on and its notifications are there to help people "take advantage" of sales. You are actively choosing to nullify the entire "best price" function of your add-on and stop people using it to "take advantage" of things dropping to the best discount they've ever been. And if you're saying that this function can be done just as well by the discount percentage alert/notification.....then why do you have both? Clearly the best price feature serves a purpose and you are hobbling it until next May (at which point this $0.60 error will no longer be in the past year). I'm interested in using your tool to actually find good prices and discounts, and I don't see the purpose of making it worse at doing that just so that the price chart keeps a historical record of that time when things temporarily dropped to $0.60 unintentionally.
I think I would describe the history including short lived pricing errors as "technically accurate, but annoying and unhelpful".
Much as danmast did, I saw the error and deliberately chose *not* to exploit it because it was clearly not the intended sale and I was not convinced that the PAs would be properly compensated. (Indeed, that's on record, because I actually reported it.) While I'm told that Daz has generally set things right in the past for PAs when a sale price has been in error, the scale of the error here was considerable, so I didn't know how it would be handled.
I can understand if the reality is that it's impractical or impossible to remove it from the price history, but I think danmast has a solid point about how a price that was clearly in error, required grappling with your conscience, was resolved inside an hour and would only be repeated again by a similar error is really not useful information to most users regarding their future purchasing decisions.
(And I will also note that if it *did* happen again, having removed it from the price history would not prohibit notifying users that a low price was available).
Noticed this morning that my Product Library is completely vanilla. No thumbnails or anything from the extension. I'm not Pro or anything. I checked the settings and there doesn't seem to be anything shut off that would affect it. I also deleted all cookies and restarted the browser. No difference. It just started (not) doing this this morning.
What part of "it was not an actual sale" is the issue? It was a mistake. Most of the store was $0.60 for about an hour by mistake.
Where is this "best price" hosted? The database records for the sale on that date at that price should just be purged.
It is 100% relevant. This is a tool to help customers best decide whether something is at a good price to buy. Comparing it to a price that was not intended and thus doesn't reflect a price the item would ever actually sell for, is the exact opposite of being helpful or informative. The fact that you need to mention the data "aging out of the algorithm" shows that it's bad that it is affecting it. And the fact that in a month it will age out of "best in 1 month" isn't overly helpful for all the people who want to take a longer view of what things have historically sold for. Are you implying that for the forseeable future we should settle for "what's the best price it's sold for since the $0.60 error?". Because if we choose a length of time that goes back further then we are basically choosing for that notification to never actually be triggered until the data ages out.
"Data driven" doesn't mean blindly include everything. If a scientist runs an experiment and the equipment malfunctions, they don't put out a report saying "when I weighed the apple it was 7 million kilograms. that's what the machine said so we have to include that data and treat it as true and valid". At the end of the day, this is first and foremost a useful tool to inform buying, not a logbook or historical record to help us reminisce and remember past events.
But should the plug-in be trying to provide concrete historical record, or useful purchasing information?
That price will only be repeated again in the near future by a similar error, but those data points will be blocking notifications about recent price lows for months and will mislead about what Daz actually intends as a low price for that product (one that you might reasonably see in coming months).
(And, I stress, removing them from the database would *not* preclude users being notified of a similar error should it happen again, as that would - presumably - still be a price low.)
For a serious question (and this goes for everyone): What situations are there where keeping the mistaken price in the history will be useful information for your purchasing? Are you legitimately going to find yourself in a position where you go "Damn, my wishlisted product is on a 99% off offer and is only 65 cents, but no, I'm not going to purchase because the Deals plug-in has reminded me that once they made a mistake where they set the price to 60 cents, and they could theoretically make that mistake again one day." What actual purchasing circumstances are you envisioning (within the next year, I would note) where keeping a price that would only be repeated by a similar sales error is helpful information... and how are those circumstances not just generally covered by the knowledge that Daz set prices wrong occasionally?
Again, I get it if the argument is that it's going to be a complete pain to remove the price from the database. I understand that coding something like this can seem like it's really simple but you poke one thing and the entire house of cards comes tumbling down. But if that is not part of the issue, then I think there are far more situations where keeping in errors (even if you could have theoretically purchased at that price for a few minutes) is unhelpful to users than those where it is helpful.
I come from a history of tabletop roleplaying games, and I am a strong advocate over sticking with the intention of the rules (in a game, that would be "to have fun", but in this case their function is "to help inform purchasing") over sticking hard and fast to a deontological approach that gets in the way of what you actually want.
Never had any kind of response from anybody so I'll post this one more time:
My Product Library has reverted to completely vanilla non-extension operation and no longer displays thumbnails or shows any advanced filtering features. Started doing this 3 days ago out of the blue. I am not a Pro subscriber. I am using Chrome. I don't think any options I have selected or de-selected would affect this feature, but a screenshot of my settings is included.
I deleted all cookies, signed out of Daz3d.com and closed the browser. Re-opened the browser and signed back in. Daz-Deals has all the permissions I can give it. No adblocker is running on daz3d.com. The other features of the extension appear to be working okay.
Would appreciate any assistance with this. It isn't absolutely essential for this to be working but I really prefer the thumbnails. Thanks!
Do other features from the addon work? I'll ping @Overdrawn in on this one.
Far as I can tell everything else is working. It's got me quite puzzled ¯\(°_o)/¯
Just a thought (and a silly question)...
Your first screenshot, the Product Library, shows it on it's initial page, at which point the panel on the right is blank, it is only populated when you select an item from the product list on the left at which point it shows the selected item's detail. Is this not happening for you?
Your second screenshot of the Daz-Deals settings only affect the Daz Sales Listings, the Daz Product Page and your Account's Orders Page. They don't affect the Product Library page which only lists the items you own and the selected item's summary details and links for downloading the product.
My initial Product Library Page
Library page with a product selected
I was awake, Timezone benefits, and got a couple of them; so it was a valid Sale Price; annoying as it may be it is not an opinion, it is genuine sales data
My Product Library looks and behaves exactly as your screenshots. Previously there was a slightly tweaked search/filter system and thumbnails on the right that behaved exactly as the text list if you clicked them. As far as I can tell there are no settings in the Daz Deals that affect the Product Library view.
I can download and find things just fine.I just prefer the thumbs over the "plain" version for browsing.
To be honest, I have never noticed a 'tweaked search/filter', if I had I would have used it as a preferred UI — Oh Humm! I guess I won't miss what I never had ...
I'm not going to keep having this argument. If a bug/virus hit your local supermarket and suddenly everything you scanned at the self-checkout was free, would you call that "genuine sales data" that should be used to inform your future purchases? Do you think there is any future point in time where the store will actually choose to give away their items for free like that intentionally?
It's an error, and it is useless as a reference point for comparison of future sales. How useful is it to tell me that this $100 item went as low as $0.60 (as a result of a technical error) when I'm trying to decide whether I'm getting the best deal possible on this $100 item that's selling for $20? $20 may be the best actual price point that Daz have ever chosen to lower it to, and they may never drop it lower than that. Not buying it because it's not as low as $0.60 would be ridiculous
In a case like this, if a product had a lowest price of $0.60, I would go to its product page, look at the Daz-Deals price history, find the second lowest price, and use that as my data point.
But why add the extra effort to the process? It also ignores the fact that some people may not know about the error, and so they wouldn't know to ignore the $0.60 and look for the second lowest. They'd actually think that's a prcie that Daz and the PA are willing to sell it at.
And all this ignores the basic functionality of the app; the email notifications likely won't even alert you about an item that is at a good price (equal to or lower than its "second lowest price") and so you'll never even know to go check it in the first place.
I solve rather than seek problems. Hypothetics are futile; those that don't know are ignorant for a reason and not my issue. Email notifications alert at price changes.
Please drop the discussion of the pricing issue showing in Daz Deals' history.
I believe I've found a bug in the "Hide... I'm only interested in" code
If I set only Daz Studio 4.24, some products that list both Daz Studio 4.24 and Poser are hidden from me.
If I set Daz Studio and Poser, those missing products show up. It seems like there an AND where an OR should be or vice versa.
Attached in an example with products by Andrey Pestryakov:
So far I was not able to reproduce this issue. I'll try again in a while.
I'm using 4.2.0 non-pro if that helps.
I updated Chrome and it went away for me as well. So it went away with CHROME VERSION 138.0.7204.158
Thanks.
The "hypothetical" of a person buying Daz Deals and not knowing every single thing that's ever happened with it in the past? That's not an absurd hypothetical, that's a guarantee. Unless you are saying that there will be zero new users/customers paying for it in the next year? Or that every new user will go back and research everything about the add-on and its history?
Email notifications do happen "at price changes", but they can be set on conditions of being lower than a certain amount or being the "Best price in" X number of months. So you are purposefully ignoring the fact that a main feature of the add-on is to alert people to something falling to its lowest price.
As a final point, I have simply stopped paying for the add-on. I may come back and pay for it when we get to the middle of next year and these false historical figures are finally no longe rin the last 12 months, but honestly I have very little interest at this point when the creator has made it clear they have no interest in making their product actually represent the actual prices that things were meant ot be sold at (thus making it completely pointless to use). If we aren't comparing to actual prices that the PA/website intended to sell it at, then what's the point in comparing at all? Nothing on the website is ever going to drop lower than a faulty error price that was lower than anyone ever meant for the product to be listed at.
Anyway, I'm done arguing this. It's clear that people have no interest in getting an actually helpful usable add-on that informs them on the actual prices things might go on sale at. So I'm done making my point in this thread.